[Elecraft] K3 Diversity Question: RIT

2021-04-09 Thread w4sc
Tom, I saw your post in Feb. Did you resolve your issue? De Ben W4SC Sent from Mail for Windows 10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity Question: RIT

2021-02-26 Thread Randy Farmer
It occurred to me that might be the case after I sent the message. I'm a die-hard contester and have the tendency to view things through that filter. It's easy enough to simply re-tune the receiver when necessary to return to your transmit frequency, pretty much exactly like you'd have to do

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity Question: RIT

2021-02-26 Thread Ed K1EP
Yes, you have to lock the VFOs. That is a menu only (or macro). What I have done is to program a macro into PF1 that does A->B, lock VFO, Turn on Diversity. RIT works fine, both RX track. On Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 20:16 Tom Doligalski via Elecraft < elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote: > I’ve

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity Question: RIT

2021-02-25 Thread Randy Farmer
I don't know which contest software package you may be using. If you're running N1MM+ Logger the solution to this dilemma is to equalize the A and B VFOs at the beginning of the run and then turn on Split mode. Then your transmitter will be locked to the VFO B frequency and the receiver can be

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity Question: RIT

2021-02-25 Thread Tom Doligalski via Elecraft
I’ve rediscovered Diversity RX on my K3, and have a question. Scenario: I’m working folks on 40M CW with a bit of QSB. Diversity is on, and things are working great. Suddenly I receive an off-frequency call, say up a couple hundred Hz. Normally no trouble, as I just use my trusty RIT control

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX question

2020-08-03 Thread Dale Boresz
Jim, With BOTH 'Split' and 'Diversity' engaged, you will only be able to listen to VFO-A, although VBO-B WILL be your transmit frequency. In other words, you will be listening to the DX on VFO-A with full benefits of Diversity. However, you can press and hold the "REV" button on the K3 which will

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX question

2020-08-03 Thread Jim Miller
Thanks! Jim ab3cv On Mon, Aug 3, 2020 at 5:30 PM Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP wrote: > Yes. When you use diversity you are actually not using the VFO B > synthesizer for the second rx. They are both fed from synth A. VFO B > remains available for transmitting. > I do this all the time. > > 73, >

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX question

2020-08-03 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
Yes. When you use diversity you are actually not using the VFO B synthesizer for the second rx. They are both fed from synth A. VFO B remains available for transmitting. I do this all the time. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ . On

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX question

2020-08-03 Thread Jim Miller
When using diversity what happens to the ability to do Split on the K3? Can I still listen to the pileup on VFO B and transmit on the VFO B frequency? Thanks jim ab3cv __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX

2016-05-06 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Ben, Full tracking (freq, mode, filter etc) is enabled with diversity on. Frequency tracking alone and leave the rest open, that is in the menu: config: VFO LINK I use them both under different circumstances, but that is not what you are asking. 73 Arie PA3A Op 6-5-2016 om 15:50

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity RX

2016-05-06 Thread w4sc
Retired now, so more time to "play radio." Questions about Filter selection / Shift / Low-Hi Cut / Width control when K3 is in diversity mode. Does the KRX3 track these main RX settings when diversity is enabled? Can this "tracking" be disabled if it is enabled by default? Look in archives

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity reception

2016-03-08 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
Just an unsolicited tribute to the K3's diversity feature. I had been trying to work 8R1/K9XK in Guyana for a few days without success. Although I usually do OK with that part of the world, he's been too deep in the noise. I finally caught the propagation on 17 meters this afternoon and could

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity Audio Equalizer question / clarification

2015-08-24 Thread ae4pb
Reading the manual I see there's an audio equalizer feature to tune the audio to our liking. Is it possible when using subrx to independently adjust the equalizer for each ear? I ask because I have some hearing loss at some frequencies from my time in the Navy. As a result, sounds are often

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity Audio Equalizer question / clarification

2015-08-24 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Jerry, That's an interesting question. You can vary the volume of each receiver but the settings you make in RX EQ apply to both receivers. 73, Mike K2MK ae4pb wrote Reading the manual I see there's an audio equalizer feature to tune the audio to our liking. Is it possible when using

Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

2015-05-27 Thread David Cole
be interesting to see if that feature could be added. Original message From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com Date: 05/26/2015 8:26 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Tony McRae a...@ttecs.com.au, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

