On Friday, 21 October 2016 at 23:08:06 UTC, Benjiro wrote:
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 09:10:10 UTC, Chris wrote:
O, that webshop that now needs a rewrite from zero, was a
direct result of another outsource. Yay! And the client ends up
paying ( again ) for that.
Some things never chan
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 09:10:10 UTC, Chris wrote:
I.e. "He agrees with me, therefore I like him!" One year of
meetings to design a website does not necessarily mean the
site's good or that it has to take at least a year until you
have a presentable website.
Sorry, was too busy with s
On Friday, 21 October 2016 at 12:31:00 UTC, Mark wrote:
I second that.
Also, it may be a good idea to simply use classical algorithms
(binary search, quicksort, etc.), written in "D style", as
examples. The typical visitor is probably familiar with these
algorithms and thus the foreign synta
On Friday, 21 October 2016 at 10:24:40 UTC, Chris wrote:
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 21:52:09 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
On 10/20/2016 04:16 PM, Karabuta wrote:
We can't assume all beginners come from imperative languages.
D beginners may come from languages where the idiomatic way
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 21:52:09 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 10/20/2016 04:16 PM, Karabuta wrote:
We can't assume all beginners come from imperative languages. D
beginners may come from languages where the idiomatic way of
doing things is by means of pipelines. Generally it's
On 10/20/2016 04:16 PM, Karabuta wrote:
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 19:52:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 10/20/2016 03:48 PM, Karabuta wrote:
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 14:04:06 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 10/20/2016 07:38 AM, Nick Treleaven wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 19:52:32 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 10/20/2016 03:48 PM, Karabuta wrote:
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 14:04:06 UTC, Andrei
Alexandrescu wrote:
On 10/20/2016 07:38 AM, Nick Treleaven wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 at 16:07:19 UTC, Nick Treleaven
wro
On 10/20/2016 03:48 PM, Karabuta wrote:
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 14:04:06 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 10/20/2016 07:38 AM, Nick Treleaven wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 at 16:07:19 UTC, Nick Treleaven wrote:
I think this example is a bit awkward for D newbies to decipher. I
th
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 14:04:06 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 10/20/2016 07:38 AM, Nick Treleaven wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 at 16:07:19 UTC, Nick Treleaven
wrote:
I think this example is a bit awkward for D newbies to
decipher. I
think here we are showing D's ctRegex; drop
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 14:04:06 UTC, Andrei Alexandrescu
wrote:
On 10/20/2016 07:38 AM, Nick Treleaven wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 at 16:07:19 UTC, Nick Treleaven
wrote:
I think this example is a bit awkward for D newbies to
decipher. I
think here we are showing D's ctRegex; drop
On 10/20/2016 07:38 AM, Nick Treleaven wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 at 16:07:19 UTC, Nick Treleaven wrote:
I think this example is a bit awkward for D newbies to decipher. I
think here we are showing D's ctRegex; dropping the functional map and
lambdas would make this more universally under
On Thursday, 20 October 2016 at 11:38:04 UTC, Nick Treleaven
wrote:
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 at 16:07:19 UTC, Nick Treleaven
wrote:
I think this example is a bit awkward for D newbies to
decipher. I think here we are showing D's ctRegex; dropping
the functional map and lambdas would make this
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 at 16:07:19 UTC, Nick Treleaven wrote:
I think this example is a bit awkward for D newbies to
decipher. I think here we are showing D's ctRegex; dropping the
functional map and lambdas would make this more universally
understood.
https://github.com/dlang/dlang.org/p
On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 at 09:51:50 UTC, Benjiro wrote:
The current homepage example is in my option, right between
group 2 and 3. And its disregarding group one and two.
What about setting up snippets about things people want to know
about straight away like:
1. OOP
2. Functional pr
On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 at 20:46:08 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 at 09:28:28 UTC, Benjiro wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 20:51:24 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
[...]
True. Anybody can make a website. A website that is efficient,
takes time. A stupid travel booking w
On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 at 09:28:28 UTC, Benjiro wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 20:51:24 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
[...]
True. Anybody can make a website. A website that is efficient,
takes time. A stupid travel booking website took over a year
with constant meeting to design around
On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 at 11:30:03 UTC, rikki cattermole
wrote:
On 20/10/2016 12:08 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On that note, maybe we should setup a 'real code' pool so
people can see real code, preferably on a few files big that
does a specific but useful task.
Actually, that'd b
On 20/10/2016 12:08 AM, Andrei Alexandrescu wrote:
On 10/19/16 5:28 AM, Benjiro wrote:
No offense to Andrei, while his is funny, he is simply thinking above my
head. Walter is actually better at explain things.
None taken! And thanks for your feedback. I think you have an easy means
of helping
On 10/19/16 5:28 AM, Benjiro wrote:
No offense to Andrei, while his is funny, he is simply thinking above my
head. Walter is actually better at explain things.
None taken! And thanks for your feedback. I think you have an easy means
of helping progress here. Simply send more code snippets for
On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 at 09:51:50 UTC, Benjiro wrote:
[snip]
And no offense but basic D is just the same as basic PHP. They
are all C languages. If somebody can start in PHP, they can
start in D. The big difference is that there is much more
materials available for PHP, so people mor
On Wednesday, 19 October 2016 at 09:32:29 UTC, Chris wrote:
At the beginning, D was not meant to be a "first language", but
this has changed over time. In fact, almost all new modern
languages that emerge now have features that D has, like
templates, !boo ;), so beginners will have to learn t
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 20:51:24 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 10:04:35 UTC, Benjiro wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 09:26:56 UTC, Chris wrote:
The issue is, that in order to understand the example, you are
already required to have a knowledge of the languag
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 20:51:24 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
They will not understand. Those are the UX stuff you learn when
you are a web designer/developer.
