Re: [OSM-dev] Restarting the EWG

2021-01-12 Thread Paul Norman via dev
I'm just going to reiterate the call for interested people to contact me. I'm not on the board, but restarting or forming a working group isn't something that needs to the board to start off On 2020-11-19 8:09 a.m., Paul Norman via dev wrote: The OSMF Board is looking at

Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Cartographic: A client-side rendered OpenStreetMap Carto

2020-12-08 Thread Paul Norman via dev
As Mapbox GL has been un-open sourced, I'm putting this project on hold until I figure out a suitable rendering engine. See https://github.com/pnorman/openstreetmap-cartographic/issues/7 On 2020-05-24 5:34 p.m., Paul Norman via dev wrote: I've been working on a new project, Ope

Re: [OSM-dev] New minutely replication test

2020-12-01 Thread Paul Norman via dev
On 2020-11-20 10:08 a.m., Paul Norman via dev wrote: We are looking to have users test this new feed for correctness to make sure it works with their update processes and software. To use it adjust your replication URL from https://planet.openstreetmap.org/replication/minute/ to https

[OSM-dev] New minutely replication test

2020-11-20 Thread Paul Norman via dev
One of the services the Operations Working Group (OWG) runs is the replication feed for OSM changes. This is used to broadcast changes which are picked up by data consumers. We are running a test of new software to power the replication feed, osmdbt (https://github.com/openstreetmap/osmdbt). The

[OSM-dev] Restarting the EWG

2020-11-19 Thread Paul Norman via dev
The OSMF Board is looking at restarting the Engineering Working Group with a revised scope to include handling paid software development. This scope needs to be developed with existing and new volunteers, but my ideas are that it would include - Google Summer of Code, - managing development to

[OSM-dev] Planet and ironbelly updates

2020-09-09 Thread Paul Norman via dev
Last month there were some problems with the weekly planet dump which impacted the website and API. Ironbelly, the primary site planet server, was upgraded to Ubuntu 20.04. This revealed a bug in planet-dump-ng, the software that generates the weekly planet dumps, which caused it to consume exces

[OSM-dev] Deprecation of Trac and SVN

2020-07-02 Thread Paul Norman via dev
The Operations Working Group is moving forward with the retirement of trac.openstreetmap.org and svn.openstreetmap.org. In August 2018 we reached out to some of the developers using svn.openstreetmap.org to warn them of the retirement of svn.openstreetmap.org. We will only be crea

Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Cartographic: A client-side rendered OpenStreetMap Carto

2020-06-10 Thread Paul Norman via dev
I've been busy with On 2020-05-24 10:26 p.m., Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Thank you for making this, it looks like a lot of work! These client-side vector tiles at z8? (https://pnorman.dev.openstreetmap.org/cartographic/mapbox-gl.html) My laptop (2015 Macbook Pro, 16 GB RAM, 2.2 GHz Intel Core i

Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Cartographic: A client-side rendered OpenStreetMap Carto

2020-05-26 Thread Paul Norman via dev
On 2020-05-25 1:15 a.m., Maarten Deen wrote: Still, it looks to be a very simplified subset of the complete data. So I'd be interested to see how this works on a full dataset. No, it has the full data except for admin boundaries and bay/straight names on zoom 7 and 8. When you compare it to Op

Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Cartographic: A client-side rendered OpenStreetMap Carto

2020-05-25 Thread Paul Norman via dev
On 2020-05-25 9:25 a.m., Jason Remillard wrote: Hi Paul, The Mapbox GL styles are very low level, and are like the mapnik XML input files. The Mapbox GL editing tools available don't seem to provide abstractions over the underlying specification. Yes, the specification and tools are quite cl

Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Cartographic: A client-side rendered OpenStreetMap Carto

2020-05-25 Thread Paul Norman via dev
On 2020-05-24 10:26 p.m., Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Thank you for making this, it looks like a lot of work! These client-side vector tiles at z8? (https://pnorman.dev.openstreetmap.org/cartographic/mapbox-gl.html) My laptop (2015 Macbook Pro, 16 GB RAM, 2.2 GHz Intel Core i7) appears to use so

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Cartographic: A client-side rendered OpenStreetMap Carto