2015-05-27 Thread Alan
The suggestion is to use the two identical receivers in the K3 to null noise and interference. The idea is to connect each receiver to a different antenna so the signals arrive with different phases. The phase difference will generally be different for the desired signal and the interference

Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

2015-05-26 Thread Don Wilhelm
Tony, You are looking at information about how to compensate two unequal receivers for true diversity reception - two orthogonally opposed antennas receiving the same signal. The K3 makes that easy with a sub-receiver that is identical with the main receiver and they are phase locked together

Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

2015-05-26 Thread Harry Yingst via Elecraft
It would be interesting to see if that feature could be added. Original message From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com Date: 05/26/2015 8:26 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Tony McRae a...@ttecs.com.au, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

2015-05-26 Thread d...@lightstream.net
Tony, I strongly recommend the DX Engineering NCC-1 for noise cancellation: http://www.dxengineering.com/parts/dxe-ncc-1 It is very effective at nulling out offending noise sources -- BUT, it will do so for only one source at a time. You may find that nulling out one of your sources will

Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

2015-05-26 Thread Matt Maguire
. Original message From: Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com Date: 05/26/2015 8:26 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Tony McRae a...@ttecs.com.au, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction Tony, You are looking at information about how to compensate two unequal

Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

2015-05-26 Thread David Gilbert
PM (GMT-05:00) To: Tony McRae a...@ttecs.com.au, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction Tony, You are looking at information about how to compensate two unequal receivers for true diversity reception - two orthogonally opposed antennas receiving

Re: [Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

2015-05-26 Thread David Woolley
This is normally done ahead of the aerial input and will work with any receiver that supports such an input. Effectively what you are doing is creating a null in the antenna pattern in the direction of the source. It needs an effective point source to work well. If the signal is getting

[Elecraft] K3, diversity and noise reduction

2015-05-25 Thread Tony McRae
I have been watching some youtube clips showing how by adjusting the phase and amplitude of two received signals on a diversity receiver local noise can be reduced by more than 20db. This would be particularly useful to me as I have the dirtiest plasma TV on one side of me and a gaggle of

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity VFO Linking

2015-03-24 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Press and hold SUB to enter diversity and just use Main VFO .. both main and sub RX are using main vfo and the sub VFO and freq readout does nothing other than a split TX freq? Correct - both receivers are using VFO A and VFO B is only used for split. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 2015-03-24

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity VFO Linking

2015-03-24 Thread Cady, Fred
-Original Message- From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Monday, March 23, 2015 10:32 PM To: James Balls Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity VFO Linking On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:21 PM, James Balls

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity VFO Linking

2015-03-23 Thread James Balls
So SUB VFO does nothing in diversity mode? Press and hold SUB to enter diversity and just use Main VFO .. both main and sub RX are using main vfo and the sub VFO and freq readout does nothing other than a split TX freq? Is this right? Jim M0CKE On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 03:52:09 -, Nr4c

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity VFO Linking

2015-03-23 Thread James Balls
Having just completed the Russian DX contest, our run station has 2 antenna and listens in 2 directions, we use diversity but it is very annoying to have to keep re engaging VFO LINK in the menu every band change .. Could VFO Link have 3 options OFF ON PERM PERM meaning VFO A and VFO B in

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity VFO Linking

2015-03-23 Thread Wayne Burdick
On Mar 23, 2015, at 9:21 PM, James Balls makid...@gmail.com wrote: So SUB VFO does nothing in diversity mode? Even in diversity mode, VFO B can be used as the transmit frequency during split. But in diversity mode, the main and sub receivers both use VFO A's frequency. Wayne Press and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity VFO Linking

2015-03-23 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Actually in PERM mode it would be good that when the SUB is held and Diversity is enabled that the mode freq etc is copied from A to B automatically. There is no need to copy A-B when engaging diversity. Diversity uses VFO A (the same synthesizer) for both receivers - it is not simple

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity on 160m?

2015-02-19 Thread Jim Miller
Thanks for all the input. I'll do the necessary cabling and give this a try. Thanks! jim ab3cv On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 7:17 PM, Jim Miller j...@jtmiller.com wrote: What are folks using for their two antennas to provide improved reception on 160m? I have a recently installed 2 element

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity on 160m?

