The following was posted on the Roku site in reply by a request by a
user who wants the same sort of facility - any sound on PC to be
broadcast as a stream. I haven't tried it.
There are 3rd party programs you can use to accomplish what you want
with the soundbridge. These programs allow
Marc Sherman wrote:
MrSinatra wrote:
forgive me for being thick, but how does one take the massive SS pgm and
make it into a vxd? i thought someone would have to write a vxd based
on portions of the SS source code, to make a far smaller file.
You would write a vxd that communicated directly
Peter wrote:
I'm not so sure the delays introduced by streaming buffering the sound
to the SB wouldn't create annoying problems with sound/image
synchronisation. It would be great if this worked, but it might not be
feasible.
Oh, I'm sure it would create annoying problems with synch. To
I think the DVD problem can be handled by mplayer without the need for a
VxD. However it would need a plugin to control it.
Mplayer can play DVDs although its handling of DVD menus is not great.
The important feature of mplayer is that you can adjust the sync between
video and audio - forward
Marc Sherman;174113 Wrote:
Peter wrote:
I'm not so sure the delays introduced by streaming buffering the
sound
to the SB wouldn't create annoying problems with sound/image
synchronisation. It would be great if this worked, but it might not
be
feasible.
Oh, I'm sure it would
Marc Sherman;173843 Wrote:
Or FLAC. You certainly wouldn't want to stream uncompressed WAV to the
squeezebox, it would trash your network.
I stream uncompressed WAV over my WLAN and it works just fine. I don't
even notice it. (But then I don't do time critical things like gaming
on the
P Floding wrote:
I stream uncompressed WAV over my WLAN and it works just fine. I don't
even notice it. (But then I don't do time critical things like gaming
on the WLAN.)
Anyway, FLAC's compression ratio is only about 1:2.
I should point out that I've only got an SB1, and I sure don't
Marc Sherman;174256 Wrote:
P Floding wrote:
I stream uncompressed WAV over my WLAN and it works just fine. I
don't
even notice it. (But then I don't do time critical things like
gaming
on the WLAN.)
Anyway, FLAC's compression ratio is only about 1:2.
I should point out that
On 23/01/07, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
bergek wrote:
brunodenis;173329 Wrote:
That would be a great idea. We already have Moose and SlimRemote, but
they're hardly full featured or easy to use/install. Hint: Have a look
at http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php guys. It's not that hard to
Dr Lovegrove,
In my previous posts, I was talking about integrating harmony3 like
features to Moose, not the automatic download. Moose has access to SS
or the folder's structure if I remember well, it could therefore
generate another display mode using the Harmony3 DLLs (if we could get
the
brunodenis;173421 Wrote:
I partitaly agree. but softawre companies must answer all the needs from
lots of different users. that's why they cover so much and some of us
want some, others want other. This leads to your swiss knife.
No, IMHO they must not and they should not. This mostly results
On 24/01/07, brunodenis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In my previous posts, I was talking about integrating harmony3 like
features to Moose, not the automatic download. Moose has access to SS
or the folder's structure if I remember well, it could therefore
generate another display mode using the
servies;173635 Wrote:
No, IMHO they must not and they should not. This mostly results in an
application which does its several jobs in a very mediocre way, in
stead of its one job superb...
Par example IMHO iTunes doesn't even get near the quality of EAC
considering CD ripping...,
And
servies wrote:
I don't know. I'm not sure if there's enough memory in the squeezebox
to be able to fully implement the iTunes protocol next to the
slimserver protocol, and then there are still the license issues... and
the problem of a protocol over which you have absolutely no control.
brunodenis;173650 Wrote:
Again, you misunderstand me. I am not saying that software companies
HAVE TO do that swiss knife but they are trying in order to satisfy
users (average joes who may be reluctant to install multiple soft on
their machine and who do not spent lots of time on forums to
That's why a sound device driver that talks directly to the squeezebox
could be a better option. It can't be that hard to write a device driver
that streams audio to a squeezebox, but it would be a nice extra to have.
We all know everything is really easy, if you know it. But unfortunately
Peter wrote:
That's why a sound device driver that talks directly to the squeezebox
could be a better option. It can't be that hard to write a device driver
that streams audio to a squeezebox, but it would be a nice extra to have.
The slim protocol is documented on the wiki. Go right ahead!
servies;173659 Wrote:
Ah, probably the misunderstanding is caused by both being not native
English speakers, I was under the impression you were in favour of
this...
Let me assure you that there can be a major difference in the resulting
rip by the different CD ripping programs. The
brunodenis;173666 Wrote:
As far as itunes does not comply with flac, as far as SS can use itunes
library but cannot rip CDs. Your advise would then to rip CDs with EAC
in maniac mode and then encode them in apple lossless so that
soundfiles are compliant with both.
