[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Thoughts: I don't blame anyone for cashing in. They've worked hard and deserve to be rewarded. But only $20 million for the world's leading player in a rapidly emerging field? Where are the guys who negotioted the YouTube deal when ya need 'em? Maybe Slim believed they would be steamrolled by the many mainstream offerings that will certainly emerge in this category. Better to *become* a mainstream offering, I guess. But I don't really think that the SB3 build quality needs improving and the current price is certainly reasonable. With Logitech's manufacturing, marketing, distribution, and the resulting economics of scale, there's no reason why the SB couldn't sell for $199 - but their SVP has already indicated that they don't want to crowd out their existing product at that price point, so I wouldn't look for any price improvement (and probably no $100 off 2 deals either)! And certainly no pony! The biggest thing this deal will accomplish is to put Squeezeboxes on the shelves of major retailers and multiply the customer base. Make room in the Beginners forum for a flood of new users. But I fear the soul of Slim Devices will be lost. This company was a huge anomaly in a world of bean counters and bottom-lines. They tirelessly worked to add value to every device, even years after it was sold. Can that continue in a large corporate environment? When less than 1% of their customers use Linux, will they be abandoned? Will Logitech cave to RIAA pressure and decide that MP3 *is* a crime? We shall see. It's not all gloom and doom, though. I'm pretty sure we'll see a lot of the stuff we've been asking for - better remotes, maybe a boombox, slicker interfaces, etc. Nothing stays the same. We'll take the good with the bad. And someday when there's a SB7 in every home, that garage-built SliMP3 player will bring me $4000 on eBay. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Most people dont like the idea of a small independant company with a good track record being taken over by a large multi-national; always fearing (often rightly) that product quality, support takes a nose dive. This may happen even now - we can hope not and that certainly over the next year or so hope that the support / intervention in the design process is not too severe. In the long run it would be good to have devices which can be modified using a relatively open hardware platform - and that Slim-Logitech-Devices allow this to occur. One possability would be to use modular designs - if they downgrade the DAQ chip / circuit then use a standard layout so that others can easily interchange the circuit - e.g. something like a small mini-pci type / memory connector to bridge to a new board. Similarly I would hope SLD were open to listing basic product specifications. Often it is the user community which can find, spot and possibly fix a bug / fault before a large corporate group can. Perhaps there could be a mass market for a SB-Lite; SB-Pro; Transporter. In the meantime I hope that the SB / Transporter range continues unchanged and reliable. -- roamingstudio roamingstudio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6923 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
SteveEast;147456 Wrote: So I bought a Harmony remote and Logitech bought Harmony. Then I buy a Slim Devices SB and Logitech buy SD. OK, I'm gonna buy a wood chipper this weekend - let's see Logitech buy Yard Machines. Steve. Got up this morn and had to do a doubletake, as I ordered an 885 remote on Tuesday! Spooky. R -- Robster So much music, so little time.. - http://www.myspace.com/hifinut Robster's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2129 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
And to think that I just bought a Logitech 880 last week to enhance my SB experience I've used Logitech mice for years - they are great products. Sorry, but I just can't get enthused about Logitech high-end audio gear. Don't get me wrong, I'm always Mr Glass Half Full Optimist - I just hate to think that something will have to be sacrificed in order to gain mass-market appeal, be it audio quality, build quality, etc. I'm sure with their economy of scale, Logitech can make the products cheaper - hopefully not make them cheap. I wish the Slim Devices crew all the best and hope that we can see some great new products coming soon. -- cashman cashman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2585 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Hi, What are the plans for continued linux support? Logitech doesn't appear to support use of it's devices under linux at all - is this set to change? Ed -- ehjones ehjones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5218 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Logitech to acquire Slim Devices
Sean, Dean and all at SD, Congratulations! I wish you all the best in this new relationship. I vividly remember your first year at MacWorld SF. Lots of enthusiasm in that booth! Had never heard of a SliMP3, but I bought one from Dean. Still have it of course and it is working well. The next year I got to chat with Dean again, met Patrick and bought the new SD remote. Last year another chance to speak to Dean and ended up with an SB3. I really like the design of the SB3. So, where will I find you guys this January? SlimDevices booth, or Logitech booth? Plze don't show me the Transporter! Not sure that my wallet can take the hit! -- Scott -- ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
ehjones;147587 Wrote: Hi, What are the plans for continued linux support? That is the plan. It is a small effort since our software is fundamentally platform independent anyway, and NAS support is also an important and growing part of our business. Oh, and SqueezeNetwork runs on Linux. :) Logitech doesn't appear to support use of it's devices under linux at all - is this set to change? Don't expect linux drivers for mice and keyboards to come from Slim, but yes, this does mean that one division of Logitech will be supporting Linux. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with version 6.5.1 10386
I have just un-installed SlimSever software and re-installed version 6.5.1 10386 2006-10-18, and I am still unable to access the web browser on my PC, and the scanning process fails after a few minutes !!! Is anybody else having problems with this particular version? I am running on Windows XP. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks -- norderney norderney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28828 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Congratulations, Sean team - I'm on my 4th SD device and have recommended to many others - only recently retired the SLiMP3 - together with my tivo, these are the best range of electronic devices that I've ever had the pleasure of owning, and hope the research and development continues to push the envelope. -- gocam gocam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=381 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Problems with version 6.5.1 10386
On 19-Oct-06, at 12:04 AM, norderney wrote: I have just un-installed SlimSever software and re-installed version 6.5.1 10386 2006-10-18, and I am still unable to access the web browser on my PC, and the scanning process fails after a few minutes !!! anything in the event viewer? not much anyone can do without something more specific. if there isn't anything, try running command-line with the service stopped: c:\program files\slimserver\server\slim.exe --d_scan --d_info --d_import let it scan and see if it stops on the same song each time, or if any errors come up when it crashes. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with version 6.5.1 10386
Is it possible to pick up a different Nightly update, perhaps from a couple of days ago to see if this makes any difference? -- norderney norderney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28828 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with version 6.5.1 10386
try http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/ -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28828 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
I think it was inevitable, a small company like SlimDevices wouldn't be able to compete as larger companies would have basically copied the SB and made it cheaper sooner rather than later. So an acquisition by Logitech, whereas everyone has concerns over small innovative company swallowed up by large corporation, it probably is the best way to keep SlimDevices products competitive. I wonder if the SB will be rebranded? The snob in me would rather have a SlimDevices product on my hifi rack than a Logitech. -- Seineseeker Seineseeker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4591 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
