I have a K3, but unlikely I'll be able to reach you guys yet.
But I totally disagree with this K3 only stance, so I won't even bother.
This should be a net for all Elecrafters - ok, that's going to be just K2
K3 until the K1 gets SSB or the K4 comes out.
On 29/02/2008 05:12, Windy Dankoff
Sorry, I posted before I saw that. If I hear it, I'll have a go, buts its
kinda late (early?) for me
On 29/02/2008 06:30, Ken Kopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
Since I started the little dust up about K3 snobbery,
I ask that we now put the matter to bed. The point's
been made and nothing more is
Some like nets and use em and others don't. So What!
I have a real reflector offer for you,. a reflection of a different radio, the
Flex-Flyer V5000A.
The devil made me do it But it may extend my expertise. I've been using dial
radios since 1939 and much of that time professionally employed
Placed an order for a K2 today, with the current exchange rate it's a steal.
Wonder how much has changed since my first one #1194.
Leo PA5LS
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Folks, I think you are being a bit unfair to Windy. The guy
wants to establish a K3 user's group. What's wrong with
that? Perhaps his announcement was a bit cavalier, but I
took it to be an attempt at humor (i.e. saying brasspounders
should get a life, etc.). I have no idea who Windy is,
Thanks for the explanation Wayne.
Dave Wilburn
K4DGW
K2/100 - S/N 5982
wayne burdick wrote:
AB2TC - Knut wrote:
Receiver results as expected, great. Disappointed with the transmitter
IM,
even at reduced power.
A couple of comments on this, Knut.
The league measured around -30 dBc
Leo,
For what comes out of the speaker (or what doesn't
come out of the speaker - noise) the K2 is a steal at
any price. I'm still trying to figure out why my K2
(6384) is so quiet and such a pleasure to listen to on
the lower bands while my $3K and $4K radios burn me
out with noise.
Have a
In addition to the KBPF3 General Coverage RX module, is the 6kHz
filter required for improved quality AM reception?
Thanks,
John N3AM
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While I await delivery of my K3 I want to make some cables for FSK
keying and my Top Ten Band Decoder. Does anyone have a schematic for
these cables? Since multiple functions are handled by the ACC
connector, would it be advisable to use a junction box, or just run
multiple cables into the
Wayne said:
Any improvement we make in firmware (or hardware, for that matter)
will immediately be made available to all K3 owners.
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/2008-February/084015.html
This is exactly as expected and a\is very close to what was stated to
me in person at Dayton
John,
AM reception in SSB mode will allow you to receive with good quality (up
to 2.8 kHz of audio passband). With the 6 kHz filter, you will be able
to receive an audio passband up to 3kHz wide in AM mode. The audio
should sound the same either way
So the answer is - if you want to avoid
In honor of Leap Year :), I ordered my first Elecraft radio today, the K3-10
kit. Anticipated delivery is in June.
I've been a silent reader of the Elecraft mailing list for some time and
impressed with the enthusiasm, level of technical knowledge, and most of all,
the courtesy of the
What a group!
I have received several responses to my original request and have sent a
personal Thanks to each person.
I have one of the kits on the way.
Regards 73 to everyone.
--
Jay
AJ4AY
Mobile, AL
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Both the ACC and RS232 connectors are female. I made a Y-Cable for my
accessory connector, which is a male 15 pin to two female 15 pin connecors.
On one female connector, I just brought out the band data and a return to
interface with an Array Solutions Bandmaster. On the second female
Thanks, Phil. I'm leaning toward the same approach, since I have an
immediate need for FSK and the Top Ten, and future use for transverter control.
73,
John N3AM
Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:42:50 -0600
From: Phil Debbie Salas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Cabling Questions
Sender:
That's true when speaking of the heterodyne between the BFO and the carrier
of the AM signal when receiving an AM signal in SSB mode. In either case, if
you have a second signal close enough to the frequency of the desired one so
it produces a heterodyne in the audio range, it'll produce a
RTFMevery one should understand that. I've read the K3 manual 5 times and
just found a way to change the paddle configuration in software. The other
night I was swapping leads around to the paddle to get on CW...and low and
behold...there is a software parameter to do that. Never saw
The K3 Owner's manual describes the accessory connector pinout. See page
18.
http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3%20Owners%20Manual%20C1.pdf
I found a picture of the connector, with a picture of the pin layout, on
Wikipedia. I confess that I often am confused by pin layout pictures,
because it
I'm teaching a beginning digital photography class this spring. My
first assignment was RTM - Read the Manual. I had students read their
manual and answer a bunch of questions on how to use their camera. They
had to include the page number reference in their answer.