2015-02-18 Thread Vic Rosenthal 4X6GP/K2VCO
I am very happy with my Pixel Loop receive antenna. You could mount one horizontally (basketball-hoop style) to get horizontal polarization. On 18 Feb 2015 02:17, Jim Miller wrote: What are folks using for their two antennas to provide improved reception on 160m? I have a recently installed 2

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity on 160m?

2015-02-18 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Jim, On 160m For TX: 5/8 wave inverted L For diversity RX: RX-4-square 73 Arie PA3A Jim Miller schreef op 18-2-2015 om 1:17: What are folks using for their two antennas to provide improved reception on 160m? I have a recently installed 2 element vertical RX array and thought the next step

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity on 160m?

2015-02-17 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue,2/17/2015 4:17 PM, Jim Miller wrote: What are folks using for their two antennas to provide improved reception on 160m? I'd guess as many options as there are stations. :) It all depends on what is available. Remember that one of the major reasons for diversity is that the

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity on 160m?

2015-02-17 Thread Jim Miller
What are folks using for their two antennas to provide improved reception on 160m? I have a recently installed 2 element vertical RX array and thought the next step would be trying diversity but not clear that my only other 160 antenna (inverted L) would be sufficiently different to be of use.

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity with 2 RX antennas

2014-05-22 Thread Ken Widelitz
How would I set up the K3 in diversity mode with two different RX only antennas? One to the RX antenna and one to the AUX RF? Would going into diversity mode with that setup get me one RX antenna in one ear and the other RX antenna in the other? 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity with 2 RX antennas

2014-05-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ken, Yes, that is how you would set it up - you need to select RX ANT for both the ain and the SUB. And yes, you hear what is on the main in one ear and what is on the SubRX in the other ear (unless you mix them with the L-MIX-R settings in the CONFIG menu). 73, Don W3FPR On 5/22/2014

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity with 2 RX antennas

2014-05-22 Thread d...@lightstream.net
Ken, Yes, that is exactly the way to do it, and that still allows you to transmit through the main antenna. So in other words, you would select RX ANT for the main receiver, and be sure to select the AUX input for the sub-receiver (while b SET is engaged, tap the ANT button on the K3 to alternate

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity with 2 RX antennas

2014-05-22 Thread Oliver Dröse
No. You need to select RX ANT on one RX and AUX on the other RX. Otherwise you will hear the same signal in both ears, namely that of the RX ANT input. ;-) 73, Olli - DH8BQA Contest, DX radio projects: http://www.dh8bqa.de Am 22.05.2014 14:15, schrieb Don Wilhelm: Ken, Yes, that is how

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity antenna experiences?

2013-12-11 Thread Barry N1EU
Jim AB3CV wrote At this point my primary interest is 160m diversity implementations. Any suggestions based on experience with an inverted L and beverage? Jim, the inverted L plus Beverage should be an excellent combination while using stereo diversity. That's exactly what I used in ARRL160.

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity antenna experiences?

2013-12-11 Thread W0FK
Alan, how do you float your L? My L is relatively close to my receiving antennas, and I'd like to try that out and see if it makes a difference. 73, Lou, W0FK ai2n wrote Additionally, you may want to float or detune your inverted L during rx, especially if your rx antennas are close. My tx

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity antenna experiences?

2013-12-11 Thread ai2n
I just disconnect the L from the coax center conductor AND the beta match coil using a heavy duty open frame relay. Works for me. Make sure the relay contacts get closed before the tx RF arrives. I use K6XX's relay accelerator http://members.cruzio.com/~k6xx/radio/fastrely.pdf 73, Redd

[Elecraft] [K3] Diversity antenna experiences?

2013-12-08 Thread Jim Miller
I put up an inverted L for the 160 contest and as expected my beverages did a nice job of improving the receive performance over it. The inverted L did a good job of spraying my 500w watts around and I'm satisfied with it as well. Best LOTW confirmed DX so far is Ukraine. Not bad for the first few

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity antenna experiences?

2013-12-08 Thread Craig Smith
Sounds like a fairly good experience overall, Jim. I'm on an even smaller ( 0.25 acre) HOA restricted lot and had an inverted L on 160 that I used in conjunction with a K9AY receive antenna. I really liked the K9AY, as it allowed for directional switching and very good S/N ratios with a

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity antenna experiences?

