Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup Confusion

2023-05-17 Thread Walter Underwood
That link has some weird special characters stuck on the end of it. Not sure how that happened. This link works https://elecraft-kx.groups.io/g/main/message/9486 and is the link in the updated blog post. wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 17

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup Confusion

2023-05-17 Thread Walter Underwood
Ah, found the original. groups.io did a really nice job of copying over the archives from Yahoo! Groups. https://elecraft-kx.groups.io/g/main/message/9486 wunder K6WRU Walter Underwood CM87wj http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog) > On May 17, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Walter Un

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup Confusion

2023-05-17 Thread Walter Underwood
Thanks, I’ll check the link. Ah, that is a link to the post on Yahoo! Groups, but Yahoo! shut all that down and didn’t even leave the archives live. Sigh. I’ll try and find it elsewhere. It looks like I reposted his 2012 post in 2014, so maybe I’ll link to that. https://elecraft-kx.groups.io/g/

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup Confusion

2023-05-17 Thread Hank via Elecraft
I went back and re-read you article. I had made a setup for my KX3 a few years back and couldn’t remember all of the details. Thanks for reposting!! BTW, Lyle’s article you mention, the link is dead. It was a great resource if you can find it again! Thanks, Hank K4HYJ > On May 17, 2023, at 12

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup Confusion

2023-05-16 Thread Jim Brown
On 5/16/2023 6:40 PM, Alan Geller via Elecraft wrote: Is what Elecraft calls mike “bias” in the K3 and K3s Owners handbooks Equivalent to the “48 volt ghost voltage” required for condenser mikes et al In the broadcast and music industry ? Yes, both provide power for active electronics that boos

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup Confusion

2023-05-16 Thread Walter Underwood
The mic bias is +3.3 V on the tip. On the KX3, there is also a logic level DC voltage on the ring. This is not as clean as the mic bias and can cause some noise on mics that short those. You can split out those signals with a TRS plug or a stereo-to-mono splitter. See this blog post (from me) fo

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup Confusion

2023-05-16 Thread john
Bias is a much lower voltage than phantom power. John KK9A Alan Geller K6ADG Is what Elecraft calls mike "bias" in the K3 and K3s Owners handbooks Equivalent to the "48 volt ghost voltage" required for condenser mikes et al In the broadcast and music industry ? It is mentioned that "mike bias"

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup Confusion

2023-05-16 Thread Fred Jensen
No. "Elecraft bias" is a low voltage applied to electret mics. 73, Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW Sparks NV DM09dn Washoe County Alan Geller via Elecraft wrote on 5/16/2023 6:40 PM: Is what Elecraft calls mike “bias” in the K3 and K3s Owners handbooks Equivalent to the “48 volt ghost voltage” required fo

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Jack Cover

2021-05-12 Thread Lyn Norstad
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Jack Cover On 5/10/2021 1:57 PM, PATRICK HICKS wrote: > I made several covers from discarded PL239 shells left from replacing old connectors. Simply cut the shell down above the knurled area and glue or solder a plate in the hole. This was before 3D printing

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Jack Cover

2021-05-11 Thread Phil Kane
On 5/10/2021 1:57 PM, PATRICK HICKS wrote: I made several covers from discarded PL239 shells left from replacing old connectors. Simply cut the shell down above the knurled area and glue or solder a plate in the hole. This was before 3D printing was widely available. If I recall, covers for

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Jack Cover

2021-05-10 Thread Gwen Patton
I think the assumption is that if it's a portable radio (such as the KX3) or a radio that's made sort of portable by putting it in a crash case and taking it on a DXPedition (such as the various flavors of K3), that maybe somewhere along the way an albatross might leave a deposit on the threads or

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Jack Cover

2021-05-10 Thread Jim Brown
I don't understand the need to have a cover for an unused jack that's not outside, exposed to the elements. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Jack Cover

2021-05-10 Thread David Christ
Sorry you felt it was unduly negative. Written language is poor at transmitting nuance. If I had such a printer I might consider making a cover. But I don’t and I too live in a less populated area and the closest person I know who has a printer is in Arizona. I am long retired and soon will

