On Sunday, March 8, 2015, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote:
On 08/03/2015 Simon Phipps wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
What about actually doing something?
That, sir, is insulting. If you want to propose a resolution,
do so, but please do not
On 07/03/2015 Dave Barton wrote:
Simon Phipps wrote:
when one does not have access to the privileged
conversations of the PMC, actions that use those conversations as
justification appear hostile, as do dismissive PMC member reactions
Well, if it is true (and it is true) that the private list
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
wrote:
You are suggesting a usage pattern of the private list that is far beyond
reality.
I am not. I am pointing out there is no way for me to know, and that the
strong reactions to Dave's original (modest reasonable)
, claimed a general
lack of transparency within the project and I totally reject your
suggestion that I have made any exaggerated claims or I am touting
some kind of conspiracy theory. However, there was a failure of
communication in the original PMC FAQ update thread.
+100%
Thank you Simon.
What
On 08/03/2015 Simon Phipps wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
What about actually doing something?
That, sir, is insulting. If you want to propose a resolution,
do so, but please do not attempt to hand out jobs.
Volunteering to do something is much more
that would not resonate
on dev@, user@, or the forums.
-Original Message-
From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 01:11
To: jan i
Cc: dev
Subject: community communication versus private PMC communication, WAS: PMC FAQ
update
Just realized, that many might jump
On 07/03/2015 jan i wrote:
On 7 March 2015 at 01:55, Simon Phipps wrote:
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
answer to your question on who is moderating the API list can readily be
found at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6095 and needed no
further discussion.
jan i wrote:
On Saturday, March 7, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
If you mean the over-use of private@ by the PMC, is there an issue to
discuss? Those of us on the PMC need to be attentive to minimizing private@
Well look at the numbers, I did not publish the numbers for 2014, but you
will
, 2015 01:11
To: jan i
Cc: dev
Subject: community communication versus private PMC communication, WAS:
PMC FAQ update
Just realized, that many might jump over the old subject.
This issue is an important issue and should not be hidden behind another
subject.
rgds
jan i.
[ ... ]
You
@openoffice.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Subject: Re: community communication versus private PMC communication, WAS: PMC
FAQ update
On Saturday, March 7, 2015, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:
I am not certain exactly what issue is proposed to be discussed here.
If you mean the over
On 7 March 2015 at 01:55, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
wrote:
On 06/03/2015 Dave Barton wrote:
OK! One last attempt to clarify and resolve a trivial issue, that has
become clouded in misunderstanding and
Just realized, that many might jump over the old subject.
This issue is an important issue and should not be hidden behind another
subject.
rgds
jan i.
On 7 March 2015 at 10:03, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
On 7 March 2015 at 01:55, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Sat, Mar 7,
Simon Phipps wrote:
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:
I'll ask one more time. What action is expected here on dev@ to impact
how the PMC uses private@ ?
I don't think there is any action that can be taken on dev@ beyond pointing
out to
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:45 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:
I'll ask one more time. What action is expected here on dev@ to impact
how the PMC uses private@ ?
I don't think there is any action that can be taken on dev@ beyond pointing
out to others here that, when one
On 06/03/2015 Dave Barton wrote:
OK! One last attempt to clarify and resolve a trivial issue, that has
become clouded in misunderstanding and mistranslated into some kind of
bike-shedding subject.
...and misunderstood (or portrayed) as a transparency issue, when the
answer to your question on
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
wrote:
On 06/03/2015 Dave Barton wrote:
OK! One last attempt to clarify and resolve a trivial issue, that has
become clouded in misunderstanding and mistranslated into some kind of
bike-shedding subject.
