RE: [DQSD-Users] Fix for XP SP2 Problem
At 12:35 18/11/2004 -0800, you wrote: Hi Kim, Opinions? What's more important - new release or new release working with SP2? IMHO, we ought to have something SP2-compatible first. I don't think it does us any good to push out a new version when our primary 'new' audience still can't use it. That sentence completely sums-up the problem as I see it. I don't have any problem using normal DQSD on XPSP2 and never have - I just click through the warning bar and carry on. As far as I can tell, everything (well, the bits I use, which include the calendar) works OK. Are there people who 'can't use it'? Lots of the 'fixes' being proposed actually seem to me to come at a much higher cost than clicking past a warning when I boot. They also seem to be very variable in their effectiveness and side-effect profile. I'm not arguing against a proper fix for SP2, I'm just saying that it appears to me that at the current rate of progress we might wait an infinitely long time for it to emerge, and we might as well release a version of DQSD in the mean time. Will --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: InterSystems CACHE FREE OODBMS DOWNLOAD - A multidimensional database that combines robust object and relational technologies, making it a perfect match for Java, C++,COM, XML, ODBC and JDBC. www.intersystems.com/match8 ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Revised 2004 - holidays.sg.xml
At 08:21 05/01/2004 -0600, you wrote: There have been issues in the past with the slow behavior of the calendar.. Its a lot of JS to load.. There was even talk of splitting the calendar out into its own add-in to not force the extra startup delay on people who are not interested in running it... The calendar has been blamed a bit on the slow startup (and hence disappearing tray icons) of the toolbar.. Someone (sorry I dont remember who) did a ton of work on it to greatly improve its speed. It was me, though it wasn't a ton, or even a tonne, of work, really. I did do a great deal of work on the 'about' box performance, but that's been lost in the huge increase in the number of searches. Sorry to be negative.. This is all IMO of course.. FWIW.. I agree entirely - DQSD has already bloated to the point where bits of it (for example the menu) are now unusable, even to people running on fairly serious workstations. Personally, I don't think anybody should add anything which slows it down any further, unless they can do a matching amount of optimisation work to go with it. Unless DQSD is lightning-fast, it loses much of its original intent. I'm not trying to pick a fight here - indeed, I'm personally responsible for one of the worst bits of usability - the vast, non-delayed tooltips which flash up immediately one runs up the menu. Yuk. But I don't feel like fixing this bug, as it might take me half a day which I don't have to spare. Will --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert in LINUX or just sharpen your skills. Sign up for IBM's Free Linux Tutorials. Learn everything from the bash shell to sys admin. Click now! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=1278alloc_id=3371op=click ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] Google's deskbar and miniviewer
At 19:51 11/11/2003 -0600, you wrote: The help window doubles as this.. The one piece missing is that the searches are merely removed from the available list and are still loaded with the toolbar.. This is a long needed design change. 3) snappy performance This directly relates to #2 above... Right now it simply takes too much time/cpu to load 300+ searches.. I quite agree. I'm using a twin 3GHz Xeon, which is probably as fast as any computer running DQSD, and the menu is still irritatingly (or embarrassingly) slow. The vast flickery tool tips are also a pain. (And I wrote much of the code for them!) Personally, I never use the menu any more, which means that I use only the tiny number of functions that I knew about a couple of years ago. TBH, I think DQSD needs a serious refactor/restructure, but I suspect that it's now so nearly 'good enough' that all the original developers have lost interest in improving it. (This certainly applies to me - I worked on it while it had problems which really irritated me, and for a period afterwards when I was still interested in doing the bits no-one else seemed to be able to get to work.) That's free software for you... Will --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] half searches
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 06:18:41PM -0500, Shawn K. Hall wrote: It is policy to avoid 'real' words ( http://www.dqsd.net/faq.htm#Searches ), but new contributors (myself included) have managed to submit searches with common words or abbreviations. We're working to correct these as time permits. Changes for many will be available in the next release. Do you have a list of which ones need changing? I might have some time to burn on renaming and testing them. Dean -- Dean Wilson http://www.unixdaemon.net Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Some progress on Explorer hang
Hi again, I'm afraid this is a bit of a stream-of-consciousness here. Rather than fiddling around in search.htm as per my last email, could people add checkForUpdate = false; to their localprefs.js file. (Or change the line equivalent line in preferences.js to 'false') Then let the list know the results... Cheers, Will --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] explorer hangs when trying to search
On Thu, Oct 09, 2003 at 11:16:18PM -0400, Shawn K. Hall wrote: If you mean 'October 2003, Cumulative Patch for Internet Explorer 6 Service Pack 1 (KB828750)' then i don't have that installed and i still see the same behaviour as you two do. Hm... Darn - I was hoping it was something easily identifiable. :( I've installed DQSD on another Windows 2000 machine with IE6. IE Version: 6.0.2800.1106 Update versions: SP1; Q822925, Q330994, Q828750 Before the machine was rebooted it was fine, I installed the patch, reboot and it breaks. (Actually the patch was already installed, it was just awaiting a reboot to activate it) Ignore my machine that doesn't have the patch, that must be another issue (Its where i play with Windows stuff so its probably something else or an interaction somewhere.) except maybe one of the 'new' searches (I always download the latest ones as soon as they come out) Your an addict :) . Are both of you using the latest 'new' searches from CVS? Nope, standard install from sourceforge. The one I've just installed is Version 3.1.6.0 - April 30, 2003 Looks like you were on the money with the new patch. Dean -- Dean Wilson http://www.unixdaemon.net Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
[DQSD-Users] Mailinator Search
I've put together a search that allows you to open www.mailinator.com at a specified mailbox. Mailinator, for those of you who have yet to abuse its service, accepts email to ANY address without any prior warning. You can then go and retrieve any email in any mailbox you want. One of its best uses is for sites that want an email before they let you in or allow downloads but spam the heck out of you afterwards. Using mailinator they never get any useful addresses. The official FAQ can be found here: http://www.mailinator.com/mailinator/Faq.do I've called the search mailinate so you can still Google for mailinator (and because i have a local alias set up to make it nice and short :)) My only problem is which category it should come under... Any suggestions? Dean -- Dean Wilson http://www.unixdaemon.net Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
[DQSD-Users] XRL Shorten URL 'search'
I've written a simple plugin for the xrl.us Metamark Shorten Service (the
site can be reached at either http://xrl.us or http://metamark.net/ but the
shortened links point to xrl.us to save characters.)