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Jack Cover

2021-05-10 Thread Julia Tuttle
Yeah, it's semi-instant gratification. It probably also saves money because you're not paying shipping or retail markup. It might also save some carbon emissions depending on how frequently your delivery folks come by, if that's something that concerns you. But please do not discount that "3D pr

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Jack Cover

2021-05-10 Thread Dave Cole
Why not use a metal cap from American Radio Supply? See: https://www.americanradiosupply.com/microphone-connector-cap-dust-cover-most-all-ham-radio-transceivers/ fits the mic connector on the front of the rig. 73, and thanks, Dave (NK7Z) https://www.nk7z.net ARRL Volunteer Examiner ARRL Techni

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Jack Cover

2021-05-10 Thread KJ7SOY
I think that’s a bit of a negative viewpoint. Here’s another approach: I have a 3-D printer. I don’t need to justify the fact that I have it. I use it daily, most often multiple times a day, both personally and professionally. It’s always here and always available, I always have filament for it

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Jack Cover

2021-05-10 Thread David Christ
Why go to the trouble? Metal and plastic caps for SO-239 are available all over for a small price. The only reason I can see to 3D print it is because one wants to justify having the printer David K0LUM > On May 10, 2021, at 10:20 AM, Jim Sheldon wrote: > > Just found a really nice looking

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone in 12 Watts

2018-06-25 Thread john
What is KPA3 set to in your K3S?Perhaps your 100w amp (if one is installed) is bypassed. John KK9A From: German Duran [mailto:hk3j...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 12:50 PM To: j...@kk9a.com Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Microphone in 12 Watts My problem is that my transceiver

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone in 12 Watts

2018-06-23 Thread Bill Johnson
German, Use the power control to the right of it. That is, once you have set up the gain, AGC, etc. for the mic. It is in the manual, but if you don't have a copy, download from Elecraft site. 73, Bill K9YEQ https://wrj-tech.com/ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-14 Thread Bill
The point is: Using most any mic - from $10.99 to $500.00 - because it is all in the way you set up the K3(S). Want a really super looking broadcast mic? Buy a $3 electret module and build a mic case to suit your visual dreams. Plastic, PVC, wood, resin, and IMAGINATION - and you rule! Bill

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-14 Thread Richard Lamont
On 13/10/16 20:40, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote: > As far as mic-audio is concerned: how much hi-fi can you put through a > 2.5kHz bandwidth SSB signal? Not much. But there's more to microphone quality than frequency response. 1. Plosives. Will the mic handle poppy 'p' sounds without overloading?

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,10/13/2016 1:18 PM, Michael Wong wrote: I’m still more of an audio professional than an accomplished ham, so I’ll ask while the thread is hot - why does ham gear use non-standard interconnects? Why don't Elecraft and others move to 3-pin XLR? Two very good reasons -- panel real estate an

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
As an aside, the 3 kHz peak goes back well before SSB was popular. It was determined to be the optimum peak response for communications. For example, the famous D-104 with its original crystal element from the early 1930's featured just that peak. As others mentioned, any electret element sold to

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread ab2tc
Hi Jim, Gee Jim, I don't quite understand what your point is. You and I have always been agreeing that the use of professional audio microphones and other equipment for communications is not only a huge waste of money but also a big inconvenience; 3-pin XL is not a convenient connector for ham rad

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Jim Brown
On Thu,10/13/2016 3:29 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: Only broadcast and recording gear use balanced inputs with or without high voltage phantom power for condenser mics. Even general purpose public address systems tend to use unbalanced mic connections. WRONG -- virtually all modern PA and sound

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Bill Steffey NY9H
anyway do note that perusing Digikey & Mouser you will have a hard time finding ANY electret from the worlds electret makers ,,, that exceeds 5$ ..(.5 for 3$ ) except knowles a chicago based mfg of tiny mic elements. the cabinet /enclosure mic body, cable & windsreen add up ... so make your o

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Rich
Did not one of the Yaesu rigs have an balanced XLR connector? I had this exact conversation with Bob Heil at Dayton a few years back Rich K3RWN On 10/13/2016 18:29 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > why does ham gear use non-standard interconnects? Ham gear does not use "non-standard intercon

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
On 10/13/2016 1:18 PM, Michael Wong wrote: why does ham gear use non-standard interconnects? The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Al Lorona
The use of professional broadcasting and recording microphones is totally ridiculous overkill for ham radio application. On the air, these mics are indistinguishable from much cheaper units, if everything's adjusted properly. A ham who spends more than $75 on a mic because he feels he needs to