2013-12-08 Thread Ken Widelitz
I recently installed the new Shared Apex Loop Array from Array Solutions. While I installed the 20' model, the 12' model has a much smaller footprint. The 20' model works amazingly well and the specs show the 12' model doesn't give up much. 73, Ken, K6LA / VY2TT

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity antenna experiences?

2013-12-08 Thread ai2n
Hi Jim. I also am on a small (125' square) lot, in the city. I have been using BOGs and 14'x29' Flags, with an 80 meter inverted L base-loaded for 160. This year I added a 20' Shared Apex Loop Array. Yes, my antennas are too close to each other. The SALA routinely outperforms the Flags.

[Elecraft] K3 - diversity mode running split

2013-08-12 Thread Robert Fanfant
All, Apologize if this question has been asked before. When handling pileups, I've always used the following setup and it truly works FB - run split, lock the TX frequency, and use the main VFO to listen up/down for stations. Over the weekend I installed a RX only loop antenna(Pixel

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - diversity mode running split

2013-08-12 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Robert, Think of diversity as removing the Sub RX from the VFO-B knob. When in diversity, the VFO-B knob is only useful in the control of split transmit frequency (if you are in Split mode). It has no affect on the Sub RX frequency. So you should be good. Turn on Split, Lock VFO-B to maintain

[Elecraft] K3- Diversity mode cw filter BW ??

2012-08-02 Thread callen1155
Hello folks. I'm planning on ordering the second receiver for my K3 soon and have a question. When using the second receiver in 'diversity mode' and trying to dig out a weak and fading cw signal, what roofing filter do you find most effective? I'm assuming in those conditions the narrower

Re: [Elecraft] K3- Diversity mode cw filter BW ??

2012-08-02 Thread N5GE
Diversity mode is used to reduce fading on received signals. Although using narrow filters to listen to CW signals will improve your ability to hear the signals, but it will not reduce fading of the signals, as diversity receiving does very well if your antennas are placed properly. Diversity

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity Receive is too quiet

2012-07-28 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Note that the PRE/ATT setting for AUX RF BNC is separate from PRE/ATT for the RX ANT on the main RX. To set this correctly, first do a HOLD on RX ANT button to make sure the subRX is listening on the AUX RF BNC. You will have to repeat the HOLD if it already was on AUX RF and you just switched

[Elecraft] K3 diversity receive antennas

2012-01-08 Thread Erik Basilier
I use a an R-5 vertical (designed for 20 thru 10) at 15 ft for diversity in combination with a beam at 58 ft, with about 30 ft horizontal separation. I find that it works well most of the time, but have to use much more gain in the radio for the vertical because of weak signals. On 40 the

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity Macro

2011-10-27 Thread wb6rse1
This macro simplifies switching the K3 into diversity receive mode. This K3 configuration and antennas are required: 1) KRX3 second receiver 2) KXV3A or KXV3 RF I/O module 3) The main TX antenna is used for receive along with a separate RX antenna.The RX antenna is connected to both the KXV3/A

[Elecraft] [K3] Diversity quirk (bug?) with A-B

2011-02-13 Thread Carl Clawson
Firmware version 4.25. If I'm using the subreceiver in diversity mode I can set its PRE and ATT settings indpendently of the main receiver using BSET. But if I double-tap A-B to copy all to VFO B, the main receiver PRE and ATT settings get copied to the subreceiver. This is very weird. These are

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity, antennas, rotators

2011-02-09 Thread Wayne Adams
Gee, mom, why didn't you insist that I try diversity reception sooner? After reading a review here, I ordered and installed a Pixel RF PRO-1A active loop antenna I bought one also... business must be picking up at Pixel. The loop is everything I could have wanted, works superb, hangs from

[Elecraft] (K3) diversity - relay click

2010-09-19 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hello, I am using diversity and I notice something like a relay inside the K3 when transmitting. Some weeks ago Don told me about a problem I has with the RX ANT IN. The problem was that the antenna I was using in RX ANT IN was very close to the TX antenna. In the case of diversity I have a 160

Re: [Elecraft] (K3) diversity - relay click

2010-09-19 Thread Brett Howard
Yep you're probably activating your carrier operated relays because you don't have enough separation between your antennas. Perhaps a limiter could help if you're not transmitting on both of them. ~Brett (N7MG) On Sun, 2010-09-19 at 23:09 -0300, Jorge Diez - CX6VM wrote: Hello, I am using