I had a lot of feedback
At 01:33 PM 2/23/2008, Björn Mohr wrote:
I am looking for a simple solution to reverse the K3 ALC input to a negative
going ALC circuit. If you have interfaced your K3 with any amp using
negative ALC, please let me know your solution.
Hi Björn
I haven't seen any reply to your question posted
While I await my K3 (sometime in June) I would like to construct a good
portable antennae to use while camping (RV camping). If it is a dipole it
will need to be short enough to fit in the footprint of a campsite. Any
recommendations.maybe even for a vertical?
73 God Bless!
Ken/NO4D
I'm a little unsure about what the ARRL is saying in their
evaluation of the K3's transmit IMD. Here's what I THINK
they are saying:
ARRL's K3/10 measured -23dB worst case. They contacted
Elecraft about this low reading, and Elecraft told them it
should be significantly better than that, and
I got a different read.
- ARRL measured -23 dB on the QRP rig.
- ARRL checked the K3/100 (which they have) at the QRP level and got -27
dB.
- ARRL called Elecraft. They talked.
- ARRL published the value from the K3/100 number.
- ARRL reported that Elecraft suggested those worried about the
Portable 40m to 10m Inverted V Antenna used by W2XS
Jackite 31-foot pole and ground mount (or, bungee-cord it to a table or deck
railing):
http://www.jackite.com/product_info.php?products_id=132
Coleman camping reel. Buy 4 of them. Use two for the antenna wire (I use
33 feet on each side but
I just received my K3 cover from Rose Kopp N7HKW
([EMAIL PROTECTED]). It is beautiful! Perfectly fitting, and easy
to drop in place without having to worry about cables. I kept mine simple -
just black with the Elecraft logo/name centered on the front. It just looks
great!
Phil - AD5X.
The SMD technique I've had a lot of success with... my secret
ingredient... is... masking tape!
Be very careful using any kind of tape around electronics.
When you remove it, there is a high likelihood of static electricity
build up. Not likely to hurt a resistor or capacitor; could be very
I'm still pretty new to surface mount soldering, but I'm discovering
that I really enjoy it! Last night, I was building a tiny little
oscillator, just for the SMD soldering practice, and I discovered a
spot where I needed a 1K resistor, but didn't have room for a big
1206 resistor... so I found an
- Original Message -
From: Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:41 PM
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 SSB transmit IMD
I got a different read.
- ARRL measured -23 dB on the QRP rig.
- ARRL checked the K3/100
While I await my K3 (sometime in June) I would like to construct a good
portable antennae to use while camping (RV camping). If it is a dipole it
will need to be short enough to fit in the footprint of a campsite. Any
recommendations.maybe even for a vertical?
73 God Bless!
Ken/NO4D
Ken,
K3/10 Kit #495 arrived safely today; ordered June 26th, shipped February
22nd. Off to the workshop!
73,
Luther N4UW
K2 4931
K3 495
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Ken - Check out the Portable Travel Vertical and the Portable Multi-Band
Dipole in the Articles section of my website at www.ad5x.com.
Phil - AD5X
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Running 100W output on 20m, using the in-built two tone test oscillator,
I measure the third order products at -30 dB relative to peak (ARRL
method of measurement) and 5th order at -40 dB.
There was a suggestion the internal two tone test oscillator gives
better results by some 3dB than can
There was a suggestion the internal two tone test oscillator gives
better results by some 3dB than can be obtained by feeding an external
two tone into the K3... That would put the above figures at about the
same as the ARRL measurements.
If you have CMP set to 0, set the external 2-tone
If I set my CMP to 0, it sounds like it is turned all the way up. If I set
the CMP to 1, it calms down and works as I would expect. In other words, I
don't see a way to turn the CMP off.
Am I missing something?
k4ia
Buck
#101
In a message dated 2/29/2008 2:33:21 P.M. Eastern Standard
G'day,
In the a review of SDR receivers in the March 2008 RadCom (RSGB Magazine)
is the following:
the indicated signal level does not vary with the
attenuator/gain/preselector setting. To achieve this the control program
keeps track of the gains and losses in the signal chain and always
Hi Wayne,
Before we make any changes, I'd like to know:
- if you use presets at all
- if you like the new proposal better (making them fixed)
The easy answer is, allow both modi. The use can choose in a menu which
way he wants the function.
Up to now I have not used the I/II filters
On 2/29/08, Darwin, Keith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My ESD warning bells are sounding ...
I haven't had a problem yet... knock on my anti-static mat... I may
only be getting away with it because the humidity in my workroom is
usually very high, or because I haven't worked with any really
The quickly-becoming-famous quote by the Ducie Dxpedition team was picked up
in the ARRL e-mail letter today:
* Elecraft K3 radio. They said The outstanding receiver and transmitter
characteristics allowed us to run two positions simultaneously on any band
-- even the very narrow 30 meter band --
My ESD warning bells are sounding ...