2020-05-24 Thread Paul Norman via dev
I've been working on a new project, OpenStreetMap Cartographic. This is a client-side rendering based on OpenStreetMap Carto. This is an ambitious project, as OpenStreetMap Carto is an extremely complex style which shows a large number of features. The technical choices I'm making are designed so

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v5.0.0

2020-03-18 Thread Paul Norman via dev
Dear all, Today, v5.0.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - An update to Lua tag transforms,

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.22.0

2019-08-27 Thread Paul Norman via dev
Dear all, Today, v4.22.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Shop label fixes and use ST_Poi

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.21.0

2019-05-01 Thread Paul Norman via dev
Dear all, Today, v4.21.0 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. Changes include - Removed unused world_boundaries-

Re: [OSM-dev] Pre-rendered OpenStreetMap Carto tiles

2019-02-21 Thread Paul Norman via dev
On 2019-02-21 6:06 p.m., Anish Mangal wrote: Is your new tileset raster or vector? I intend to go about making a base OSM tileset in vector, + high zoom regional vector tilesets. Also intend to render srtm data as contour+hillshade. I was looking at openmaptiles for the same. I do not find

Re: [OSM-dev] Pre-rendered OpenStreetMap Carto tiles

2019-02-21 Thread Paul Norman via dev
On 2019-01-06 1:21 p.m., Paul Norman wrote: Many people have asked about downloading low-zoom tiles of OpenStreetMap Carto. I’ve completed my project to script automatic downloading, importing, and pre-rendering of an OpenStreetMap Carto database to make it available for others, and have put

[OSM-dev] Pre-rendered OpenStreetMap Carto tiles

2019-01-06 Thread Paul Norman
Many people have asked about downloading low-zoom tiles of OpenStreetMap Carto. I’ve completed my project to script automatic downloading, importing, and pre-rendering of an OpenStreetMap Carto database to make it available for others, and have put the results on one of my servers at http://leg

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.12.1

2018-06-29 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v4.12.1 of the OpenStreetMap Carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on the OSM website) has been released. Once changes are deployed on the openstreetmap.org it will take couple of days before all tiles show the new rendering. The sole change is dropping rendering of the surfa

Re: [OSM-dev] Bolder - Starting a new client-side OpenStreetMap style

2018-04-30 Thread Paul Norman
On Apr 30, 2018, at 04:03 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: I think that is a good idea - i in particular like that the toolchain used seems to be free of NodeJS. ;-) This was in the back of my mind, but more important to me was being free of Mapnik. Mapnik offers great output if generating imag

Re: [OSM-dev] Bolder - Starting a new client-side OpenStreetMap style

2018-04-30 Thread Paul Norman
I managed to forget a very important link, that of the repository:  https://github.com/pnorman/bolder On Apr 30, 2018, at 03:06 AM, Paul Norman wrote: This is a copy of my diary entry, which has a picture:  https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman/diary/43814 I’ve started work on a new

[OSM-dev] Bolder - Starting a new client-side OpenStreetMap style

2018-04-30 Thread Paul Norman
This is a copy of my diary entry, which has a picture:  https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/pnorman/diary/43814 I’ve started work on a new client-side style for OpenStreetMap data, and feel it’s reached the point where I can release it to the public. My goal is to make a style that shows a rich

[OSM-dev] osm2pgsql 0.96.0-RC1

2018-04-22 Thread Paul Norman
We're preparing to release 0.96.0 of osm2pgsql. The user-facing changes in this version include - Freeing drive and RAM earlier with --drop imports, including the flat nodes file, giving more space for clustering and indexing. - Extend web Mercator to 89.99 latitude again, reducing broken po

Re: [OSM-dev] about Carto and SQL

2018-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/20/2018 1:40 PM, sav123 wrote: Kompza covered the variables you mentioned, but I if you're looking at benchmarking, I recommend you set up the full rendering stack rather than trying to generate queries yourself. The latter can be tricky to get right, and you have to handle parallelism th

Re: [OSM-dev] about Carto and SQL

2018-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/20/2018 9:13 AM, sav123 wrote: I hope to be able to grab enough information to partition some or all the postgresql tables and to publish the resulting comparison boards. I know that it is possible to setup logs and to check them, but this method may miss rare calls ... Kompza covered t