There is already a MakeAShorterLink plugin so i don't know if its worth
including both in the DQSD distro, i use xrl.us for other things as it has
a number of bindings available so i thought I'd write it for my own use if
nothing else.
At the moment I've set the search description up as xrl.us: Metamark
Shorten Service rather than the other way around as it's easier for me to
remember, if it'd be better the other way around let me know and I'll
change it.
Dean
--
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand
--- Anon
search function=xrl
namexrl.us: Metamark Shorten Service/name
description
Shorten long and unwieldy URLs.br/
div class=helpboxDescLabelsExample:/div
table class=helpboxDescTable
trtdxrl http://www.unixdaemon.net/dqsd_searches.html/td/tr
/table
/description
categoryFunctions/category
linkhttp://metamark.net//link
contributorDean Wilson/contributor
form name=xrlf
method=post
action=http://metamark.net/add;
input type=hidden name=long_url value= /
/form
script![CDATA[
function xrl(q)
{
if( nullArgs(xrl, q) )
return false;
else
{
document.xrlf.long_url.value = q;
submitForm(xrlf);
}
}
]]/script
copyright
Copyright (c) 2002 David Bau
Distributed under the terms of the
GNU Public License, Version 2 (http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.txt)
/copyright
/search
[DQSD-Users] The Webpoll Search...
I contributed is unfortunately no longer working. The company that was running it has been acquired and the UK technical operations have been pretty much shut down, this includes both the webpoll software and myself. From what I've been told it looks extremely unlikely that it will be coming back so it would probably make sense to remove it from the next release if that's possible. Sorry about this and any work it causes. Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
[DQSD-Users] Perldoc Search - first version
After spending some time looking for an excuse to try out the Dave's Quick
Search Deskbar Search Wizard (Verdict: very cool!) i decided to build a
search for the online perldoc repository (located at
http://www.perldoc.com/ not surprisingly.) Which allows you to search the
built in functions in Perl by version number, something which saves me
having a bundle of different documentation packages installed on all my
machines.
In the doc examples I've shown something i thought would save a couple of
keystrokes, the version number can be anything from a verbose /perl5.6.0
to a terse and more perlish /56
I've attached a working draft of the search but i have a couple of
questions for the list:
1. Should this kind of search live in the Computers-programming section or
the Computer-reference section? The existing language references (PHP and
Javascript) live in programming so I've done the same but i thought i
should ask.
2. I've used a bundle of separate cases in the switch statement, is there a
better way of doing this in Javascript such as maybe regexps in the case
statements?
The search itself has been working fine for me but while i was putting it
together i had some problems with the javascript switch/case statements, it
seemed to be matching strings like 'perl5.6' at the case perl5.6.1 code,
presumably it matched the substring and stopped there so I've altered the
order of the statement around a bit and its working but it seems a bit
kludgy. If any one knows a better way to do this I'd appreciate the
feedback.
HTH and thanks for keeping DQSD such a valuable tool.
Dean
--
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand
--- Anon
search function=perldoc
namePerldoc Search/name
categoryComputerscategoryProgramming/category/category
contributorDean Wilson/contributor
linkhttp://perldoc.com//link
emaildean dot wilson3 at virgin dot net/email
description
Search the online documentation for builtin functions from any released
version of Perl. Defaults to version 5.8.0 (The newest release as of May
25 2003)
div class=helpboxDescLabelsSwitches:/div
table class=helpboxDescTable
trtd/perl5.8.0/tdtd - /tdtdSearch within Perl version 5.8.0/td/tr
trtd/perl5.6.1/tdtd - /tdtdSearch within Perl version 5.6.1/td/tr
trtd/perl5.6.0/tdtd - /tdtdSearch within Perl version 5.6.0/td/tr
trtd/perl5.005_03/tdtd - /tdtdSearch within Perl version 5.005_03/td/tr
trtd/perl5.004_05/tdtd - /tdtdSearch within Perl version 5.004_05/td/tr
/table
div class=helpboxDescLabelsExamples:/div
table class=helpboxDescTable
trtdperldoc fileno/td/tr
trtdperldoc opendir /perl5.6.1/td/tr
trtdperldoc closedir /561/td/tr
trtdperldoc readdir /56/td/tr
/table
/description
form name=perldocf
method=get
action=http://perldoc.com/cgi-bin/htsearch;
input type=hidden name=words value= /
input type=hidden name=restrict value= /
/form
script![CDATA[
function perldoc(q)
{
if( nullArgs(perldoc, q) )
return;
var args = parseArgs(q, perl5.6, perl5.8.0, perl5.6.1, perl5.6.0, perl5.005_03, perl5.004_05, perl5.8, perl58, 5.8.0, 580, 58, perl56, 5.6.0, 560, 56, perl561, 5.6.1, 561, 5.005_03, 5.004_05);
if ( args.switches.length == 1)
{
switch( args.switches[0].name )
{
//basic catches, these are identical to params passed to the cgi
case perl5.6:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.6;
break;
case perl5.8.0:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.8.0;
break;
case perl5.6.1:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.6.1;
break;
case perl5.6.0:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.6;
break;
case perl5.005_03:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.005_03;
break;
case perl5.004_05:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.004_05;
break;
// shorthand catches for the lazy, and me.