I'm not quite sure if
brunodenis;173666 Wrote:
Is there a huge difference between Applelossless, flac or any other
lossless codec ?
This one has been discussed before.
1) Lossless is lossless, so the bits are the same when they are
decompressed.
2) They can differ in terms of how much compression they achieve,
Marc Sherman wrote:
Peter wrote:
That's why a sound device driver that talks directly to the
squeezebox could be a better option. It can't be that hard to write a
device driver that streams audio to a squeezebox, but it would be a
nice extra to have.
The slim protocol is documented on the
Peter;173227 Wrote:
I suppose it wouldn't be a very difficult task to create SB3 firmware
that behaves as an airport express, so why don't you get some others to
join you and write it?
I'm guessing it would be rather difficult 'considering the FW is closed
source'
morberg wrote:
Peter;173227 Wrote:
I suppose it wouldn't be a very difficult task to create SB3 firmware
that behaves as an airport express, so why don't you get some others to
join you and write it?
I'm guessing it would be rather difficult 'considering the FW is closed
source'
The iTunes protocol is proprietary and needs to be licensed from Apple.
Roku got a licence for the own branded devices but when Pinnacle
started selling their version of Roku products, Apple refused Pinnacle
a licence. So Roku had to adopt a server mt-daapd and then developed a
proprietary
is there a reason why we can't have both?
why can't there be a virtual device driver to power the SB so that any
app on your computer could power it?
it would really be great for those of us who find the SD way annoying
to frustrating to awful.
not to mention a great workaround for the
MrSinatra;173824 Wrote:
is there a reason why we can't have both?
why can't there be a virtual device driver to power the SB so that any
app on your computer could power it?
No reason at all you can't. All you would need is a shoutcast server
that acted as a VXD on Windows.
The only
forgive me for being thick, but how does one take the massive SS pgm and
make it into a vxd? i thought someone would have to write a vxd based
on portions of the SS source code, to make a far smaller file.
if its as easy as you make it sound, i think a lot of cranks (like me)
on here may find
MrSinatra wrote:
forgive me for being thick, but how does one take the massive SS pgm and
make it into a vxd? i thought someone would have to write a vxd based
on portions of the SS source code, to make a far smaller file.
You would write a vxd that communicated directly with the squeezebox
MrSinatra;173840 Wrote:
forgive me for being thick, but how does one take the massive SS pgm and
make it into a vxd? i thought someone would have to write a vxd based
on portions of the SS source code, to make a far smaller file.
No reason to: just a VXD that appears to Windows applications
IIRC last year somebody added a soundcard to their PC and looped a cable
from speaker out into the line in and then created an MP3 stream from
the line-in. The MP3 was then fed to slimserver using something like
Shoutcast.
This can be done today with no s/w development and small h/w costs.
--
bpa;173857 Wrote:
IIRC last year somebody added a soundcard to their PC and looped a cable
from speaker out into the line in and then created an MP3 stream from
the line-in. The MP3 was then fed to slimserver using something like
Shoutcast.
This can be done today with no s/w development
meltsheep;172223 Wrote:
Because it is sonically inferior to Squeezebox to the point where its
painful to listen to . There's a technical explanation somewhere on the
Stereophile website as to why SB is so much better.
Sorry, first post but seems to be totally wrong. Check info about LA
brunodenis wrote:
meltsheep;172223 Wrote:
Because it is sonically inferior to Squeezebox to the point where its
painful to listen to . There's a technical explanation somewhere on the
Stereophile website as to why SB is so much better.
Sorry, first post but seems to be totally wrong.
I sense anger in you padawan
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brunodenis;173205 Wrote:
Sorry, first post but seems to be totally wrong. Check info about LA
Rosita (Apertura) [image: http://images.cinenow.com/a/1/966.jpg] which
is based on airport express. It is apparently far beyond SB3 due to its
conception.
I doubt it...
Currently considering
servies;173258 Wrote:
I doubt it...
This anyway has to be compared and validated, i agree.
No problem around here. But then I don't use an inferior application as
iTunes to rip my music and I use other applications to (re)tag my music
if they're missing or incomplete.
I try to use the
brunodenis;173273 Wrote:
I do not see your point as your server might be in another room if you
use such a device I was talking about.
That only shows that you really don't get it.
The AAE is (roughly seen) just a cable between your computers audio
outputs and your HIFI's inputs. It has no
servies;173285 Wrote:
That only shows that you really don't get it.