junien;147441 Wrote: Actually I am not sure I see a dicotomy between tech-led development and user-friendliness. In fact I was personally impressed about the ease of installation and of use of my Squeezebox. The user interface of the Slim Server could probably become more consumer oriented. Yet this is not a priority. I appreciate your answer, but you've kind of shown your hand there a bit - it's usually Sean who says what the priority is ;-) Apologies, I'm a bit too sharp sometimes, I'm sure that wasn't the meaning of your post! But it does raise a point, the UI is an issue for a lot of people. I suppose the answer is a fancy new remote - it's something I wanted, so I can't complain. I was referring to the fact that as a tech-led development, consideration for non-technical users can be a low priority (and I didn't say it is in this case) since it is a community driven development for that community of technical people. To get that 10x user base happy and contented, you're going to have to start making design and marketing decisions about the product and request that the community follow them. If I were Logitech and examining the complete cost base for extending the product market size, then support has to be measured and relying on the free time of enthusiasts isn't really going to cut the mustard. junien;147441 Wrote: We are much more interested in extending the current technology to new hardware products and new markets. With more users, the cracks in SlimServer will show more. I hope the community here is feeling up to the job. Believe me, once the average Joe gets hold of this and starts asking where he plugs it into his computer, this forum will get a taste of the future. junien;147441 Wrote: I also hope that the open source community will continue to be motivated in making the products stronger and more versatile. That depends - at the moment they are developing for a community of generally polite fellow enthusiasts who love the product because it is hackable. When that changes as SlimServer is used with numerous other products and the user base extends to 10 times what it is today and comments on the groups change from I'm having a few problems to the pos software won't work, that willingness to contribute may change. Hey, I'm probably wrong, but as I said I'm a cynical b*sta*d - unfortunately that's usually the correct stance when it comes to corporate life. I've watched and been involved in acquisitions several times. The usual timetable is that the founders leave as soon as the financial handcuffs come off (earn-outs, restricted stock selling etc.), key staff go somewhere else where the small compoany spirit still exists (or where there is equity to be had), the proposed new products get shelved (testing new price points == we'll kill it if it doesn't sell) and the original customers who enjoyed the kudos of owning the audiophile product go elsewhere. I'd buy a Slim Transporter, not sure I'd buy a Logitech one. Yes, that's dumb if it's the same product inside, but HiFi snobbery is a critical aspect of the market. -- CardinalFang You're only young once, but you can be immature forever... CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: FWD on Random Mix hiccups
At last some sanity! Will someone be posting this as a bug we can vote for? -- Heuer Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=20494 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: FWD on Random Mix hiccups
On 19-Oct-06, at 12:50 AM, Heuer wrote: At last some sanity! Will someone be posting this as a bug we can vote for? you sound like a volunteer to me. if you feel strongly, please do. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with version 6.5.1 10386
I went into Event Viewer and looked under System and found Warning WinDefend. Opening this up I get Windefend has detected spyware or other potentially unwanted software. Then it says Path Found service slimsvc:file c:\Program Files\Slimserver\server\slim.exe Alert type unknown. There is an error in Application as well. The description for EventID (0) in source (application) cannot be found. The local computer may not have the registry information or message DLL to display messages from a remote computer. You may be able to use the /AUXSOURCE=flagto retrieve this this description Also, Warning My SQL. Can't open or lock time zone table. Table mysql.time_zone_leap_second doesn't exist trying to live without them. Does any of the above point to a problem for me? I have downloaded version 6.5.1 from 2006-10-14 and this is also causing the same problems, so I am sure the problem is local to my PC and not the Slimserver software? Help would be appreciated because I currently can not use my Squeeze Box !! -- norderney norderney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28828 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Sean You mentioned NAS support - well it would seem a logical development to have a NAS branded device (even with the recent tie-ups). If you / logitech / infrant do end up on the NAS route please *please* PLEASE do not lock the system down and allow it to be configurable. Decent NAS blocks which are quiet, low power usage and slim (e.g. Synology / QNAP) are the ideal future - unless you manage to make a transporter clone with inbuilt copper pipes for passive HDD cooling. Now that would be nice! (it is also a mini project of mine). -- roamingstudio roamingstudio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6923 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Problems with version 6.5.1 10386
On 19-Oct-06, at 1:01 AM, norderney wrote: Help would be appreciated because I currently can not use my Squeeze Box !! ok, I can't help with those event viewer logs. They aren't ones that I've seen before as leading to anything solid. Going from your excessive use of explanations, if you really are in urgent need, you really need to be contacting [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is their job to get you past setup issues, and you can ring them up if need be. If you wish to deal with things through the forum, first priority is a deep breath and get your heart rate/blood pressure down and leave yourself ready to dig in. If you've upgraded from something pre-6.5, lets just start by doing a complete uninstall, then delete c:\program files\slimserver, the entire tree. Then re-install. This will make sure you don't have anything left over (even prefs). If you want to save something for later, once you've found the exact problem, please make a backup. Try running again, and use the command prompt execution I've posted previously if you have to. If you are still stuck, it's the output from that that will hopefully point the way foreward. -kdf ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
I've watched and been involved in acquisitions several times. The usual timetable is that the founders leave as soon as the financial handcuffs come off (earn-outs, restricted stock selling etc.), key staff go somewhere else where the small compoany spirit still exists (or where there is equity to be had), the proposed new products get shelved (testing new price points == we'll kill it if it doesn't sell) and the original customers who enjoyed the kudos of owning the audiophile product go elsewhere. Seems to me that only happens in companies who don't love what they make. I get the totally opposite impression from SD. -- flattop100 flattop100's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7760 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Squeezebox2/3 Reciva upnp interoperability
This relates to Reciva based wifi radios such as those made by Acoustic Energy and Magicbox. After about 6 hours trying various upnp server software, different wireless network settings, updating the firmware on my router and much other messing around I finally discovered that the problems I was having with upnp on my Reciva based radio went away when I switched off my slimdevices squeezebox2. Basically if the squeezebox is connected to a slimserver, even in standby mode, attempting to do anything via upnp on a Reciva radio is extremely flakey and will result in a reset to reacquire network within seconds. I'd be interested to know whether it's the squeezebox or the reciva radio that's not behaving so I know who to whinge at! Interestingly a upnp client operating on a windows machine seems unaffected by the squeezebox which might imply it's the Reciva's fault but I guess it's not totally conclusive. Any help or suggestions to workaround this would be great (other than the obvious Turn the squeezebox off) Thanks -- PaulR PaulR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1220 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28838 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
junien;147410 Wrote: Let me introduce myself. My name is Junien Labrousse, Logitech SVP of the Entertainment and Communication Business Unit. The first thing I'll say is that we are very excited about the opportunity that Slim Devices will bring to Logitech. This is a great extension of our current business. Let me assure you that one of the main reasons for this acquisition is the development capabilities of the Slim Devices team. The technical level of this group is a key asset that we fully intend to leverage. The Slim Devices entity will function independently, keeping the spirit of advance audio technology and strong product innovation. Logitech will bring its global distribution and marketing capabilities, providing a jump start to a large visibility and adoption of Slim Devices products. Junien Junien, Welcome to our world! Congratulations on selecting a great acquisition target. You have acquired a great team with strong design and development skills. I am sure that your marketing and distribution skills will assist in extending the addressable market of the Squeezebox. Unlike some of the people here I think that Logitech is a good match. Sure the Logitech will move into new terrain in some senses but in others it has long been associated with quality premium products. My MX700 was reasonably expensive for a mouse when I bought it (just after launch) and was by far the most expensive mouse I had ever bought. Why did I buy it? Because it was the best and a quality product, with excellent build standards. Very similar to the reasons why I bought my SB3. Sean et al, A good move and I hope you grasp this opportunity to acheive greatness. I personally had worried that the