case perl5.8:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.8.0;
break;
case perl58:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.8.0;
break;
case 5.8.0:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.8.0;
break;
case 580:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.8.0;
break;
case 58:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.8.0;
break;
case perl56:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.6;
break;
case 5.6.0:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.6;
break;
case 560:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.6;
break;
case 56:
document.perldocf.restrict.value = perl5.6;
break;
case perl561
RE: [DQSD-Users] Time Sync
At 11:13 15/02/2003 -0500, you wrote: Don't want to get off topic, but where is it in 2K/XP -- is it a service? Can't believe I've never seen it. In win Xp go to the clock on the taskbar (DQSD users will have to turn it back on!) and look at the third tab on the property sheet. In Win 2k you have to set it up with 'net time' from the command line. It is documented. (I know, because I filed a bug about its documentation during the w2k beta...) Cheers, Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] Time Sync
At 11:50 15/02/2003 -0500, you wrote: I had forgotten all about that. In XP, it is a tab on the 'date and time properties' page (double click on the time in your tray). It seems to trigger once a week and isn't configurable as to the frequency of syncs. Now to figure out how to call it command line and silent or something... NET HELP TIME is your friend. I have not seen it in 2K. It's there, but only accesible from NET TIME, IIRC. Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Fw: Install problem
At 15:23 23/01/2003 -0500, you wrote: Install problemAny ideas? Some kind of a/v software preventing .cmd files being written? Sounds like the kind of daft thing someone in a .gov domain would have had foisted on them by the bunch of monkeys in their IT department. If you create a zero length .cmd file and double-click it, you get the 'not a valid ...' message. Just an idea. Will --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] opening search in new window vs. reusing open window
At 10:14 09/01/2003 -0600, you wrote: When the reuseWindowMode is set to 1 or 2, is it possible to make the window that is being reused to come to the front and be active? Not easily. When the form.submit() is fired, is there a way to reference to the window that is reused? I don't know of one. It seemed to me that it was very difficult to find that window, without scary window-tree walking. And we know how robust that was... Will --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ To unsubscribe visit: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
[DQSD-Users] Re: please fix the disappearing icons from system tray-windows2000 prof-I.E 6
At 13:29 04/10/2002 -0400, you wrote: I have tried each new version of Google Quick Search Toolbar. Still same disappearing icons from system tray. Reboot sometimes puts icons back. Reboot sometimes makes icons disappear. WINDOWS 2000 PROF SP3 I.E.6 CALL FULLY UPDATED AND PATCHED. Three icons that have randomly appeared and disappeared are: NoteWhen Orinoco wireless card signal strength monitor Daemon virtual disk THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. I CANNOT FATHOM HOW THIS PROBLEM CAN PERSIST SO LONG COULD YOU AT LEAST ACKNOWLEDGE RECEIPT OF THIS EMAIL AND THE PROBLEM. THANKS, PAUL Please don't send bug reports directly to me - either use the sourceforge bug tracker, or send them to the dqsd-users mailing list. Ranting about the unacceptability of a minor problem or exclaiming that you can't fathom why it hasn't been fixed is unlikely to win you friends or enable you to influence people. DQSD is a free product which is worked on by people their spare time or in time they've stolen of their employers. I'm an extremely minor contributor but despite that, I've put time into DQSD which would be worth many thousands of dollars at my usual rates. I don't recall you paying me for any of that. Be grateful for what you've got, and if you don't like it, get on and fix it. That's what I did. Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ DQSD-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] Some questions/suggestions
At 09:25 30/09/2002 +0200, you wrote: Hey, Monty skipped this point, while I think it's a very interesting one !! Actually, It's one of the 3 reasons why I still have the Google bar (tip, if you don't know : cut'n paste text into Googlebar's textbox, click the highlight button, you're done, but quite tedious I recon). And if you want to know, the 2 other are : the up one -or more- level button, and the search this site button. So I agree this is a cool idea (if doable, as you said). I think you should file a request in SF on this one too. I think it's hard, because DQSD doesn't know anything about what IE does after DQSD submits a form. We've not even managed to meet peoples' hopes about start-maximised, etc, because of this problem about not knowing which IE window is related to the recently submitted form. And that's for a problem where knowing the window handle would be pretty much all you needed. I assume that the Google search bar manipulates the HTML within the displayed page to add the tags for background colour - that kind of thing is an awful lot easier to do it you're in-process in the IE window than if you're out-of-process hosted by the shell. Perhaps we need to produce a DQSD bar which runs within IE (or some other IE add-in) which can communicate with the DQSD window on the taskbar for information about required highlighting. Just my tuppence worth. Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ DQSD-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
[DQSD-Users] Site Performance addin
Hello list
I've put together a small search that uses a serverside app called
WebPoll to show the timings of 'objects' on a webpage. I wrote it for work
purposes (I work for the site owners WebPerform and it made sense to add it
to the toolbar as i use both frequently) and thought i'd share it
considering how useful the other searches have been to me.