...and
On 6 March 2015 at 14:36, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 05/03/15 15:04, Louis Su�rez-Potts wrote:
On 05-03-2015, at 06:49, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:03 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
On 5 March 2015 at 11:42,
Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 05/03/15 15:04, Louis Su�rez-Potts wrote:
On 05-03-2015, at 06:49, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:03 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
On 5 March 2015 at 11:42, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM,
-- replying below to --
From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 06:03
To: dev
Subject: Re: PMC FAQ update
On 6 March 2015 at 14:36, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
[ ... ]
OK! One last attempt to clarify and resolve a trivial issue, that has
become clouded
On 6 March 2015 at 18:09, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
wrote:
-- replying below to --
From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org]
Sent: Friday, March 6, 2015 06:03
To: dev
Subject: Re: PMC FAQ update
On 6 March 2015 at 14:36, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
[ ... ]
OK! One
On 05/03/15 15:04, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote:
On 05-03-2015, at 06:49, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:03 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
On 5 March 2015 at 11:42, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dave Barton
, March 5, 2015 07:39 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
javascript:; Subject:
Re: PMC FAQ update
[ ... ]
If people want to tell the world what they do in such detail, they
should publish it, we should not publish peoples names without the
consent of the people.
My concern is not so
On Thursday, March 5, 2015, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
jan i wrote:
On Thursday, March 5, 2015, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net javascript:;
wrote:
jan i wrote:
On 5 March 2015 at 11:42, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com
javascript:; javascript:;
wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at
moderators (easier to change but that could be a problem)
Other suggestions?
-Original Message- From: jan i [mailto:j...@apache.org] Sent:
Thursday, March 5, 2015 07:39 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject:
Re: PMC FAQ update
[ ... ]
If people want to tell the world what they do
On 05-03-2015, at 06:49, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:03 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
On 5 March 2015 at 11:42, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at
On Thursday, March 5, 2015, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
jan i wrote:
On 5 March 2015 at 11:42, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com javascript:;
wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net
javascript:; wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Kay Schenk
, March 5, 2015 07:39
To: dev@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: PMC FAQ update
[ ... ]
If people want to tell the world what they do in such detail, they should
publish it, we should not publish peoples names without the consent of the
people.
My concern is not so much having the list of names
jan i wrote:
On Thursday, March 5, 2015, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
jan i wrote:
On 5 March 2015 at 11:42, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com javascript:;
wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net
javascript:; wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Kay
Kay Schenk wrote:
On 02/23/2015 02:17 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
I just updated the PMC FAQ page on the project website.
Please let us know if there are further changes to the persons listed as
e-mail moderators, wiki
On 5 March 2015 at 11:42, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
wrote:
I just updated the PMC FAQ page on the project website.
I see this page
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
wrote:
I just updated the PMC FAQ page on the project website.
I see this page has now been updated and the names of all the list
moderators have been
jan i wrote:
On 5 March 2015 at 11:42, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
wrote:
I just updated the PMC FAQ page on the project website.
I see this
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:03 AM, jan i j...@apache.org wrote:
On 5 March 2015 at 11:42, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote:
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Dave Barton d...@tasit.net wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com
wrote:
I
I just updated the PMC FAQ page on the project website.
Please let us know if there are further changes to the persons listed as
e-mail moderators, wiki admins, or anything else.
Thanks.
--
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MzK
An old horse for a long,
On Monday, February 23, 2015, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
I just updated the PMC FAQ page on the project website.
Please let us know if there are further changes to the persons listed as
e-mail moderators, wiki admins, or anything else.
Thanks.
--
Is there a reason why this mail is sent to both dev@ and private@ ?
Mixing private and public mail lists is not really a good thing.
rgds
jan i
On Monday, February 23, 2015, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
I just updated the PMC FAQ page on the project website.
Please let us know if
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
I just updated the PMC FAQ page on the project website.
Please let us know if there are further changes to the persons listed as
e-mail moderators, wiki admins, or anything else.
I'm pretty sure there are others - I
On 02/23/2015 02:17 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
I just updated the PMC FAQ page on the project website.
Please let us know if there are further changes to the persons listed as
e-mail moderators, wiki admins, or anything
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