- Keith N1AS -
- K2 5411.ssb.100 -
- K3 Wave 3 -
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The SMD technique I've had a lot of success with... my secret
ingredient... is... masking tape!
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Sarah K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Friday, February 29, 2008 at 7:20 PM
The other tool I use a lot is a pair of bent-nose locking tweezers
that I got from Micro-Mark. They're actually to big for any of the
really tiny parts, but in a lot of cases I can use them to clamp down
a SMD resistor
K3/100 Kit S/N 509 arrived today! Ordered July 3rd, shipped February 26th.
Can't wait to start the build and get it on the air!
73,
Chris w0anm
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Do you find the DSP/XFIL filter presets, I/II, useful? If you haven't
tried them yet, please do. Here's the short version:
In each mode, there are two presets (you can also think of them as
configurations). Each preset is just a combination of DSP settings
and the corresponding automatic
Have a look at the SMD Doofus on Jim Larsen's (AL7FS) web site. This
is an easy to make tool for holding surface mount devices in place while
soldering. Several different pictures on the page show the doofus in
use while working on a SMD kit. The version I built, shown on the web
site,
I don't find the presets any use whatsoever. Turning the width/shift
controls is so easy they are not needed.
73 Dave, G4AON
K3/100 #80
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This option is on the list and would likely be something you could turn on and
off. But it will likely be awhile before you see it.
-
73,
Greg - AB7R
Whidbey Island WA
NA-065
K3#0009 and 0319
On Fri Feb 29 11:57 , Mike Harris sent:
G'day,
In the a review of SDR
I was looking at the HAGC mod last night again, under
an OTT-Lite, it has 2X hands free magnification. I
came to the same idea as Sarah, but to remove the
package. I'll put a small amount of tape beside the
part, lift with two 15 watt irons, and slide it over
the tape. There are (from memory) 7
Another fully documented feature that I never noticed
in the manual until Wayne suggested it is pressing
DISP when you are in the CONFIG menu, you get
scrolling text telling you what any setting does and
what the default value is without needing to find a
value in the reference. One can poke,
Greetings:
I use the I/II switch especially when coupled with HRD DM718 in PSK-31 mode.
With the switch setting to a previous wide (I) setting, I see the whole
waterfall spectrum, pick a signal, click the DM718 centering which
autosets the K3 freq to the center of the bandpass, click the I/II
I use the presets all the time, just about every time I operate (cw).
I like them the way they are, but to be honest, I don't see a whole
lot of difference between locking them and adjusting them on the
fly.
Since everything is possible in firmware, can't you do both? Push
the right knob to
Before we make any changes, I'd like to know:
- if you use presets at all
- if you like the new proposal better (making them fixed)
I use the presets all the time. I kind of like them the way you have them
now (floating).
Phil - AD5X
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I have been extremely happy with the Pacific Antennas PAC-12 mini
vertical. It's a kit that's easy to build, very light, breaks down to
a very small bundle 12 inches long, and it's been very efficient. I
worked VP6DX on 3 bands with it! Price is right as well. Easy enough
to buy one
Time to go big time with an offshore production line!? Maybe Yaesu/
Motorola will subcontract it for them!
I'm kidding...just kidding...;-)
73,
Dave K7DAA
http://www.k7daa.com
On Feb 29, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote:
The quickly-becoming-famous quote by the Ducie Dxpedition
Hi Phil,
That's just what I did. The amber-gold thread that Rose used for the logo
matches the K3 readout's background color closely. I'm very happy with my
cover.
73, John, W2GW
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I would be very surprised if outsourcing manufacturing has NOT been thought
about and discussed behind closed doors. How could you not at least think
about that with production being as backlogged as it is? I wouldn't expect to
see this any time soon, because it would take many, many months to
I wonder what they could sell a K3 out for if it was made in China?
$1,200? I have no knowledge of manufacturing, but, judging from the
fact that everything else is made over there, I wouldn't be surprised.
73,
Steve NN4X
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I
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Yes, I use the presets, and I agree with the field testers as to the change.
I would like to be able to return to fixed settings that I program and are
stored. That way I always have a familiar starting point that works best in
most situations, but that I can adjust further to customize for the
I wonder what they could sell a K3 out for if it was made in China?
$1,200? I have no knowledge of manufacturing, but, judging from the
fact that everything else is made over there, I wouldn't be surprised.
Actually, you might be surprised. Automation makes for a great equalizer.
I bet there
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, S Sacco wrote:
I wonder what they could sell a K3 out for if it was made in China?
$1,200? I have no knowledge of manufacturing, but, judging from the
fact that everything else is made over there, I wouldn't be surprised.
