Gday
For those on the reflector who are wondering what this new tool (VE3NEAs
CW Skimmer) is like from a users point of view, see the review of
well-known contester Pete N4ZR at:
www.pvrc.org/~n4zr/Articles/Skimmer.pdf
I have used Alexs Rocky software for the last eighteen months or so
Patience my friend...
A known issue list will eventually appear.
Shades of the Shipping Status ?
73
Stewart G3RXQ
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 07:28:30 +, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
Please, I implore Elecraft to publish the known issues list.
Quite a few threads on here, which seem to get into
Gday
For those on the reflector who are wondering what this new tool (VE3NEAs
CW Skimmer) is like from a users point of view, see the review of
well-known contester Pete N4ZR at:
www.pvrc.org/~n4zr/Articles/Skimmer.pdf
I have used Alexs Rocky software for the last eighteen months or so
Hello all.
I am wondering what the groups opinions are about the best end fed antenna
lengths would be for taking my newly built KX1 mobile?
I have a bunch of #534 wire from wireman coming today. My KX1 has the 30/80
board and ATU on board as well.
I would assume that radials would
The Brown Stork delivered K3 # 340 (kit) Feb 5. Ordered May 14, w/o deposit.
I vey happy! Thanks Lisa et al.
George, N4YM
K2 # 4758
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I told my wife I wanted a K3 her answer was Only if I get to help build
it!...
My wife is a mechanical engineer though :)
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Get a NEW wife! ;-)
I told my Wife that I was thinking of buying a K3.
She said no and her reason!
You already have a K3. You have a K1 and a K2
Therefore you have a K3. K1+K2
She informed me that this was the new math :O)
I had to share this.
Bless my Wife's heart.
Robert Parker
VE3RPF
When I told my YL I was ordering a K3 her answer was Only if isn't loud...
German: Nur wenn es keinen Krach macht. (Krach = raise hell, crash,
bang, noise)
vy 73 de toby
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Congrats! Mike
First qso was VP6PR, yadayada. .
BTW
What do you mean yadayada?
yadayada means No No by girls or kids in Japanese.
73 de JE1TRV, Atsu
Tokyo Japan
KX1 #248
K1 #1082
K2/100 #4255
K3:asking Eric to accept direct order from JA
My wife told me Go and get one, so I can use it also..
She is KD0AZX / HB9EGL.
It sure has an advantage if your (X)yl is a radioamateur too
73 de Tom
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Atsu, see http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/yada-yada.html
The term yada yada became popular after its use in the tv comedy
show Seinfeld. It's a humorous way to say etcetera etcetera
73,
Barry N1EU
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I am sure this has been asked before but I cannot recall there being a
definite answer.
What is the difference between the MH2 microphone that was sold for the
K2 (and was withdrawn from sale) and the MH2 now being sold for the K3?
Was the original microphone defective in some way? Does it
Heard this transmission on the local 2 meter repeater:
So the XYL said to me, You can choose right now, it's
either ME or Ham Radio... !!!
Oeeer.
;-)
Previous message: [Elecraft] Why my Wife won't let me
buy a K3
My wife told me Go and get one, so I can use it
also..
She is
They are virtually identical. Same basic mic element, case etc.
We took over manufacturing this when Heil discontinued his OEM version
suddenly. Apparently he had purchased a group of excess mics and had
replaced the dynamic element with the Electret element. (Leaving the
unused dynamic
Forty-six years ago when my XYL was still a YL I made
it clear to her that she would not like the answer to
that question.
--- Don Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heard this transmission on the local 2 meter
repeater:
So the XYL said to me, You can choose right now,
it's
either ME or
Eric Swartz wrote (re the old and the new MH2):
They are virtually identical. Same basic mic element, case etc.
Eric, is the mic element in the Proset-K2 the same and would one expect the
output level, frequency response and general performance of that and the MH2
to be the same?