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> why does ham gear use non-standard interconnects? Ham gear does not use "non-standard interconnects." Nearly every *communications* device ever made uses an unbalanced audio (mic) input - whether is be the old tube gear with their high impedance (think D-104 or Shure-444) mics or modern solid

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread n9tf
Bill,   I have the CM500, and am very, very happy with it. I also use a Heil Gold Elite that was originally on my ProIII. I use the CM500 way more than the Heil. The EQ functionality in the K3S is superb, making any inexpensive microphone sound like a million bucks. Don't go overboard on the $

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Ken G Kopp
I suspect that most of today's radio's require more than three wires for all the functions we expect. (:-) 73 K0PP On Oct 13, 2016 2:18 PM, "Michael Wong" wrote: > I’m still more of an audio professional than an accomplished ham, so I’ll > ask while the thread is hot - why does ham gear use n

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Jim Cox
I use the PR-10 and got a lot of very good audio reports. Jim K4JAF -Original Message- From: Bill DeVore Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2016 1:37 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] Microphone I just completed assembly of my K3S, KAT500, KPA500 and P3. I didn't order a m

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Michael Wong
I’m still more of an audio professional than an accomplished ham, so I’ll ask while the thread is hot - why does ham gear use non-standard interconnects? Why don't Elecraft and others move to 3-pin XLR? Honestly, the bottom of my mic cabinet is probably overkill for ham, but the fact I have to g

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Jim Brown
The CM500 is the clear winner -- great sounding mic, great sounding headphones are very comfortable. As a retired pro recording engineer, I own several dozen excellent mics. Anything more expensive that the CM500 is a waste of money. The EV RE320 someone suggested is a nice mic for broadcast w

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
Bill, You could try a nice looking, computer headset with electret mic. You'll be amazed by the results. The K3 works well with just about any mic. Well done Elecraft. I never bought any handmic. But I own several headsets, a $4,50 plastic one (has a good mic), a Yamaha CM500 ($45, many K3 o

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2016-10-13 Thread Bert Craig
My vote is for the EV RE320. It's more than adequate with my K2/100. Take care es... Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI Sent from my android device. -Original Message- From: Bill DeVore To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 14:37 Subject: [Elecraft] Microphone I just completed assembl

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

2015-12-18 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> For example, I have an excellent, high-quality, computer headset with > mike. Can I use it? Yes, you will likely need to have bias on for whichever mic jack you use. It has the standard PC 1/8" jacks, so I assume I'd need some sort of adapters. But what about for the mike? And how do I add

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

2015-12-18 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
I have PF1 programmed to toggle spkr+phones, phones are on all the time. 73, Mike NF4L > On Dec 18, 2015, at 5:29 PM, Bill Frantz wrote: > > Welcome to the hobby. Mike has it exactly right about the K3S. > > With an adapter, you can use the front panel jack for the headphones. Using > it mak

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

2015-12-18 Thread Cady, Fred
Lots of us program a function key (PF1) to toggle between SPKR+PH On and Off. 73, Fred KE7X From: Elecraft on behalf of Bill Frantz Sent: Friday, December 18, 2015 3:29 PM To: Juliean Galak Cc: Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

2015-12-18 Thread Bill Frantz
Welcome to the hobby. Mike has it exactly right about the K3S. With an adapter, you can use the front panel jack for the headphones. Using it makes it easy to switch to the internal speaker when you want to. (Just unplug the 1/4 inch adapter.) 73 Bill AE6JV On 12/18/15 at 1:02 PM, n...@comca

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone/Headset for K3S

2015-12-18 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
Hi Juliean - Welcome to the hobby. You're starting off with the best. Yes, you can use your computer headset. The K3s has an 8-band equalizer for both receive and transmit, so with a bit of tinkering, you can get excellent sound. My headset came with 1/8 plugs for both mic and phones. I plug th

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup

2015-11-04 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Jim: I use the PR -781 on my K3S with excellent results. From the MENU scroll to MIC SEL - choose FP.H meaning front panel high. {See page 55 of the K3S manual.} From the MENU select TX EQ {See page 56 of the K3S manual.} set frequencies as follows #1 50 Hz -16 #2 100 Hz-8 #3 2

