I have a full LMS ecosystem - actually more then one - with SB Touch,
SB3, Boom, Radio, Jogglers, Libratone Zipp (AirPlay bridge) and about
half a dozen Pis but we do also have a couple of Echo Dots. The dots
are used to keep a shopping list running and to switch on/off lights -
one is linked to
Paul Webster wrote:
> See earlier for ruling out of smart speakers.
They can turn the microphone off, there's a button conveniently placed
on top of the unit to do this. ;)
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kidstypike wrote:
> Yes, I have an Echo Dot here in a drawer, used it 3 times just for the
> novelty. But it can be attached to an existing amp/speaker setup.
See earlier for ruling out of smart speakers.
RobbH wrote:
> Thanks for all responses so far.
>
> Paul, what you are describing is
castalla wrote:
> The problem with the echo dots is the poor audio quality. The Google
> minis have better sound, but are nowhere as flexible with
> services/skills.
>
> The screen versions are probably worth the extra - either the Show 5 or
> the Google Nest Hub. The Googles have chromecast
kidstypike wrote:
> Squeezebox/LMS is *not* for non-techies, I know, I tried to set up a
> system for my sister (I even bought her a Squeezebox Touch), no go, she
> and her partner couldn't get their heads round it. They finished up with
> a Bose speaker in every room and a Spotify account,
RobbH wrote:
> Right now, my focus is on getting them some very minimal gear so they
> can get experience with online music. I hope that by the time they've
> dealt with some pressing house maintenance issues and feel okay about
> spending some money on toys, they will have more knowledge about
RobbH wrote:
> Speaking of different ways of packaging the same thing, and getting back
> to my original question: I am marginally aware of other music systems
> based on Raspberry Pi, like Max2Play, but have never felt a need to
> investigate anything other than piCorePlayer. Should I be
Grumpy Bob wrote:
> We seem to have deviated from the main thread somewhat!
>
True, but some of the best conversations I've ever had have consisted
mainly of digressions.
>
> I found myself wondering if the OP's friends, who don't seem to have a
> HiFi if I remember correctly, may not have
We seem to have deviated from the main thread somewhat!
I found myself wondering if the OP's friends, who don't seem to have a
HiFi if I remember correctly, may not have a music collection in any
formats. In which case a multiroom system aimed at streaming from
Spotify or similar and internet
Cool stuff in these inner grooves!
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RobbH wrote:
> I miss the "inner groove" audio on Yer Album by the James Gang. Side 1
> repeated "Turn me over" until the arm lifted. Side 2 said "Play me
> again!" Totally missing on the CD.At the end of side 1 of "The Bobby Darin
> Story" he says
"Now you better turn me over or I'll crash
w3wilkes wrote:
> Then there's humor in the migration to CD... "Tom Petty - Full Moon
> Fever - Running Down a Dream" at the end of this song on the CD where he
> added the blurb;
>
> Hello CD listeners...
> We've come to the point in this album where those listening on cassette,
> or records,
RobbH wrote:
> Speaking of different ways of packaging the same thing, and getting back
> to my original question: I am marginally aware of other music systems
> based on Raspberry Pi, like Max2Play, but have never felt a need to
> investigate anything other than piCorePlayer. Should I be
RobbH wrote:
> Speaking of different ways of packaging the same thing, and getting back
> to my original question: I am marginally aware of other music systems
> based on Raspberry Pi, like Max2Play, but have never felt a need to
> investigate anything other than piCorePlayer. Should I be
RobbH wrote:
> Indeed, many albums on LP could be described similarly, with each side
> being a separate and distinct work. When the medium switches to CD, or
> folder full of files, or a stream from a server, the pause marking the
> boundary between sides is lost. And that changes the
cliveb wrote:
> Quite so. LP does not necessarily equate to album. There are LPs that
> contain more than one album. Obvious example off the top of my head is
> Kate Bush's 1985 LP, which contains the two albums "Hounds of Love" and
> "The Ninth Wave": to my mind they are distinctly separate
garym wrote:
> And I'm with you: an "album" is (most of the time) a collection of songs
> that is an artistic statement of the artist, independent of medium.