The AAE is (roughly seen) just a cable between your computers audio
outputs and your HIFI's inputs. It has no control over the iTunes
application, therefore I need the computer on which iTunes is running
to be within
brunodenis;173329 Wrote:
I am not a apple fan but I love the coverflow feature. I wish it could
be integrated into SS but repsonse times would be even slower.
Dito on the Apple fan part. You are not alone at thinking that the web
gui is awfully slow and not really that fancy looking. At the
bergek;173335 Wrote:
People want coverflow.
FWIW, use the Touch skin and select 1-by-1 Artwork from the main
page. This coverflow-like feature will be further enhanced in 7.0.
I doubt this will appease the why can't slimserver do things exactly
like I think it should crowd, but this is at
bklass,
Have you heard about harmony3 from thirteen23.com(.net3 coverflow
equivalent) ?
Do you think such kind of feature might be integrated into a skin or
plugin or whatever tweak to develop ?
--
brunodenis
bergek;173335 Wrote:
I wish that SS would be more layered (i.e. core functions separated from
the web gui). To overcome the slowness of the web gui, I have been
thinking about making a very simple client application (or even a new
web application) to quickly be able to browse my collection
As well, thinking about iphone's abilities to drive itunes might be fun
and easy integration.
talking back about La Rosita (Apertura), I haven(t heard the product
yet but will report as soon as I have been able to compare.
--
brunodenis
bergek wrote:
brunodenis;173329 Wrote:
I am not a apple fan but I love the coverflow feature. I wish it could
be integrated into SS but repsonse times would be even slower.
Dito on the Apple fan part. You are not alone at thinking that the web
gui is awfully slow and not really that
brunodenis;173349 Wrote:
bklass,
Have you heard about harmony3 from thirteen23.com(.net3 coverflow
equivalent) ?
Do you think such kind of feature might be integrated into a skin or
plugin or whatever tweak to develop ?
In short, no.
Just looked at it. Interesting, but it's basically a
bklaas;173356 Wrote:
In short, no.
Just looked at it. Interesting, but it's basically a coverflow
knock-off designed for use only in Windows Vista. That doesn't fit into
the slimserver architecture in any way that I can see.
They use Amazon's search API to auto-download cover art and
bergek;173335 Wrote:
At the same time I am a firm believer in having a home server which is
on 24/7 and not requiring your desktop computer to be on just to play
some music.
Run that by me again?
You're a firm believer in having a home server which is on 24/7. Which
can be a desktop
Are people really having trouble with Slimserver keeping up with 500
albums? Seems that there would a problem Other than Slimserver to cause
that. I have 14,000 songs that Slimserver can access and it never has
a problem. The only slowness I ever see is when I initially browse my
music via
brucegrr;173411 Wrote:
I think Nero is a good example. Their recent release has everything but
the kitchen sink (and it is in there somewhere I suspect)IMO the
program is bloated and the extras they have crammed into the program
are not as good as separate programs that can be bought
I partitaly agree. but softawre companies must answer all the needs from
lots of different users. that's why they cover so much and some of us
want some, others want other. This leads to your swiss knife.
To some up only for my personnal case, pushing music from server
(itunes for its graphical
Mark Lanctot;173390 Wrote:
Run that by me again?
I must have misunderstood.
The home server is quite different from a desktop computer.
In my world a desktop computer at home is the computer most people
would see as the computer. I don't know about you but I have yet to
experience a
bergek;173422 Wrote:
The home server is quite different from a desktop computer.
In my world a desktop computer at home is the computer most people
would see as the computer. I don't know about you but I have yet to
experience a desktop computer with a performance that I can live with
Hello,
I'm still pondering my purchase.
I have loaded SlimServer onto my Desktop Computer (upstairs) and loaded
SoftSqueeze onto my wireless laptop. I think this gives me a reasonable
idea of what I would be buying in to.
So far, I really like it, but I do agree that the process of ripping a
Studio_Two wrote:
I'm still pondering my purchase.
I have loaded SlimServer onto my Desktop Computer (upstairs) and loaded
SoftSqueeze onto my wireless laptop. I think this gives me a reasonable
idea of what I would be buying in to.
So far, I really like it, but I do agree that the process of
meltsheep;172247 Wrote:
I rate iTunes very highly as software, its only serious flaw being a
lack of a plugin API (ergo, you can;t play native flac in iTunes).
Maybe my real issue is that I'd be happy to keep all my music in iTunes
except that right now its flac. The Slim server
Peter;172884 Wrote:
I don't need Acrobat Writer in order to view documents. I don't need a
CD burner to play CD's.
Your choice of ripping software may not be the smartest. EAC/Lame/flac.