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup

2015-11-04 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
If you ever wondered why a bias voltage can cause distortion in a dynamic microphone element, just consider what happens when you connect a DC source to a speaker. The voice coil move in one direction depending on the polarity. Now think of a dynamic mic element doing the same thing. After all,

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup

2015-11-04 Thread Don Wilhelm
Dr. Jim, There is no FAQ that I am aware of. Actually the information is pretty basic. Microphone elements come in two basic types - Electret and Dynamic. The Electret types need a DC bias applied to the AF line. The Dynamic elements should *not* have bias applied or they will be distorted.

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup

2015-11-03 Thread Richard Fjeld
James, Sorry about that. I'd be glad to help you. You can email me off-line if needed. It's been a few years, but the review would do me good. I can remember this; at the time, it was the same as a Kenwood except for one wire/pin. The bias battery had me wondering as I recall. But it is

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Setup

2015-11-03 Thread Jim Brown
On Tue,11/3/2015 7:44 PM, James F. Boehner, MD via Elecraft wrote: Is there an FAQ for microphone setups for the K3(S)? Yes. It's called read the manual. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listi

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion [Thread CLOSED]

2015-07-07 Thread Bill
Searching is great - as are new posts and new information. The large number of posts indicated the amount of interest in the subject matter. So much can be done with the K3/K3S's audio, so many varied mics out there, and so many different user comments. So much to learn - I have only been at th

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion [Thread CLOSED]

2015-07-07 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Yup, its certainly is a valuable thread, but once the volume gets too high, we ask that further discussion be taken off list as we have thousands of readers and not all are able to handle excessive email on topics they are not interested in. Also note that this type of discussion is a repeatin

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion [Thread CLOSED]

2015-07-07 Thread Chris Hallinan
Argh. This was a very interesting and pertinent thread, and I learned a lot from it. Those that aren't interested should learn to use the delete key. :( On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 7:26 AM, Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft < e...@elecraft.com> wrote: > Guys, > > Time to close this thread in the intere

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion [Thread CLOSED]

2015-07-07 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
Guys, Time to close this thread in the interest of reducing overload for others due to the huge number of posts. This One is -way- over the normal list limit. Also, there was a huge amount of over-copying of prior text in this thread. As per our list guidelines, please delete -all- prior list f

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-06 Thread Don Wilhelm
The K3 mic jack shell is also connected to the circuit board ground plane. Sure, it is a "pin 1" problem since it does not connect directly to the front panel metalwork, but connecting the shell to the board ground is better than leaving it float. The shield of your mic adapter cable should co

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,7/6/2015 6:37 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: Once I get the radio I may investigate connecting pin #8 direct to chassis. I install the Foster plug coming from the mic so that the shield is clamped to the connector shell. 73, Jim K9YC __

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-06 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Thanks Jim. I have provision for that if and as needed. That is one reason I use a 3 wire shielded cable where many installations only use a 2 wire shielded cable. Someone reported that both pin #7 and pin #8 go to a PC board ground. Grr I know my other radios have a dedicated pin as

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,7/6/2015 5:25 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: pin #8 as ground. Bob, Unless you are absolutely certain that pin 8 goes straight to the chassis, use the connector shell for the shield to be certain that you don't excite a Pin One Problem. 73, Jim K9YC __

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-06 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Thanks to all for the info. Wiring the XLR for the mike; pin #1 as ground/shield, pin #2 mike high, pin #3 as mike low. To the radio 8 pin connector; pin #1 as mike high, pin 7 as mike low, pin #8 as ground. For what its worth, I use a three conductor shielded cable and thus shield is connecte

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-06 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
OK thanks. Got the info I needed. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/6/2015 4:50 PM, ke9uw wrote: As best I can tell from the schematics, 7 and 8 are connected together. However I use 7 as mic ground and 8 as the shell, like Kenwood. - Chuck, KE9UW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.3

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Assuming there has been no change from the late K3, pins 7 and 8 are both connected to circuit board common. Since the K3/K3S front panel mic jack is generally compatible with Kenwood (except for the reversal of pins 5 and 6), most folks treat pin 7 as mic return and pin 8 as shell/ground/chassi