I don't think they would want to risk quality
The shipping status page is still dated February 15th, but it now shows the
status of FM B/W filter as in stock!
(I wonder if the firmware supports FM yet?)
73,
Gary KI4GGX
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I operated mobile for many years and here is how I handled the
antenna's.
When in motion I had a 20M Hamstick on one side of the motor home
roof and a 40M Hamstick on the other side of the motor home roof.
Each of those Hamsticks was on a quick disconnect fitting.
So when we reached
(I wonder if the firmware supports FM yet?)
Or AM receive... Inquiring minds want to know.
The chances that I'll ever use the K3 on AM transmit
are very low given the hollow state rigs I have here,
but I'd really like to use that FM roofer for AM and
SSB wideband receive.
Thanks for stirring
Not that I'm in any hurry but the S-Meter always being the same dBm value is
a feature that I'd seek out and go turn on when/if it becomes available.
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Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 1:32 PM
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Phil Debbie Salas wrote:
So you'd
save on labor, but then you would pay import duties. Bottom line - I bet
there would not be that much of a savings.
Yeah, I wasn't thinking about cost savings so much as I was thinking about
production capacity and turn time following a change (or
WB6MND wrote:
I would like to be able to return to fixed settings that I program
and are stored. That way I always have a familiar starting point
that works best in most situations, but that I can adjust further to
customize for the particular signal I'm listening to.
Though I haven't
Wayne,
First... Thanks for asking !! I, too, use the I/II filter
pre-sets and, as several others have indicated, I like them the
way they are now.. Being able to choose one (or the other) and
then tweaking, if necessary, is a really great feature. Doug, KR2Q,
has raised an interesting
I use the presets often.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Phil Debbie Salas
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:30 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 filter presets I/II: present and future functionality
Before we make
I use them often as well, but probably would prefer I to be fixed rather than
tweakable.
(of course, having ones cake and eating it too ain't bad, either!)
Joseph Sanger, M.D.
WB2SSB
Associate Professor of Radiology
Director, Radiology Informatics
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From: [EMAIL
I am reading the book here and trying to understand how to set up RTTY or PSK
with the K3. What gets in my way is the RTTY reading and generation algorithm.
I am not all that excited about that right now, but I am just trying to get my
sound card hooked up to the Input and Output with PTT as
My K3 won't be here for another month, but I also would prefer the Presets I
and II that return to the programmed values. I would also like the S meter
to give the same reading with different selections of preamp and attenuator.
Thanks and 73
... Craig
I work in a company that does a lot of overseas work and if quality is
important you end up in places like Singapore and Malaysia. Then you also
end up paying a lot more for labor. Average wage for employees in our
Singapore CM is 13 dollars an hour! I GUARANTEE you could get someone to
tune
I don't like the presets floating every time I make a change. They are not
presets, they are resets and I never know what might result from pushing the
button because I can't remember what width was used the last time I switched
it.
I would much rather have a wide preset and a narrow
Well, you guys are obviously having way too much fun,
so I caved in.
I recently committed $3K for a 3K, and I suspect Ill
not see it for some time. I dont own any Elecraft
products, nor have I ever built an Elecraft product.
Ive never seen one, held one, or heard one to the
best of my
I would prefer to have it two ways. As it is now and a favorite programmable
starting point set for each of the modes SSB, CW, FSK, and Data.
Thanks,
Tom, N5GE - SWOT 3537 - Grid EM12jq
They that can give up essential liberty
to obtain a little temporary safety
deserve neither liberty nor
Well we've crossed 500 so I've updated this link with a new image... I'll
do another when we cross 600.
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I don't mean to turn this into the Elecraft DX cluster, but for those
that are anticipating the next interesting DXpedition--Clipperton
Atoll, that team is in the contest on 40 meter SSB on 7.228 with 100
watts from their ship, enroute to Clipperton. They are using the call
FO5A. When
Folks:
Excuse the extra inbox chaff, but the moment I sent this they went QRT
without notice. Really, they did! Honestly! Don't know if they'll
be back or QSY'ed, but as of right now, 7228 is quiet. Maybe they
went into search/pounce mode with just one radio. I dunno. Might not
FO5A/MM is now on 7.228 at 0614Z. We just worked him 5X9 in Portland, Oregon.
73,
Steve N7VS and Caroline KC6MZY
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Before we make any changes, I'd like to know:
- if you use presets at all
- if you like the new proposal better (making them fixed)
When running in a multi-op contest station, for a while anyway with some
unfamiliar with K3, would be better to have well thought out presets to
Hello Lee
You are about right:
Line in/line out are just alternatives to using the front or rear
microphone socket and work on SSB as well as data.
Data A (short for data audio) is the same as SSB, except that
compression is forced to zero. You can reverse the sideband by pressing
and
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