If anything needs to be modifed to make it more useful or any
improvements/fixes need to be put in all feedback is welcome.
Dean
--
Profanity is the one language all programmers understand
--- Anon
search function=webpoll
nameWebPerform Webpoll/name
description
Webpoll displays a graph illustrating the timings of the objects on a web page.br/
div class=helpboxDescLabelsExample:/div
table class=helpboxDescTable
trtdwebpoll www.google.com/td/tr
trtdwebpoll slashdot.com/td/tr
trtdwebpoll http://www.perl.com/td/tr
/table
/description
categoryComputers/category
linkhttp://www.webperform.com//link
form name=webpollf
action=http://www.webperform.com/scripts/webpoll.exe;
method=post
input type=hidden name=url/
/form
script![CDATA[
function webpoll(q)
{
if( nullArgs(webpoll, q) )
return false;
else
{
document.webpollf.url.value = q;
submitForm(webpollf);
}
}
]]/script
/search
Re: [DQSD-Users] TECH21 Readers turn tables on Google
At 11:45 30/08/2002 -0700, you wrote: ...Thought you might want some feedback (as if you don't get enough already). Armen, Can you try typing refreshicons into the search bar and pressing enter? Then tell us the result. DQSD is endlessly plagued by bugs in Windows Explorer, and we're in the process of trying to work around them. Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] TECH21 Readers turn tables on Google
At 13:26 30/08/2002 -0700, Armen Melikian wrote: Dave's Quick Search Deskbar Version 3.0 - June 29, 2002 Did you update to 3.1 since Monday? Well, not me, but yes. I'm a little out of touch with the release schedule, but I think that the refreshicons command might well not be in 3.0. Don't get your hopes up too much, but it would be worth upgrading, and it would be useful for us if you could try the refreshicons command. Current versions of DQSD warn you if they're out of date, so you'll never have this problem again... Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] suggestions
At 22:27 27/07/2002 -0400, you wrote: Try changing the helpMenuToolTipsDisplayTime = 3 to: helpMenuToolTipsDisplayTime = 5; It now seems to be working ok here. I'm afraid that's just luck. There's no link between the tooltip mechanism which is uses that preference (and which does the help menu), and the one which does the time/date tooltip. Having done some experiments, I actually think that having a tooltip appear every time I put the cursor over what is in effect an edit control is a bloody awful idea, which is why I haven't done the work necessary to make the time/date tooltip work properly. I would think that the code which does the tooltips for the help menu should serve as a help to anyone who wants to do the date/time tooltip. Please don't have it enabled by default... Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.0 problem on Win2K Pro
At 00:45 27/07/2002 -0400, you wrote: Grabbing it as we speak. Thanks for the prompt response. I gather this _is_ a known issue. There are umpteen things which might cause that error message. What we think is the most common has been addressed since the 3.0 release. The reason that the earlier version didn't give the message is that it didn't have the features which are being talked about, so it's not a regression per se. Please let us know if you still have problems with the current beta. Cheers, Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] DQSD 3.0 problem on Win2K Pro
At 18:57 27/07/2002 -0400, you wrote: I got a slightly different variant of the error message, then another telling me the DQSD helper DLL was out of date, then another telling me the web page I was vieing wanted to close the window, and asking me for permission to do so. When I said yes, DQSD went away. Reloading it produced the variant dialog box again, saying There was a problem initializing the enhanced keyboard support - some key combinations and hot keys may not work (Error Wrong number of arguments or invalid property assignment) This last error is consistent with versioning problems (i.e. the scripts don't match the DLL version. Popping up the calendar yielded the default Yahoo calendar. Well, the default calender as far as I know is nothing to do with Yahoo. I think you have a broken installation (probably the fault of the installer rather than you...) Could you try removing everything in the DQSD installation directory (you'll need to shut DQSD and log off/on to be able to do this. Then reinstall from the latest beta. Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] refresh icons
At 15:37 25/07/2002 -0700, you wrote: When I typed refreshicons I got google's seach results for refreshicons. So I searched the code for refreshicons and sure enough I found it in search.htm. Now comes the fun part. In search.htm I noticed quitdqsd and executed it. Now the whole Win2k taskbar is gone. How do I make it reappear without rebooting? Go CTRL-ALT-DEL and find the 'New Task...' button somewhere around whatever dialogue pops up (or on the task manager). Run 'Explorer' as a new task. That'll teach you to poke around the source code... Incidentally, I think you're either not running the version of DQSD that you're looking at the source for, or you mistyped refreshicons - it shouldn't launch a search. Cheers, Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber - The world's fastest growing real-time communications platform! Don't just IM. Build it in! http://www.jabber.com/osdn/xim ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] ie 5.5 apparently not needed?
