Actually the KP1-KP5 guys got the Congress involved last fall in a great
attempt to get the FWS to open up KP1 and KP5.
In fact, it was Rep. Rahall who was the sponsor of H.R.
1183.
Whoever has his ear obviously contributed big time to the Club Fed
report. It was very critical of the FWS for
Well Chuck it did give us a BLACK
EYE because it got the U.S. Congress evolved.
Rod WC7N
- Original Message -
From:
Chuck Degard
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 5:04
PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] KP5
I've been reading everyone's t
I've been reading everyone's thoughts on this subject and the
picture is that none of us know the real story regarding the operation. Probably
never will.
I don't understand the comments "that this has given us a
black eye".
The way I see it, that two guys asked for permission, it was
06 7:51
PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 cards
That was my point. Anything made easier loses its value when the
struggle produces the reward. There are many "New Ones" that I can't
even remember making the QSO, but I sure as heck remember the hassles,
challenge, tr
What a great attitude.
By it's very nature, technology makes things easier. It's called
progress and according the the Amateur's Code, we are supposed to be
progressive. That's why we use selective, stable radios- with efficient
amplifiers and low noise floors. But I guess since you don't wan
That was my point. Anything made easier loses its value when the struggle produces the reward. There are many "New Ones" that I can't even remember making the QSO, but I sure as heck remember the hassles, challenge, tribulations (and disappointments) getting (or not getting) the cards and t
.
73, Jerry K3BZ
- Original Message -
From: "Zack Widup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 cards
LotW is just not the same as having a card in front of you that you can
hold, put on the wall, etc.
I suppose
LotW is just not the same as having a card in front of you that you can
hold, put on the wall, etc.
I suppose for the "instant gratification" generation it's the thing, but I
still like to have my cards. And I prefer to read a good book printed on
paper instead of reading the PDF version on
Sure beats LOTW, doesn't it
-- Original message from john <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: -- > Mine too! Very nice! > John K5MO > > Zack Widup wrote: > >Jose E. Ribeiro Sa wrote: > > > ...all we need now are the QSL cards... > > > >Just got mine today! They are coming out.
Mine too! Very nice!
John K5MO
At 06:57 PM 3/16/2006, Zack Widup wrote:
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Jose E. Ribeiro Sa wrote:
>
> About this KP5 operation Iam only glad (as the rest of the world) DXCC
> accepted it and all we need now are the QSL cards...
>
Just got mine today! They are coming out.
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Jose E. Ribeiro Sa wrote:
>
> About this KP5 operation Iam only glad (as the rest of the world) DXCC
> accepted it and all we need now are the QSL cards...
>
Just got mine today! They are coming out. Very nice card.
73, Zack W9SZ
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Come on guys...
Enough of this, I don't even want to hear people
saying that about
Bernie.
Bernie W3UR is an honored decent human being and a
great person
I might add, believe me I know what I say as we met
in East-Timor 4W
some years ago.
About this KP5 operation Iam only glad (as the rest
I am not a lawyer and I don't play one on TV...but it seems to me the burden
of proof in our legal system falls to the accuser, along the lines of
"you're innocent until proven guilty." Everyone against the ARRL decision
to accept P5 and now KP5 goes to great length to cite chapter and verse from
eld any of the documents
that you refer to)
Best regards
Don
AC7ZG
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of N7MALSent:
Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:08 PMTo: Zack Widup; DX
ChatSubject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents
I've been doing a lot o
t worthy of the
space on the chat page.
73 Norm K1AA
- Original Message -
From: "Zack Widup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "DX Chat"
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:24 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, N7MAL wrote:
I've been
Boy, this KP5 thing seems to be generating a lot of QRM. And,
for what? This is a hobby guys! No one will get even a slice of bread with it or
have one taken away because of it. The world will continue to
rotate.
I've heard no one say "I'm not going to submit my card until
I see the docume
At 12:08 AM 3/16/2006, N7MAL wrote:
Please don't tell me I can see the documents in Bernie's rag, I pay my
dues to the ARRL not W3UR.
73
And because of that you value one over the other?
John K5MO
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On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote:
> Whoa! Strange is a word & a half for this!
>
> And with all due respect to Simon, I would sure like to know a little bit
> more about who sent what emails to whom before I start trashing Bernie and
> his reputation.
>
> Who sent the emails?
> Wh
On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, N7MAL wrote:
> I've been doing a lot of searching through Gov't documents, which are
> accessible through the internet. It substantiated some very interesting,
> although well known, information. Amateur Radio is expressly prohibited
> on KP5 islands. Those of you who were
world coming to an end today.It's already
tomorrow in Australia
- Original
Message -----
From: Zack Widup
To: DX
Chat
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 5:11
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, N7MAL
wrote:> Forgive me for asking a stupi
he gets caught,
it's his problem), for him to smear Bernie like this without further proof is
uncalled for.
