Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-19 Thread autopilot
erland;647699 Wrote: Could you give some examples ? I'm just asking because I'm seriously interested to hear why people select Squeezebox over Sonos, if you compare their specifications they are fairly similar and everyone more or less knows that Sonos just works while it usually takes a

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-19 Thread socistep
autopilot;651003 Wrote: For me... 1. Cost. 2. A portable battery powered option for the garden etc. 3. The third party BBC iplayer plugin 4. Having a screen on the players. 5. Being able to use an IR remote as well (made posible by point 3). 4. 5. for me are very important and often

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-19 Thread swayzak
amcluesent;647759 Wrote: But, yep, the Duet Receiver was a lemon. ? How so ? The Duet has been a fantastic investment for me. Horses for courses I guess shrug -- swayzak swayzak's Profile:

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-19 Thread wonder boy
My 2 penneth... Been a SB fan for 3+ years. I can't recall what lead me to SB or indeed why I wanted to listen to streamed music. I remember, I think seeing the Roku soundbridge and thinking it would be cool but on further research serendipity brought me to the SB system. I have SB3, two booms

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-12 Thread kweller
bobkoure;649095 Wrote: A square four? Interesting engine. I worked in a Triumph/Vincent shop (also long ago) and encountered a few Arials - even though it was the US, not the UK. They had a major disadvantage: rear cylinder cooling. Made sense for a sidecar rig where there was ducting.

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-12 Thread kweller
socistep;649067 Wrote: I'm also a bit of a geek with slight OCD for which managing the tags on a collection keeps me occupied, Me too although I'm not sure about the 'slightly' nor 'keeping me occupied' as once they're done they're done. socistep;649067 Wrote: I'm not on the cutting edge

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-12 Thread socistep
kweller;649116 Wrote: Me too although I'm not sure about the 'slightly' nor 'keeping me occupied' as once they're done they're done. If my experience is anything to go by I would stay there. I'm much happier now as I have a working system once again but it took a while to get there.

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-12 Thread bobkoure
kweller;649114 Wrote: Er, no. That would be an Ariel Square Four. Which, in the states, at least, was dubbed a 'Squariel'. Looking at wikipedia, I don't see that nickname for the ' Square Four' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Square_Four) so I guess it was a regionalism (New England, FWIW).

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-11 Thread Sike
I may have backed the wrong horse too. I am a network, VOIP and systems engineer working on the field for around 15 years now. I bought SLIMP3s way back when and used to order them im bulk to save shipping and sell them on to friends (at no extra charge) and have turned in to a bit of a

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-11 Thread SilverRS8
Looking at the latest release and the quality level Logitech marketing thinks it ok then its just a matter of time seeing the sales figures drop down and the advertisements on e-bay going up. This would be the automatic result of web2.0 (people rating and reviewing everything online). It amazes

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-11 Thread socistep
Its 3 years since I bought my first SB product which was a Duet, I now have 4 zones - 2 touch's, a Radio and a Boom, the Duet has been mothballed! I still love the product range and what it gives me, listen to so much more music and also gave me the introduction into getting more HiFi kit that

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-11 Thread bobkoure
kweller;647730 Wrote: This won't mean anything to non-UK residents but I bought Squarial as well! A square four? Interesting engine. I worked in a Triumph/Vincent shop (also long ago) and encountered a few Arials - even though it was the US, not the UK. They had a major disadvantage: rear

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-11 Thread aubuti
Sike;648971 Wrote: I constantly had to explain to people how to swap between the two (Digging down in to the Menus of a SB3...) Erm, it doesn't really take a systems engineer to know that the switching between mysb and SBS is on the _top_ level menu of an SB3. -- aubuti

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-10 Thread froth
With the changes at Logitec and some interesting developments I too am questioning my decision to own Squeeze Box technology over Sonos. First I am a happy user of the technology, have been for a while now. However I have been troubled by wifi network issues recently and while I can manage them

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-10 Thread Mnyb
having 14 neighbouring network i decided to cable as much as possible. sonos mesh would probably not help as it uses the same freq band. Also one should investigate the limits of ones router, a little known fact repeated on this forum is that some makes models don't conect more than for example

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-10 Thread get.amped
The 65K track limit is the deal breaker for Sonos. I just helped a friend set up his newly acquired SB3 ($136 incl. shipping from e-bay) to replace the $$$ Sonos system for that very reason. It baffles me that the company would have put such an unnecessary limitation on the size of the music

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-10 Thread reniera
froth;648747 Wrote: With the changes at Logitec and some interesting developments I too am questioning my decision to own Squeeze Box technology over Sonos. First I am a happy user of the technology, have been for a while now. However I have been troubled by wifi network issues recently

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-10 Thread aubuti
TiredLegs;648376 Wrote: - Sonos did not initially offer players designed to connect to existing stereo systems. They wanted to sell you their amplifiers and speakers instead of leveraging what you already own. (Sonos now offers players designed for connection to external systems, but that

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-09 Thread TiredLegs
I originally chose Squeezebox over Sonos for a few reasons: - I wanted the ability to run the server software on a Network Attached Storage box and play my music without requiring my computer to be running. At the time, Sonos didn't have that capability, although it does now. - Sonos did not