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-17 Thread David Woolley (E.L)
Of course the K3 has already done most of this, and then thrown Q away at the last minute. The upconvert is, of course, done by the transmitter. Alan Bloom wrote: The other way to get the I/Q signals is with an I/Q modulator. Basically you run the baseband audio signal into two mixers whose

[Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread David Gilbert
Several weeks ago, I believe that Wayne posted a message asking what kind of different uses people were coming up with for their K3. One thing I've been playing with lately is feeding the signals from two horizontally polarized antennas at different heights on my tower into the Main and Sub

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Jack Smith
Spectrum Laboratory by DL4YHF http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/spectra1.html may be able to do this already. If the K3's 15 KHz IF output were available from the main and sub receivers, Spectrum Laboratory could use those to generate the automatic phase display using the direction finding feature.

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Bloom
What if I fed the output from two VERTICAL antennas into the K3 receivers in diversity mode, fed the audio output of both receivers into the A and B channels of the computer sound card, and used an application that introduced an adjustable delay in one audio channel before summing the two

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Bill W4ZV
David Gilbert wrote: Playing around with this stuff got me thinking, though. What if I fed the output from two VERTICAL antennas into the K3 receivers in diversity mode, fed the audio output of both receivers into the A and B channels of the computer sound card, and used an

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Jim Brown
There is another VERY important thing that is being missed by this discussion. A VERY large component of fading is due to multipath -- that is, the arrival of more two or more wavefronts that travel different paths, and thus have slightly different travel times. This produces a phase shift

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread David Gilbert
Thanks for the reply, Alan. That's interesting. I didn't realize that the two receivers in the K3 had a random phase difference between them even when locked. I noticed differences in phase delay when I changed frequencies during my tests with the two horizontal antennas on the tower, but I

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Bloom
Yes, that should work, just switch the sub receiver antenna over to the main receiver to calibrate the phase. I think you'd get the best accuracy by looking for a null and then subtracting 180 degrees. By the way, I think rather than an adjustable delay between the two channels you need an

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 16, 2010, at 9/169:59 AM, Jim Brown wrote: A VERY large component of fading is due to multipath -- that is, the arrival of more two or more wavefronts that travel different paths, and thus have slightly different travel times. Selective fading does not require multipath. The

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread David Gilbert
Hi, Bill. All true, but I thought that implementing it at audio might have some advantages ... assuming at least that someone already had the sub receiver: a. Cheaper. The DXE unit is $500 ... considerably more than that if you buy the active antennas as well. b. More versatile. Since the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Jack Smith
If you plot the fade statistics for HF signals, however, you find many times that the result looks much more like Rician fading than Rayleigh. Jack K8ZOA On 9/16/2010 2:11 PM, Kok Chen wrote: On Sep 16, 2010, at 9/169:59 AM, Jim Brown wrote: A VERY large component of fading is due

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread David Gilbert
Well, I was thinking mostly in terms of CW so I think delay and phase in the context of a single frequency are essentially the same. I did give a bit of thought to what it would take to make it work for SSB, though, and while I am the last person on earth you'd ever want to consult on math,

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Lyle Johnson
Alan has verified your point about relative phase of the two receivers changing with frequency, so that indeed would have to be accounted for. A possible mod would be to feed the main synth to both receivers. This would then only be good for diversity operation, but there would be no

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread David Gilbert
Hi, Lyle. Thanks for the comment. If nothing else, I'm learning from this discussion. Actually, until Alan pointed out that they were different, I thought that the two receivers WERE driven by the same main synth in diversity mode. If it were possible to have that option when in diversity

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Bloom
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 11:29 -0700, David Gilbert wrote: Well, I was thinking mostly in terms of CW so I think delay and phase in the context of a single frequency are essentially the same. I did give a bit of thought to what it would take to make it work for SSB, though, and while I am

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Alan Bloom
Hi Dave, For some reason I got several copies of your message. I'll go ahead and post my reply to the reflector since it may be of wider interest. Yes, another way to get a constant phase shift at all frequencies is to convert to an I/Q (in-phase/quadrature) signal. One way to do that is to

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread David Gilbert
That sounds very good, Alan. As I say, I'm not very knowledgeable on signal processing so all of this is very interesting to me. I guess whether any of it ultimately turns out to be useful to anyone remains to be seen. Regarding the multiple posts ... my ISP has been acting very flaky this

