Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2022-07-30 Thread David Gilbert
I found that the instructions for how to route the various cables were a helpful start, but after a LOT of trial and error I found that in some cases other positions worked much better.  And of course, some positions work better for some birdies while other positions work better for other

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2022-07-30 Thread Lyle Johnson
In addition to cable dress and being sure the cables are fully inserted/mated, be sure all the shields and the case have good metal-to-metal contact. Might want to loosen the various screws 1/4 turn and then tighten them. The screw on the left panel that ties to the shield behind the DSP board

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2022-07-30 Thread Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP
SIG RMV can help, but before you do this, look in the manual for instructions about how to dress the cables to and from the synthesizers and the SUBRX. Make sure they are plugged in all the way, too. 73, Victor, 4X6GP Rehovot, Israel Formerly K2VCO CWops no. 5 http://www.qsl.net/k2vco/ On

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2022-07-30 Thread David Gilbert
Look up the SIG RMV function in your manual. On 7/30/2022 8:33 AM, Michael C. Marx wrote: Hi All I have an 11 year old K3 s/n 6xxx. I have noticed lately there seem to be quite a few birdies pretty well everywhere. This doesn't seem right. I hear many of them with the antenna

[Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2022-07-30 Thread Michael C. Marx
Hi All I have an 11 year old K3 s/n 6xxx. I have noticed lately there seem to be quite a few birdies pretty well everywhere. This doesn't seem right. I hear many of them with the antenna connected. The radio is pretty well loaded and does have the updated synthesizers. Also has the sub

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - "Birdies" on P3 that tracks VFO A

2016-09-05 Thread w4sc
If you are not using the P3 IF OUT port, make sure that the switch (on the back panel) that inserts the 3db splitter is in the OFF position. I have seen issues with the P3 IF OUT set to ON and no load (other SDR receiver, or TERMINATION) connected. There is not an isolation buffer between the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - "Birdies" on P3 that tracks VFO A + KX3 PX3

2016-09-05 Thread Bill Frantz
When I find an unusual level of birdies on either panadapter, I first look for antenna problems. I learned this in the school of hard knocks. 73 Bill AE6JV --- Bill Frantz|"We used to quip that "password" is the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - "Birdies" on P3 that tracks VFO A

2016-09-05 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,9/5/2016 11:17 AM, J.K. Hooper wrote: What factors might be at work that result in this phenomenon? Hoop, I've encountered this as well. There are two problems (at least). The strong, intermittent birdies are probably caused by a flaky shield connection in the coax cable between the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - "Birdies" on P3 that tracks VFO A

2016-09-05 Thread JK Hooper
5, 2016 2:17 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] K3 - "Birdies" on P3 that tracks VFO A Folks, I’m just seeing, today, that there are “birdies” for lack of a better term that appear on my P3 and which track my VFO and which are up 50 to 65 Khz up from where VFO A is locate

[Elecraft] K3 - "Birdies" on P3 that tracks VFO A

2016-09-05 Thread J.K. Hooper
Folks, I’m just seeing, today, that there are “birdies” for lack of a better term that appear on my P3 and which track my VFO and which are up 50 to 65 Khz up from where VFO A is located. This wasn’t happening yesterday.There are four lines about 5 Khz apart. What factors might be

[Elecraft] [K3] 'Birdies' on 6M when adjusting filters

2015-06-20 Thread Michael Eberle
A few days ago I installed the new KSYN3A modules in my K3 along with the KXV3B modules. I am running FW Rev 5.26. I was at 50.267 running JT65 with no problems and the BW was at 2.8 KHz - the low cut at 0.1 and the high at 2.9. When I adjusted the low end up to 0.3 a 'birdie' all of a

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] 'Birdies' on 6M when adjusting filters

2015-06-20 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Mike, Virtually all high-level signal sources (like the synth in a superhet receiver) have a few birdies, and it's possible you've found one. Typically they are of the fast-tuning variety, indicating they're related to a high-order harmonic of the VFO frequency. We painstakingly swept all

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2013-06-06 Thread Dave B
On 4 Jun 2013 at 12:00, elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net wrote: Message: 6 From: Terry Schieler w...@swbell.net To: 'Mike K2MK' k...@comcast.net, elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies I had the same problem with my Lynksys. Replaced it with a Netgear and birdies

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2013-06-03 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Bill, That's great news. Please post the manufacturer and model number of the good modem. I'd dump my Linksys WRT54GL in a heartbeat if I knew of one that was less problematic. 73, Mike K2MK n6fb wrote Thanks to all who answered me re birdies on every CW band in my K3. It turns out