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-08 Thread xio
Have been around since SLiMP3 days, currently running that, an SBG (don't hear so much about them!), SB2, 2 SB3's, a Boom, 2 radios a controller. Have always tried to keep things simple, and where possible, wired (have cabled my house). Only ever had 2 problems, one with the SuperDateTime

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-08 Thread vrette
The price we pay for all of this wonderful technological innovation is it is complicated, and sometimes doesn't work as it should. Who ever thought 20 years ago that future media players, receivers, or TVs would crash and need to be rebooted/and or reset? I started with a Slim Devices SB3, but

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-08 Thread steamcoal
This post is amusing and very informative as well. Thanks for the info. coalportal(dot)com -- steamcoal steamcoal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48826 View this thread:

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-08 Thread mlsstl
I took a quick look at the Sonos general discussion forum a few minutes ago. Here are some of the subject lines I saw: Dropout problems Upgrade disaster Playlist troubles High-pitched squeal Android app problem Alarm problem Grrr Sound familiar? And that was just from a surface skim of one

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-08 Thread Ron Thigpen
I've had a lot more success than Cipro with my SB's. I have 2 SB2s, a Boom and a Radio. I keep them sync'd up most of the time, with the Boom and Radio playing together most of the day every day. I listen to a mix of my own library (~100k tracks mixed MP3 and FLAC files) and internet radio

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-08 Thread InTheBath
Thank goodness for a post slightly down on SB that hasn't descended into slanging. I am playing poker and drinking Talisker, so I apologise now if any of the following is disjointed etc. I think it is fairly well documented [citation needed] that VHS won when the porn industry started releasing

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-08 Thread Soulkeeper
erland;647699 Wrote: I'm seriously interested to hear why people select Squeezebox over Sonos I can remember a small insight in what convinced me: * I was introduced to the Squeezebox family 'first' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primacy_effect#Primacy_effect). That has an effect. * I know

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread erland
GeeJay;647708 Wrote: Last I checked, the system didn't support ratings in the same way your plugins allow for Squeezebox. I use random playlists that allow for higher rated tracks to play more frequently. Some of these dynamic playlists can get pretty narrow in focus: Christmas, the British

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread kweller
Cipro;647678 Wrote: snip I picked the wrong horse...im mad and sad...and frustrated.. I picked Betamax..VHS won... I've been with this kit since the first Squeezebox and currently have five Squeezebox 3s and a Touch. I came to the same conclusion as you some time ago. I don't install beta

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread DaveWr
The biggest difference is Sonos are committed to their product line, with resources etc. Logitech are not, a few diehard engineers are, but that doesn't provide a secure future direction. -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile:

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread amcluesent
Could you give some examples ? No hi-rez file support 65,000 track limit No BBC Radio 3 HD streaming No balanced output (on the Transporter) But, yep, the Duet Receiver was a lemon. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile:

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread GeeJay
erland;647719 Wrote: I think you can do it by integrating with iTunes and use iTunes smart playlists, but Sonos still doesn't support ratings natively as far as I understand: http://forums.sonos.com/showthread.php?p=135291#post135291 It doesn't sound like Sonos has any interest in program

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread kweller
kweller;647730 Wrote: snip I'm sitting here looking once again at the Squeezebox displaying the track information for the song it just played rather than the one it's currently playing. Moose is displaying the same incorrect information. Reinstalling Squeezebox Server, rescanning, rebooting

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread Goodsounds
For transport of music as with most things, there's no one solution to meet all needs. My SB assemblage (now consisting of 2 SB3s, a Boom, and a Touch) has been rock-solid and trouble free for years. A friend who lives nearby has never gotten his system stabilized. Another friend had a Sonos

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-07 Thread mrfantasy
I run the nightlies (debian 'unstable' branch) and almost never have problems. I only have one Squeezebox 2 and use SqueezePlay and SqueezePlayer, have about 15,000 FLAC files (and a few dozen MP3s). -- mrfantasy --Mike http://last.fm/user/mrfantasy

[slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-06 Thread Cipro
Guys, This is NOT a i told you so post. I have spent 3/4 years what ever its been with 6 Launch versions Duets + controller. Its been a rough ride, I have fought it at ever turn...my wife has fought me at ever turn... Worked one day...dropouts the next...reboots the next...firmware updates the

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-06 Thread GeeJay
The reason Betamax died was it did nothing better than VHS, and had several disadvantages. Sonos may very well have the advantage in certain respects, but the fact is there are differences between the products that can allow both to survive. The last time I checked, Sonos was missing some

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-06 Thread erland
GeeJay;647689 Wrote: The last time I checked, Sonos was missing some capabilities that I consider critical to my listening experience. Could you give some examples ? I'm just asking because I'm seriously interested to hear why people select Squeezebox over Sonos, if you compare their

Re: [slim] My story of picking betamax...

2011-08-06 Thread GeeJay
Last I checked, the system didn't support ratings in the same way your plugins allow for Squeezebox. I use random playlists that allow for higher rated tracks to play more frequently. Some of these dynamic playlists can get pretty narrow in focus: Christmas, the British Invasion years