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-06 Thread ke9uw
As best I can tell from the schematics, 7 and 8 are connected together. However I use 7 as mic ground and 8 as the shell, like Kenwood. - Chuck, KE9UW -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Microphone-Qusestion-tp7604628p7604689.html Sent from the Elecraft mai

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-06 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
While I don't have my new K3S radio yet, I did print the Owners Manual. It shows the MIC audio connection to be pin #1 as MIC audio, pin #7 as GRD, and pin #8 as GRD. My question, are pins #7 & #8 the same or is one analog ground and one chassis. ground. If so, which is analog ground and w

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Gary Gregory
Hi think Jim and Joe nailed it with regard to Mic (sound) and associated cost. Heil do nothing for me. The price turns me off and as others have stated the K3 EQ is there to allow us all to use a sensibly priced Mic with good quality resultant audio which is what we all want. (Thats an ass

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread ke9uw
Interesting...I felt this from the days of the shootouts, but stayed somewhat quiet back then. Kind of like if they're happy and you got them Q5, why be the old guy. Sent from my iPad On Jul 5, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Jim Brown-10 [via Elecraft] mailto:ml-node+s365791n7604655...@n2.nabble.com>> wro

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Fred Jensen
A little OT, but Joe is sooo correct. Starting college, I worked at an FM station as a member of the TX engineering crew and a board op. I had the sign-on shift 3 days a week and was the only one there ... and I should probably include I was 16 and the engineering crew had minimal adult super

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Phil Hystad
My two bits… I use the Elecraft MH2 microphone and it suits me just fine. Although, I do admit to being mostly CW so the mic is not the most important part of the hobby. But, I get very good audio reports and even though I agree with all the comments about using TX EQ to make adjustments, I h

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
The point is that nobody can tell the difference on the air between a $35 Shure PA48, a $65 Heil HM-12, $155 Heil PR-781 or even a $390 Yaesu MD200A8X for that matter. We've all wrapped a Solo Cup or cut off paper towel tube around a Shure 444 or Kenwood MC50, etc. if we've been licensed long en

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread bill
If you prefer to have a microphone that LOOKs like a zillion dollars, check out this elecret microphone which is relatively well built, and plugs directly into the rear mic jack on the K3. Sounds like any electret should,,, very fine http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sound-Studio-Dynamic-Mic-

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun,7/5/2015 12:31 PM, Clive Lorton wrote: The fact that Joe thinks certain products are over priced is his view, not necessarily everyone's No, it's because Joe (and I) know microphones quite well, and we know what good stuff costs. Joe is a retired broadcast engineering manager, I'm re

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Clive Lorton
On 05/07/2015 19:13, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > Microphones have to suit your voice. No, microphones need to be reasonably flat without excess low frequency response, particularly when worked close. Beyond that the K3/K3S TX EQ and noise gate are all anyone needs to achieve excellent sounding a

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> Microphones have to suit your voice. No, microphones need to be reasonably flat without excess low frequency response, particularly when worked close. Beyond that the K3/K3S TX EQ and noise gate are all anyone needs to achieve excellent sounding audio with any voice. Start with TX EQ set to

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Clive Lorton
On 05/07/2015 15:06, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: The Heil PR-781 is but they are a good value for reasonable quality. I always find this thread a waste of time, it come up regularly. The subject is so personal. Heil, Yamaha, Shure etc. well as I see its down to comfort and the sound quality of yo

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Thanks Jim. Connectors and cable is no issue for me. I use Neutric connectors and Mogami 3 conductor shielded cable. I'll make up something as needed for the XLR to 8 pin connector depending on the mike I settle with. I've a few pro dynamics in my recording studio collection. Thanks for

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Jim Brown
On Sun,7/5/2015 7:06 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: The Heil PR-781 is grossly overpriced. Any quality dynamic mic will work very well with the K3/K3S. Right on both counts. Because I'm retired from pro audio, I have a closet full of pro mics. All of the dynamic mics work very well with the K3

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Question

2015-07-05 Thread Mel Farrer via Elecraft
I prefer the Audio Technica MB-3K mike on a boom.  Best reports I have ever had on the K3.  Outside of my FAT HEAD ribbon mike of course. Mel, K6KBE From: Jim N7US To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2015 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Question The PR781