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2013-06-03 Thread ab2tc
Hi, Modem? You guys mean router? Ethernet cables are often a very bad source of birdies, but in my case the primary culprit was not the router itself, but the computers that were attached to the network via Ethernet. I am increasingly getting rid of Ethernet cables and replacing with wireless

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2013-06-03 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Knut, Yes, router of course. Momentary brain freeze. The Linksys WRT54GL is a combo wired/wireless router and I reduced its effect on the K3 by moving it to another room and adding a WIFI card to my desktop PC so I wouldn't have to run a CAT5 cable to it. But even with it in the next room it's

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2013-06-03 Thread Edward R Cole
I had an issue on 2m with birdies from my then new NetGear N300 w/ wireless router to my FT-847. Moving to the combination of the K3 and DownEast Microwave 144/28 transverter helped and running shielded cat6 wiring the most help (clamp-on ferrites did nothing for cat5e). I did note that most

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2013-06-03 Thread Terry Schieler
@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies Hi Bill, That's great news. Please post the manufacturer and model number of the good modem. I'd dump my Linksys WRT54GL in a heartbeat if I knew of one that was less problematic. 73, Mike K2MK n6fb wrote Thanks to all who answered me re birdies on every

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2013-06-03 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/3/2013 11:13 AM, Terry Schieler wrote: Replaced it with a Netgear and birdies are gone. Don't have the specific model number in front of me. Could you please look it up and post it for us? Mfrs who build stuff that's free of RF trash should be rewarded with our business, but many

[Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2013-06-02 Thread n6fb
Thanks to all who answered me re birdies on every CW band in my K3. It turns out that, as many of you advised, certain modems radiate like crazy and cause lots of birdies. Now that I am at my summer home in NC, the birdies have flown away; the modem up here radiates nothing that I can hear on

[Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2013-05-18 Thread n6fb
I have recently noticed S7 birdies on 7038,10122,14030,21022 and 28045. Not sure if they always been there, or it is just absense of decent CW signals on the band which make them stand out. Anybody else have this problem? __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2013-05-18 Thread Fred Jensen
On 5/18/2013 4:06 PM, n...@aol.com wrote: I have recently noticed S7 birdies on 7038,10122,14030,21022 and 28045. Not sure if they always been there, or it is just absense of decent CW signals on the band which make them stand out. Anybody else have this problem? I have birdies, just not on

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2013-05-18 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 4:06 PM, n...@aol.com wrote: I have recently noticed S7 birdies on 7038,10122,14030,21022 and 28045. Not sure if they always been there, or it is just absense of decent CW signals on the band which make them stand out. Anybody else have this problem? At least some

[Elecraft] K3 birdies help!

2012-07-09 Thread Gordan Hribar
Need advice on how to properly remove Birdies. The whole procedure from the manual I have worked several times on all bands but I noticed that the re-appearance of a new birdis on all band using the same shift.. regards, E72X -Gordan

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies SOLVED

2012-05-24 Thread John Bekema
Hello, Dave AB7E wrote take the top off the K3 and move some cables around ... And this is what I did, I carefully moved some cables and the birdies went away! The cable from J85 on the subreceiver to J84 on the aux KSYN3 seemed the problem. Thanks for all who replied! 73 OH2GBA

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies SOLVED

2012-05-23 Thread John Bekema
. David Moes VE3DVY --- Original message --- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies From: John Bekemajohn.bek...@gmail.com To:dm...@nexicom.net Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012  2:30 PM I am not sure if this is related to any wifi/switching power supply Check an other

[Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread John Bekema
Hello group! I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see on your P3 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected. I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment pretty dead. http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies.png Is this 'normal' ? I have the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread hawley, charles j jr
AM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies Hello group! I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see on your P3 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected. I made a screenshot of the P3, tuned on 10m, which is at the moment pretty dead. http

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hello John, Because I see that the birdies are spaced approximately 13.5 kHz apart, leads me to ask whether you are using a linear or a switching type of power supply. Second question, do you still see these birdies at the bottom edge of the 10m band? 73, Geoff LX2AO On May 22, 2012 at

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread John Bekema
Hello Geoff! I am using a linear power supply. On the lower end of the 10m band, the birdies are a bit less. On six meters, the birdies are stronger, for example on 50.09374 is an S8 birdy. But the funny thing is, when listening to the subreceiver to the same freq, with the same settings, the