73,
ron wn3vaw
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of AC4NU FredSent:
Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:50 PMTo:
dx-chat@njd
Evening...been followng this for a while.I'm no detective expert or nothing but something smells here and smells bad. I followed the link Marty (or is it Paul) wrote about, to the ZD9 station. Looks like Bernie W3UR from the Daily DX supposedly pulled the identical stunt on this guy on ZD9 that som
-Original Message-
Actually, according to information posted on Bernie's Daily DX site, it
was not "some bureaocrat/political appointee," but rather a licensed
amateur who complained to his congressperson, who then complained to the
FWS.
So, it is a licensed amateur, motivated by reasons kn
Navassa! Desecheo can wait. Navassa!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of petethepup
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:18 AM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents
>On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, N7MAL wrote:
> > Forgi
From: "Zack Widup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:58 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
Another question: how does a random licensed amateur cause the operation
to
be prematurely terminated? A Freedom of Informat
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, N7MAL wrote:
> Forgive me for asking a stupid question and throwing water on
> everyone's parade but has anyone published a copy of the documents,
> signed by F&W, authorizing the KP5 operation...???...
I have never seen ANY documents published showing that any given
DXpedi
Please take a look on my opinion, being someone of the outside world than
USA.
Freedom Act, for example, goes in the same direction of public opinion's
will: to know more in order to feed his own opinion.
Get a poll, and see how many people wants to know the FULL story.
Is ham radio a world apa
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006, N7MAL wrote:
> Forgive me for asking a stupid question and throwing water on
> everyone's parade but has anyone published a copy of the documents,
> signed by F&W, authorizing the KP5 operation...???...
I have never seen ANY documents published showing that any given
DXped
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Dave AA6YQ wrote:
> Another question: how does a random licensed amateur cause the operation to
> be prematurely terminated? A Freedom of Information Act query into the
> agency that implemented the termination might yield a clue or two.
>
>73,
>
>Dave, AA6YQ
>
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Peter Penta wrote:
> Whats done is done, no one can do anything about it so it's a closed story.
> DONE. No one likes what happened , just have to put it in the past.
>
> 73 Pete
You could say that about the JFK assassination, too. However, there a
D]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of N7MALSent:
Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:48 PMTo: DX ChatSubject:
[DX-CHAT] KP5 Documents
Forgive me for asking a stupid question and throwing water
on everyone's parade but has anyone published a copy of the documents, signed
by F&W, author
What "nasty rhetoric?" There is quite a bit of innuendo going back and
forth, but no nasty rhetoric. I suppose if I had called my Congressman
asking to shut down the operation, I might be sweating a little, but I
don't think anyone considers anything that's been said here "nasty
rhetoric."
Wh
Fellow DXers:
Having been a newspaper reporter covering law enforcement for 20+ years
I can tell you whoever this is will spill the beans so to speak
eventually. People just like to brag. I've written about 100's of
cases where it wasn't necessarily good police work that solved it
(although
I'm betting he needs something besides KP5 for the top of the honor roll
and called his congressman to make sure no one passes him on the honor
roll. That or he had an expedition planned and he doesn't want anyone
stealing his thunder. Some hams are shallow and pathetic, so neither of
these sce
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Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:44
PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
The schmuck should be punished. It seems pretty obvious
to me that it was someone else who was wanting to go, but didn't have the
right connections to get approval. Then, in a selfish, sour grapes mo
It is sad that a simple but clear statement of the recent KP5 operation can
not just be published, apparently. Full disclosure will make everyone sit
easier.
However, after being somewhat involved in operations in XW, VU4, 9N, A5, and
so on, I also know that sometimes nothing can be said with
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Of Gary McClellan
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:03 PM
Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
Peter, sorry - NO we don't. I want to know WHY what was done WAS done.
Open story.
73, Gary K7ZD
Peter Penta wrote:
Whats done is done, no one can do
Peteperhaps you know something?
NF4A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Gary McClellan
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 7:03 PM
Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
Peter, sorry - NO we don't. I want to know WHY wha
: 'Ron Notarius WN3VAW'; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
Whats done is done, no one can do anything about it so it's a closed story.
DONE. No one likes what happened , just have to put it in the past.
73 Pete
-Original Message---
I agree. Not to punish the schmuck per se, but to make sure that this type
of stunt doesn't happen again.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Gary McClellan
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:03 PM
Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT
73 Pete
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Ron Notarius WN3VAW
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:21 PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
And now the thread has gone full circle, as we've come right back to where
we
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Ron Notarius WN3VAW
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:21 PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
And now the thread has gone full circle, as we've come right back to where
we started...
The question remains, though, as to WHY this schmuck did what
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:21 PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
And now the thread has gone full circle, as we've come right back to where
we started...
The question remains, though, as to WHY this schmuck did what they did.