Re: [OSM-dev] GSOC Project: "Make the website use the API"

2018-03-01 Thread Paul Norman
wrote: Hello, My name is  Biswesh. I am a second year Computer Science student and am very keen on contributing to OSM for GSOC 2018. I have been looking into the idea list for GSOC 2018 and found out the project - “ Make the website use the API “ proposed by Paul Norman <ht

Re: [OSM-dev] Synchronous mode

2018-02-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/20/2018 12:07 PM, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote: This suggests that currently apidb replicas aren't in synchronous mode. Can it be switched to synchronous? https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.5/static/warm-standby.html#SYNCHRONOUS-REPLICATION Given the absolutely miserable perform

Re: [OSM-dev] Read-only API calls, fair usage

2018-02-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/20/2018 2:56 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 20.02.2018 10:51, Michał Brzozowski wrote: You can use changeset replication with ChangesetMD to query your own DB. I was tempted to respond the same, but I imagine the idea is that as soon as the user clicks on the "I have fixed this" button,

Re: [OSM-dev] Working with OSM data with less or no metadata

2018-02-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/14/2018 8:17 AM, Roland Olbricht wrote: - How about simply asking the users for consent? We could then -- make a clear-cut last complete history dump before the date -- start with a planet dump without history before that date afterwards that then accumulates history only from users that h

[OSM-dev] Extra-large metatiles

2018-01-14 Thread Paul Norman
I'm working on a script to do some pre-rendering of a Mapnik-based tile layer. Conventional meta-tile sizes would be 4x4 or 8x8, but these are selected to balance latency and throughput or efficiency. I'm using mapproxy, which stores the tiles as individual files on-disk, not mod_tile, which st

Re: [OSM-dev] OSMand Live can steal your money

2018-01-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/12/2018 6:03 AM, Andy Allan wrote: In general, I'd like to disable HTTP Basic Auth to our API, and only use OAuth. This removes any need to share your OSM password with third parties. However, developers often find it easier to build integrations using basic auth, so I can imagine some oppos

Re: [OSM-dev] Automatically triggering export as PDF from openstreetmap.org -> share?

2017-12-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/21/2017 2:01 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Of course, the canonical solution is "install your own postgres/mapnik/nik4.py and run it locally";) If you are intending to generate a PDF with Mapnik I recommend generating a 300-600 dpi raster PNG and embedding it in a PDF. _

Re: [OSM-dev] Advantages PostgreSQL 10.0 + PostGIS 2.4

2017-10-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 10/8/2017 11:03 AM, Sven Geggus wrote: Hello, Debian stable 9.x comes with PostgreSQL 9.6 and Postgis 2.3. However the now released PostgreSQL 10.0 and Postgis 2.4 are an easy backport. Will the newer version provide any advantage for a osm2pgsql database use case? Yes, but nothing game-c

Re: [OSM-dev] osm2pgsql 0.94.0 release candidate

2017-10-03 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/18/2017 2:03 PM, Paul Norman wrote: We're looking at releasing osm2pgsql 0.94.0 soon and could use testing of the 0.94.0-RC1 version. We've tagged 0.94.0-RC2. This fixes a problem where an invalid geometry could end up in the tables if it was valid in EPSG 4326. This is a

[OSM-dev] osm2pgsql 0.94.0 release candidate

2017-09-18 Thread Paul Norman
We're looking at releasing osm2pgsql 0.94.0 soon and could use testing of the 0.94.0-RC1 version. Testing from packagers is appreciated, particularly if you are doing something different with libosmium. Major changes - Store unprojected coordinates in slim tables and use osmium dense file   arra

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v4.3.0

2017-09-16 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v4.3.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include - Moving ford and emergency phone to a new tagging scheme - Moving natural=tree to higher zoom level (z18+) - Changing embassy color to brown - Renderin

Re: [OSM-dev] Questions regarding carto 4.0 release and German style fork

2017-05-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 5/28/2017 1:59 PM, Paul Norman wrote: This is not supported, so you'll have to figure out the details yourself. I recommend writing a script that reads in two osm2pgsql .style files. I should add that this was a conscious decision by the osm-carto developers, and we discussed a numb