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Question

2015-07-05 Thread Jim N7US
The PR781 isn't cheap though it is discounted at http://www.dxstore.com/heil_microphone.html at $139, though you still need a $33 cable to connect it to the radio - http://www.dxstore.com/heil_acc.html . I bought all of my headsets and microphones before I got my K3 in 2009. I still have a Shure

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
> Someone suggested the Heil PR 781 as a good choice. The Heil PR-781 is grossly overpriced. Any quality dynamic mic will work very well with the K3/K3S. For a hand mic look at a Kenwood MC43S (connector matches the K3) or Shure 514B or 596B ($43 at B&H Photovideo). For a "stick" mic to be m

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Bill
I use a Shure 514B - bullet proof handmic with no switch noise and excellent audio properties. Tailoring of the TX EQ completes the job. Hint: Have one or two trusted friends listen to your signal while adjusting the EQ - they know your voice and what you should sound like. Too much help will

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Matt Zilmer
I use three different types of microphones on the K3, all with similar results - - Heil Goldline with H4 and H5 elements, for use in ham shack - Yamaha CM500 headset, for when the ham shack gets noisy - A cheap-o computer headset, very lightweight, for field work The main control to use in set up

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread David Ahrendts
Bob, you’ll get a hundred suggestions on this list, but the Heil PR781 is a superb choice. Or the Heil Gold Elite. I use the PR781 with the W2IHY EQPlus and 8-band EQ and the combo of the already top notch mich and EQ are superb. Additionally, pushing that fidelity into Elecraft’s ESSB (up to 4k

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Bob McGraw - K4TAX
Dave: Thanks for the suggestion. I normally do not use a headset thus I'm interested in only a microphone. I have a pair of nice Sony Professional headphones .. when I use headphones. Someone suggested the Heil PR 781 as a good choice. 73 Bob, K4TAX On 7/5/2015 8:08 AM, David Bunt

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread David Bunte
Bob - I am a CW operator, but wanted to be able to work SSB from time to time. I heard so many K3 users suggest the Yamaha CM500, that I tried one... in part because the Heil Pro set I had was not comfortable for me. I can wear it for hours, and when I have used it on SSB I have received very g

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Qusestion

2015-07-05 Thread Mike Reublin NF4L
The K3S has so much audio tailoring built in, pretty much any mic, when properly set up, will garner good audio reports. There's no need to spend cubic dollars on microphones. 73, Mike NF4L > On Jul 5, 2015, at 7:59 AM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote: > > New to the Reflector and new to Elecraft wi

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2015-02-09 Thread Gary Gregory
; ones out there for sale73s Bob W5RG > > From: Don Wilhelm > To: David Hay ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Microphone > > Most any microphone can be used as long as it has the proper pinout on > the m

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2015-02-09 Thread Bob Gibson via Elecraft
I sure would not pay anything over $100.00 for any Mic..Lots of good used ones out there for sale    73s Bob W5RG From: Don Wilhelm To: David Hay ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Microphone Most any microphone can be used as

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2015-02-09 Thread Bill NY9H
At 02:01 PM 2/9/2015, Don Wilhelm wrote: Most any microphone can http://www.walmart.com/ip/GE-JASHO98950-PC-Headset-with-Detachable-Microphone-and-Stand/21631675 desk microphone for $ 8.73 with EQ on the K3 can sound like anything thing you want probably do NOT even need to eq even

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2015-02-09 Thread Mike Furrey
What Jim said. I use a Shure 444D that I have had for 45 years. Not only do I get good audio reports but it looks pretty good next to the K3. 73 Mike WA5POK -- On Mon, Feb 9, 2015 11:03 AM PST Jim Brown wrote: >On Mon,2/9/2015 10:26 AM, David Hay wrote: >> I want

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2015-02-09 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,2/9/2015 11:01 AM, Don Wilhelm wrote: but IMHO, Heil microphones are overpriced. I consider them WILDY overpriced. Caps for emphasis. :) 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elec

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2015-02-09 Thread Jim Brown
On Mon,2/9/2015 10:26 AM, David Hay wrote: I want to buy a desk microphone for use with my K3, any recommendations? Shure made some of the first high quality desk mics for radio, and they still make them. They were the first, I believe, to build in a peak around 3kHz to compensate for the rol

