. and that
would span at a minimum, the English Doc pages (since other translations
are typically using a translated Master TOC). Not impossible (can be
done using a WikiBot and some patience/time), but something to consider
when the ideas are being presented.
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ic Wiki docs I work on do not have H1...
all start at H2.
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rs we have.
All of the various MultiUpload extensions I've looked at in the past
have restricted this functionality to only those users with Sysop (aka
Admin) permissions.
initially, I don't see a way to set the permissions of this extension...
might be a $wgSomething variable that can be se
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the Special Pages.
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probably put in a redirect from this Math page to the actual Math
documentation)
Thoughts?
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tained. That link may belong on the "Consultants" page (/but:/ more
> about that on the d...@web list).
OK, I dropped in the redirect. The original text is still in the
original page, just commented out so it's not visible.
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mory serves me correctly, the orginal author
of the site is a participant in the OOo Forum.
I've linked it for now... we can always remove it in the future if we
see the need to.
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omething that could probably be added to:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Dashboard/Project_Plan
as one of the team projects...
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ay the Wiki works). There is not yet a OOo based Wiki :-) It'd be the
best of both worlds.
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veloped.
It would be nice if the Application help was also simplified and easier
for the community to work on.
It's definitely something to think about.
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such.. pages not reviewed are also clearly marked. There are a few
issues with implementing this extension - but it's worth considering.
Wikipedia is starting to use it, and the MediaWiki Wiki uses it.
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e found a better
way to present the information? Is this a problem/solution that could
also be used in the English side, making both document sets better? The
Chinese translation was able to maintain the same document structure...
so I'm curious what ended up in different places in the G
ment and "keeping
track of it all" easier or better in the long run (eg the work done
recently on the MasterTOC is a prime example of making changes to
dramatically improve things over what they were).
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Jean Hollis Weber wrote:
> Clayton, with regards to the German and English user guides, they often
> are not "translations" page-by-page. Some of the German UGs began as
> translations from English (and the English Draw Guide began as a
> translation from German), but both th
s provided.
I've posted this on the User Forum - a few more eyes might see it there:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22436&start=0
(there's one reply already)
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e if they work/help though.
The Category one seems to be working as expected, but the WatchSubpage
one... I don't see any evidence of it. I have a feeling that it's not
working in MediaWiki 1.15.1. Can anyone else find a way to trigger the
Watch Subpages extension?
If it's not jus
Nino Novak wrote:
> Clayton, I'd propose to turn off captchas on edits.
>
> In my eyes, captchas on edits are contraproductive: They hamper "real"
> contributions whereas they don't prevent (human) spammers from putting
> links to external URL. They only p
>> Where exactly are you seeing the Captchas show up?
>
> On every new page creation - transclusion of {{CCBY}} seems to trigger
> them as it points to creativecommons.org. And I put it on every new
> page...
H... OK, I've changed an option so it should not check on addurl...
see if that m
>> Where exactly are you seeing the Captchas show up?
>
> I get it, when the text contains the bug-template, that is {{bug|12345}}
> for example, which generates the link to Issuezilla. And yes, that is
> annoying.
I've changed the option for captchas on external urls. This should stop
it asking
Nino Novak wrote:
> How do you insert references?
>
> In WP, footnotes are created automatically with "content"
> using Extension:Cite (see http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Cite)
>
> Dear Clayton, may I suggest that we install this extension, too? :-)
>
ontext... it's clearly
talking about Styles.
I'd say, go for it, implement the change.
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t. Thinks that could go here.. new translated
docs, new doc releases (like Gabriel's Conceptual Guide) etc.
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T. J. Frazier wrote:
> Clayton wrote:
>> Frank had a good suggestion - a What's New section to announce
>> changes/new stuff.
>>
>> I've added a simple What's New box to the Wiki
>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation
>>
For
the ODT sources you mention, Jean will have to chime in here since she's
been closer to that side of the documentation than I have been.
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ly changing the Copyright page.
It would be nice if someone with a working knowledge of the legal side
of open source licensing could step up and sort it all out... I don't
know anyone who can though (and who has a clear understanding of the
legal ramifications).
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I've contacted this user and asked that they join this mailing list so
that we can assist then, and undo the "damage" done to the English pages
without loosing their translations.
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T. J. Frazier wrote:
> Clayton wrote:
>> A new user popped up on the OOoWiki, and this person has been busily
>> translating the OOo3 User Guides into Chinese. See:
>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Claire
>>
>> The problem is, thi
T. J. Frazier wrote:
> T. J. Frazier wrote:
>> Clayton wrote:
> ...
>
>>>
>>> I've contacted this user and asked that they join this mailing list so
>>> that we can assist then, and undo the "damage" done to the English pages
>>&
Nino Novak wrote:
> Finally, I'm trying to finish work but still need a little help.
> Could you please be so kind and add a bot flag to user NninoBot.
Done. If you need anything else, just let me know.
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OOoCon2009 has started.