At 07:31 22/07/2002 -0500, you wrote: I believe 5.5 is required to function properly as an application in windows. this doesnt mean you need IE for performing the searches.. (I dont use IE).. Any browser set to default should be spawned, unless the preferences are set to behave otherwise.. Well, we've all got different takes on this, but I'm 90% certain that you need a version of JScript later than that which ships with IE5 to support everything used by DQSD. It's entirely likely that some other application can upgrade this, so it could well be that you can get IE5.5's JScript engine running on machines without IE5. You'd find that a clean install of something like W2K with IE5 would not run DQSD without script errors. Cheers, Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] cyclical events in the calendar
At 16:22 22/07/2002 +0200, you wrote: I tried also âéôîûêäÄëËÏïöÖ Is that 'Tarzan Day'? Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] One More Question
At 20:12 17/07/2002 -0700, you wrote: Is it possible to put the search bar to the right of the system tray where the Windows clock would normally be? I don't think so. The 'thing' (called a rebar) onto which DQSD docks stretches from the right of the 'start' button to the left of the tray. Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] error message
At 14:00 14/07/2002 -0500, you wrote: At work I have a Compaq Keyboard that runs some EAB software in the system tray. I believe this software creates hooks that get in the way of DQSD's hooks. I suspect these errors are coming from various keyboard software beating DQSD to the hook. There should be no issue of 'a race to hook' - it's possible for multiple hooks to be installed together. I think the main cause of these errors is a failure of the tools dll to correctly locate the DQSD window. The most recent betas have had a complete rework in this area - it would be worth trying this if you're seeing this kind of error. Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Error on standard search
At 16:16 04/07/2002 +0100, you wrote: Several of the searches that require characters at the start (like mm FK81EF or amaz illuminatus) seem to work just fine, but typing in straight text produces the following error: An error ([objct Error]/Object expected) occurred while trying to run the search goo() I'm not sure where 'goo()' comes from - perhaps an older version? Have you have older copies of DQSD installed on your machine? Do you perhaps have a local preferences file which references this search? I'd suggest a clean installation. I'm using WinXP with all the patches available. Well, I'm using WinXP with some patches that aren't available, and DQSD works OK Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Caffeinated soap. No kidding. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] 'DQSDTools.KeyboardHook - Can't Install Hook' and DEL/UP/DOWN keys
At 12:00 04/07/2002 -0700, you wrote: Same situation here as well. I got the 'Can't Install Hook' error dialog immediately after installing the newest version. I did not uninstall 2.5.7 before installing 3.0, I only closed it and rebooted before installing. I'm using Win98 with IE6. Win-S does not bring focus to DSDQ. I have not altered search.htm in anyway. Could you please try replacing the file DQSDTools.dll with the one from here: http://www.indcomp.co.uk/dqsd/DQSDTools.zip You will need to close DQSD and logout/in (or possibly reboot) before you can overwrite the existing dll. I don't expect that this will work better, but it should offer better diagnostics... Thanks, Will --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Caffeinated soap. No kidding. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] error with beta 13
At 08:07 25/06/2002 -0400, you wrote: I tried that, and I still get the same error message. BTW, I am now at work (where I am also running IE6), and having the exact same problem. Can you try taking a new helpmenu.js from CVS. I wish I knew how you provoked your machines to be so picky! Will --- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar
At 14:12 24/06/2002 +0100, you wrote: Hi; I'm very impressed by the Quick Search bar (as a user and a journalist), but under Windows XP it looks just a little clunky and chunky. Could you give some guidance on editing search.html to spruce it up? You can change the appearance by creating a copy of search.htm called localsearch.css and then editing that. (You ought to make sure you have an up to date version of DQSD.) Of course, you can change anything you want by changing search.htm, but that's really supposed to be the engine room, and any changes you make would be overwritten by an upgrade. What do you mean by 'shallower'? Are you talking about 3d effect, or about the height of the window on the screen? I'd like to be able to make the input box itself shallower (I'm running at 1280x1024 so that taskbar is small); The size of the taskbar doesn't really have much to do with the resolution - it's more to do with system font settings and how high you've dragged it to be. I'd also like to work out how to customise the button by changing the size/font/colour/text colour. Most of that's in the .css file. Have a look at the style for .gobutton. Currently, it uses the system colours for buttons and text, which is the 'proper' way to do it to fit with the current theme - of course there's nothing to stop you changing that... If you can point me in the right direction I'll try to experiment and report back with some screengrabs and suggested setups Cool. Some of us might need a bit of convincing that there's a problem which needs fixing in this regard... If you post a bitmap to the list, can you keep it to a reasonable size. Cheers, Will --- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar
At 12:42 24/06/2002 -0700, you wrote: But it does get overwritten, where is the Upgrade button? :) The installer is _supposed_ not to overwrite it. It will create it as a copy of preferences.js, but only if it doesn't already exist. That's what's meant to happen, anyway. Are you seeing this problem with the most recent beta installation? Will --- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar
At 12:42 24/06/2002 -0700, you wrote: But it does get overwritten, where is the Upgrade button? :) The installer is _supposed_ not to overwrite it. It will create it as a copy of preferences.js, but only if it doesn't already exist. That's what's meant to happen, anyway. Are you seeing this problem with the most recent beta installation? Will --- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar
At 10:47 24/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: You can change the appearance by creating a copy of search.htm called localsearch.css and then editing that. (You ought to make sure you have an up to date version of DQSD.) I'm sure Will means ' ... creating a copy of _search.css_ ... ' I did, sorry. Of course, you can change anything you want by changing search.htm, but that's really supposed to be the engine room, and any changes you make would be overwritten by an upgrade. Again, I'm sure Will means ' ...by changing _search.css_ ... ' I didn't. The OP asked about what she should change in search.htm - I was trying to say that that's the wrong place for appearance stuff. Thanks! Will --- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] customising the look of the deskbar
At 12:56 24/06/2002 -0700, you wrote: PS When is my kickback coming? I've been promoting this thing for months now, no cheques. :) Here, have 50% of my DQSD related earnings. Will --- Sponsored by: ThinkGeek at http://www.ThinkGeek.com/ ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] IE 6 Error with Dave's Quick Search, ver. 2.5.7
At 00:44 15/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: Hello, Can someone help me with an error, or point me in the right direction for help? This is the best direction! I've looked at the code on that line in that version, an I'm not quite sure exactly why you're getting an error, perhaps something's been corrupted in your searches directory. The most recent versions of DQSD have better error handling around this operation, and would give a more helpful message, should an error occur. I would suggest that you upgrade to the most recent beta of 2.5.8 - get it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/dqsd. It's really much, much better than 2.5.7 (I can say that, because there's some of my code in it now... ;-) Bear in mind that you need to disable the search toolbar, log out and then in again, then install the new version. Hope this helps, Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas - http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm?source=osdntextlink ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
[DQSD-Users] Recent problems with beta 9
Dear all, I've made some changes to the DQSDTools dll which may help with the recent 'grey window' problems some people have been seeing. To help those that can't rebuild the DLL from the source code in the CVS repository, I've also added the DLL itself to CVS. Glenn indicated that there may be some problems with the web interface to this (like the file isn't visible to me), but it's there if people want it and can use CVS themselves. Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas - http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm?source=osdntextlink ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] 2.5.8 beta 9
At 10:42 10/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: I see the same problem. I didn't see it after a logoff/logon, only after I had rebooted. I'm not seeing this, but it is the behaviour you get if the window.close() I put in version.js fires. Normally there's a message box displayed first as a warning (under IE6, at least), but I wonder if something's happening during boot to suppress messages from the script. Could you try removing the window.close() from version.js and seeing if the problem still occurs? Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas - http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm?source=osdntextlink ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] 2.5.8 beta 9
At 13:00 10/06/2002 -0300, you wrote: That worked for me. Weired. What version of IE/OS are you using? Are you being given warnings about bad versions? What happens if you do a 'refresh' on DQSD, or enter a ! to restart it? Do you get a warning then? Is the DQSDTools.dll on a 'funny' drive, like a network one, or one which is mapped at login? I can't really see how that window.close gets called without you getting a message before hand - unless some other mechanism is suppressing alerts. Does anyone else have any suggestions on this? Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas - http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm?source=osdntextlink ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] 2.5.8 beta 9
At 12:59 10/06/2002 -0400, you wrote: i had to regsvr32 -u dqsdt258.dll not dqsdtools258.dll Yes sorry, I couldn't remember what it gets called. it acutally seemed to work for one reboot... but a second reboot did not make it. Are you saying it worked _after_ you'd done regsvr32 -u dqsdt258.dll? If so, there's something very strange going on. Doing regsvr32 -u dqsdt258.dll should unregister the tools DLL, which should mean that the next time DQSD starts up (whether by doing toolbar refresh, '1' or rebooting) you get a polite error message about it not being installed correctly. I only suggested it as a test, rather than as a potential remedy. Will -- Will Dean - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-| 4 The Footpath, Harston, Cambridge, CB2 5NS, UK | I N D U S T R I A L | Tel: +44 1223 871646Fax: +44 1223 870914 |computing ltd| http://www.indcomp.co.uk/ | ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas - http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm?source=osdntextlink ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] 2.5.8 beta 9
At 13:06 10/06/2002 -0400, you wrote: should we consider pulling beta 9 for a bit? I don't think so - there's no point in beta-ing it if you don't use the feedback to find the bugs. b8 is available for download if people can't use b9. Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas - http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm?source=osdntextlink ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
[DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it
Hi all, You're all going to love me (not), as I've just checked in a whole load of stuff which (almost) requires a DLL update. (I know not everyone who takes CVS copies can actually build the DLL from the source.) I'm on a mission to try and eliminate all script errors, particularly now I've realised that the error message always quotes search.htm as the file, regardless of the true location - this makes it fantastically difficult for people without script debuggers to offer useful feedback on the errors. To this end, I've made the following changes: Added various bits of exception handling around the place with messageboxes containing sensible (to me) sounding error messages if calls fail. This includes code to catch errors in XML searches (as reported by MLL). The error message in this case is rather techy (it contains the search code), but as this is really to help developers, I think that's OK. Added a new method to ILauncher on DQSDTools.dll which can verify that the DLL is of a specified version. Added a new JS module (version.js) which at startup checks in a controlled fashion that A. the DQSDTools DLL is available and A. that it's the correct version. It's down to anyone creating a dependency between revisions to the DLL and the scripts to bump the version resource _and_ the values in version.js. Cheers, Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] Javascript errors