Re: [OSM-dev] Questions regarding carto 4.0 release and German style fork

2017-05-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 5/28/2017 12:25 PM, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: I'd also be interested in the implications of the upcoming changes as I'm currently running many different styles from the same --hstore-all import, some of them using the OpenStreetMap Carto style osm2pgsql tables directly, some using views based

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto v3.3.0 release

2017-05-10 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v3.3.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. This may not be immediately rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers, but that is up to the OSM sysadmin team, not the openstreetmap-carto maintainers. Changes inclu

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto schema change updates

2017-04-25 Thread Paul Norman
We've decided to drop support for old-style multipolygons in OpenStreetMap Carto 4.0.0. This has resolved our outstanding issues, and we now feel the work is ready to merge. The big changes are - database schema change; - disjoint area handling; - different tag columns; and - multipolygon ha

[OSM-dev] osm2pgsql minor releases

2017-04-19 Thread Paul Norman
osm2pgsql 0.92.1 and 0.90.2 have been released. 0.92.1 contains two changes from 0.92.0 - A fix to the large relation bug encountered in March and documented in https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2017-March/029770.html. This is an important fix if you are using minutely updates, and

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v3.2.0

2017-04-17 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v3.20 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include - Render aeroway terminal buildings like other buildings - Removed rendering of landuse=farm - Added rendering for arts centre, fitness centre, plant nur

Re: [OSM-dev] PHP vs. Ruby in OSM projects

2017-03-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/21/2017 8:02 AM, Hakuch wrote: On 21.03.2017 02:50, Paul Norman wrote: On 3/20/2017 9:22 AM, Hakuch wrote: It depends. For projects that produce webpages, there's probably more Ruby activity than PHP activity. Python is also pretty popular. did you want to say "projects t

Re: [OSM-dev] PHP vs. Ruby in OSM projects

2017-03-20 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/20/2017 9:22 AM, Hakuch wrote: What do you think, are there more php or more ruby developers in OSM ? Normally within open source projects people tend to use ruby, but many times I saw small projects coded in php. Iam currently unsure if I should start a new project with php/symfony or ruby/

Re: [OSM-dev] API project idea

2017-03-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 3/18/2017 2:23 AM, Subhani Munasinghe wrote: Hi everyone, Can someone please tell me how to get contacted with a mentor of the project idea "Make the website use the API". I would like to know more about that project idea, because I would love to work with Java since I am skilled with

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC API mentoring help needed

2017-02-21 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/20/2017 12:19 AM, Andy Allan wrote: I can see the purpose of this, but I've never seen it as being as high a priority as other developers do. For me the concerns all stem from code duplication, principally leading to more optimization work on one path, so cgimap is much faster than brows

[OSM-dev] GSoC API mentoring help needed

2017-02-19 Thread Paul Norman
Much to my surprise, I have 2-4 students issued in my API-related GSoC proposals. This is more than one person or even two people can mentor, so I'm asking for help. The cgimap-ruby, cgimap read-only support, cgimap write support, and make the website use the API Some of the proposals involve

[OSM-dev] osm2pgsql default database change

2017-02-06 Thread Paul Norman
The behavior of osm2pgsql when no database is specified is changing in the next release. New releases will rely on libpq to pick the database if nothing is explicitly specified, typically either resulting in a database of what the PGDATABASE environment variable is set to, or the user's name.

Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC 2017

2017-02-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 2/1/2017 10:34 PM, Ronak Jain wrote: After going through the list of possible idea's for this summer, I would like to consider Full cgimap write support Full cgimap read-only support I have chosen these as I have good experience with the languages being used in the project also I have worked

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto database schema change

2017-01-30 Thread Paul Norman
One of the long-running OpenStreetMap Carto projects has been a database schema change, https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/2533. Included in this are - database schema change; - disjoint area handling; - different tag columns; and - multipolygon handling changes This

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v3.1.0

2017-01-28 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v3.1.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include - Added coffee shop rendering - Added health clinic rendering - Adjusted place label typography - Road shield rendering improvements - Internal code cle