For those of you not able to attend the conference this year, you can
still take part remotely if you're interested... I will have Internet
access throughout the day at the conference (I hope), and will try to
monitor the Docs IRQ channel off and on throughout the day... th
thing special.
The doc team session is at the beginning of the 6 Nov morning session.
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being used.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
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> That is a good idea and an easy solution to the problem.
Yup, good solution... I like it :-)
As a first attempt at it, I fixed up the dates on this page:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Wiki_Books
using the suggested format. Looks OK to me.
> Clayton may correct me on
Nino Novak wrote:
> On Sunday 08 November 2009 13:40, Clayton wrote:
>
>> The doc team session is at the beginning of the 6 Nov morning session.
> ^
> Ok, after your successful deception attempt I finally found the ses
Nino Novak wrote:
> On Wednesday 11 November 2009 10:54, Clayton wrote:
>>>> 2009-08-11 (Aug 11)
> ...
>> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Wiki_Books
>
> Clayton, 3 = March, not April ;-)
Ha.. ooops :-) Fixed.
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sily split things up and move discussion if need be. The discussion
part is healthy and a good way to hash out the ideas and get something
in the end we can act upon.
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ompleted" page
So, everyone, please feel free to keep entering your thoughts on that
page... new ideas... thoughts on other ideas.. disagreements too.
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Nino Novak wrote:
> Ok, it's responding again.
>
> Nino
> PS Sorry for thread hijacking :-(
>
>
> On Thursday 12 November 2009 18:51, Nino Novak wrote:
>> you need not answer - just in case you don't know that the wiki is
>> not responding.
H Can't see anything obvious that was wrong. I'l
nerally how various language
>> groups are doing this (with some variations such as doing the
>> translations on sub-pages of their user pages etc.).
>>
> Thanks Clayton. I added the process description to the Wiki Editing
> Policy. As long as we have no other solution, it's at l
e (with a little
rewriting) http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Help:InterWiki and
then transcluded back into the Policy page.
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ve along move efficiently, we should look
into it. Installing an extension for testing is not hard... I just need
to know which one, and have someone available to test it (particularly
in the case of translations).
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Help pages, and also the fine
tuned Doc Proj specific guidelines without duplication.
The start point for the Wiki Help pages is here:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Help:Contents
This is the page you land on if you click Help on the left nav bar/box.
Good idea? Or other ideas?
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paragraphs in any page... same effect.
Translusions are used in quite a few places.. the User Guides for
example have transcluded text - as I discovered a while back :-)
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the php error log file say?
M I should have been clearer... the page loads but where the map is
supposed to be is just blank. All controls work etc, but you zoom in
etc on nothing. So, it's not a blank page caused by a fault in the php.
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f you enter a search term, you get no
graphics back - at least I don't when I try it on your test install -
which is the same results I got.
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search on anything... FR, Development, Documentation
etc.. I get a blank where the map should be. I see we're both on Linux
(I'm using openSUSE 11.2 with KDE4.3.3 and Firefox 3.5.5) so it's not
likely a Linux quirk yesterday I was testing on Solaris and getting
the same blank map
it works
fine (searching Wikipedia and returning maps).
This is the same behavior that I saw yesterday while I was testing with
Solaris/Firefox and if I remember correctly Flash 10 as well.
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started passing the WikiBot over some of these pages. So far just
the How to/Calc: pages, adding the Documentation Category to them. I'm
keeping a list of all pages edited, so I can send the WikiBot back over
them again to add other Categories as needed... I'm not sure what other
Categ
of pages in Cat:Doc whose page names begin with Doc/HowTos/Calc.
> They clearly belong in the sub-category of the same name. Unless I'm
> very mistaken, Clayton intends to use a bot to do that, and to do
> similar things.
>
> Once he has done that, the rest of us can help with
On 11/22/2009 08:24 PM, Nino Novak wrote:
> On Sunday 22 November 2009 18:30, Clayton wrote:
>
>> Part of the prob on the Wiki is that thousands of pages have no
>> Category at all.. :-(
>
> (For me, this is not a problem)
Finding something and just general navigating
redundant (looking at it from the outside).
This seems to be the source of the problem after you mentioned using
localized categories, and pointed at DE/Dokumentation, I went with the
idea... and added a DE page to that category.
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hat would be somewhat clearer to the
German readers than DE/Documentation for the translated docs. Then you
could make the DE/Dokumentation/Übersetzt Category a subCategory of
DE/Dokumentation to keep the structure intact.
I don't know if that would be better or not.. just an idea that pop
es need to be moved or renamed, someone with admin rights can do
it (Sophie, you have admin rights), or I can assign admin rights to the
OC project lead (if that makes things easier).
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the Math, Writer, Calc, Impress etc guides) Thoughts on that?
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hat was up, but
hadn't poked the logs etc. yet. We're not using DPL there... and
over-ambitious DPLs can kill performance. I don't see anything in that
Template that should cause perfomance hits...
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in the back of your mind
when we are thinking of changing Templates that have such a high usage.