Get something else instead, I think a lot of people use dbPowerAmp (I
haven't used it).
Slimserver
DBPowerAmp, especially version 12, is very good but not perfect. I use
it to RIP to Flac but I then use MP3Tag to structure the tags the way I
want things.
Slimserver to my mind is dedicated to providing content to the
Squeezebox (mainly music but also text information). This moves away
from
meltsheep;172218 Wrote:
I'm going to stick my neck out here ! Slimserver is a poor man's
solution to digital music management. The model is wrong and it won't
last. Why can't I rip CDs and play them via Squeezebox with one
application.
Why doesn't my computer make my breakfast? The program
Peter;172220 Wrote:
That would be a nice option on the side, but I can live without it.
Why don't you just buy an Airport Express in the mean time?
Because it is sonically inferior to Squeezebox to the point where its
painful to listen to . There's a technical explanation somewhere on
ModelCitizen wrote:
meltsheep;172218 Wrote:
I'm going to stick my neck out here ! Slimserver is a poor man's
solution to digital music management. The model is wrong and it won't
last. Why can't I rip CDs and play them via Squeezebox with one
application.
Why doesn't my computer make
meltsheep wrote:
Peter;172220 Wrote:
That would be a nice option on the side, but I can live without it.
Why don't you just buy an Airport Express in the mean time?
Because it is sonically inferior to Squeezebox to the point where its
painful to listen to . There's a technical
Peter;172220 Wrote:
meltsheep wrote:
I'm going to stick my neck out here ! Slimserver is a poor man's
*yawn*
Oik. A shame you can't be bothered to respond politely.
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meltsheep;172226 Wrote:
Sorry the 'read only' thing isn't clear. I mean I have to organise and
tag my music collection outside of slimserver. Slimserver simply
provides a read-only view of your music collection. You can't edit
anything. The content is immutable within slimserver.As it
Peter;172230 Wrote:
meltsheep wrote:
Peter;172220 Wrote:
That would be a nice option on the side, but I can live without it.
Why don't you just buy an Airport Express in the mean time?
Because it is sonically inferior to Squeezebox to the point where
its
painful to
ModelCitizen;172233 Wrote:
If you are playing music on your PC then why have a Squeezebox? Why not
just use iTunes? My point is that ripping/tagging and listening are
generally in two different physical locations so there is no need for a
program to service both requirements.
Also you
Peter,
The home server is probably the next big thing in computing for Joe
public. As homes become more digital it makes sense to have a central
controller and repository.
I started off with a NAS device with Slimserver bundled into it. It
changed the way I listened to music and I suffer now
The content is immutable within slimserver.
As it should be, IMO. The Slimserver's job is to get the music to
the Squeezebox. It should not ever alter the music library in any
way. This has actually been discussed in the past, and although some
people disagree, I believe the majority felt
I suffer now loss in quality through playing it through a Squeezebox.
Why suffer a loss in quality? Uncompressed audio played via the
Squeezebox should be exceptionally good, and better through the
Transporter. Or to your ears was your CD transport better than than
the Squeezebox and
If you bought a nice sports-car and the auto company later went to your
house and took it away, leaving you an SUV instead, because they retain
the right to change the car after the purchase, you'd be very angry.
Then if you couldn't drive that car on just any road, but had to use
the toll-roads
U
(If the now was a typo and it was
supposed to be no then please ignore this paragraph. Thanks.)
It was. Now corrected.
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Remote storage
meltsheep wrote:
I don't want a music jukebox.
You probably shouldn't have bought one, then.
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meltsheep;172247 Wrote:
I play music from my PC to my hifi via a DAC. I've got a very good hifi
(Pathos amp etc) that's in the same room as my desktop. I've got a
laptop that I would use if I wanted to move my desktop to another room.
I rate iTunes very highly as software, its only serious
meltsheep, I dont like the idea of SlimServer either, and only listen
to internet radio. Theres an online service called Oboe that will
store all your music, and can be accessed from any computer. I
recommended to SlimDevices that they partner with this company, so that
our personal music
The Oboe service is part of MP3tunes. There have apparently been some
discussions between SD MP3tunes (search the forum for previous
threads). No idea what the current status is. Personally, I don't see
the point of streaming my own collection over the internet when I have
it on a hard disk on
Nauticus,
My NAS is a 300GB hard drive (QNAP TS-101) that holds all my data
including my music CDs ripped as Flac. It is connected into my home
network through CAT5 cable to a Netgear wireless bridge.
The Mini-ITX server is a VIA EN 1.5GHz, 1GB RAM box running Windows
2003 (it could be any OS
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