Re: [OSM-dev] size of postgresql database - without flat file

2017-01-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/28/2017 3:00 PM, Walter Nordmann wrote: i'm just installing my brand new server to get my applications (missing boundaries and many more) running again. The server has 2x 960GB SSD and 1x 2TB SATA disk installed. I'm doing a full planet import using osm2pgsql 0.92. This time i'm doing

Re: [OSM-dev] tile generation performance

2017-01-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/12/2017 12:29 PM, Joseph Armbruster wrote: Do you or anyone else know someone that has performed tile generation for some of the lower levels / scales recently, say for levels 15 - 20? Higher zooms (12+) typically take about 1 second per 8x8 metatile per CPU thread. 15+ tiles are not pre-

Re: [OSM-dev] Incoming osm2pgsql change without migrations

2017-01-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 1/6/2017 11:28 AM, Walter Nordmann wrote: Hi Paul, in other words: because i'm using the diff-process i have to reload the full planet once, right? When will this osm2pgsql be availiabe? I'm asking because my osm database server has broken some days ago and starting end of next week i mu

[OSM-dev] Incoming osm2pgsql change without migrations

2017-01-05 Thread Paul Norman
There is an incoming change to osm2pgsql which changes the format of slim tables. This will change the schema of the slim tables, but have no impact on the rendering tables. The change is to use unprojected coordinates in slim tables, and an osmium dense file array instead of flat nodes. There

Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v3.0.0

2016-12-23 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/22/2016 4:57 AM, Sven Geggus wrote: Christoph Hormann wrote: No, the new project.mml is just a renamed project.yaml. *argh* So it would be best to do a git mv project.yaml project.mml before trying to merge? On our side project.yaml was moved to project.mml in one commit by itself,

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v3.0.0

2016-12-21 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v3.0.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Major changes include - Mapnik 3 is now required - CartoCSS 0.16.x is now required - Official Tilemill support is dropped - Shapefiles are downloaded with a new python

Re: [OSM-dev] osm2pgsql 0.92.0-RC1 release

2016-12-16 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/7/2016 2:57 PM, Paul Norman wrote: osm2pgsql 0.92.0-RC1 has been tagged in preperation for a release. Feedback is welcome, in particular from downstream packagers. You can get the release from git or https://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/releases/tag/0.92.0-RC1. 0.92.0 has been

Re: [OSM-dev] Turning boundaries to linestrings

2016-12-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/13/2016 9:04 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: that's a nice hack which will generally work, but having overlapping boundaries (different ways on the same position) is not a clear "error" in OSM, so it is not 100% reliable. No. I looked at the data visually with transparency to find overlap

Re: [OSM-dev] Turning boundaries to linestrings

2016-12-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 12/13/2016 4:33 AM, Christoph Hormann wrote: On Tuesday 13 December 2016, Paul Norman wrote: Feedback from anyone interested in using this output is welcome, as well as any additional information that should be added to the linestrings. You have some conflicting goals here - you want to

[OSM-dev] Turning boundaries to linestrings

2016-12-12 Thread Paul Norman
A common problem with rendering administrative boundaries from OpenStreetMap data is the need to create non-overlapping linestrings from the admin relations. This is necessary for many styles, particularly any which want to use dashes. Ideally the information would be present in on way tags, but t

[OSM-dev] osm2pgsql 0.92.0-RC1 release

2016-12-07 Thread Paul Norman
osm2pgsql 0.92.0-RC1 has been tagged in preperation for a release. Feedback is welcome, in particular from downstream packagers. You can get the release from git or https://github.com/openstreetmap/osm2pgsql/releases/tag/0.92.0-RC1. The big changes are - PostgreSQL 9.1 + PostGIS 2.0 or later

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto dependency changes

2016-12-04 Thread Paul Norman
OpenStreetMap Carto has changed it's dependencies, which will impact any third parties using the style. The changes are - Mapnik 3 is now required - CartoCSS >= 0.16.0 is now required - Official Tilemill support is dropped. Tilemill does not meet the above requirements - project.mml is now

Re: [OSM-dev] A PostgreSQL extension for real-time simplification of objects in OSM API database

2016-11-16 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/16/2016 5:37 AM, RTOSM DOOPAS wrote: The rtosm map call (not that exact, but the framework is clear): [...] 6. send back the simplified objects to request. The purpose of the API and the apidb is for editing. How would someone edit the simplified object?