Quite so. LP does not necessarily equate to album. There are LPs that
contain more than one album. Obvious example off the top of my head
garym wrote:
> good point re the origin of album. I'd forgotten seeing some of these
> multiple 78s in "books". And I'm with you: an "album" is (most of the
> time) a collection of songs that is an artistic statement of the artist,
> independent of medium.
I believe that when 45rpm records
RobbH wrote:
> I think the term "album" has been used figuratively ever since we moved
> beyond the (literal) multipocket album of 78 rpm records, like the one
> depicted here:
>
> 'Toscanini recording of Haydn Symphony on Discogs'
>
I think the term "album" has been used figuratively ever since we moved
beyond the (literal) multipocket album of 78 rpm records, like the one
depicted here:
'Toscanini recording of Haydn Symphony on Discogs'
garym wrote:
> maybe these days we have to only qualify for: lossless vs lossy,
> hi-rez vs redbook, or digital vs vinyl.
> edit: back in the day it was only about the artist and the "album", and
> never a thought to the medium (since we basically had no medium
> choices).
Perhaps the 2020
d6jg wrote:
> Back in the day if you said Im listening to Pink Floyds new album it
> inferred that you meant on vinyl LP. If you were actually listening to a
> cassette or 8-track youd add that qualification. Now its not as
> straightforward.
> As I type Im listening to The Jams All Mod
Back in the day if you said Im listening to Pink Floyds new album it
inferred that you meant on vinyl LP. If you were actually listening to a
cassette or 4-track youd add that qualification. Now its not as
straightforward.
As I type Im listening to The Jams All Mod Cons but its not an LP
d6jg wrote:
> Interesting - I used (still do) the words LP and Album in slightly
> different ways.
> My LPs
> Have you heard the new album by
> At the time (70s) the album was only released on vinyl (and possibly
> cassette) so the words album and LP could be interchanged.
yep, LP and
garym wrote:
> Yep, we also used the term "LPs". Never owned an EP in the old days,
> and the singles we called "45s". I did also have some 78s that my
> grandmother gave me. And yep, we referred to all of these as records,
> as in "my record collection". Ahhh, the good old days. :)
castalla wrote:
> 'Albums' were we kept kept photographs, or pasted collections of
> 'exotic' foreign stamps.
>
> In my day, and place, we called them LP records! There were also EP
> records, and just the (single) reccord.
Yep, we also used the term "LPs". Never owned an EP in the old
garym wrote:
> albums (today called 'vinyl').
'Albums' were we kept kept photographs, or pasted collections of
'exotic' foreign stamps.
In my day, and place, we called them LP records! There were also EP
records, and just the (single) reccord.
LMS server: O2 Joggler with Jivelite, Pi
RobbH wrote:
> Yes, for some of us, the idea of having no audio gear is worse than
> horrifying, it's unthinkable. Obviously, my friends are not quite like
> that. It's not that they're indifferent to music, they just have higher
> priorities. (I can say that, but mentally I can't quite grasp
garym wrote:
> p.s. I had to smile about lack of any stereo stuff. I can think back to
> my younger, broke days when everything* I had would fit in a single
> suitcase. But even then I had a Receiver, Turntable, speakers, and a few
> crates of albums (today called 'vinyl').
>
> *everything
RobbH wrote:
> Thanks for all suggestions. The sense I'm getting so far is that an LMS
> system should work for them in the long run. But we aren't there yet.
> They really have no hardware for playing music at present, and right now
> the budget doesn't allow for even a basic Sonos system.
Thanks for all suggestions. The sense I'm getting so far is that an LMS
system should work for them in the long run. But we aren't there yet.
