With what they know today, do you really think eBay would make the same
investment again?
So now all MA has to be done under 20/20 vision? Some business decisions go
south. Imagine that!
As I have said many times already, we're not discussing the shrewdness or
gullibility of the acquirer, but
yeah.. I was thinking the same thing, and, in fact -- just to be sure
I wasn't having a Sarah Palin moment -- forwarded the statement to
someone who orchestrates such deals between the facebooks and the
googles of the world, and he said, That doesn't make sense, and what
it's trying to
Apparently, not a disciple of Webster.
Maybe, Maybe not, the English language has crumbled so much that many
definitions have been lost. I'll explain.
Absolve- You simply think it's forgiveness or remission of sin.
The word actually means: To declare ownership.
Long, long ago, not in a galaxy
There's ScrnShots too [http://www.scrnshots.com/] which is a catalogue
of tagged screenshots by and for designers. They even provide a
special program to make taking and uploading screenshots as painless
as possible.
T.
Welcome to
Nowadays, people assume absolve means being 'forgiven', but it
actually doesnt.
And by people, you meant every dictionary. http://tinyurl.com/3kggqo
Ok. Let's say absolve means to own in your galaxy. I still have no
idea what you're talking about.
Jared
On Sep 24, 2008, at 5:41 AM,
I think my recommendation is going to be a weak-medium-strong entropy
indicator that takes dictionary words into account
I was user testing a sign-up form that included a password strength
indicator recently. It had three states Too Short (which prevented
users from submitting the form), Weak
On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:09 PM, Kontra wrote:
With what they know today, do you really think eBay would make the
same
investment again?
So now all MA has to be done under 20/20 vision? Some business
decisions go
south. Imagine that!
Ok. So where is Facebook going? Is it purely a flip
Here is a question for you all.
I am exploring ways of using task flow diagrams as a means of conveying, in
an abstract manner, a recursive and interative user task flow that is not
linear - meaning the user is presented with a screen/canvas where their are
n number of dimensions/facets with
Jared,
Everything's OK so long as the music's still playing.
2008/9/24 Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:09 PM, Kontra wrote:
With what they know today, do you really think eBay would make the same
investment again?
So now all MA has to be done under 20/20 vision?
Has anyone else read Amy Shuen's Web 2.0: A Strategy Guide and her
discussion about Facebook and the the monetization of user generated value
streams on social networks? For those interested - it does provide a good
understanding about exactly why MS payed what they did for Facebook.
On Wed, Sep
On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:47 AM, Will Evans wrote:
Has anyone else read Amy Shuen's Web 2.0: A Strategy Guide and her
discussion about Facebook and the the monetization of user generated
value streams on social networks? For those interested - it does
provide a good understanding about
No - I agree that even while having read Shuen's book and understanding her
economic model around user generated value streams - I agree that at least
for facebook, they haven't found the model by which they can actually turn
that value into cash flow - clearly, at least DaveM has stated - there
Interaction design is hard enough to do when the business model is
clear. When the designer knows exactly how making a better design will
increase the value of the company, (thereby increasing the chances
they'll get a raise if they do a good job,) it's still hard to know
what to do.
All
What the hell is it? I can't even work out what it's about - presumably more
than sponsoring bears
In answer to your question though, I have no idea, sorry!
- Original Message
From: Catriona Lohan-Conway [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ixda list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 24
I'd use a prototype.
With a task flow, you'd need to illustrate a series of trees and loops.
On Sep 24, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Will Evans wrote:
How would you do it?
Cheers!
Todd Zaki Warfel
President, Design Researcher
Messagefirst | Designing Information. Beautifully.
I think it is a very clever way to encourage efficient use of resources like
electricity, water etc using the polar bear and the poles melting metaphor
as an example of what will happen if we don't start taking care of the
planet. i think the animation is fantastic and the whole idea is very good.
ok.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nowadays, people assume absolve means being 'forgiven', but it actually
doesnt.
And by people, you meant every dictionary. http://tinyurl.com/3kggqo
Ok. Let's say absolve means to own in your galaxy. I still have
Well, yeah (you are the prototype guy!) - but within the constraints of a
diagram, i was wondering if anyone explored and abstract visual vocabulary
for communicating recursive iteration. No prototyping allowed! :-)
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:34 AM, Todd Zaki Warfel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I'd
I didn't find it obvious at all. So thank you!
-- dave
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Posted from the new ixda.org
http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33433
Welcome to the Interaction Design
An approach I've been using is sort of a bastardized version of page
description diagrams explained by
Dan Brown here:
http://www.boxesandarrows.com/view/where_the_wireframes_are_special_deliverable_3
with some elaboration here:
Will,
If I were in this situation, I would probably be using something like
a UML activity flow diagram, a collaboration diagram, or JJG's IA
vocabulary.