73
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL
006 4:57 PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
Actually, according to information posted on Bernie's Daily DX site, it
was not "some bureaocrat/political appointee," but rather a licensed
amateur who complained to his congressperson, who then complained to the
FWS.
Actually, according to information posted on Bernie's Daily DX site, it
was not "some bureaocrat/political appointee," but rather a licensed
amateur who complained to his congressperson, who then complained to the
FWS.
So, it is a licensed amateur, motivated by reasons known only to him/her
a
PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
The Daily DX has had an "exclusive" on this story since it was published a
couple of weeks ago. I assume that Bernie W3UR or the author will publish
the
information "to the world" shortly. In the mean time, speculation is
Jim Reisert AD1C wrote:
The Daily DX has had an "exclusive" on this story since it was published a
couple of weeks ago. I assume that Bernie W3UR or the author will publish the
information "to the world" shortly. In the mean time, speculation is just
that.
73 - Jim AD1C (a Daily DX subscriber)
The Daily DX has had an "exclusive" on this story since it was published a
couple of weeks ago. I assume that Bernie W3UR or the author will publish the
information "to the world" shortly. In the mean time, speculation is just
that.
73 - Jim AD1C (a Daily DX subscriber)
--
Jim Reisert AD1C, 7
]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:16 AM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
Well, it seems the order from on high for KP5 to QRT has
been dismissed as "one of those things". Those who worked
them will get the card - myself included.
But my inquiring mind still wants to know who took i
At 12:35 03/14/06, Gary McClellan wrote:
I say, git out the hangin' rope and let's have a good old necktie
party at Scaffold (er. Scarborough) Reef at high-noon!!! :-)
Appropriate Clint Eastwood music playing in the background..
Naw, better stillleave HIM on Desecheo, sans-radio/operating
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Of petethepup
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:16 AM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-CHAT] KP5 ?
Well, it seems the order from on high for KP5 to QRT has
been dismissed as "one of those things". Those who worked
them will get the card - myse
let it go. And try to ensure that
there is a next time, and that something like this won't happen the next
time.
73, ron wn3vaw
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of petethepup
Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:16 AM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject:
Well, it seems the order from on high for KP5 to QRT has
been dismissed as "one of those things". Those who worked
them will get the card - myself included.
But my inquiring mind still wants to know who took it
upon them self to decide that KP5 should be cut short.
Rich, N8UX.
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Apparently there are no on-line logs for this one.
I did find a photo with more promised:
http://www.k3lp.com/k3lp_kp5.htm
73, Zack W9SZ
On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi all dx'ers
>
> Any log online of KP5/N3KS ?
>
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http://n
Hi all dx'ers
Any log online of KP5/N3KS ?
73 Laurent f8bbl
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2006 8:18
AM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] KP5 Approved
The 3C0V operation had all the necessary documentation and we're also
asked to leave. That operation didn't have a problem acquiring DXCC
approval. If the ops from KP5 had the prop
The 3C0V operation had all the necessary documentation and we're also asked
to leave. That operation didn't have a problem acquiring DXCC
approval. If the ops from KP5 had the proper paperwork to operate from
there, then the operation should be valid for DXCC.
73,
Pete N2LM
Any info about last DXPN on KP5 ???
OR We can treat this one same as 7O & P5 areas !?!?!
Stay Tuned on SIX !!!
73,GL&DX!!! de: MOME - Z32ZM
http://www.qsl.net/z32zm
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From: Bernie McClenny <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Joel Magi
I can still recall working one of the (if not the) last KP5/KP2A DXpeditions
to Desecheo... the pileups tended to be big, but I was still able to get
them on three bands.
Working a rare one on several bands in ones backyard is not too difficult I
guess. hi
73 MX Rag la5he
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I can still recall working one of the (if not the) last KP5/KP2A DXpeditions
to Desecheo... the pileups tended to be big, but I was still able to get
them on three bands.
Near the end of the DXpedition, I heard them calling CQ on 10 -- with no
takers -- early one morning. Obviously the band had j
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], mausoptik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
'w2agn' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, dx-chat@njdxa.org
>Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues?
>Tom,
>
>Something sounds wrong here .. It will be interesting to hear what they
>have to say.
>
>Joel,
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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues?
One of the last things K3LP said before pulling the plug was he would have a
lot to tell once he got back. As he was going QRT he was saying "they're
standing right behind me now." and then silence.
He also asked that e
: Sat Dec 17 13:54:03 CST 2005
>To: 'w2agn' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], dx-chat@njdxa.org
>Subject: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues?
>Has anyone heard any more news about what happened? If there was permission
>granted from the bureaucrats how come they got told to QRT and g
5 2:54 PM
To: 'w2agn'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-CHAT] KP5 issues?