They really have no hardware for playing music at present, and right now
the budget doesn't allow for even a basic Sonos system. I'll probably
lend them a
garym wrote:
> True if they only want to stream. However, I don't think these two
> ropieeeXL endpoints would synch to one another exactly unless running
> something like Roon or LMS. Simply as two standalone spotify endpoints,
> they'd be off synch (assuming they want synched players, that
In the original post an interim measure of a bluetooth speaker was
suggested. If budget allows I'd upgrade that to a Bluetooth / AirPlay
speaker - something like a Libratone Zipp - as it could then be used
with Phillipe's AirPlay Bridge plugin in a future LMS. Its also a very
good portable
netchord wrote:
> an even simpler option might be a pair of RPis running ropieeeXL as
> Spotify Connect endpoints. then use Spotify as your player. done. no
> server necessary.
True if they only want to stream. However, I don't think these two
ropieeeXL endpoints would synch to one another
I'm unclear on whether your friends already have a stereo or powered
speakers to use with LMS. If so, setting up a Raspberry Pi server/player
and controlling via mobile device is the way to go. If not, I'd take a
closer look at Sonos.
A pair of Sonos One can be configured for stereo or set up
an even simpler option might be a pair of RPis running ropieeeXL as
Spotify Connect endpoints. then use Spotify as your player. done.
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RobbH wrote:
> Thanks, Clive, that's good to know.
>
> Incidentally, I am not only inquiring about the suitability of LMS for
> my friends. If anybody thinks some non-LMS system would be a better fit
> for them, I would like to hear about it. It just needs to be easily
> upgradeable and
RobbH wrote:
> This is what I was hoping to hear. Still interested in hearing others'
> thoughts on this.
>
> Why do I update every week? Because I can!Just use the stable 7.9 version and
> be done with it. I have three
friends I set up this way and they've been using this setup for years
cliveb wrote:
> This is just one anecdotal data point...
> I have piCorePlayer v4.1.0 running 24/7 on a RPi3B. The LMS cache is on
> the external USB drive.
> Over the last year or so, for various reasons (a faulty oven and a
> faulty outdoor light) an RCD on the fusebox has tripped - I'd guess
garym wrote:
> exactly. I over simplified. But you're correct, it is best to use
> piCorePlayer to properly shutdown the rPi if the rPi is running LMS.
> Not doing so (just pulling the plug), won't necessarily corrupt the SD
> card, but it might. I *think* (not sure) that if one has LMS
garym wrote:
> exactly. I over simplified. But you're correct, it is best to use
> piCorePlayer to properly shutdown the rPi if the rPi is running LMS.
> Not doing so (just pulling the plug), won't necessarily corrupt the SD
> card, but it might. I *think* (not sure) that if one has LMS
RobbH wrote:
>
> Gary, I notice your brother's instructions are to pull the plug if
> there's a problem with pcp. I understand that can cause problems when
> LMS is running on pcp. Do you do anything to deal with issues that might
> arise? Is it enough to be sure there's a backup SD card ready
Thanks for all responses so far.
Paul, what you are describing is very close to what I have in mind, but
my friends don't yet have enough experience with current music
technology to know what their preferences are. They are certain they
don't want always-listening smart speakers. Other than
Yatsushiro wrote:
> There is no need to do this. A good, solid installation on good, solid
> reliable hardware will run for years w/o input. Why do you update every
> week? There are plenty of users running LMS 7.X and PCP <5 without a
> problem, just enjoying the music...
agree, I setup an
RobbH wrote:
> This is what I was hoping to hear. Still interested in hearing others'
> thoughts on this.
>
> Why do I update every week? Because I can!
The main reason for updates is use of external services such as playing
streaming services or internet radio - these external systems change
Do they have music / audio files stored locally on networked
computer(s)?
Is their main intention to listen to internet radio?
Do they want to pay for an internet music service without adverts? (If
yes - any preferences for which one?)
Are they OK to control things using mobile
Yatsushiro wrote:
> There is no need to do this. A good, solid installation on good, solid
> reliable hardware will run for years w/o input. Why do you update every
> week? There are plenty of users running LMS 7.X and PCP <5 without a
> problem, just enjoying the music...
This is what I was
RobbH wrote:
> LMS would be a great way to achieve what they want. But I can't see
> them happily running software updates at least every week, as I do.
There is no need to do this. A good, solid installation on good, solid
reliable hardware will run for years w/o input. Why do you update
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