In the past, when I ran into similar problems (recursion, parallelism,
multiple paths, etc.) I usually found that my confusion was based upon
Precisely.
Just as important, if you as the designer disagree with the business
model, then you should consider switching jobs or companies. I can't
tell you how many times I watch designers argue with business folk
over what the user wants as if what the user wants always trumps the
When I see my team falling into this trap, I reference the design of
seats at fast food restaurants. They are designed to only be
comfortable for a short time, they want to get you out as fast as
possible, but not so bad that you will not come back.
I have no problem calling it user-centered
This comes at a particularly apt time in my career, as I'm the
CTO/lead designer for PrepChamps.com, a startup company intended to
help high school athletes get recruited into college. In such a
respected crowd as IXDA, I won't pretend it's my best design work,
but just wanted to provide context
Earlier this year I had exactly the same problem (involving repeated
browsing and posting on an interactive map) and corresponded with Dan
Brown about it. The long and short of it was that I demonstrated this
using clusters of 'pages' linked by a circular arrow to show
'within page' recursion. A
On Sep 24, 2008, at 8:52 AM, Nicholas Iozzo wrote:
I have no problem calling it user-centered design if we are designing
something to be uncomfortable after 15 minutes.
But can you at least see the ridiculousness of the statement itself?
The contorted logic to make the thought work? It's a
I must've missed those tests. The most recent one I found was an
exhaustive one that James Kalbach did in the early 2000s. His research
showed no measureable improvement in usability with a right-hand nav,
despite the hypothesis that proximity to the scroll bar and right-
handedness might
Designers need to understand the business model to create effective
designs. Right on. Completely agree.
However, embedded in Jared's original post are two ideas that are a
frequent source of fun.
1. The business model is clear.
2. We can show that investment in the user experience adds value to
This is actually an issue I've been grappling with as it is deeply
relevant to our industry.
A lot of our work these days is done for companies basing their business
plans on social networking and community building sites. This may be a
small slice of the work available to IxD people, but it is a
Adamya,
I am in that very position right now. I have been asked to come on board an
agile project where the system is exceptionally convoluted and I am denied
the privilege of training for the purposes of understanding the system.
The justification behind this is that the BAs want a 'fresh pair of
Closely related to this thread (and terminology), there is a posting by Jess
McMullin on Boxes and Arrows reinforcing the necessity of balancing the value
exchange between the business sponsor of an application and its end users:
There's advertising in Microsoft Office Accounting (the free
version). I don't know what (if any) research they either did or
published on that.
As a user of the application, do I find it intrusive? Yes. Do I
accept it? Yes, because I'm getting something that I would normally
expect to have to
We are working with a client on a product with multiple data views and
one is this sort of semi-tabular one, but we're having a hard time
finding past references or conventions around labeling this view. One
example of this is a search result view from LinkedIn -
Sorry if I'm rehashing a conversation here, but to my surprise I
haven't seen any G1 debates coming up here from the release this week.
So I'll startOh my...what a mess. I really enjoy gizmodo's write up
but to my surprise I haven't seen any G1 debates coming up here from the
release this week.
I think, for me at least - there is no way to debate or discuss something we
haven't played with yet. IxD kinda depends on the ability to interact, and
since I haven't, I won't comment.
--
~ will
Where
I think my read on the lack of conversation on G1 here is that I
don't know a single soul who bought it or cared about it. It is a
non-issue in this community. I think the only people talking about it
are developers, and even then I'm not hearing a heck of a lot about
it.
From HTC's ugly retro
On Sep 24, 2008, at 9:10 AM, Peter Knocke wrote:
The interface is really disconnected, inconsistent, and almost has an
amateur quality to it. (not the good kind) It not only boggles my
mind they they would release something so disconnected, but that so
many people are so excited for it. If
Ok. So where is Facebook going?
The same place where lots of people (including VCs who couldn't be bothered
with doing decent diligence then) looked at Google a few years ago and
likely said, bleh, it's just another search engine, is there some semblance
of a value statement they can talk to?
Thank you gentlemen, (adamya for your private message)
I definitely going to run with your ideas. It's good to know others can
relate to me on this.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:03 PM, luke ryerson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was actually in a very similar situation like the one you described. My
Hi everyone,
When it comes to IxDA as of Feb '08. I'm a nobody. I have no access to
anything technical or official in any capacity what so ever. Sending me all
your But my message didn't go through don't help either of us. It fills my
inbox unnecessarily, and your requests get delayed.
so if you
Coming in from an old post...
I find that most sites that have Helvetica as their main font to be
really hard to read. I have Helvetica on my machine, but it really
doesn't seem to translate to web well, especially at smaller font sizes?
Does anyone else see this?