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread dmoes
the net's on the internet is off and router unplugged, much to the grumbling of the rest of the family.the band seems clean when the router is unplugged. David Moes VE3DVY --- Original message --- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies From: John Bekema john.bek...@gmail.com To: Geoffrey

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread Tony Estep
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 1:08 PM, dm...@nexicom.net wrote: ...my dlink router is throwing birdies big time... == I have encountered this same problem with all the wifi routers I've tried. My solution has three parts: I put the router as far away from the shack as feasible while still

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread John Bekema
: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies From: John Bekema john.bek...@gmail.com To: Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu Cc: Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012  1:54 PM Hello Geoff! I am using a linear power supply. On the lower end of the 10m band, the birdies

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread dmoes
they are moving, i dont have the p3 so I cant say for sure but it seems so when I see it in the puny view that EasyPal offers. David Moes VE3DVY --- Original message --- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies From: John Bekema john.bek...@gmail.com To: dm...@nexicom.net Cc: elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread David Gilbert
--- Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies From: John Bekemajohn.bek...@gmail.com To:dm...@nexicom.net Cc:elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Tuesday, 22/05/2012 2:30 PM I am not sure if this is related to any wifi/switching power supply Check an other picture: http://www.oh2gba.eu/10mBirdies2.png

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread Fred Jensen
On 5/22/2012 9:30 AM, John Bekema wrote: I'd like to know how many birdies (fast moving) you can normally see on your P3 when the bands are quiet, or no antenna is connected. No fast moving ones. Very few fixed ones, mine come from the neighborhood wireless RAP at the top of my tower [we

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread alan geller
That looks a lot like an electric motor (washing machine) to me eg amplitude and distibution..just my experience. Better to look for horses instead of Zebras :-) Alan/K6ADG __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Birdies

2012-05-22 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hello John, Thank you for your reply, and my apology for not being able to return sooner. I am inclined to think that the source of these birdies is external to your K3, and getting into the receiver via some connecting cable(s). The reason why the birdies are less noticeable on the

[Elecraft] [K3] birdies and cable routing?

2010-09-08 Thread John Fritze
He sent along a pictorial of a Italian gent who has rerouted his TMP cables in such a way to substantially reduce receiver birdies. Perhaps Elecraft could post the photos somewhere so that we might decide if it makes a difference in our individual rigs (mine included). John K2QY

[Elecraft] [K3] birdies and cable routing?

2010-09-08 Thread Edward R. Cole
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-25 Thread -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.-
Here are my Birdies- 28.441.55 28.447.18 28.541.60 28.554.2 29.279.4 real strong s-7 50.396.0 50.630.0 52.449.0 52.795.18 21.274.3 14.281.2 I only listed the birdies on the ham bands but there are more birdies when you listen to the general coverage receiver. -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-25 Thread lstavenhagen
I can't reproduce any of these either, except one or two on 6 meters in between the freqs. listed. (52.827 and one other one I didn't record). Please don't be offended at my suggesting this, but are ya'll sure these are really birdies and not external interference from other devices like

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-25 Thread S Sacco
Any chance these could be coming from an outside source, such as a router? 73, Steve NN4X On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 3:28 AM, -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.- connectme...@hotmail.com wrote: Here are my Birdies- 28.441.55 28.447.18 28.541.60 28.554.2 29.279.4 real strong s-7 50.396.0 50.630.0

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-25 Thread Wes Stewart
, lstavenhagen lstavenha...@hotmail.com wrote: From: lstavenhagen lstavenha...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Sunday, April 25, 2010, 8:37 AM I can't reproduce any of these either, except one or two on 6 meters in between the freqs. listed. (52.827

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-25 Thread lstavenhagen
Ok, was just curious. And yes I agree, I'm surprised at how few I've found given all the digital stuff in it. I used to have an FT-900 which made so much digital hash noise everywhere, it was useless for mobile/portable ops (the reason I'd bought it). There was a loud hash when tuning that was

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-25 Thread -.-. --.-N3TU -.-. --.-
No, I hear them when the coax is unplugged on the A/B antenna switch. I've also shut down the router and modem to see if it was coming from there. Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 07:59:44 -0700 From: ml-node+4958642-828207403-44...@n2.nabble.com To: connectme...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: K3 birdies

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-20 Thread lstavenhagen
I can only reproduce the birdie on 80M (and there are actually two very close together, one of which turns on as you tune up the band and then off as you go down. They're at about S2 or 3). But I have very few options installed, the KAT3 and one extra roofing filter and that's it. Maybe these