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the page.. I'm guessing because that's also where the Category shows up,
and it seemed like a good idea at the time. :-)
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n/nl/How_Tos/Calc:_functie_BOOGCOS
where a localized title was used (and needed in my opinion).
I'm not sure what the right answer is here... to me.. some places need
it for administrative reasons, but elsewhere, it's not so important to
have the Page Name only in English... and then locali
for translations (the Wiki Bot could
probably do this once the Doc categories were cleaned up a bit more).
Other questions come to mind such as localizing the tool since there is
some good documentation available on the Wiki in languages other than
English... but it might be possible. I know the
ood out, so in this case, since there were so many to be deleted, I
ran the bot on it... if I hadn't, I'd still be there doing the deletes.
:-P There were a lot this time.
One saving grace is, if a page is deleted that shouldn't have been, any
admin can easily recover either by going t
er coding,
you cannot easily extract everything past the ISO Lang code.
I wonder if there is some combination of the two ideas we can use?
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at the
improvements that have been made recently.. the changes you guys made to
the Master TOC, the relative linking suggestion you had Nino... the
experiments with Interwiki linking from Bjoern... It's all really
interesting, and all stuff we can use.
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anything there attracts
your interest:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation
Feel free to send a short message to the mailing list to introduce
yourself. It would be nice to hear why you chose to join the
Documentation Project.
It is great to have you as part of the team.
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Clayton, from where do you have this member list?
When soemone joins the Doc Project via the main OOo website, Jean and I
get an email, and we go assign them Observer righ
und the
script syntax the first few times you use it) it's pretty much a fire
and forget tool. Set it up, start it on it's job.. wait until it's done.
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rom the title displayed at
the top of the page... using {{DISPLAYTITLE:Valideren van de L10N
Compilatie}}.
Have I explained it OK? or just further confused things? :-)
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ort of thing.
A big thanks to everyone who sent in a quote for the FOSDEM slides! It
was nice to see the replies :-) I've picked three... from Barbara, Drew
and Daniel and used them on the draft submission to the FOSDEM OOo booth
slides.
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as do
some user admin (like ban Spammers). Just let me know if you want this,
and what your Wiki ID is.
Are the Translation guidelines helpful? Can they be improved? Is there
anything you need from us (the Doc Team) to make things go smoother for
you and the translators?
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or MediaWiki. There are a few
MediaWiki projects that are working on some ideas for this, but nothing
is really in a state that I'd consider usable on the OOoWiki just yet.
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t; Comments?
What are the maintenance implications? Will it be clear on the building
a PDF side that the Math part included in the Writer Guide is
essentially a separate document? On the Wiki, it's easy... but outside
of the Wiki?
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the Spanish NL project?
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to correct and I'll cc you on the aforementioned email.
Interesting. I wodner if it's a specific mirror that's having issues?
When I initially replied to Edward, I tested a download here, and it was
working OK. Do you still see 403 errors Mike?
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at a lot of people
would like to have.
One thing missing is the PHP developer who's also interested in
translations. Programmers always like to "scratch their own itch" and
work on the things that interest them.. translations aren't always top
of the cool project list
/es.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectMailingListList
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ome parts of the wiki and the website are being
reorganised and rewritten. If some things seem inconsistent or unclear,
that's probably why. We also use the wiki for planning purposes. You are
welcome to join in. And don't be shy about asking questions on the list
when things are uncle
nd
how it's doing it, so some parts of the wiki and the website are being
reorganised and rewritten. If some things seem inconsistent or unclear,
that's probably why. We also use the wiki for planning purposes. You are
welcome to join in. And don't be shy about asking questions on
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I've removed the Needs Rework code for this page.
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uot;Applies to
OpenOffice.org version x.y.z". This would be something we could maybe
handle with a template?
I looked through the bug reports and didn't find much related to this
FAQ subject.
Does anyone here have OOo2.x or OOo3.0 installed and can test this?
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Is there some part of OpenOffice.org that you're comfortable with or
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is also not the latest. Writer guide mostly is
> latest but only because not much has been updated in odt to 3.2.
> Impress guide also has not been updated to 3.2 in odt. -- Jean
Ah, thanks for the correction Jean :-)
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On 02/21/2010 09:26 PM, Claire Wood wrote:
> Clayton
>
> I did the grammar check on the Calc/API page on the Wiki and had some
> feedback from TJ. I read the spreadsheet link you sent me below and I
> must admit it's totally over my head at this point, as I've only been
ourself
>
> http://www.facebook.com/dj.son.of.gus
>
> I shared a wiki page and let it display the logo...yuk
H. I wonder what Facebook is picking up on to display the Oracle
logo instead of the main OOo logo... and why it's got a really really
ugly dithered backgrou
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Clayton ,
Is the version 3.2 copies of the Administration Guide and Developer's
Guide available for download? I can not find them on the wiki. Looking
to add these to a disk I am putting together for ALA.
Not yet. I keep trying to get to the
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