At 13:09 07/06/2002 +0200, you wrote: Sorry, there was 2 so.xml files attached to my post. anyway, both of them produce the errors described. The next release will contain code which traps these error better. Thanks for providing this example. Cheers, Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it
At 07:46 07/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: One minor thing that I noticed that Dave was pretty insistent about using 2 spaces for indentation (no tabs) in the script files. Well, if he cares that much, he'd better process them all after I check them in (I use textpad (www.textpad.com) for editing script files which makes it very easy to change indentation to spaces.) I'll try and behave in future, but I won't be adding further to my excessively large collection of editors! Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it
At 08:38 07/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: Yeah, thought about that. That's one of the reasons for adding new beta releases. I've had some problems with binaries when trying to pull them from the CVS browser front-end when I checked the googlespell add-on in as a binary. I did think CVS was supposed to do binaries OK, but who knows with these strange unix things? Are we ready for another snapshot (beta) release? I'm up for that. I'd have thought we should be looking at a full release pretty soon and it's a fair while since even the last beta. Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it
At 10:20 07/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: Understood. Here are the guidelines he laid down back when he was working on it... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dqsdd/message/264 Although, I just realized I've been violating the parenthesis rule (no space characters after a ( or before a ).) for a while now. Oh well. Oh well indeed. I'm breaking about half of those rules. Let's see if he backs my code out. Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Now I've really done it
At 11:15 07/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: Absolutely no hurry (right Will? ;) ... just a suggestion No. He must immediately stop what he's doing, and modify the FAQ. When he's done that, he can check the widths of all the tabs in all the code. After that, my lawn needs mowing. I will provide a (blunt) pair of nail scissors for the purpose. Doing a paid job or having a personal life is no route to successful open source zealotry. Sheesh, some people. Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
[DQSD-Users] Thoughts on installation problems
Guys, DQSD is difficult to install. There are a lot of reports of problems, and as far as I can see, they're nearly always caused by a failure to get the right version of the ActiveX DLL installed and registered. There's a whole performance of logout/login which is difficult to get right, doesn't always work properly (depends on platform, I think), and often gives the impression that an upgrade can work without a reboot when it can't. This beta has been particularly bad, because there have been a lot of additions to the ActiveX control, so no version of the beta will load with the previous version's DLL. Here are some things I think we could look at to improve this - I'm not particularly offering to do them _or_ suggesting that someone else should! It's just for discussion. 1. Install script doesn't have uninstall code for the 'current' version (i.e. it deletes DLLs up to the previous version, but not the current one) 2. DLL version number is not being bumped for the beta revision points. This defeats a load of code in the install script which does version comparison. 3. AFAIK, we're not changing Progids/GUIDs on the ActiveX interfaces when we change the interface. We probably should be. 4. How does the installer actually handle installations to locked files? Does it do something like a SetupInstallFileEx which means that a reboot is really required? I see that the script is supposed to warn that the file's not been unloaded, but I've never actually seen that warning appear even though I've had installation failures. 5. We could have some startup code in (or called by) search.htm which did a rather more controlled check of DLL version and displayed something more helpful than having random script errors after the bar has apparently loaded OK. 6. We could have some kind of external (?) diagnostic utility which would report what the current setup actually was and put that onto the clipboard so that people could make better bug reports. What do people think? Maybe I'm the only one who thinks this needs improvement Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] Thoughts on installation problems
At 07:53 06/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: I always thought the DLL version numbers (and file name) were supposed to be incremented each time a version is released. If this is happens, will a file-lock problem exist? A new DLL filename with a new version could be registered and the old in-use one wouldn't get unloaded until a logout/in. This seems ok to me (with my very limited understanding), but I dont think it is working as I described. The problem is that even if it is, you can be in a situation where you have an old DLL loaded but with new script running. I don't think I'm convinced that logout/login is a certain remedy. The version of the DLL is currently 2.5.8.0, and as far as I'm aware, it has been for the whole of the 2.5.8 beta process. I have not tracked changes in GUID/IIDs, but I'm certainly guilty of having extended an interface without changing the IID. I certainly agree that the majority of the problems seem to be related to getting the proper DLL registered and loaded. An improvement in this area could possibly yield a sizable reduction in bug reports... IMO of course.. Well, it's Dave that gets most of the reports - why should we worry... :-) I'm supposedly doing a bit of tidying to the DLL, so I'll think about what we could do to help things. Will -- Will Dean - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-| 4 The Footpath, Harston, Cambridge, CB2 5NS, UK | I N D U S T R I A L | Tel: +44 1223 871646Fax: +44 1223 870914 |computing ltd| http://www.indcomp.co.uk/ | ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] Thoughts on installation problems