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-20 Thread Tom W8JI
My K3 with the second receiver does not seem to have these problems either. - Original Message - From: lstavenhagen lstavenha...@hotmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies I can only reproduce the birdie on 80M

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-20 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
:34 AM, Tom W8JI w...@w8ji.com wrote: My K3 with the second receiver does not seem to have these problems either. - Original Message - From: lstavenhagen lstavenha...@hotmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 10:02 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-20 Thread Tom W8JI
Routing the cables when adding the second RX was very tricky and caused birdies to appear and disappear while being moved around. Though it is an added cost, a premade wiring harness to enforce a tested good routing would be useful. If that is a problem, then maybe a better solution would be

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-20 Thread David Gilbert
When I built my K3 (with the 2nd receiver) well over a year ago I had lots of birdies between on most of the bands, although very few on 80m. With a dummy load on the antenna port, I logged any birdie S2 or greater (I have a really low noise level at this QTH) and then monitored them all

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-20 Thread Dale Harding K7DNH
ok - please dont laugh - on second thought I guess this may be somewhat amusing to many of you... I'm somewhat new to ham radio - and having no elmer around - what exactly does a amatuer radio birdie sound like?? I have an idea ... but there are a lot of different sounds real feathered

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-20 Thread Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO
W5WVO -- From: Dale HardingK7DNH dh2...@sbcglobal.net Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 8:43 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies ok - please dont laugh - on second thought I guess this may be somewhat amusing to many

[Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-19 Thread Eugeni - EA3QP
I'm hearing birdies in the following frequencies: 28.443 21.273,1 14.186.6 (the most important one with s3) 7.068.5 3.583,2/3.786.0 Also I've done the VCO calibration but the birdies in main and sub.receiver remains. S/N: 38xx. Anybody has the same birdies, any advice to fix it?. Advanced

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-19 Thread Wes Stewart
I have: 28.443 - (S3) 21.273 - (S4) 7.0685 +/- (S7) 3.580 + (S4) Wes N7WS --- On Mon, 4/19/10, Eugeni - EA3QP ea...@yahoo.es wrote: From: Eugeni - EA3QP ea...@yahoo.es Subject: [Elecraft] K3 birdies To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 12:19 PM I'm hearing birdies

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies

2010-04-19 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Eugeni: You can reduce and sometimes remove birdies just by moving the black shielded cables around inside the radio. Remove the top cover, turn on the power, tune the radio to a birdie, move the cables. I used some tape to hold the longer cables in position once I found a good spot. I

[Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-08-18 Thread John N1JM
I know this has been discussed quite a bit before but I'm a little disappointed in the amount of birdies within the ham bands. Seems like lately I have found more than earlier. I have 3 on 40 meters that are a least S5 that I don't think were there before and am sure they are generated within the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-08-18 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Have you tried the K3 birdie elimination menu item? See the K3 f/w release notes for info on using this. It works very well on stable internal K3 birdies. Also, please note that if you have the sub RX, the coax cable that drives the first LO of the sub RX needs to be routed exactly as noted in

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-08-18 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
The cable mentioned below is the longest coax cable supplied with the sub RX kit. 73, Eric WA6HHQ --- Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft wrote: Also, please note that if you have the sub RX, the coax cable that drives the first LO of the sub RX needs to be routed exactly as noted in the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-05 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
David, Double shielded coax would certainly reduce leakage from the coax, and is a good investment in my opinion. However its use might not have too much impact on the receiver's birdie problem, because many of the rogue signals involved are probably flowing on the outside of the coax's braid,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-05 Thread John Lemay
Of Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy Sent: 05 March 2009 10:08 To: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question? David, Double shielded coax would certainly reduce leakage from the coax, and is a good investment in my opinion. However its use might not have too much impact

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-05 Thread d.cutter
So, could we use the good old methods of wrapping the coax around a suitable toroid. That would mean a longer cable at which point I would invest in a better quality cable if I were doing it and I'm tempted to do so to get the best chance of cracking the main issues we are addressing. David

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-05 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hello John, That could reduce any trash from a router is , but it would not remove any of the receiver's self inflicted birdies. 73, Geoff GM4ESD John Lemay wrote on Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:28 AM Hello all I think it may be useful to tackle this problem from the other direction, and

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-05 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
It might help, but it might not, because until such time as the source of a particular birdie is contained or removed, it will remain to be a source of a birdie. If you block one route, these birds have a habit of finding another, especially if the layout is open plan. 73, Geoff GM4ESD

[Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-05 Thread Eric Scace K3NA
. But that's a more complex task to try and raises issues of heat capture. -- Eric Original Message Subject:Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question? Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:19:34 - From: David Cutter d.cut...@ntlworld.com To: e...@k3na.org References

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
James Sarte wrote: At first I thought I did not have any noticeable birdies, but now it seems that I have developed a few. It's probably from moving cables and such around inside the rig. We could really use a detailed set of photos of cables behind the synth board(s), showing the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread d.cutter
I also wonder if it would be worthwhile buying higher spec coax. Don't know what is used in the K3, but for the lengths involved it would be worth the investment to get short cables made in say LMR100 or RG142 etc if it's not already David G3UNA Ian White GM3SEK gm3...@ifwtech.co.uk

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread James Sarte
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Grant Youngman Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:08 AM To: Elecraft Mailing List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question? What you're hearing aren't birdies. If they go away when you remove the antenna, then obviously they're signals

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread Richard Ferch
James, Any signal coming in from the antenna will change pitch when you tune the radio in CW, SSB or DATA mode. That's not how you tell a birdie from a real signal - it's removing the antenna that distinguishes them. A real signal will either disappear entirely or at least become much weaker when

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
-Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ian White GM3SEK Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:11 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question? James Sarte wrote: At first I thought I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread KC2UEE
Rich, Many thanks for your reply. From your description, it then sounds as if I'm hearing a real signal. I do have a theory that there may be some sort of electronic signal getting into my feedline. My coax isn't routed ideally, as a good portion of it runs between two entertainment centers

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread Ian White GM3SEK
Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: I've had the cables all over the place. There seems to be only one cable whose placement has a significant effect on birdies. That's the long (10/25cm)cable running from J84 at the bottom of the Auxiliary KSYN3 board to J85 on the KRX3 RF module. It should be dressed as

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread Bob Tellefsen
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question? Rich, Many thanks for your reply. From your description, it then sounds as if I'm hearing a real signal. I do have a theory that there may be some sort of electronic signal getting into my feedline. My coax isn't routed ideally, as a good portion

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread KC2UEE
] On Behalf Of Ian White GM3SEK Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 12:11 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question? James Sarte wrote: At first I thought I did not have any noticeable birdies, but now it seems that I have developed a few. It's probably from

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread Dave Van Wallaghen
: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:53:23 To: Ron D'Eau Clairer...@cobi.biz Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question? That particular TMP cable I have running underneath the KRX3 board, and over the filters. 73, James KC2UEE On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:01 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire r

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread KC2UEE
Aha! I think you're on to something here Bill. My RG-8 actually snakes its away around one of my entertainment centers where I happen to have a cable modem, network switch, and seperate wireless router all in the same spot. I have a PS3, Xbox360, and an Onkyo TX-NR905 receiver all wired by

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread Joe Planisky
I find a portable (i.e. battery powered) short wave receiver very useful for tracking down local sources of EMI. When I hear EMI that goes away when I remove the antenna on my K3, I get out my SWL receiver and tune it to the same frequency so I can hear the EMI on it. With the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread James Sarte
[mailto:jp...@jeffnet.org] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 2:01 PM To: KC2UEE Cc: Elecraft list Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question? I find a portable (i.e. battery powered) short wave receiver very useful for tracking down local sources of EMI. When I hear EMI that goes away when I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread Vic K2VCO
James Sarte wrote: Hi Joe and gang, I found the source of my birdie... ended up being a Linksys 54g wireless router running a custom Linux kernel. The second I unplugged it from the mains, all noise dissipated on the K3. Amazing really that it was so easy to find! Special thanks to Bill

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of James Sarte Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 4:58 PM To: 'Joe Planisky'; 'KC2UEE' Cc: 'Elecraft list' Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question? Hi Joe and gang, I found the source of my birdie... ended up being a Linksys 54g wireless

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-04 Thread David Gilbert
@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question? James Sarte wrote: At first I thought I did not have any noticeable birdies, but now it seems that I have developed a few. It's probably from moving cables and such around inside the rig. We could really use a detailed set

[Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-03 Thread James Sarte
Dear group, At first I thought I did not have any noticeable birdies, but now it seems that I have developed a few. It's probably from moving cables and such around inside the rig. When I tune quickly through a band, I can hear solid tones that change in pitch as I move up or down in

Re: [Elecraft] K3 birdies - question?