old smaller Slim Devices would struggle to grow in the face of increasing competition from Apple etc and would end up limited to a niche market. I now think that there is every reason why the squeezebox can become the leading brand in digital home audio. On a personal note, I like most other people here am very attached to the Squeezebox and may find future brand changes difficult, however if it brings a healthy future to SlimDevices, it's people and products then I for one am very pleased. Regards, Fairy -- fairyliquidizer O wad some Power the giftie gie us To see oursels as ithers see us! It wad frae monie a blunder free us, An' foolish notion. -Robert Burns- fairyliquidizer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3678 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Dear Sean and Julien, I sincerely hope and ask you will find opportunity to answer this one question: What will happen to openness in regard to platforms and data formats? I use BSD and keep all my music in FLAC. Concisely put, this is a principled conscientious choice. I would be very sad to see support for these freedoms go. Please tell me that Slimdevices will continue to support open formats and free platforms. Please? -- KlaymenDK - 010\001\111 - KlaymenDK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4538 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Dear Sean and Junien, I sincerely hope and ask you will find opportunity to answer this one question: -What will happen to openness in regard to platforms and data formats?- I use BSD and keep all my music in FLAC. Concisely put, this is a principled conscientious choice. I would be very sad to see support for these freedoms go. Please tell me that Slimdevices will continue to support open formats and free platforms. Please? -- KlaymenDK - 010\001\111 - KlaymenDK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4538 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
junien;147410 Wrote: Let me introduce myself. My name is Junien Labrousse, Logitech SVP of the Entertainment and Communication Business Unit.Dear Junien, if you treat them well you'll be rewarded by a very loyal community of early adopters, opinion leaders and trend setters. I'm personally very happy for this news. I would have hated to see SD reach the same end that Rio reached, and in a competitive market, in the long run, you need big shoulders to survive. Since I have you here Junien, maybe you'll read this: why, why, why don't Harmony remotes allow users to reorder commands on the LCD at will... it's the only grain of sand in an otherwise supremely well oiled mechanism. And... given your expertise with Harmony... can we expect a Sonos like remote in the future for our Squeezeboxes? :) -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
I'm likewise in the congrats camp. Sean and the team at SD, as well as all those other contributors from the developers forum have done a fantastic job and developed a great product in the Squeezebox. But I'm not surprised that SD has decided to come under the umbrella of a larger organisation in order to take it to the next stage. The fact it was announced here first and immediately followed by some posts from Logitech shows that everyone is sensitive to this community's likely reaction. The big issue for me is how SD can continue to harness this vibrant and quite unique user / developer base to improve the product, whilst making it user-friendly enough to move it to mass market. Someone recently suggested the software could split into two - a it just works version (mp3, wma only not so many option), and the current ultra configurable version. I hope that the deal with Logitech takes account of the things that are likely to be most important to the community developer group - open-source, cross-platform, multiple format support being the three that come to my mind. In the time I've spent on the boards, my impression is that they can act as a crucial sense check on new product features and code. Without knowing any of the details, I suspect that SD could have been sold for more if the product line had simply been handed over and the software closed off (or at least the current software no longer supported and new, closed source software subsequently implemented), and so I'm hopeful that this is the beginning of just another chapter. -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox2/3 Reciva upnp interoperability
Does the problem happen when SB3 is in standby and slimserver is not running ? If it only happens when slimserver is running - have you tried the -noupnp option on the command line ? -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28838 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
seanadams;147487 Wrote: Their press release has not gone out yet - I wanted us to announce it here first.This deserves a separate thank you. I've personally been involved in a corporate acquisition and giving info the go on an internet forum speaks volumes about your dedication to customers. Thank you Sean. -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Hi, Speaking as a Windows desktop user and Logitech purchaser (mouse, keyboard, pc speakers, Harmony) I suppose I should applaud the news, but I do think those with the most concerns will be the open source community who may fear a forking of development and maybe being left with a product with less than full functionality. Best Regards, Doug. -- Dougal Dougal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5489 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
flattop100;147616 Wrote: Seems to me that only happens in companies who don't love what they make. I get the totally opposite impression from SD. The snappy answer is that they currently enjoy what they do, that may change for the worse or it may get better. Don't forget it isn't strictly SD anymore and no matter how independant they may be, new rules apply from now on. It's up to Logitech to make sure their new acquisition is happy - most of what they've paid for is the people, if they walk, that's a lot of money down the tubes. However, there's nothing like cash in the pocket to give you a more relaxed perspective to life, and in Sean's shoes I'd be looking forwards right now. Whether a few months down the line the team get itchy feet is yet to be seen. I don't want anyone to get me wrong though, I still love the product - as I said a Logitech Transporter doesn't appeal to my hifi snob sensibilities, but perhaps it'll evolve and look even cooler. -- CardinalFang You're only young once, but you can be immature forever... CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
-What will happen to openness in regard to platforms and data It's been mentioned before: SQN is running on Linux (or even BSD?) - they'll have to further support *x systems if they want to continue SQN. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: V6.5 huge FileCache
I've sadly had to revert to SlimServer 6.3 with this problem still happening. Can you advise me if you have managed to fix it, or offer alternative options (e.g. store cache on different drive / switch off cache / dont cache artwork)? Or do I have to stay on 6.3 for ever ;( -- rbdavis rbdavis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7751 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28105 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox2/3 Reciva upnp interoperability
BPA, Helpful input as always (thanks!) The problem seems to happen when SB3 is switched on and associated with a slimserver. If slimserver is not running the problem doesn't occur. I didn't know about the -noupnp option but I'll try it later.(good idea!) I've tried various wireless options including mixed/non mixed modes and it doesn't seem to affect things. There also might be a clue in this problem when firing up the upnp server: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28617 -- PaulR PaulR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1220 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28838 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
CardinalFang;147634 Wrote: as I said a Logitech Transporter doesn't appeal to my hifi snob sensibilities, but perhaps it'll evolve and look even cooler.Well... you already said it: you know what's inside. You could mod it to your heart's content and have the greatest player in a totally cool CardinalFang box. ;) -- gorman gorman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=56 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: V6.5 huge FileCache
I've sadly had to revert to SlimServer 6.3 with this problem still happening. What version have you been using? IMHO this is fixed. My Slimserver has been running for two weeks now and the FileCache weighs 16MB. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Re: Continued linux support: seanadams;147594 Wrote: That is the plan. It is a small effort since our software is fundamentally platform independent anyway, and NAS support is also an important and growing part of our business. Oh, and SqueezeNetwork runs on Linux. :) Don't expect linux drivers for mice and keyboards to come from Slim, but yes, this does mean that one division of Logitech will be supporting Linux. Sounds great :) Along with other comments in this thread, I agree that this was rather inevitable for continued growth of SD. I certainly don't get the feeling that this is a complete sell-out ;) Good luck and whatever will be, will be. And in the meantime enjoy the Hawaiian Island... -- ehjones ehjones's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5218 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox2/3 Reciva upnp interoperability