Re: [OSM-dev] Tilemaker v1.4

2016-11-07 Thread Paul Norman
On 11/7/2016 9:28 AM, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Hi all, Really pleased to announce a new version of Tilemaker on github: https://github.com/systemed/tilemaker Tilemaker is a command-line application that makes vector tiles in one hit, directly from an .osm.pbf file. There is no database and no

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.44.1

2016-10-12 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v2.44.1 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Also, v2.44.0 was released last month without an email, so this email includes changes in both. v2.44.0 has been rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers, but v2.44.

Re: [OSM-dev] How does osm2pgsql handle multiple matches of same key?

2016-09-16 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/16/2016 5:37 PM, Spencer Gardner wrote: It's not clear to me how osm2pgsql handles multiple values for the same key on an OSM feature. For example, imagine I have a way with the following tags: parking:lane:right=perpendicular parking:lane:left=parallel "parking:lane:right" and "parking:

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM API lookups to complement minutely diffs?

2016-09-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/15/2016 1:53 PM, Stefan Keller wrote: Is it OK to do API lookups like this https://www.osm.org/api/0.6/nodes?nodes=59906080,4400821613 even for minutely diffs? Any alternatives? No, particularly if your code takes off and multiple people start running it. I would guess that it would hit

Re: [OSM-dev] Road Speed In South Africa Geotab

2016-09-15 Thread Paul Norman
No one has replied, likely because it's not a really a dev@ subject, so I'll provide some basic info. On 9/13/2016 2:34 AM, Riaan Grobler wrote: *Problem* : We are experiencing more and more road that do not have updated road speed, see below as an example attached Road speed coverage wi

[OSM-dev] RFC: OSM data format MIME types

2016-09-14 Thread Paul Norman
I'm planning on registering MIME types for OSM formats in the vendor tree and could use feedback. If you're unfamiliar with registering MIME types, https://github.com/mapbox/vector-tile-spec/issues/48 is a reasonable overview for a registration that took place with a different format. The ob

Re: [OSM-dev] PostGIS query "Crossing ways"

2016-09-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/12/2016 9:56 AM, Mike N wrote: I did use the --slim option when importing, and see the node table, but I don't see topology in a direct table view. The ways table has node membership information. Joining the table on w1.nodes && w2.nodes and differing way IDs will find ways that share no

Re: [OSM-dev] PostGIS query "Crossing ways"

2016-09-11 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/11/2016 8:20 AM, Mike N wrote: Given a PostGIS database populated from OSM data by osm2pgsql, and 2 sets of lines (such as the selection of all footways and the selection of all roads) what function or series of functions will result in a list of locations where footways cross roads wit

[OSM-dev] PostgreSQL 9.6 coming out

2016-09-09 Thread Paul Norman
PostgreSQL 9.6 RC1 has been released, and depending on bugs found, 9.6 should be released soon. There are a few changes which should help anyone running PostGIS workloads with OSM data. From the release notes[1] I've extracted some relevant stuff for this list Big new stuff: - Parallel querie

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.43.0

2016-09-05 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v2.43.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. It has not yet been rolled out to the openstreetmap.org servers. Changes include - Adjust alotments pattern - Whitespace cleanups of code - Adjust colours of dog parks

Re: [OSM-dev] Planet change tile expiry list service

2016-09-02 Thread Paul Norman
On 9/1/2016 1:25 AM, Yves wrote: Along with minutely diffs, I wonder if expired tiles lists would be something to be shared: this is something each tile server is doing by itself by now, and seems a waste in ressources. From what I've seen if you're already running a server with the full pla

Re: [OSM-dev] Evaluate layer list from CartoCSS style

2016-08-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/28/2016 8:07 AM, Stadin, Benjamin wrote: we’re defining the data structure for the next version of our 3D map, a basic feature of it is the indoor capability. I could write more about the background, but to keep it short for now: I need to generate an ordered list of layers with their table