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2015-02-09 Thread Don Wilhelm
Most any microphone can be used as long as it has the proper pinout on the mic plug. If you do not want to re-wire the plug, look at microphones for Kenwood. Heil has Kenwood adapters that work fine with the K3. but IMHO, Heil microphones are overpriced. 73, Don W3FPR On 2/9/2015 1:26 PM, Dav

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone

2015-02-09 Thread Bob Gibson via Elecraft
I use a Heil PR 781G here..works good!    73s Bob W5RG From: David Hay To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 12:26 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Microphone I want to buy a desk microphone for use with my K3, any recommendations? Thanks 73 de David/M0TGC --- This e

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone settings K3

2014-03-11 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Command macros are intended for situations just like this. See K3 Utility Help, Command Tester/K3 Macros. Some clever owners have found ways to use two or more command macros and need only one button to toggle between them. There's a link to a couple of these articles in K3 Utility Help. 73 de

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone settings K3

2014-03-11 Thread Sam Morgan
If you have the AM or FM filters installed you have the ability to have 2 different equalizer settings one for normal SSB and one for ESSB I have my normal SSB set up with DX styled audio and compression the ESSB settings I have 3kc width with warmer QSO styled EQ settings On 3/11/2014 12:12 PM

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone for the K3 questions

2013-06-08 Thread Barry
LIke you, I operate very little SSB. I use the MH2 with fine results (when I can find it). I set TX EQ to cut some of the lows and add to the highs for punch. Barry W2UP -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/Microphone-for-the-K3-questions-tp7574865p7574903.htm

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone for the K3 questions

2013-06-08 Thread Fred Smith
o: d...@w3fpr.com; g...@ka1j.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Microphone for the K3 questions I have the QC2 Bose headset, the Yamaha CM500 everyone recommends and the MH2. I work mostly SSB. I am happy with either the Bose or Yamaha with the K3. The Yamaha works just fine.

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone for the K3 questions

2013-06-08 Thread George Thornton
don't want to spend about $100 for a new Heil boom. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Don Wilhelm Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 2:24 PM To: g...@ka1j.com Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Micr

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone for the K3 questions

2013-06-07 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/7/2013 2:13 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: If you want a headset, I'd strongly recommend the Yamaha CM-500 (< $50 on-line at places like B&H Photovideo, Sam Ash, etc.) it is not noise cancelling but it beats the Heil hands down for less than half the price. Strongly agree. The CM500 headset

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone for the K3 questions

2013-06-07 Thread Gary Smith
Why? A good question. At this time I don't work SSB, have little interest in a mode I need an interpreter to understand or send. When as I have now, people I don't know telling me my audio sounds bad, I need to fix this. Perhaps a $4 mic would be fine. I did try a "Genius" headset and found it u

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone for the K3 questions

2013-06-07 Thread James kvochick
Joe, Have you been a ham that long? 73 Jim WB8AZP Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2013, at 4:13 PM, "Joe Subich, W4TV" wrote: > > Gary, > > It's possible that the HC-4 has gotten rough over the years - > I had an HC5 element in the Heil ProSet give up after about > 30 years . > > If you wa

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone for the K3 questions

2013-06-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gary, Both those microphones should work well with the K3. Couple that with the fact that you hear things OK in the monitor. That suggests that there is something else wrong with your K3. I would first check the filter selection for transmit using K3 Utility and make certain the actual 2.7 (

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone for the K3 questions

2013-06-07 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
Gary, It's possible that the HC-4 has gotten rough over the years - I had an HC5 element in the Heil ProSet give up after about 30 years . If you want a headset, I'd strongly recommend the Yamaha CM-500 (< $50 on-line at places like B&H Photovideo, Sam Ash, etc.) it is not noise cancelling but

Re: [Elecraft] Microphone for the K3 questions

2013-06-07 Thread Gil G.
On Fri, 2013-06-07 at 16:25 -0400, Gary Smith wrote: > I use a K3 and rarely work SSB and I'm 99+% CW. I normally use a set > of Bose QC15 headsets and have a very old Heil HC-4 Mic element in an > older HM-5 Ball tip desk mic. If you operate 99% CW, like I do, why worry about it? I bought two m

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