In case it's relevant I have a SB2 (don't know if it happens with a SB3 but I presume it would). -- PaulR PaulR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1220 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28838 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Congratulations to the Slim Devices team, and to Logitech as well. I share the concern of many others about where the new ownership will take the product line, and especially what will happen to its open and cross-platform nature. An earlier favorite gadget of mine, Xircom's Rex 6000 micro-PDA, didn't survive when Intel bought Xircom, but a community grew up to hack, support, and extend that proprietary source project. Obviously this is different, because the Rex6K wasn't Intel's motivation for buying Xircom (just like Logitech didn't acquire SD to get the Slim cleaning cloths, or remotes). So I'm taking a wait and see attitude, although this might push me to get off my butt and buy that 3rd SB that I've been thinking about for several months... -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Dan Sully;147560 Wrote: Too late, Sean already has a Porsche. Can he park it any better than the Merc he had a few years ago? :P -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Squeezebox2/3 Reciva upnp interoperability
If it only happens with slimserver running - I would think it is upnp associated or possibly conflict on port 9000. IIRC in 6.5 slimserver acts as upnp client to enable user browse upnp served media - I think happens as part of the solution to support Rhapsody. The -noupnp stops this upnp activity. It is also possible the AE device can only use port 9000 and if slimserver starts first then slimserver gets port 9000 rather than the other upnp server. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28838 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
CardinalFang;147634 Wrote: ...as I said a Logitech Transporter doesn't appeal to my hifi snob sensibilities... This is bang on the mark. The high-end audio marketplace is *extremely* badge-sensitive, and the Transporter branded as a Logitech product will not sell, period. What ought to come out of this is that Logitech will sell shedloads of Squeezeboxes, which is a good thing, because it means that the best affordable network player around gets to survive. But the only way the Transporter (or evolution thereof) will stick around is if it retains its Slim Devices branding, or perhaps better still (from a marketing perspective) Logitech cuts an OEM deal with one of the names in high-end audio. If Logitech try to sell Transporters with their own badge, they simply won't shift and we'll see this superb cutting edge device get axed. -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Odd XMMS/Winamp tag display behaviour
Hi all, Don't know if anyone else has seen this this: When listening to music using XMMS (and I believe also winamp), streamed from SlimServer (6.5 official), the tag information that is displayed keeps jumping around. To explain... In the main XMMS information window, now playing information is scrolled across the display. Also the current bitrate is displayed. What is displayed is 1. Welcome to SlimServer (which I guess is the name of the stream), which is then followed by the track details scrolling across the screen. What happens is that part the way through the track information scrolling across the screen, the display will jump back to showing 1. Welcome to SlimServer, then scroll the track information from the beginning. This also happens in the tray icon information. I've just noticed in fact that this jumping seems to directly coincide with changing bitrates. I'm currently playing music from my SlimServer converted to MP3 (from FLAC) at 192Kbps ABR. XMMS is showing that this varies between 160 and 256kpbs (which I guess you would expect with ABR). Each time the bitrate information updates the track information as described above. Does anybody how to stop the jumping? Is it possible to force slimserver to use CBR instead, as that might be a way of preventing this happening? SlimServer Version: 6.5.0 - 9916 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 XMMS (running on Solaris 10/SPARC) Music streamed over SSH converted from FLAC to MP3 at 192kpbs/ABR. Chris. -- chris.mason chris.mason's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3323 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28841 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
I think this is good news - what Slim needed to progress to mass market was more RD investment, access to mainstream, global, distribution and cheaper manufacturing costs to get the end product price down.All of that should come with Logitech. They're one of the high end aftermarket peripheral companies IMV. Their current audio kit might not be aimed at the high end but that can change and the Harmony remotes are most definitely aimed at high end AV. The Harmony remotes are excellent and the potential for integration between Harmony and SB is huge. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Let's be realistic. When you are in business, there are offers you simply can't refuse. I'm only sorry I don't own SD stock. Congrats to all at SD -- Sir G Sir G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2489 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.5.1 won't release its mySQL instance upon closure
I have seen this behaviour starting from the transformation (early starting at 6.5b already) to sql, always wondering when this would be picked up ;) -- bronnie bronnie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28832 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Congratulations! I see no immediate impact on my own Slim relationship, but note happily that this deal just possibly might be a beachhead into mainstream consumption of electronic gadgets, for a heavily open sourced community product development participation model. Hopefully more mainstream media will report on the benifits of this, and others might follow... dream on :-) peace, peter ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
cool, i hope this will let slim get devices into more households... and you can say you were there when it all began! I'll put my slimp3 next to my 1st gen ipod in the trophy cabinet also i hope that this will enable a more consumer-product (as oopose to geek-toy) approach. I'd love to see slim products with the ease of use / setup - and remote! of Sonos... while keeping all the best it has to offer...open software, great plugin architecture...frequent software updates... -- gb115b gb115b's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1781 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
When I purchased my SB, I immediately started to worry about the viability of SlimDevices. Will they be there forever for me? I worried even more after I fell in love with the product, the service, the forum, even the server software (despite some fits and starts). I work for a company that is positioning itself to be purchased (someday). The American way. Do good work and be rewarded for it. Things have to change at SD. It is inevitable. Corporate will slowly encroach. I want my little company back...I'll take the anxiety. Good for the guys at SD. They deserve it, but we didn't. It is rare to have a product in the marketplace that engenders loyalty and passion. I hope you can sustain that. Neurotically yours -- utowana utowana's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4204 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Dan Sully;147560 Wrote: Too late, Sean already has a Porsche. Hopefully it's easier to park than the last one. MC -- ModelCitizen Now what? Squeezebox3 (linear PSU) Benchmark Dac1 Naim NAC 82 Naim NAP 250 Shahinian Arcs. Plus other irrelevant, superfluous and annoying black boxes. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless natively, when?
I have ripped a rather large number of files to WMA Lossless and am now converting to FLAC. To me the transcoding is not the problem, but lack of volume leveling is. There is apparently no support for WMA Lossless volume leveling tags in the SlimDevices system (hardware or software). I listen to very mixed playlists not individual albums so no volume leveling would make this very unpleasant. Kirk -- kklemme kklemme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7442 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26133 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Scanning problem
Slimserver 6.5 is throwing an exception while scanning my library. If i'd have to guess it is because one (or more) of my files or songs contains a funny character that the scanner is splitting the string one (eg '). Is this a known problem? Created with mp3Tag, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?, ?)': DBD::mysql::st execute failed: called with 23 bind variables when 22 are needed at /usr/local/slimserver/CPAN/DBIx/Class/Storage/DBI.pm line 771. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2118 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28845 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
funkstar;147652 Wrote: Can he park it any better than the Merc he had a few years ago? Low blow! :-) And where was the link to that picture? -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
One thing I have to ask ... will the cash infusion mean that a homeplug version might be possible now? And I second the comment about having to being prepared for a bunch of newbies in the beginner forum. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless natively, when?