By the
I'm looking for information on connecting a computer headset's boom mic to the
K3 rear mic jack. I've read through the archives, but it seems the messages
either refer to making connections via the front jack (with its discrete pins
available), or just, I plugged it in it worked. I don't
Many thanks to Eric, Ed N0EHQ and Geoff G3UCK for their comments about
the MH2. Those that I have heard from a K3 produce excellent audio.
73
David G4DMP
In a recent message, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ Elecraft [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote ...
They are virtually identical. Same basic mic element,
Greg
I'll add my voice to M0XDF's comments. I have wasted many hours in
frustrated operating attempts and in trying to carefully document problems
only to be told that they were know.
In addition to bugs, we have seen repeated discussion of feature requests,
that go on and on until someone
Is there any adjustment to this delay?
I think the K2's delay is a bit longer,
for example.
73, Bob N6WG
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From: Dave G4AON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:28 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] Key-Out of the K3
Lee
From the
In a recent message, Robert Tellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
Is there any adjustment to this delay?
I think the K2's delay is a bit longer,
for example.
I agree there, Bob. Using the K3 with the XV144 on CW, the XV relays
clatter with every dot and dash which did not happen with the K2.
Not yet. There will be a menu item for an adjustable delay within certain
limits, but I cannot say exactly
when it will be available.
-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
K3#0009
On Wed Feb 6 9:23 , Robert Tellefsen sent:
Is there any adjustment to this
RE: Issues and Enhancements document
I agree that it is time to make this available.
It seems that Elecraft has really ramped up the production (at least
for now) of the K3s. There are ostensibly over 300 in the hands of
users. Customer expectations are shifting.
I too would like to see a
Steve Ireland wrote:
It is a fascinating program to use and has already been responsible for
spotting a new 160m country for me
I think this is exactly the kind of thing that people are objecting to.
Taking away the work and the element of chance involved in hunting for the
DX removes
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
RE: Issues and Enhancements document
1. Known issues (problem list / bugs) that are either in the works
and being resolved or soon to be addressed.
2. Requested enhancements (wish list) with some sort of priority
flag (high, med, low, and don't hold your breath)
I
Ten out of ten Julian.
73,
Geoff
GM4ESD
Julian G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think this is exactly the kind of thing that people are objecting to.
Taking away the work and the element of chance involved in hunting for the
DX removes a lot of the challenge, even if you do still have to work
It Elecraft send me their bug / issues list, I will treat it confidential
and put together an agreed (with them) page for the Wiki.
Could we not do this on an 'as seen' basis, no questions to Elecraft about
the issues, or at least not that you should expect Wayne/Eric/Lyle/Greg to
answer (sorry
It's all a matter of where you draw the line. This is just more
technology, and technology is **supposed** to make things easier.
Following your line of reasoning, we'd have to disqualify those using
DSP or beam antennas because it makes DXing harder for those that
don't have them.
73!
After playing with this program for a few days it seems obvious that the
decoding part of the program is trying most of all to extract a call sign.
As a result of this you can see the AI part of the program do what it can to
separate all things after “DE” and construct a legitimate call. You can
Having a great time with my K3 (#228) which I mainly use for CW. However on SSB
(2.7 filter) I find it tends to ring - even more so with DSP (speaker and
headphones). Gary sent me a very fast and helpful e-mail and I have found that
trial and error adjustment of FL FRQ makes an improvement -
Would it make you feel better if it was said that getting a list is on the
list? Cause I'm willing to be that's all you'll get.
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Not A Lot
:)
On 6/2/08 20:03, Brett Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
Would it make you feel better if it was said that getting a list is on the
list? Cause I'm willing to be that's all you'll get.
--
I know that you believe that you understood what you think I said, but I am
not sure you
It's Elecraft's (Wayne Eric) business to run as they see fit ... not
ours.
There's no way they could ... or should ... respond to each and every
one of our whims.
73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
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Do I have a problem ???
Completed alignment II and all went fine by the book. No problems of any kind.