Marty DeAngelo
-Original
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 07:23:51 -0400, Jared wrote:
Interaction design is hard enough to do when the business model is
clear. When the designer knows exactly how making a better design will
increase the value of the company, (thereby increasing the chances
they'll get a raise if they do a good
On Sep 24, 2008, at 5:03 PM, Kontra wrote:
Google extracts value out of mining network effects (PageRank) which
is
increasingly the primary source of revenue for smart companies.
FaceBook has
in just a few years managed to create the largest social network. If
you
don't think that's going
You can take the admin rights out of the boy, but you can't take the
boy out of the admin role...
On Sep 24, 2008, at 5:40 PM, David Malouf wrote:
Hi everyone,
When it comes to IxDA as of Feb '08. I'm a nobody. I have no access to
anything technical or official in any capacity what so
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 06:47:11 -0400, Will wrote:
Has anyone else read Amy Shuen's Web 2.0: A Strategy Guide and her
discussion about Facebook and the the monetization of user generated value
streams on social networks? For those interested - it does provide a good
understanding about exactly why
On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Catriona Lohan-Conway wrote:
http://www.nationalgridfloe.com/
Anyone know who did it? LBI London?
Looks like Mullen here in the states.
http://adsoftheworld.com/media/online/national_grid_floe
Jared
Er...can we add these 2 e-mails standard footer that gets appended to
each post? I know as one of the culprits :-) Or, do we think that can
generate too many e-mails?
On 9/24/08, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can take the admin rights out of the boy, but you can't take the boy out
of
I notice that the adsoftheworld.com site uses next on the left, and
previous on the right for navigating their thumbnails.
I didn't get it.
*ducking*
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Jared Spool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sep 23, 2008, at 10:47 PM, Catriona Lohan-Conway wrote:
??
I see First | Previous 1 2 3 ... Next Last
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Shaun Bergmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
I notice that the adsoftheworld.com site uses next on the left, and
previous on the right for navigating their thumbnails.
I didn't get it.
*ducking*
On Wed, Sep 24,
, I see what you mean - I was looking at the wrong place.
Yeah. Not good. Not good at all, but then again - they don't have an About
Us section, so they are not legit. These are not the droids you are looking
for.
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Will Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
??
I
Sorry, didn't mean to highjack this thread. I just got side tracked by the
navigational example that popped up.
The navigation is actually quite broken. Next goes to the previous page,
and Previous goes to the next page.
As you were.
Shaun
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:07 PM, Will Evans [EMAIL
A fresh example of the placement of the next and previous buttons (left or
right) would be on the Ads of the World site that came up under a different
thread.
http://adsoftheworld.com/media/online/national_grid_floe
If they were tracking THIS users' mouse, they would have watched my falter,
as I
I have been saying that Google is an non-design organization for
years. Thanx Andrei!!! 8-)
G-d Damn It we agree again! Is this becoming a habit?
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Posted from the new ixda.org
http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33456
It used to be there, but then people complained about an already too
long footer. There is a link to the web site in there. :)
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Posted from the new ixda.org
http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33462
Like anything Googely, it is going to be beta until it can either be
declared a success, or fade away.
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Posted from the new ixda.org
http://www.ixda.org/discuss?post=33456
Hey! BW just posted this diddy on the G1 Design process. :)
http://www.businessweek.com/innovate/next/archives/2008/09/inside_googles.html?campaign_id=rss_innovate
-- dave
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Posted from the new ixda.org
One caveat is that the prevalence of wide screens will have an impact
on stuff on the right. Most of our work is fixed width and so we
haven't heard anything yet. It will be interesting to hear from folks
who may have...?
-Adamya
Originally my app Cashboard had a flexible width layout. I
On Sep 24, 2008, at 5:36 PM, David Malouf wrote:
I have been saying that Google is an non-design organization for
years. Thanx Andrei!!! 8-)
G-d Damn It we agree again! Is this becoming a habit?
We won't truly agree on much of the larger picture until you change
your stance that
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 2:22 PM, David Malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think my read on the lack of conversation on G1 here is that I
don't know a single soul who bought it or cared about it. It is a
non-issue in this community. I think the only people talking about it
are developers, and
Oh this is so ripe ... Please .. Holidays are only a week away...
will evans
emotive architect
hedonic designer
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Sent via iPhone
On Sep 25, 2008, at 12:15 AM,
The iPhone horn doesn't need any more tooting, but this really
reflects how great the apple team is with UI development and how bad
others are.
What does everyone else think?
No comments on the Android platform UI, but what I've seen I've liked.
Physically, I find the iPhone lacking because
Chrome ( until now ) maybe good an example of bad design based on
short using experience. but it's hard to say about G1 until now.
Cheers,
-- Jarod
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:05 AM, David Malouf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey! BW just posted this diddy on the G1 Design process. :)
It also depends on what the competition is doing. If there was another free
accounting app with similar capabilities but that did not contain
advertising, would MS still put ads in their app?
An example: Opera used to make two versions of their browser -- a paid
version without ads and a free
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