fauzigarib;126794 Wrote: I've just started messing around with flac, and I found that it takes forever! Of course, since I'm completely new at this, I could be doing it completely incorrectly. I downloaded EAC, and FLAC, and configured EAC to use an external compression program and pointed it to use FLAC.exe. Is this correct? It took me over 25 minutes to do one jazz cd last night... is that normal? Any help is appreciated... I haven't had a chance to search teh forum yet, so i'll just get down to that. Fauzi There are a number of different programs which will rip to FLAC, not just EAC. EAC is considered to be a close to perfect rip - superior to other ripping engines, but the downside is that it takes longer. If you are looking for audiophile quality - EAC is the only serious contender IMHO. However if you want FLAC files and a good (but not necessarily close to perfect) rip check out Audiograbber, DBPoweramp or JRiverMediaCenter. The Beginners Guide to Ripping in the wiki gives other options: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?BeginnersGuideToRipping I use Audiograbber and am very pleased with it. My setup is nowhere near good enough to tell the difference between EAC ripped FLAC files and Audiograbber ripped FLAC files (whereas I can tell the difference between mp3 and FLAC consistently). HTH -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26133 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Anyone who has worked in software development knows how expensive it can be, even in open source. One of the problems we have seen already is the lack of proprietary formats and DRM support. This requires licensing, which requires money. Now Slim Devices has some deep pockets behind them to support more of these formats. First thing I can think of is Play For Sure and/or Zun support. Also, I would love to see a sqeezebox video player. Do with video what you do with audio. I have never bought a media player because all of the ones I have looked at do not support the audio formats that my slimserver/sqeezebox 2 does. So I say good move guys! I do hope that Logitech remembers why they bought you and also remembers that many buyouts fail because executives forget why they bought a company and then go in and kill those very things that made the old company work! -- interspectrum interspectrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
I think it's definitely too early to tell how this is going to impact the future generations of the SqueezeBox and Transporter lines ... my personal feeling is that they're going to loose some Street Cred if/when logitech puts thier big goofy-looking logo on the product. I am quite happy that I bought a pre-logitch device, because I will always have that known quantity for as long as it continues to operate. Hopefully it'll last as long as some of the other electronics in my posession ... some on the order of decades. That said, I'm future-proofing myself by keeping copies of old SlimServer versions so I know I'll always have -something- that works with my SB, even if Logitech manages to bumble up the Server software down the line in some capacity or other. I also worry about the future of the SqueezeNetwork ... I don't see that as much of a cash cow ... there's no advertising ... maybe there's some kick-back from Pandora subscriptions ... dunno. I can't see Logitech keeping SqueezeNetwork alive if it is mostly liability with little potential for profit. I predict that SqueezeNetwork will either be scuttled, become a fee-based subscription service, or be riddled with advertising (unless you pay your ransom and subscribe). Fortunately I'm not addicted to SqueezeNetwork, and I have my old server software which supports internet radio, and my old hardware that isn't 'locked down' at the firmware level from being able to have the flexibility I now enjoy. I know this is fairly pessimistic view of the future of SlimDevice's product line ... but history shows what happens in cases where a small, innovative, flexible, service-oriented company is taken over by a publicly traded Corp-monster who's primary responsibility is to shareholders, and customers are just money trees to be plucked and groomed only enough that they keep sprouting dollar bills. -- jeffluckett jeffluckett's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Selling SB3
Michaelwagner;147575 Wrote: Wanna sell the SB2 instead? Ah...no. I've thought about it and, no. I require an SB in the basement for a future secondary system and to act as a wireless bridge for a PC there. This will be at the limit of my wireless range. In my testing the SB2 pulled in a signal more strongly than the SB3. That's what really matters to me in that location. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28820 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with version 6.5.1 10386
norderney;147611 Wrote: I went into Event Viewer and looked under System and found Warning WinDefend. Opening this up I get Windefend has detected spyware or other potentially unwanted software. Then it says Path Found service slimsvc:file c:\Program Files\Slimserver\server\slim.exe Alert type unknown. What's that WinDefend thing? It seems to be interfering with Slim. Can you disable it? -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28828 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
I am an old Amiga user - bought the original 1000 when it hit the shelves. Amiga was bought by Commodore. Commodore was no stranger to computers, having been involved with the 6502 development and having brought the PET and the 64 to market. And yet, they didn't understand what they had bought, had less than zero clue how to market it and they totally botched it. I hope Logitech understands what they have bought. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with version 6.5.1 10386
Mark Lanctot;147683 Wrote: What's that WinDefend thing? It seems to be interfering with Slim. Can you disable it? Don't know really!!! When I go into event viewer it says Windows Defender Real Time Protection agent has detected spyware or other potentially unwanted software -- norderney norderney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28828 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimServer 6.5.1 won't release its mySQL instance upon closure
I'll try to be more specific; please see the attachment. I would've guessed more people discovered this problem? +---+ |Filename: SlimProblem.JPG | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1862| +---+ -- arcticblue arcticblue's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7711 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28832 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Paranoid thoughts: If Logitech, who just launched a product in this category, saw Slim as a major threat, then $20 million is a drop in the bucket. If they wanted to kill the SB so it wouldn't compete with their own product, this is a cheap way to do it. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
)p(;147694 Wrote: The design of the 1000 sure comes close to the brushed metal rounded corners look of the sb3 already...seems like a pretty good basis for creating the sb remote everyone seems to want ;) peter Judging by a comment Sean made some time back and the new SD ownership I'm sure it can only be a matter of time before there is a new remote. MC -- ModelCitizen Now what? Squeezebox3 (linear PSU) Benchmark Dac1 Naim NAC 82 Naim NAP 250 Shahinian Arcs. Plus other irrelevant, superfluous and annoying black boxes. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
I hope Logitech understands what they have bought. If you're interested in a postive example, I'm assuming that Logitec purchased Harmony, and that's why the remotes are named Logitec Harmony. For me, congratulations to the Slim Devices people! -- Joe ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Congrats Slim and Sean - well done with taking your business where it has to go to continue to grow like it needs to in order to survive :-) I don't tend to get emotionally tied to product, just go for the best compromise I can find at the time I am looking. Will watch this space with great interest - just sort me out something that features a Sonus style intelligent remote combined with a dacless Transporter and my dreams will be answered - by next Spring guys if you can... :-) . -- Timbo Timbo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=933 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with version 6.5.1 10386
norderney;147686 Wrote: Don't know really!!! When I go into event viewer it says Windows Defender Real Time Protection agent has detected spyware or other potentially unwanted software OH! That's Windows Defender. Somewhere in your Start - Programs menu you should have a fortress icon for Windows Defender. Open it, go to Tools. In Options, you can choose to disable real-time monitoring completely. But explore around the Tools menus, you should be able to find where it's walled-off poor old Slim and you should be able to tell it that Slim is safe. This could be in Quarantined items. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28828 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: V6.5 huge FileCache
Yes this problem is fixed. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28105 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless natively, when?
kklemme;147671 Wrote: I have ripped a rather large number of files to WMA Lossless and am now converting to FLAC. To me the transcoding is not the problem, but lack of volume leveling is. There is apparently no support for WMA Lossless volume leveling tags in the SlimDevices system (hardware or software). I listen to very mixed playlists not individual albums so no volume leveling would make this very unpleasant. Kirk So just add replaygain tags to the FLACs - you can either do it while converting or afterwards using something like foobar2000. -- radish radish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=77 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26133 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless natively, when?