Re: [OSM-dev] Experimenting with ClearTables, self-hosted vector tiles, and Tangram client-side rendering

2016-08-25 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/25/2016 12:45 AM, Oleksiy Muzalyev wrote: I looked at several cities at the Tangram map. I like especially Crosshatch style, - very impressive. It takes a split second to find say the Eiffel Tower on the Tangram map: https://tangrams.github.io/carousel/?crosshatch#16/48.8616/2.3082 and in

[OSM-dev] Experimenting with ClearTables, self-hosted vector tiles, and Tangram client-side rendering

2016-08-23 Thread Paul Norman
I've been experimenting with generating my own vector tiles and client-side rendering with Tangram[1] in order to figure out how to best write its styling language. Tangram is a GL-based renderer written by Mapzen and normally used with their Tilezen[2] vector tiles, but I'm interested in being a

Re: [OSM-dev] Polygon inner/outer relation in osm file

2016-08-23 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/23/2016 6:58 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: recently we stumbled upon problematic behavior of current multipoligon processing in osm-carto OpenStreetMap Carto does not do any multipolygon processing. That is all done by osm2pgsql, and the behavior of osm2pgsql has changed significantly

Re: [OSM-dev] Nominatim Index bloat? Try pgindexrebuild, a production friendly index debloater

2016-08-19 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/19/2016 4:30 AM, Rory McCann wrote: Although I'm using this often, I'm always open to suggestions about braindead things I might be doing. ☺ Suggestions welcome! It's good to see commands for a concurrent reindex scripted. For rendering tables I'd recommend pausing updates, creating a new

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto issues of interest

2016-08-18 Thread Paul Norman
There are some OpenStreetMap Carto issues which might be interesting to a larger audience Improving the water colour: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1781 There's been a discussion of options for improving the water colour to improve contrast with a number of other

Re: [OSM-dev] Diff issues: minutely overwritten by later data/incompl. daily diffs

2016-08-14 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/14/2016 2:56 AM, mmd wrote: Processing daily diffs is in fact a very convenient to load 4 years worth of OSM data (needed for full history), rather than downloading more than 2 Mio. minutely diffs. I don't know about the data issues, but I suggest you use the full history. Over half the d

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/12/2016 11:27 AM, Matthijs Melissen wrote: I would also like to point out that there might be a conflict of interest here between commercial operators of OpenStreetMap services, and the rest of the community. While in theory there could be a conflict, most of the admins do not sell tile s

Re: [OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 8/12/2016 4:34 AM, Maarten Deen wrote: I have wondered about this. Does rate limiting now not occur? I have seen a lot of times that the map in the JOSM downloadscreen gets slow if you pan around a lot or use it a lot to download lots of small areas. Also the mapnik overlay has this issue.

[OSM-dev] Tile usage without proper identification

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Norman
The usage policy for tile.openstreetmap.org requires that users send a valid user-agent[1], or, in the case of a web browser, a HTTP Referer. Ops are looking into automatically rate limiting clients violating this part of the policy.[2] The reason for rate limiting instead of blocking is that if

Re: [OSM-dev] osm2pgsql 0.90.1 release

2016-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/18/2016 6:07 AM, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: Important for context is that "something" was mapnik (from 2.2 to 3.0), which is non-trivial due to breaking its reverse dependencies. I believe I also asked about osm2pgsql, but I'm left in a situation where I don't have the permissions to do

Re: [OSM-dev] osm2pgsql 0.90.1 release

2016-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/18/2016 4:32 AM, Komяpa wrote: Hello, Is it available for Ubuntu Xenial? It should compile fine, but Xenial has osm2pgsql 0.88.1 by default. I haven't backported all the changes to the 0.88.x branch, but I could. The chances of Ubuntu getting the bug fixes is close to zero. I asked f

[OSM-dev] osm2pgsql 0.90.1 release

2016-07-18 Thread Paul Norman
osm2pgsql 0.90.1 has been released This is a maintainance release without new features - outdated stuff cleanup - null pointer dereference fix - don't unicode sort geohashes - process relations for line tables with the multi-backend - generic projection fix Upgrading is recommended. The geo

[OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap Carto release v2.41.0

2016-07-13 Thread Paul Norman
Dear all, Today, v2.41.0 of the openstreetmap-carto stylesheet (the default stylesheet on openstreetmap.org) has been released. Changes include * More consistent fonts for POI labels * Less saturated stadiums * Rendering obelisks and dog parks * An updated list of font packages * Cleaning up the

Re: [OSM-dev] Taginfo files from osm2pgsql style files

2016-07-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/13/2016 2:11 AM, Sven Geggus wrote: Hm, looks like this does not make that much sense in case of a hstore-only database like the one I am using in the german style setup. Yes, I designed it for the defaults. If you add hstore options any tag can be used and there's no way to indicate that

[OSM-dev] Taginfo files from osm2pgsql style files

2016-07-13 Thread Paul Norman
Taginfo allows projects to define a list of tags they use, which then appear in http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/projects. Osm2pgsql style files define a list of tag keys that are used by osm2pgsql, if the keys are for nodes, ways, or both, and if the keys cause an object to be an area. I wrot

Re: [OSM-dev] Modeling OSM sidewalk data

2016-07-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/12/2016 3:44 AM, Andy Townsend wrote: On 12/07/2016 08:42, Paul Norman wrote: Rather than having sidewalk data available in a column, I instead with a different highway value for "this road has a usable sidewalk". We already have a plethora of highway values, so the ext

Re: [OSM-dev] Modeling OSM sidewalk data

2016-07-12 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/12/2016 2:15 AM, Komяpa wrote: Both ways are only applicable to cities with blocky structure. In ex-USSR, architecture of cities is different, and footways / sidewalks graph is more complicated than a replica of roads for cars, so all the sidewalks have to be drawn separately. Yes, I sh

[OSM-dev] Modeling OSM sidewalk data

2016-07-12 Thread Paul Norman
I'm working on putting OSM sidewalk data into PostgreSQL with ClearTables (https://github.com/ClearTables/ClearTables/issues/39) and looking at two different ways, and wondering if anyone has experience modeling it. There are two obvious options 1. Have a sidewalk column with an enum type wit

Re: [OSM-dev] Using API 0.6 to create a new node

2016-06-15 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/14/2016 8:41 AM, toni hernández wrote: Hi everyone, I am trying to display OSM data into my web map as well as other custom layers. One of the goals of my web application is to upload data from my application to the osm database. I have been reading this http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wi

Re: [OSM-dev] Mukti and Gargi fonts for openstreetmap-carto

2016-06-11 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/11/2016 11:44 AM, Sven Geggus wrote: Hm so can't we just go for "No Tofu" fonts? They are supported by Google and are available as a Debian Package: https://www.google.com/get/noto/ https://packages.debian.org/sid/fonts-noto Well, no one has done much research into issue #1067 which cover

Re: [OSM-dev] Mukti and Gargi fonts for openstreetmap-carto

2016-06-09 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/7/2016 2:44 AM, Sven Geggus wrote: Hello, I'm trying to install all required fonts for openstreetmap-carto on debian stable. Two fonts seem to be troublesome: "Mukti Narrow Bold" and "gargi Medium" While the former seems to be there (/usr/share/fonts/truetype/fonts-beng-extra/MuktiNarrowB

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM + iD + Nominatim Setup instructions

2016-06-04 Thread Paul Norman
On 6/4/2016 9:34 AM, Stadin, Benjamin wrote: Hi Bryan, thank you for these pointers. A somehwat unrelated question: The FAQ mentions cgimap. Is this performance optimized map API implementation still relevant and is it still in use? Will a production system benefit from this significantly,

Re: [OSM-dev] Updated simplified osm2pgsql database dump available

2016-05-25 Thread Paul Norman
On 5/25/2016 2:32 PM, Sven Geggus wrote: I have always been wondering if it would be possible to get rid of the special tables used for the sole purpose of keeping the rendering database up-to-date by using a scheme like this: osm2pgsql database with special tables -> some psql replication sche

Re: [OSM-dev] Updated simplified osm2pgsql database dump available

2016-05-25 Thread Paul Norman
On 5/25/2016 3:11 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: I am guessing that data is from 25-04-2016. Is it a correct guess? Yes. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

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