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Kok Chen
I just rummaged around in Google and found a different paper that Watterson wrote related to HF propagation and digital modes (almost 10 years after his HF channel model paper): http://www.its.bldrdoc.gov/pub/ntia-rpt/79-29/79-29.pdf His conclusion definitely advocates the use of diversity

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Kok Chen
On Sep 16, 2010, at 1:55 PM, Alan Bloom wrote: I think there are some free filter design programs on the web that can design an all-pass network. It may need to be a big filter (i.e. lots of coefficients) to get good amplitude and phase accuracy over a 10:1 frequency range (300 Hz to 3

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity Reception and Antenna Directivity

2010-09-16 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:06:23 -0700, David Gilbert wrote: I thought that the two receivers WERE driven by the same main synth in diversity mode. If it were possible to have that option when in diversity mode, that would seem to greatly simplify what I was suggesting. YES! Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity and mode changes

2010-03-11 Thread Graham Kimbell (G3TCT)
reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2010 11:22 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity and mode changes Graham, When in diversity receive, VFO A is the VFO for *both* the main and the sub. While in diversity, VFO B only serves as the transmit VFO if SPLIT is active

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity and mode changes

2010-03-10 Thread Graham Kimbell (G3TCT)
I'm playing with diversity operation and find that when I change modes say from usb to cw, the main rx changes frequency slightly to keep the received tone the same (as expected), but the sub rx doesn't change frequency. This is not a big deal because I can tap A-B to force the frequencies

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity and mode changes

2010-03-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Graham, When in diversity receive, VFO A is the VFO for *both* the main and the sub. While in diversity, VFO B only serves as the transmit VFO if SPLIT is active. Tapping AB is really a no-op step in diversity (unless SPLIT is on and you want to move the TX frequency to the RX frequency.

[Elecraft] [K3] diversity ATT/Pre settings bug

2010-01-31 Thread Carl Clawson
When I double tap A-B to send all settings to B, the ATT and PRE settings are transported from the main to the subreceiver when in diversity mode. This is not appropriate because the subreceiver is NOT using VFO B settings. It should be independent of the main and stay put where it's set by BSET.

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity and CW?

2009-12-29 Thread Barry N1EU
Jim AB3CV wrote: Does CW benefit from diversity reception? Can anyone relate any experiences with such improvement and some details on their setup including filters/settings? Jim, listen to some of the recordings at http://n1eu.com/K3/diversity.htm By switching between stereo listening

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity and CW?

2009-12-29 Thread Radio Amateur N5GE
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 17:20:53 +1300, Gary Hinson g...@isect.com wrote: Does CW benefit from diversity reception? Can anyone relate any experiences with such improvement and some details on their setup including filters/settings? Absolutely Jim! Gary, I have a 30m GP here with 3 radials at

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity and CW?

2009-12-29 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Jim: If you're on the fence as to whether or not you should buy a sub-receiver I would answer as follows. If the only reason for your buying a sub RX is to obtain diversity reception I would suggest that you first purchase the KXV3A option which gives you the ability to use a separate receive

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity and CW?

2009-12-29 Thread Jim Miller
Hi All Thanks for all the diversity input. I was just interested in how it affected CW. Sounds like if I can swing receive antenna that won't get clobbered by my current antenna when transmitting it might be worth pursuing. FWIW, Santa brought me a subRX which for now will be used to listen to

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity and CW?

2009-12-29 Thread Wayne Adams
My receive antenna for the 2nd receiver is a floor to ceiling wire I have stuck to an indoor wall corner and tuned for the band of operation with a small MFJ tuner. Many times it pulls in signals better than my main outside long wire.Those times when it isn't better but still receives the

[Elecraft] [K3] Diversity and CW?

2009-12-28 Thread Jim Miller
Does CW benefit from diversity reception? Can anyone relate any experiences with such improvement and some details on their setup including filters/settings? 73 jim ab3cv __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity and CW?

2009-12-28 Thread WILLIS COOKE
@mailman.qth.net Sent: Mon, December 28, 2009 7:44:50 PM Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity and CW? Does CW benefit from diversity reception? Can anyone relate any experiences with such improvement and some details on their setup including filters/settings? 73 jim ab3cv

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Diversity and CW?