There should be no audible difference between EAC and Audiograbber FLAC files at all (unless one of them is adding some gain compenstaion or normalisation) otherwise they wouldn't be truly lossless. -- luga00 luga00's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1938 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26133 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Michaelwagner;147672 Wrote: And where was the link to that picture? http://flickr.com/photos/ycantpark/25737470/ Sean did sucessfully defend himself here: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=47272postcount=9 seanadams;47272 Wrote: First of all, that is exactly where they told me to park. Secondly, my car is NOT QUITE AS GAY as riding a pony around town. Lastly, no, we never sent out those stickers. They are a vinyl cutout and a bit of work to stick on, but we could have a bunch made if people are interested. Pic: http://www.seanadams.com/slim_sticker.jpg Hey, I also noticed that Sean's site is gone. :-( -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
I have been mulling this over all day thinking about my reactions to what was actually quite a shock first thing this morning. I have two concerns at this point. 1. One of the major attractions for me about the whole SS/SB thing has been the incredible responsiveness to user demand and its seemingly endless capacity for tweaking in all sorts of directions. If people look at the SB and think this is just a way to get their mP3s out of the PC and into the stereo then they are missing a lot. Just think for a moment what the current software/hardware combination can do - multiple file formats, automatic volume levelling, weather forecasts, scrobbling, cricket scores, wireless bridging, Palm/PPC/Nokia 770 remote control, streaming over the internet to my hotel room, softsqueeze, synchronised multi-room systems, etc, etc - oh, and damn fine audio serving as well. Can we really expect this level of innovation and why the hell not? attitude to continue under a mass-market, quarterly-profit driven environment? A vivid example in this area is AlienBBC - one of the primary reasons for me, as a globally displaced Brit, to spend so much time and money on my SBs. This is very much a 3rd party plug in and needs to be maintained since the BBC will always want to move stuff around. Also it is dependent on 3rd party codecs and things like M-player. I believe that AlienBBC is a magnificent achievement by all of those involved but it does not seem like the kind of effort that fits well in a structured corporate set up. I fear for its future. 2. The Transporter is my second area of concern. I can see how the SB3 might fit into a Logitech product line-up as they are obviously moving into that area, but not the Transporter - it just not feel like a match for a company founded on mice and keyboards. And, as others have pointed out, the high end audio world is unlikely to embrace a Logitech device as being a credible serious device, however good it is. And I believe from my own experience it is a VERY good high end audio source. I cannot honestly see the Transporter surviving for long under the new owners (so get one while you can). Of course I might be completely wrong about all of this... davep -- davep davep's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=61 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Congrats to Sean and the folks at Slim. It's hard to turn down cash when it's staring you in the face. But unfortunately I just can't help but think that this will be the demise of Slim as we know it. My thoughts went right to negative as I read the news this morning. I may now wish that I had ordered my Transporter sooner. But I suppose my SB'3 will be the last of a dying breed. Logitech? Quality Audio? Kind of an Oxymoron. -- Robert_W Robert_W's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6540 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
notanatheist;147545 Wrote: Then again, if we can get individual units for $199 or less as a reseller then I'm on it. Just please keep things as they are with SlimDevices and don't try to customize or cheapen it with a crappy LCD or proprietary software. Err, aren't you asking for contradictory things? Drop the price to $199. Don't cheapen it. ? I'd prefer to pay a bit more for a VFD which has some distinct advantages over an LCD, and I hope Logitech feels the same way. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless natively, when?
radish;147705 Wrote: So just add replaygain tags to the FLACs - you can either do it while converting or afterwards using something like foobar2000. Actually, that's one of the main reasons I am changing to FLAC. I am using replay gain. The problem is that there's no way to volume level with WMAL. Actually, using the command line entries suggested in the EAC setup WIKI, replay gain is being done automatically when I rip with EAC and convert immediately to FLAC. What a bonus! Everything's pretty well automated with the exception of album art..relatively painless. -- kklemme kklemme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7442 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26133 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
kdf wrote: From the working side of the picture, I can certainly imagine that expanding user base with the existing small club will be crippling. As is often the case, kdf's comment is among the most insightful among the chatter. The one thing I fear about this change is *the management of success*. Many of us were here when AOL arrived on usenet. Remember that? I'm a SB1 owner (old but hardly among the originals) and I remember reading every single slimlist post...now, forget it. I finally aliased a Delete Thread key in my mail client just for this list. What's going to happen when we get 10K new users? [Note the use of the pronoun we - as if it's something more than just a cool box that plays my music.] P.S. - I can only imagine some of the discussions over the phone/table. Well, first we have this users' group. Second, we have this guy, kdf... Good work, slimdevices. You deserve every bit of your good fortune. -- Chip Hart - Pediatric Solutions * Physician's Computer Company chip @ pcc.com * 1 Main St. #7, Winooski, VT 05404 800-722-7708 * http://www.pcc.com/~chip f.802-846-8178 * Pediatric Software Just Got Smarter. Your Practice Just Got Healthier. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
The thing that worries me is that the first post made by a Logitech employee included the word leverage... run away!!! -- kanoot kanoot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4324 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with version 6.5.1 10386
Well, it's not Windows Defender causing the problem. I have turn it off completely now and rebooted my PC and still getting scanner.exe crashing with the Windows error. Any other ideas? Other than re-installing Windows XP and all my other applications -- norderney norderney's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=378 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28828 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Sonos-like remote?
Has anyone tried to drive the Slimserver with the Logitech Harmony 1000 or the Phillips Philips RC9800i http://www.homecontrol.philips.com/. These two look pretty solid although I guess there's lots of other remote control options out there in the market. The Phillips one does look very swish and very similar to the Sonos remote. -- hfu1 hfu1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4718 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=27824 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Mark Lanctot;147478 Wrote: The Transporter is their first, and only, very high-end audiophile, niche product. Depending on how things work out, it could be that Slim Devices may not be able to introduce new products to this market - they may no longer have the credentials for this. I hope what Junien just posted is right, but audiophiles are a finnicky and fickle bunch. But what really pays the bills is the Squeezebox, aimed at the up-market consumer. Slim Devices may have been kind of caught here in terms of growth - they just did not have any retail presence. Where could they have gone from here? We heard calls for taking the Squeezebox to the consumer - how could that have happened otherwise? This now completely eliminates that concern and will allow Slim to expand its product line for things users have been asking for - the Squeezebox boombox, the Squeezebox clock radio, perhaps even the Squeezebox portable player? The sky is kind of the limit now. They will have the financing and the marketing ability. The Squeezebox was not really a consumer item. Now, suddenly, it is. There was one mention about Apple DRM. Support for this has gotten much closer - I'm sure Apple would never have worked with Slim Devices but they might work with Logitech. Also they can solidly trounce Roku, as if they haven't already. :-) But if the quality stays the same or better, who really cares if the audiophile credibility goes down? At $300, the sb3 already doesn't have enough, and is cheap enough to go pretty mass market. I, for one, couldn't care less, since what I want from the thing is sound quality and convenience, rather than bragging rights. ;) -- totoro _ squeezebox 3 - behringer 2496 - classe 5 - mccormack dna .5 - audio physic tempo 4 totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
totoro;147718 Wrote: But if the quality stays the same or better, who really cares if the audiophile credibility goes down? At $300, the sb3 already doesn't have enough, and is cheap enough to go pretty mass market. I, for one, couldn't care less, since what I want from the thing is sound quality and convenience, rather than bragging rights. ;) I didn't say that I buy based on bragging rights either, I buy based on quality and performance. I was just saying that that segment of the market may have to be dropped, because Slim Devices may be able to sell Transporters, but Logitech might not, even if they are the same device. It's a shame, but it will probably be the case. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: V6.5 huge FileCache