True. Anybody can make a website. A website that is efficient,
takes time. A stupid travel booking website took over a year with
con
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 12:49:55 UTC, Benjiro wrote:
When people have a choice between a multitude of website,
programming languages, ... people make choices fast.
[snip]
There are three things here. First, you initially made your
decision not to use D based not only on the homepage (on
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 10:04:35 UTC, Benjiro wrote:
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 09:26:56 UTC, Chris wrote:
The issue is, that in order to understand the example, you are
already required to have a knowledge of the language.
I can only use myself as a example. Only started to reall
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 15:41:29 UTC, Jesse Phillips wrote:
On Monday, 17 October 2016 at 20:13:19 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
I would suggest they remove all templates and make it its own
example.
* Basic functional/ranges example = map, filter, reduce
Templates
* basic helloworld = wr
On Monday, 17 October 2016 at 20:13:19 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
I would suggest they remove all templates and make it its own
example.
* Basic functional/ranges example = map, filter, reduce
Templates
* basic helloworld = write the string "Hello, World!"
Template (implicit)
* Basic sort
When people have a choice between a multitude of website,
programming languages, ... people make choices fast.
Personally moved over 5 different programming languages in 3
months time trying to find the ideal match. So my attention span
is not exactly small. But when faced with a entire series
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 10:04:35 UTC, Benjiro wrote:
The issue is, that in order to understand the example, you are
already required to have a knowledge of the language.
I can only use myself as a example. Only started to really use
D a few days ago because i have a specific project.
On Tuesday, 18 October 2016 at 09:26:56 UTC, Chris wrote:
I think the point of the examples is to show D at its most
expressive/concise. The thing is that if you presented "Hello,
world!" a lot of people who come from other languages would
complain about how D doesn't seem to have chaining, map
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 at 19:06:26 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
I assume the purpose for those demonstrations are to win the
interest of the user as to how easy and clean D code can be.
Then why;
// Round floating point numbers
import std.algorithm, std.conv, std.functional,
std.math, std.re
On Monday, 17 October 2016 at 19:39:14 UTC, Benjiro wrote:
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 at 19:06:26 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
How is a new visitor supposed to know "!" is for templates and
not some complicated syntax?
As a dlang newbie ( only started to learn a few days ago ), the
example on the f
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 at 12:14:34 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote:
On Friday, 14 October 2016 at 21:18:45 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
The "!" is more trouble than good (IMO for the majority).
@Adam Roupe did a talk at previous DConf which he testifies to
this.
Couldn't be me, I don't think I ever tal
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 at 19:06:26 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
How is a new visitor supposed to know "!" is for templates and
not some complicated syntax?
As a dlang newbie ( only started to learn a few days ago ), the
example on the front page is just complex for new users.
Its not a lack of
On Sunday, 16 October 2016 at 16:07:19 UTC, Nick Treleaven wrote:
// Chain functions together to round a string parsed as a real
number
alias roundString = pipe!(to!real, std.math.round, to!string);
In fact if we're just printing the rounded numbers, we can drop
to!string and inline roundStri
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 at 19:06:26 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
// Replace anything that looks like a real
// number with the rounded equivalent.
stdin
.byLine
.map!(l => l.replaceAll!(c => c.hit.round)
(reFloatingPoint))
.each!wri
On Friday, 14 October 2016 at 21:18:45 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
The "!" is more trouble than good (IMO for the majority).
@Adam Roupe did a talk at previous DConf which he testifies to
this.
Couldn't be me, I don't think I ever talked about it... and I'm
actually pro-!. It is a perfectly fine sy
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 at 22:12:42 UTC, Guillaume Piolat
wrote:
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 at 19:06:26 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
I agree, something friendly and familiar would be called for.
Instead we have weird float-rounding programs.
The goal of such program should be to push the read
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 at 19:06:26 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
I assume the purpose for those demonstrations are to win the
interest of the user as to how easy and clean D code can be.
Then why;
// Round floating point numbers
import std.algorithm, std.conv, std.functional,
std.math, std.re
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 at 19:06:26 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
I assume the purpose for those demonstrations are to win the
interest of the user as to how easy and clean D code can be.
Then why;
// Round floating point numbers
import std.algorithm, std.conv, std.functional,
std.math, std.re
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 at 19:30:30 UTC, Meta wrote:
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 at 19:06:26 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
How's a new user supposed to know <> is for templates when
looking at a C++ example? They don't; it's just something that
has to be learned, ...
Does that make it a standa
On Thursday, 13 October 2016 at 19:06:26 UTC, Karabuta wrote:
I assume the purpose for those demonstrations are to win the
interest of the user as to how easy and clean D code can be.
Then why;
// Round floating point numbers
import std.algorithm, std.conv, std.functional,
std.math, std.re
I assume the purpose for those demonstrations are to win the
interest of the user as to how easy and clean D code can be. Then
why;
// Round floating point numbers
import std.algorithm, std.conv, std.functional,
std.math, std.regex, std.stdio;
alias round = pipe!(to!real, std.math.round, t
43 matches
Mail list logo