But I put an antenna on it to tune around a bit and not much there. Only very
strong cw siganls as heard on my icom could be barely heard on the K2. Is this
normal or do I have a problem
I have been away from the K2 for a while. I decided I wanted to get my CW back
into good form and was using the internal keyer with no antenna and power set
to nil (0.1 watt).
After using it a while, I decided to set the sidetone in to PF1 and make levels
easier to set. I did that and the
They are virtually identical. Same basic mic element, case etc.
We took over manufacturing this when Heil discontinued his OEM
version suddenly. Apparently he had purchased a group of excess mics
and had replaced the dynamic element with the Electret element.
(Leaving the unused dynamic
It seems like most of those calling for a list of
issues and enhancements are ones who have already
received their K3. First, they whined about the
delayed shipping, and now, once they have their K3,
have found something else to whine about. Maybe they
should consider investing the time spent
On Feb 6, 2008 3:10 PM, Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's Elecraft's (Wayne Eric) business to run as they see fit ... not
ours.
There's no way they could ... or should ... respond to each and every
one of our whims.
73! Ken Kopp - K0PP
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Right, Ken. Elecraft isn't
At present, I am using the K2/100 to feed a KAT100 antenna
tuner. A 160m-10m dipole is connected to the KAT100 as ANT 1
through a low-pass filter and a dummy load is connected as ANT
2, controlled from the K2.
I am in the process of installing another antenna (40m-10m
vertical) as
The build went smoothly - the instructions really take you by the hand and
make the assembly almost stupid-proof. I was astounded by the presicion of
all the matching pieces. Everything lined up perfectly. For me, the only
tricky part was getting the green LEDs on the front panel pc board to
Phil Kane wrote:
My concern is with non-linear components in the KAT100 RF path
that would generate harmonics and negate the advantage of the
filter. Sampling diodes, as in a SWR bridge, are always suspect.
If this is to be a problem, I would have to get a second filter,
one for each
Good Morning...
My apologies in advance to those on both lists, who see this twice...
My FT-100D is now dead. This is my mobile rig, and is used to listen to
CW on my commute (see it IS QRP related...) ...
HF finals blown, and a receive problem (low sensitivity) too.
My time is very
UNFAIR!
We are most certainly investigating our K3s (I've had mine for a month now
and am still learning) - I spent a week of trying to resolve an issue,
including taking out the I/O modules and performing some measurements to try
to resolve this (at Elecraft's request), all of which proved not to
As a resonable person ;-) I drew the line at
satisfied when my K3 was delivered, anything further
would be icing on the cake. Still true, it's an easy
choice.
We (with K3's) must acknowledge that others still
don't have their radios, or the SubRx - these should
take priority, right?
After
There is a page on the K3 Wiki for K3 Firmware - Known Issues
http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page
Can we encourage people to start posting there and building a data base?
That is what Wikis are for (I think cuz I don't really understand them).
k4ia
Buck
Tom AK2B wrote:
It seems strange that some hams would find this sort of technology
objectionable. After all, aren’t we all about technology? Why would
we hang around this forum if we weren't looking for a leg up?
It's really very simple -- a matter of the normal distribution of the
Paul asked, is the old Elecraft/Heil MD2 plug and play with the K3?
Yes, I have an MD2 and it works well with the K3.
Barry, WK2S
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G'day,
| In a recent message, Robert Tellefsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ...
| Is there any adjustment to this delay?
| I think the K2's delay is a bit longer,
| for example.
|
| I agree there, Bob. Using the K3 with the XV144 on CW, the XV relays
| clatter with every dot and dash which did not
Yes, Mike, you are right about the release delay.
Done the same thing here with my K2.
I think the original question addressed the PTT on/carrier up delay
though. It sounds like that has a fixed delay of about 10ms at
present.
73, Bob N6WG
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From: Mike Harris [EMAIL
Phil,
I would place the low pass filter between the K2/100 and the KAT100 in
any case.