Which version of slimserver contains the fix (I assume it is one of the nightly versions)? -- Jeff52 Jeff52's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=103 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28105 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: V6.5 huge FileCache
Any version of 6.5.1 after 10/6. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28105 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
I still love my original SliMP3 and I've steered many friends and family into buying a Squeezebox. Great stuff. I hope you guys have all been handsomely rewarded for building such a great company. -- icky2000 icky2000's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Congratulations Slim Team! Like others in this forum I feel that this will be the end of innocence for SD. In most cases where small innovative/independent companies are acquired by large bureaucratic publicly traded companies... innovation becomes the first victim. The killer(s)?... A: The excesive number of processes and guidelines that need to be followed before releasing a product and the bottom line driven demand for returns from the stockholders. Will we get better quality Logitech/SD products?... That's still TBD. I hope history does not repeat itself. Where is my new remote??? Btw, I almost called this one a a week ago... but I meant partner with... not get acquired by... Logitech. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=145212postcount=15 -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Mark Lanctot;147722 Wrote: I didn't say that I buy based on bragging rights either, I buy based on quality and performance. I was just saying that that segment of the market may have to be dropped, because Slim Devices may be able to sell Transporters, but Logitech might not, even if they are the same device. It's a shame, but it will probably be the case. In fact audiophiles are so finnicky that many of them don't like the networked audio approach at all because they believe that they can hear the difference between WAV, FLAC, and direct off a CD. Makes no sense, I know, but then again, this makes no sense either: http://www.referenceaudiomods.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PRODProduct_Code=NOB_C37_CCategory_Code=VOLUMEProduct_Count=2 http://marigoaudio.com/vtstuningdots.htm Sorry if I sounded snippy. I guess we just disagree about whether losing that particular market segment is truly a shame :). As far as I can see, it's shrinking rapidly, and the correlation between sound quality and audiophile credibility got really weak a long time ago. There are good reasons why younger people and more tech savvy people are turned off to the whole audiophile culture, as exemplified by the links you posted. As the technology gets more mature, there shouldn't be much reason for a mass market company not to be able to make good products. We don't by artisanal cpus for our computers, after all. And at this point, rowland is selling icepower amps with el cheapo asp modules in them for 5k-- the whole scene has jumped the shark, imho. -- totoro _ squeezebox 3 - behringer 2496 - classe 5 - mccormack dna .5 - audio physic tempo 4 totoro's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Pale Blue Ego;147695 Wrote: Paranoid thoughts: If Logitech, who just launched a product in this category, saw Slim as a major threat, then $20 million is a drop in the bucket. If they wanted to kill the SB so it wouldn't compete with their own product, this is a cheap way to do it. Good point. It's awfully hard to see them keeping two products at the same price point with the same basic function (even if the details are very different). Maybe Logitech is out to kill the SB, but I'm hoping that we'll end up with a win-win convergence. Like the slick remote many have been craving, while maintaining SB's support for lossless formats and top-notch hardware. But then I read lines like this (from the web page on the the Logitech product) and get more pessimistic. Compatible Applications StreamPoint software accesses the media libraries of: * Apple® iTunes® 6.0.2 (and higher) * Windows Media® Player 9 (and higher) * Musicmatch® Jukebox 9.0 build 508x (and higher) Plays any format your PC can play: * MP3 WMA * iTunes® (AAC) * Internet Radio -- aubuti aubuti's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2074 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Decent Universal Remote
808htfan;147549 Wrote: Nah, just the price. In order to get discrete on/off/etc codes and pc programming you'd have to get one of their more expensive models. They're really good but cost so dang much! Actually, the MX-500 could be programmed using an IRClone-Mx and its software, but they're almost impossible to find and the website is long gone. Good luck I just ordered the Harmony 688 for $69 from NewEgg (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16880100708). Overall, I think the state memory is worth the extra price. The rest of the Harmony line definitely prices me out of the market though. -- jeffluckett jeffluckett's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28639 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Congratulations, team! You've developed some great products needed in the market! -- schalliol schalliol's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1854 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Maybe I'm in the minority, but my SB sits alongside my one and only hi-fi system (i.e. home theater and music system). It's the only IP-networked element in that system. So, SD has managed to get footprint in my HT before any other IP-based device has (e.g. Apple or Microsoft). I would love to see Logitech use their deep pockets to leverage this fact plus the fact that they also have footprint on the coffee table (i.e. Harmony remotes). Maybe this is completely out of left-field, but I would love a SqueezeBox-like Tivo-type product (form factor would likely have to be more Transporter-like, but you get the idea) that uses something like MythTV or GBR. I don't want to build (or pay a premium for) a media PC to record TV any more than I did for listening to music. One final thought, I always forget that Harmony is owned by Logitech. In other words, they are Harmony remotes - not Logitech remotes. I don't see why this same phenomenon won't occur for SD products. Congrats to SD and here's to hoping for some exciting products down the road. Mitch -- Mitch G Mitch G's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=548 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Playlist disappears
I am running slimserver 6.5.0 on a windows playform. I like to listen to my music at work, streaming across the Internet. I have playlists setup and saved. I normally pause my player when I leave the office. If I do this at the end of the day, the next day the play list is empty. I can go back to the saved playlists and tell it to play and it picks up where it left off, but in prior releases the playlist would stay active, in a paused state until I manually cleared it. any ideas? John -- jwgreco jwgreco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8057 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28850 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
totoro;147733 Wrote: Sorry if I sounded snippy. You didn't, that's OK. :-) I guess we just disagree about whether losing that particular market segment is truly a shame :). Not exactly - as I said, I don't really think it pays the bills for Slim Devices. The SB3 is their bread and butter, and to get mass-market consumer adoption, something like this was inevitable. A product like the Transporter really gives a chance for a company to show off its engineering prowess though. I'm an audiophile only in as far as I can actually perceive/measure the difference, and where it makes physical sense. I'm an engineer and a practical person - I don't agree with the cable magic bunk and I have those two links in my bookmarks I bring up whenever anyone starts to get into the cable magic argument. However the Transporter has some practical things where you can actually measure a difference, and Sean has posted oscilloscope traces to prove it. My Transporter is on a UPS truck somewhere on the 401 right now, actually. :-) As far as I can see, it's shrinking rapidly, and the correlation between sound quality and audiophile credibility got really weak a long time ago. There are good reasons why younger people and more tech savvy people are turned off to the whole audiophile culture, as exemplified by the links you posted. Yes, it is true that this market is shrinking. More and more people are turned on by video and surround sound. I personally don't care much for video. Audio is just so much harder to get right and there's something just more impressive to me about really good audio. I can't explain it. We don't by artisanal cpus for our computers, after all. Actually there is some nonsensical product devotion flying in the face of reasoning going on here too. For example, people think that dual-core CPUs will be a whole lot faster in a single-user, non-multitasked environment. (And hey, those upcoming quad-core CPUs will be FOUR TIMES AS FAST, right??) Or that the AMD FX processors are so much better because they're so much more expensive. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Mark Lanctot;147709 Wrote: Err, aren't you asking for contradictory things? Drop the price to $199. Don't cheapen it. He did say $199 to the resellers. -- Michaelwagner Michaelwagner's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=428 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Problems with version 6.5.1 10386
