In a message dated 9/26/00, John Juhasz writes:
Personally I see this as a Medical Device with 'Telecommunications
Feature'.
Therefore, I envision the application of the applicable Medical Device
standard with a separate test (report addendum) on the telecom port
utilizing an
Hello Peter,
It falls under both! We already have some radio medical devices that carry
two NB numbers next to the CE-marking.
Best regards,
Dave Osborn
Agilent Technologies
Secretary, ISO TC 121/SC3
dosb...@agilent.com or
d.g.osb...@ieee.org
+ 1 978 659 3178
fax +1 978 685 5624
Interesting product.
Personally I see this as a Medical Device with 'Telecommunications Feature'.
Therefore, I envision the application of the applicable Medical Device
standard
with a separate test (report addendum) on the telecom port utilizing an
appropriate telecom standard.
John Juhasz
A consumer blood pressure monitor for home use with a telephone PSTN
connection?
Does it fall under MDD or the RTTE?
Peter Merguerian
Managing Director
Product Testing Division
I.T.L. (Product Testing) Ltd.
Hacharoshet 26, POB 211
Or Yehuda 60251, Israel
Tel: 972-3-5339022 Fax: 972-3-5339019
Jim,
That summary was very informative. I would be interested in the
feedback generated from Richard Kluges proposal to suppliers and service
providers as mentioned in your attached letter. This will be an interesting
topic at the NEBS 2000 Conference in Baltimore next week.
Thx,
On 9/25/00 Barry Ma asks:
The charging stand for a battery-driven toothbrush (Sonicare) has no contact
wit h the toothbrush. What is the charging mechanism? Is it safer than other
battery ?
Magnetics. Is it safer? I don't know.
Regards,
Eric
Chris' email reminds me of a relevant question:
The charging stand for a battery-driven toothbrush (Sonicare) has no contact
with the toothbrush. What is the charging mechanism? Is it safer than other
battery?
Best Regards,
Barry Ma
I've used UL-RTP in North Carolina. The contact was Ken Puckett at 919
549-1521.
Jack
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From: bharat_s...@logitech.com [mailto:bharat_s...@logitech.com]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 2:36 PM
To: emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: Testing of product per en60825-1
Hello,
You don't say where you are located, but I believe Cetecom have a facility
in Mountain View, CA. Contact Fernando Hardasmal on (408) 586 6203.
Dave Wilson
Alidian Networks Inc.
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From: bharat_s...@logitech.com [mailto:bharat_s...@logitech.com]
Sent: Monday,
Bharat,
Also, TUV Rheinland of North America performs evaluation of laser products
per EN60825/IEC825.
Vitaly Gorodetsky
Compliance Dept.Direct: (818) 678-3840
Canoga Perkins Corp.Main: (818) 718-6300
20600 Prairie Street
Paul,
Associated Research model HyPot II 3570D, has the capability of setting a
minimum current. This will ensure that there is no open. Depending on your
location. I can set you up with a rep that may be able to let you demo in
your location to see if it suits your needs. Contact me directly for
Guy,
You can get NEBS information from the NEBS list server by signing up on the
RCIC website
http:\\www.rcic.com in the virtual conference hall under NEBS. While most
of the members of the EMC group are also on the NEBS group, it is good to
send requests to the right list.
To start, you will
David,
I do not believe you have had anyone answer your question to the group.
Sorry I have been away from the office a lot lately.
Australia has not yet adopted the 1998 version of CISPR 22 or EN 55022. As
you are probably aware, the latest version of AS/NZS 3548 is 1995.
We will be
Paul,
There will always be some small current flowing during a hipot test.
If there isn't any current flowing, it's probably because you're circuit
is open somewhere (probably the test jig, or the hipot tester's leads).
To prevent this problem from going undetected some manufacturers
began to
I use NEMKO in Norway.
http://www.nemko.com/
Look for laser in the Product area.
Regards
Chris Colgan
EMC Safety
TAG McLaren Audio Ltd
mailto:chris.col...@tagmclarenaudio.com
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From: bharat_s...@logitech.com [SMTP:bharat_s...@logitech.com]
Sent: 25 September
UL1697 does not exist. The following link will take you to a numerical
listing of UL's standards. You may be able to guess the correct standard
number.
http://ulstandardsinfonet.ul.com/catalog/part1std.html
Regards
Chris Colgan
EMC Safety
TAG McLaren Audio Ltd
Paul,
My manufacturing contacts have asked for a lead on a supplier of test
equipment that I can use to be able to test the Hi pot lead for it not to
be open. If you run the Hi Pot test holding the lead in the air it will
pass . We need a way to test that the lead is not open .