Has anyone heard any more news about what happened? If there was permission
granted from the bureaucrats how come they got told to QRT and got hauled
off the island? What was the law suit about?
In a message dated 12/17/2005 8:58:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Isn't it amazing that people actually worked DX...
No Urb, you didn't miss anything. It's the people that not only want but expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter that missed something.
Jim writes: " How did we ever work DX *before* packet? "
You know how we did..with paper logs, finding the right spot by hunting
and a lot of patience.
Looks like our push button culture has moved in on the DX scene.
73Norm K1AA
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ht
Has anyone heard any more news about what happened? If there was permission
granted from the bureaucrats how come they got told to QRT and got hauled
off the island? What was the law suit about?
Let's hope this isn't another 7O1YGF.
Dave G0OIL
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Larry, K4WLS wrote:
From: "Urb LeJeune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:51 AM to [DX-Chat]
Isn't it amazing that people actually worked DX, and sometimes made the
honor roll after years of hard work, before computers, clusters, and spots?
Did I miss something (I am gett
From: "Urb LeJeune" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:51 AM to [DX-Chat]
Isn't it amazing that people actually worked DX, and sometimes made the
honor roll after years of hard work, before computers, clusters, and spots?
Did I miss something (I am getting old) where it was d
To the Operators on KP5 you gave the folks a very special XMAS present this year. You did a FANTASTIC JOB. The signals were strong and consistent each time I heard them. I believe all will applaud your efforts. If you didn't work them let's hope there will be a returned trip so others ca
Folks,
This thread is starting to degenerate to a level below this reflector's
standards.
If we can't return to the primary topic of the thread... that of the KP5
operation due to be terminated by bureacratic action sometime today, as soon
as weather permits... then the thread will have to closed
arlier.
73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Osten B Magnusson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
Osten B Magnusson writes:
Now, if all Americans just were to learn in school that there
is a continent called Europe also! The KP5-operators don't
know it yet!
Now you know how NA/SA feel when Europe monopolizes the pile-ups
for 1A, HV0 and much of the rare
Osten B Magnusson writes:
> Now, if all Americans just were to learn in school that there
> is a continent called Europe also! The KP5-operators don't
> know it yet!
K3LP/KP5 spent considerable amount of time trying to work Europe
in 17 meters this morning and gave up in disgust because of all
t;Osten B Magnusson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; ; "Jim Reisert
AD1C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
Hi Osten,
That is not fair!! I am listing to them call Europe as I type!!
Bill W4WX
- Original Messag
Hi Osten,
That is not fair!! I am listing to them call Europe as I type!!
Bill W4WX
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From: "Osten B Magnusson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: ; "Jim Reisert AD1C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:39 AM
Subject: Re
also! The KP5-operators don't
know it yet!
73 de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Reisert AD1C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:13 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
At 11:37 PM 12/16/200
At 11:37 PM 12/16/2005, Kurt W. Zimmerman W2MW wrote:
Just an FYI... I'm not impressed with the CW operation especially on 30m.
Spots were poor on the cluster and there was no idea where he was listening.
I sensed from quite a number of CW operators on the cluster their same
frustration spending
Isn't it amazing that people actually worked DX, and sometimes made the
honor roll after years of hard work, before computers, clusters, and spots?
Did I miss something (I am getting old) where it was decreed that working
DX should be easy, lack of skill not withstanding?
There is a fundamental
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Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] KP5 QRT Saturday a.m.
This is the first time I have ever heard of "poor spots". This is
unbelievable!!! These guys taking their time, money, etc and staying up
for hours without sleep in a tent at 120 degrees
This is the first time I have ever heard of "poor spots". This is
unbelievable!!! These guys taking their time, money, etc and staying up for
hours without sleep in a tent at 120 degrees and you complaining about the
quality of the THEIR operation... You should be ashamed of yourself...
I,
K3LP is operating right now on 40m SSB. His rate could easily double if ONLY
the station he went back to responded. Instead, dozens of people keep calling
on the same frequency, preventing him from completing the QSO.
Nothing new, but still sad.
73 - Jim AD1C
-- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemo
Mac you should have notice I didn't provide any commets. I just reported
what he, or one of his aids, said.
Rod WC7N
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From: "Mac" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "DX-CHAT"
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 6:09 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] KP5
Received an E-Mail from Peter DeFazio and the following is an excerpt from
it.
"For some reason, Chairman Pombo dropped his support for H.R. 298, so Mr.
Rahall removed the Farallon Islands from the provisions in the bill and
reintroduced it as H.R. 1183. So, the bills only differ in that the new
Received an E-Mail from Peter DeFazio and the following is an excerpt from
it.
"For some reason, Chairman Pombo dropped his support for H.R. 298, so Mr.
Rahall removed the Farallon Islands from the provisions in the bill and
reintroduced it as H.R. 1183. So, the bills only differ in that the
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