At 08:22 06/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: Yeah and this certainly seems to be the cause of the majority of the errors being reported.. But my belief is that if the new DLL has a different version, and the new version is registered, regardless of the loaded state of the old version, then the dll and search versions should match and everything will work... it is a perfect world isnt it? :-) It depends what you mean by 'version'. The DLL has a version resource which is used by the installer. The COM objects have progids and guids which are used indirectly by the scripts. We're using version-independant prog-ids in the scripts at the moment, so there's no link between the COM object version and the script. Registering a DLL doesn't do anything very 'version-ish' - it just connections the Prog-id to a GUID to a file name/location. If the file name/location hasn't changed, then the script won't do anything different. For me, the logout/in works every time at home and the office... I have never had a problem installing a new version where anything more than a logout/in was required.. I did however observe a problem on a relatives machine recently where the logout/in didnt do the job. I think some OS dependencies are at play.. She was running Win98 and I am running Win2k... I think that's a big difference. I don't think that Explorer (which is the process into which our DLL gets loaded) is unloaded/reloaded during the Win9x logout/login sequence. Ideally we'd find some progmatic way to get Explorer to unload the DLL. Then we could invoke this during installation, and everything would be wonderful... If I remember right we actually did an uninstall/reboot/install to get things cleaned up properly... It might well be that the installer ought to insist (well, nearly) on this in certain circumstances. Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] Thoughts on installation problems
At 09:07 06/06/2002 -0500, you wrote: Agreed. Largely my fault I'm afraid. Well, you've added a new class, but I've added several methods to the existing ones, so I reckon we're about equal here Have you had success with this? My experience has been a maintenance nightmare. Not to say it isn't the correct thing to do. Everything to do with versioning is a nightmare! The situation in which we'd get an advantage (only if we switched to version-dependant prog-ids in the script) is where the DQSD DLL changed name (so that there was not problem with an overwrite), and the GUIDs/prog-IDs all changed as well. That way the new script would pick up the new DLL, and the old one would get unloaded at the next boot. I've just been investigating forcing Explorer.exe to unload the DQSD tools. I've been as far as forcing CoFreeUnusedLibraries to run within Explorer.exe, but it's still not enough to unload us. That's a disappointment. Stopping and restarting Explorer.exe is a possibility, but you can risk losing recent config, etc it you're not careful. Don't know. It should do something in the case of locked files. I assumed NSIS did something with the runonce registry entry in the case of locked files, but I've never looked into it. It probably is doing it - most people's problems seem to be fixed by a reboot - it just doesn't seem to report that a reboot is needed to the user. Probably decent diagnostics and messaging in the script is all that's really needed. Cheers, Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] [ dqsd-Bugs-565037 ] Delete key/Old-style paste doesn't work
At 13:50 05/06/2002 -0700, you wrote: 2.5.8 Beta A bit of expansion on that would be helpful. 1. Delete key doesn't delete (backspace works) 2. Old-Style paste commands (Shift-insert, Shift- delete, etc.) do not work, Ctl-V, Ctl-C do work. Both these have been fixed in current betas. I would expect that if they don't work, you'd be getting script errors as the search bar started up. Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] Paste in the textbox
At 17:15 03/06/2002 +0200, you wrote: Sure. Done. Thank God copy-paste works ;) I looked at this cursor positioning thing when I was working on the keyboard stuff, and the person who originally did the ctrl-v paste code did the right thing with the range.collapse(false). It's just that it doesn't seem to work in all circumstances. If someone works out what the circumstances are, it might be possible to find a work-around. Will ___ Don't miss the 2002 Sprint PCS Application Developer's Conference August 25-28 in Las Vegas -- http://devcon.sprintpcs.com/adp/index.cfm ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
Re: [DQSD-Users] [ dqsd-Feature Requests-548658 ] Tooltip search description on menu items
At 14:25 01/05/2002 -0700, you wrote: Will, Any chance you might want to take a crack at this? I think I probably need to create a window to handle the tooltip control request. Funny enough, I have a completely broken dqsdtools here as a result of playing with this one. I've always found the tooltip stuff to be totally counterintuitive, so this will be an ideal educational challenge for me. I have various other stuff on for the next 10 days or so, but if you want to assign it to me, that's fine. If it wasn't treading on anyone's toes, I might have a bit of a move around in dqsdtools, to create some kind of utility object/module which contained things like: A single routine for finding the dqsd window - both you and I have done our own implementation of this at the moment, and it's needed again by the tooltip stuff. A single (hidden) window to handle stuff like the shortcut notification, pop-up menu notification, tooltip parentage (?), etc. Anything else I think could be a general resource to people writing bits of dqsdtools. Cheers, Will ___ Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply the hardware. You get the recognition. Email Us: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] FW: DQSD 2.58b5
At 11:28 30/04/2002 +0200, you wrote: My 0.02 : c, d e are symptoms of an explorer.exe crash auto restart : when this occurs, some tray icons diseappear until relog. I won't offer any of the hated and nearly-worthless Euros, but this sounds right to me, too. If anyone's interested, the reason that some applications lose their tray icons and some don't is because only some software authors bother to implement the mechanism for restoring an icon if Explorer crashes. It seems just possible to me that our DQSDTool.dll could crash Explorer - I did think that Explorer was protected against this kind of problem, but DQSDTools _is_ in-process in explorer.exe, so it's just about conceivable. If the original crash message had any more detail, I'd be interested to see it. Cheers, Will ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id01
RE: [DQSD-Users] run command in 2.5.8 beta 4
At 17:46 24/04/2002 -0700, you wrote: I just tried to install MS VS6, but my copy of win2k is acting very strange and it won't start the 16-bit environment for it to run in. Would you be so kind as to send a copy of your recompiled DLL to the list so that I can try your new code? Every time I start the toolbar now I get an error because it is trying to call functions that don't exist. I've put it at http://www.indcomp.co.uk/dqsd/DQSDTools.zip Cheers, Will -- Will Dean - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |-| 4 The Footpath, Harston, Cambridge, CB2 5NS, UK | I N D U S T R I A L | Tel: +44 1223 871646Fax: +44 1223 870914 |computing ltd| http://www.indcomp.co.uk/ | ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users