For any LPF to behave properly, it must be terminated in 50 ohms (or
something close), and that is not realized with the LPF connected on the
output of the KAT100.
Any low pass filter worth its salt
Dave,
Download the latest K3 errata sheet - it has some of the information
that you are seeking, but I fear, not all.
73,
Don W3FPR
David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
The end result though was a known issue.
My point is, a lot of us would not be asking on the list and Elecraft would
not be
Well said, Ken; there is a list of outstanding firmware features
included in the Errata to the Owner's Manual and that should be
sufficient for the end user until Elecraft choose to make any further
announcements about bug fixes, etc.
I do not wish to get into a pg match, but I take exception to your
stance. Further, I absolutely take the lead provided by the Elecraft
principles, namely Wayne and Eric.
Both of these gentlemen comment on the reflector on nearly a daily
basis (probably more than daily). They respond to
I have tried semi-QSK, Mike, but still get the XV144 relay clatter at
speeds less than about 24wpm. I can't find in the manual which config
command I need to change the release delay. Can you point me to it
please? I would like to stop the XV144 relays switching between Morse
elements at
My wife has no control whether or no I buy a K3. She has CONTROL over
everything! So gentlemen watch your retirements, sneak and hide, stash and bury
then hope to live long enough to get what you want.
I have a delimma here now. I have a brand spanking new assembled by a pro K2.
UNUSED or
To change the QSK release delay, fully depress the mic/comp control,
it is labled delay below the control, then adjust the amount of delay
until you nolonger have the relay clatter.
Doug, W6JD
K2/100 #1626
K3/100 #23
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On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 13:29:04 -0800, Vic K2VCO wrote:
Do you really have harmonic VHF TVI with the K2?
Gosh, I hope not! But for the last 55 years of hamming I've
lived in cities that had Channel 2, 5, and/or 6 stations, and
although the vast majority of home TV sets are on cable or
In a message dated 2/6/08 2:59:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
It seems strange that some hams would find this sort of technology
objectionable.
Not to me.
After all, aren’t we all about technology?
No. While technology is a big part of ham radio, it's not the
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:35:45 -0500, Don Wilhelm wrote:
I would place the low pass filter between the K2/100 and the
KAT100 in any case. For any LPF to behave properly, it must be
terminated in 50 ohms (or something close), and that is not
realized with the LPF connected on the output of the
With respect Dan I must agree with Julian G4ILO. As I see it, and to use
your example, DSP and beams are the weapons used during the hunt, but the
hunter must also know when to hunt, where to hunt and know how to approach
the prey, skills gained through experience (apology to any DX who might
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 23:07:38 +, you wrote:
I have tried semi-QSK, Mike, but still get the XV144 relay clatter at
speeds less than about 24wpm. I can't find in the manual which config
command I need to change the release delay. Can you point me to it
please? I would like to stop the XV144
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, G4ILO wrote:
I think this is exactly the kind of thing that people are objecting to.
Taking away the work and the element of chance involved in hunting for the
DX removes a lot of the challenge, even if you do still have to work it. And
if the big guns are instantly
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
It Elecraft send me their bug / issues list, I will treat it confidential
and put together an agreed (with them) page for the Wiki.
If Elecraft really wanted to have such information posted, they could do it
themseleves on their web site, or
Dohn wrote,
I am wondering what the groups opinions are about the best end fed antenna
lengths would be for taking my newly built KX1 mobile?
Dohn,
a year or more ago I posted an article reporting my results with a (approx) 50
foot wire.
Just re-capping here: I bought a nominally 50 ft
In a message dated 2/6/08 10:27:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The term yada yada became popular after its use in the tv comedy
show Seinfeld.
Not that there's anything wrong with that!
73 de Jim, N2EY
**
Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on
Just trying confirm this. The noise reduction function does not function while
in any of the data modes? When I press NR, I get N/A on the VFO B display.