2009-12-28 Thread Gary Hinson
Does CW benefit from diversity reception? Can anyone relate any experiences with such improvement and some details on their setup including filters/settings? Absolutely Jim! Diversity helps on ALL MODES. The main thing I notice is that it fills in the dips, in other words when a signal

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity antenna settings - wish

2009-12-23 Thread Stewart
I want to set my K3/100 up for diversity reception using my main antenna (doublet) and a receive loop with with pre-amp. The K3 is fitted with a KAT3, KXV3 and KRX3. As I wish to keep maximum flexibility of antenna switching I do not want to use the AUX BNC for the Sub RX as it stops me from

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity antenna settings - wish

2009-12-23 Thread Bill W4ZV
Stewart Baker wrote: As I wish to keep maximum flexibility of antenna switching I do not want to use the AUX BNC for the Sub RX as it stops me from easily using either the main antenna or loop as Sub RX input. I don't want to be reconfiguring the K3 hardware as my needs change.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity antenna settings - wish

2009-12-23 Thread Stewart
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:30:27 -0800 (PST), Bill W4ZV wrote: Stewart Baker wrote: As I wish to keep maximum flexibility of antenna switching I do not want to use the AUX BNC for the Sub RX as it stops me from easily using either the main antenna or loop as Sub RX input. I don't want to be

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity antenna settings - wish

2009-12-23 Thread Barry N1EU
Why do you have AUX allocated to ANT2 instead of AUX BNC? Use AUX BNC and if you need to route your loop to RX ANT in addition to AUX BNC, use an external switch or splitter. 73, Barry N1EU Stewart Baker wrote: On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:30:27 -0800 (PST), Bill W4ZV wrote: Stewart Baker

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity antenna settings - wish

2009-12-23 Thread Stewart
On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:18:57 -0800 (PST), Barry N1EU wrote: Why do you have AUX allocated to ANT2 instead of AUX BNC? Use AUX BNC and if you need to route your loop to RX ANT in addition to AUX BNC, use an external switch or splitter. As I wish to keep maximum flexibility of antenna

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity antenna settings - wish

2009-12-23 Thread Barry N1EU
I don't see the necessity to connect Main ant to subrx with a different ant on mainrx. Just use the Main ant on mainrx. You're over-thinking the flexibility issue IMHO. 73, Barry N1EU Stewart Baker wrote: On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 05:18:57 -0800 (PST), Barry N1EU wrote: Why do you have AUX

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity antenna settings - wish

2009-12-23 Thread Bill W4ZV
Stewart Baker wrote: Main RX - Ant 1 - Doublet Sub RX - Ant 2 - Loop pre-amp (with output switchable to RX ant input) Stewart I'm still missing something in your setup. If you only have one TX antenna (i.e. the doublet) and one RX antenna (the loop), why not connect the loop to the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity antenna settings - wish

2009-12-23 Thread Stewart
Hi Barry, Oh dear... I hope Father Christmas brings me a new brain ! The problem is that I had convinced myself that there was only one input path into the Sub RX, and that came in via J92. In reality there is another path via the RF board. End result is that when I actually tried it (using the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity antenna settings - wish

2009-12-23 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de Stewart Enviado el: Miércoles, 23 de Diciembre de 2009 12:58 p.m. Para: Barry N1EU; Elecraft Reflector Asunto: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity antenna settings - wish Hi Barry, Oh dear... I hope Father Christmas brings me a new brain ! The problem is that I had convinced

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity antenna settings - wish

2009-12-23 Thread Mike
Jorge - On page 4 of the manual you mentioned is a diagram of both the front and back of the K3, with all connectors labeled. The circled numbers for the front panel diagram are explained in the text on pps 4-6. Look for numbers in curly braces {19}. The rear panel (with another diagram) is

[Elecraft] K3 Diversity and filter selection

2009-12-22 Thread Mike Scott
I use my K3 in diversity receive 90% of the time. I have matched 2.7 KHz filters in both receivers. The sub receiver has only the one filter the main also has 500 Hz, 6 KHz and 13 KHz filters. I have had no issues when the two receivers are using different filters. I may be lucky. I understand

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity and filter selection

2009-12-22 Thread Steve Ellington
What is supposed to happen if one uses unmatched filters in main/sub rx? Steve N4LQ n...@carolina.rr.com - Original Message - From: Mike Scott m...@paxsen.com To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 10:43 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Diversity and filter selection I

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