2009-03-03 Thread Grant Youngman
What you're hearing aren't birdies. If they go away when you remove the antenna, then obviously they're signals being picked up by the antenna from some source outside the radio. Do you her them on another receiver connected to the same antenna? Grant/NQ5T On Mar 3, 2009, at 11:22 PM,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-21 Thread Larry
I have had success in eliminating birdies using Waynes new program. I think the existing approach is sufficent in that you only have to do it once/birdie. So its no big deal. As Wayne noted some birdies requie more than one shift and its not clear [to me] when to shift up or down. Would guess

[Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread Robert Dorchuck
I recently installed the KRX3 and seem to have some of the birdie problems others have noted, the loudest on 14.186.7 (S3). The others are masked when connected to an antenna and are not a problem. I have tried adjusting the cables and saw some improvement but it will not be a solution as Wayne

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread wayne burdick
Bob, I've had very positive feedback from a dozen or so K3 customers who have used the new birdie removal feature successfully. This will be included in the next beta release. But don't take my word for it :) I'm sure others will weigh in. 73, Wayne N6KR On Feb 20, 2009, at 3:31 PM, Robert

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread Jim
It works. Good addition. 73 de KE4WY Jim _ From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Robert Dorchuck Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:32 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies I recently installed

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread Bill Johnson
Ditto! Works very well on fast moving birdies. Other junk, including my offending computer equipment. L 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods It works. Good addition. 73 de KE4WY Jim _ From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread David Gilbert
The software fix works extremely well. I haven't found a single birdie yet that I couldn't handle. Done properly, they go completely away. I'm curious, though ... did adding the KRX3 accentuate the birdies compared with how it was before you added it? I built my K3 and installed the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread Richard Ferch
It works a treat on fast-moving birdies (the ones that flash across the bandpass as you tune slowly by them). After reading your message I looked for and found one near there - on my K3 it could be heard between about 14187.15 and 14187.3 kHz - I made a couple of adjustments with the birdie

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread Joe Planisky
I agree, the birdie-be-gone feature seems to work quite well at removing fast tuning birdies within the limitations of its current implementation. I hope there will eventually be software commands to allow the process of removing a birdie to be automated. It's not hard, just a little

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread Bill Johnson
The patch will NOT remove computer junk, it was a tongue-in-cheek comment. 73, Bill K9YEQ K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods -Original Message- Bill, I looked through the archives but can't find the sig rmv patch. Can you tell me where it is? I don't have birdies but I DO have

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread SidShusterman
How does one acquire the birdie removal software and it is only usable if you have the second receiver? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread Dick Dievendorff
...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of SidShusterman Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 6:16 PM Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies How does one acquire the birdie removal software and it is only usable if you have the second receiver

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread David Gilbert
Personally, I don't think that's going to be likely. The birdies don't all tune in the same direction, and they all aren't in the same position relative to a 100 Hz boundary. As a result, some birdies are best removed by a shift in one direction, and others by a shift in the other

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread Joe Planisky
I'm not suggesting that it would be possible to calculate a solution, but rather provide audio feedback to a program so it could do what I do: listen for a tone, adjust the shift until it disappears, tune up (or down) to the next 100 Hz segment, adjust the shift, repeat until you hit a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-20 Thread wayne burdick
I could change the firmware so that when in you're in the SIG RMV menu entry, it could slew the VFO over the present 100-Hz segment (i.e., from .000 to .099) once per second. This way you could hear the full effect of each SIG RMV step without having to exit the menu and move VFO A manually.

[Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-12 Thread Larry
Waynes firmware seems to work very well in eliminating birdies. As he has noted it envolves shifting the 1st LO and BFO slightly [less than 100Hz] which in turn moves the birdie some 1 to 2 KHz. As usual Elecraft [Wayne] resolved this likely solution --PDQ-- once the problem was

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-11 Thread Giuliano
: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 09:09:35 -0800 From: wayne burdick n...@elecraft.com Subject: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies: firmware-based fix in progress To: Elecraft Reflector Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: 59aa74da58ea67722f9def82c0e2a...@elecraft.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies

2009-02-11 Thread Johnny Siu
My experience is a definite yes.  However,  if you spend some time in position the cables, the birdies can be reduced.  Some patience is required.   73   Johnny VR2XMC --- 2009年2月11日 星期三,Giuliano giulian...@virgilio.it 寫道﹕ 寄件人: Giuliano giulian...@virgilio.it 主題: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Birdies 收件人

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