Regards,
Tedd K6OI
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm looking for information on connecting a computer headset's boom mic to the K3 rear mic
jack. I've read through the archives, but it seems the messages either refer to making
connections via the front jack (with its discrete pins available), or just, I plugged
it
Sorry, but I still don't see this program as any different than any
other technical gadgetry that hams use to increase their scores
during a contest. But just for argument's sake, and because you
mentioned skills, how about keyers?? Keyers have taken a lot of the
skill out of sending CW,
The mic jack on the RP is a stereo jack. You should use a stereo plug with
audio on the tip and ground on the sleeve...nothing on the ring.
73
Greg
AB7R
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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008
That is correct. NR is not available in data modes.
73
Greg
AB7R
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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:22 PM
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Noise Reduction in Data Modes
On Feb 6, 2008 8:35 PM, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The mic jack on the RP is a stereo jack. You should use a stereo plug with
audio on the tip and ground on the sleeve...nothing on the ring.
73
Greg
AB7R
Roger. The K3 schematic shows no connection to the ring terminal on
the rear jack.
OK...here it is in a nutshell.
1. CW Skimmer will profoundly change serious-level contesting forever
2. Serious contesters use two radios at once (called SO2R or single
op, 2 radios). While they CQ on one band (using a memory
keyer...voice or cw), they TUNE a 2nd band, looking for additional
In a message dated 2/6/08 4:51:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A substantial proportion of people are naturally conservative. They don't
react well to things being changed.
Another substantial proportion of people are naturally progressive.
I would say change
Well, interesting. As Greg suggested, I'll definitely try it before I worry
about wiring up an adapter. That was handy of Aptos to use a stereo jack with
the ring not connected, thus keeping a stereo plug from shorting the ring to
ground if the jack were mono, and yet allowing a mono plug to
In a word, YUCK!
Neal WA6OCP
K3/10/305
DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote:
OK...here it is in a nutshell.
1. CW Skimmer will profoundly change serious-level contesting forever
2. Serious contesters use two radios at once (called SO2R or single
op, 2 radios). While they CQ on one band (using a
At 09:05 PM 2/6/2008, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote...
5. The entire basis for CONTESTING is competition...a competition of
who has the best set of HUMAN skills...
Hams have (as a whole) always embraced new technology, but there are
probably some still complaining that heterodynes are unfair
All debates aside, Alex VE3NEA cranks out some true amazing software!
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of WA6OCP
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:28 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] OT: THIS is the big deal about CW
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008, Mike S wrote:
At 09:05 PM 2/6/2008, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL wrote...
5. The entire basis for CONTESTING is competition...a competition of
who has the best set of HUMAN skills...
Hams have (as a whole) always embraced new technology, but there are probably
some still complaining
All contests depend on a lot of people wanting to
participate. The contest organizers all know if the
rules are such that only a few are able and willing to
participate there will be few contacts and no one will
have fun.
We all know that technology will not stop or even slow
down for the sake
Let's let the CW skimmer discussion rest for now. We've skimmed off all
the meaningful comments... ;-)
73, Eric WA6HHQ
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the K2 to reset and/or show the hi-swr warning. Twice I have managed to blow
the
microprocessor in the KIO2 attached to this K2!
Meant to say that I have blown the cpu in the KRC2 twice...
Tor
N4OGW
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After some more searching through various cures online, I think I have fixed
it. I added a 300 ohm 2W resistor to the input, that seemed to stop the problem.
Tor
N4OGW
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On Wed, 2008-02-06 at 15:53, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote:
... once you start to replace the
skills with some form of 'automatic' system or crutch I believe that much of
the appeal in working DX is lost. DX Clusters are bad enough IMHO.
73,
Geoff
GM4ESD
(Who has been hunted)
I must
I'm flying to Orlando tomorrow for the Hamcation hamfest this weekend. I
hope to see you all at the Elecraft booth!
Feel free to stop by and visit, ask questions or chat with other
Elecraft enthusiasts (or soon to be enthusiasts..)
73, Eric WA6HHQ
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