I am also having this problem since updating Slim Server to version 6.5. I am running Windows XP and when I try and rescan the Itunes Library the scan gets so far and then crashes with a Windows error relating to Scanner.exe Faulting application scanner.exe, version 0.0.0.0, faulting module perl58.dll, version 5.8.7.813, fault address 0x00089994. There are no errors in the System log at all. The only other entries of note in the application log relate to a SOurce OMCI, and there seems to be one of these Information notifications before each scanner error: Chassis intrusion detected. This typically does NOT indicate a hardware failure. 1. Contact your Help Desk if you did not personally open your chassis. 2. Enter System Setup Set Chassis Intrusion to 'Clear'. Here are the details from my debug log Warning: Migrating from 6.3.x used with MySQL! Warning! - Slim::Formats::Parse::registerParser is deprecated! Please update your code to use: Slim::Formats::Playlists-registerParser($type, $playlistClass) Make sure your $playlistClass has a -read() method, and an optional -write() method Backtrace: frame 0: Slim::Formats::Parse::registerParser (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Alien/RTSP.pm line 34) frame 1: (eval) (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Alien/Plugin.pm line 112) frame 2: Plugins::Alien::Plugin::__ANON__ (perlsvc.pl line 1313) frame 3: (eval) (perlsvc.pl line 1313) frame 4: PerlApp::my_require (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Alien/Plugin.pm line 112) frame 5: Plugins::Alien::Plugin::BEGIN (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Alien/RTSP.pm line 0) frame 6: (eval) (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Alien/RTSP.pm line 0) frame 7: (eval) ((eval 671) line 2) frame 8: Slim::bootstrap::__ANON__ (perlsvc.pl line 1313) frame 9: (eval) (perlsvc.pl line 1313) frame 10: PerlApp::my_require ((eval 671) line 2) frame 11: Slim::bootstrap::BEGIN (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Alien/RTSP.pm line 0) frame 12: (eval) (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Alien/RTSP.pm line 0) frame 13: (eval) (/PerlApp/Slim/bootstrap.pm line 231) frame 14: Slim::bootstrap::tryModuleLoad (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/PluginManager.pm line 198) frame 15: Slim::Utils::PluginManager::canPlugin (/PerlApp/Slim/Web/Setup.pm line 3563) frame 16: Slim::Web::Setup::getCategoryPlugins (/PerlApp/Slim/Web/Setup.pm line 3455) frame 17: Slim::Web::Setup::addGroup (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/MusicMagic/Plugin.pm line 139) frame 18: Plugins::MusicMagic::Plugin::initPlugin (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/MusicMagic/Plugin.pm line 82) frame 19: Plugins::MusicMagic::Plugin::enabled (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/PluginManager.pm line 206) frame 20: Slim::Utils::PluginManager::canPlugin (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/PluginManager.pm line 260) frame 21: Slim::Utils::PluginManager::addPlugin (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/PluginManager.pm line 163) frame 22: Slim::Utils::PluginManager::initPlugins (/PerlApp/Slim/Utils/PluginManager.pm line 65) frame 23: Slim::Utils::PluginManager::init (slimserver.pl line 410) frame 24: main::init (slimserver.pl line 32) frame 25: PerlSvc::Startup (perlsvc.pl line 1482) frame 26: PerlSvc::_startup (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Alien/RTSP.pm line 0) frame 27: (eval) (C:\Program Files\SlimServer\server/Plugins/Alien/RTSP.pm line 0) Setup::rescan - initiating scan of type: [rescan] Any ideas what I need to do? Also seem to have lost all my saved playlists done via Squeezebox and my AlienBBC plugin has dissapeared. :( -- RL boy RL boy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=520 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28828 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Mitch G;147743 Wrote: One final thought, I always forget that Harmony is owned by Logitech. In other words, they are Harmony remotes - not Logitech remotes. I don't see why this same phenomenon won't occur for SD products. Mitch The BIG unknown in this equation is SD's Open Source and community based developement that does not have to wait for big brother to approve code releases. When was the last time you were able to make your own modifications to the Harmony remote code just to make the remote do exactly what you want? Not possible... right. You're tied to a web interface/wizard that only allows you to make predifined changes. This is what's at risk here. But again... this is still TBD. -- tamanaco tamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Congrats guys! -- datavortex datavortex's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8064 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Was Harmony open source prior to the acquisition by Logitech? If not, it seems like apples and oranges, as far as that goes.On 10/19/06, tamanaco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mitch G;147743 Wrote: One final thought, I always forget that Harmony is owned by Logitech. In other words, they are Harmony remotes - not Logitech remotes. I don't see why this same phenomenon won't occur for SD products. MitchThe BIG unknown in this equation is SD's Open Source and communitybased developement that does not have to wait for big brother toapprove code releases. When was the last time you were able to make your own modifications to the Harmony remote code just to make theremote do exactly what you want? Not possible... right. You're tied toa web interface/wizard that only allows you to make predifined changes. This is what's at risk here. But again... this is still TBD.--tamanacotamanaco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4620View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821___ discuss mailing listdiscuss@lists.slimdevices.comhttp://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
davep wrote: 2. The Transporter is my second area of concern. I can see how the SB3 might fit into a Logitech product line-up as they are obviously moving into that area, but not the Transporter - it just not feel like a match for a company founded on mice and keyboards. And, as others have pointed out, the high end audio world is unlikely to embrace a Logitech device as being a credible serious device, however good it is. And I believe from my own experience it is a VERY good high end audio source. I cannot honestly see the Transporter surviving for long under the new owners (so get one while you can). Two thoughts on this: Slim may continue to co-brand or solely brand a portion of their lines. Or they might decide to define a new brand for their high-end offerings.So the Transporter might be the Logitech Transporter, it might something else entirely. After all, the Harmony remotes are still branded under that name. The RD costs of the Transporter are sunk. And that product is an asset that Logitech has just paid for. It doesn't make sense to me that a decision would be made to kill a product just as it is beginning to make money. It also provides an entry point into AV specific sales channels that may be desirable in Logitech's planning. --rt ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Wow, less than 12 hours after the announcement and people are already predicting doom and gloom that they don't have bragging rights or niche status with their Squeezeboxes any longer. Folks, I thought it was about the music. Logitech can probably help Slim reduce costs on the more mainstream products like Squeezebox while still allowing a high end Transporter product to succeed in the market. I see a simple windows installer for the noobs and a high end server product for custom installs or those users who want to do their own compiles, add their own plugins, etc. This is all good for us, the consumers, as likely one big benefit of the acquisition is that prices will go down. Don't condemn this deal until it bears sweet or bitter fruit. And for those exceptionally bitter people, buy as many Sbs and Transporters as you ever think you will need and get the latest server software, it does virtually everything you would ever want to do for music listening in the current state it's in. Hats off to the Slim Devices team, congrats on this deal, I'm sure it's good to get handsomly rewarded after years of hard work!! -- jmpage2 jmpage2's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=41 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Logitech to acquire Slim Devices!
Like the guy above, I bought a Harmony remote one month before Logitech bought them, and I bought a Squeezebox 1 month before Logitech bought them. My buying habits are obviously of intense interest to Logitech. In that case, I can tell them that a major reason I bought the Squeezebox was that the Logitech wireless bluetooth music streamer I bought never worked reliably. But the Squeezebox does. (As does my Harmony remote.) Keep it that way. -- jfalk jfalk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6929 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=28821 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: WMA Lossless natively, when?
luga00;147706 Wrote: There should be no audible difference between EAC and Audiograbber FLAC files at all (unless one of them is adding some gain compenstaion or normalisation) otherwise they wouldn't be truly lossless. I think (and I'm about as a far from being audiophile as you can get !) the point is that the EAC rip is more accurate than other ripping engines so that there could be a bit more information taken from the CD which is then encoded into the lossless file. Whether this translates into an audible difference - who knows ? I certainly couldn't hear it with a mid-range (£1,000) system. EAC's also highly configureable which is another plus point for some. -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=26133 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