The Test
Some Hi-pot testers have the ability to set a minimum leakage current
expected which sets the alarm off if the unit being tested is switched off
or otherwise disconnected.
Our UL inspector expects to see a calibration log for the Hi-pot tester.
It is quite easy to build a simple fixture to test
Some Hi-pot testers have the ability to set a minimum leakage current
expected which sets the alarm off if the unit being tested is switched off
or otherwise disconnected.
Our UL inspector expects to see a calibration log for the Hi-pot tester.
It is quite easy to build a simple fixture to
I would ask NEMKO. They have a department dedicated to those Eastern
approval requirement issues.
The contact person is Morten Smith. Int 47 22 96 03 30 gets the main
switchboard. Rgds, Lou
Lou Aiken
27109 Palmetto Drive
Orange Beach, AL
36561 U.S.A.
tel1-334-981-6786
fax
This question is in regard to Class 2 and 3 circuits according to the US
National Electrical Code.
Reference note 2 in Table 11(a)., Class 2 and Class 3 Alternating-Current
Power Source Limitations which says, For nonsinusoidal ac, Vmax shall not
be greater than 42.4 volts peak. Where wet
Robert,
I have a catalog of UL standards (published by UL) that is from January 1999
and it does not list a UL 1697. It skips from 1694 to 1699 so it is probably
a typo. It also is not in the list of proposed standards. The current list
of UL standards, including the scopes of the standards, is
CSA requires us to run a hi-pot tester test to verify that the tester is
functional, once every day on those days that we run the hi-pot tests. The
log book is supposed to have entries recording this verifications.
Newer testers have built-in capability to do it, for older testers some
It is not a UL standard at this time, but it is called Subject 1697
written by UL. It borrows requirements from UL1950 and elsewhere. Randy
Ivans at UL Melville has been leading the Ad Hoc committee and can give you
the latest status. 1697 covers power-passing cable TV taps and telco
Network
I was at the CENELEC web site http://www.cenelec.org/ looking for a
reference to the current version of EN61010-1 (Safety for lab equipment),
and found confusing information.
The results of the search gave a CENELEC reference that said that
EN61010-1:1993/A2:1995 had a DOW of 1996-04-01. I take
Can anyone recommend a design standard for an oven intended to bake
silicon wafers, (or closely related product standards).
My primary interest is electrical design requirements for resistive heating
elements.
Similar products may be
Kilns for wood drying or ceramics,
Ovens for food or
Lauren:
I suggest UL 197 which covers commercial electric cooking appliances and
UL 1030 which covers sheathed heating elements.
Regards,
Richard Pittenger
PMI Food Equipment Group
Troy, Ohio
Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@axcelis.com
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09/26/00 11:05 AM
Please
Any one have a good reference for the effects, and simulation of sun loading
on environmental cabinets?
Thanks
Gary
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Hi Paul,
First, I would caution you from holding the hipot test lead while the tester is
in operation. It
could certainly be hazardous to your health, and all that. I wonder if this is
one of those don't
try this at home cases.
Anyway, in another life while undergoing an initial BABT 340
We have had similar experiences in FL particularly after the hurricane hit south
of Miami. Electrical requirements changed and immersion became a common
requirement for some of our customers. We use W insulation as standard and
recommend sealing the bottom entrances to the equipment. This
I've used CSA in Toronto
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From: jmur...@quantumbridge.com [mailto:jmur...@quantumbridge.com]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 5:59 PM
To: bharat_s...@logitech.com; emc-p...@ieee.org
Subject: RE: Testing of product per en60825-1
I've used UL-RTP in North Carolina. The
Cables under raised floors are currently the subject of a proposal to change
the code regarding them as follows:
12-101 -( 645-5(d)(5)):
SUBMITTER: Rick Zupan, Lake Oswego, OR
RECOMMENDATION:
Revise as follows:
645-5(d)(5) Cable, other than those covered in (b) and (2) and those complying
with
I agree with Ron . . .
When I was the BABT ALE (Aproval Liaison Engineer) with my last company, the
same issue arose
during my intitial BABT audit with verifying the Hi-Pot tester's proper
operation.
I too fashioned a device (used a plastic box with terminals and internal
resistors) to
test the
Bellcore GR-2834-CORE, section 5.8 (which happened to land on my desk last
night) is a good start.
Regards,
Naftali Shani, Catena Networks (www.catena.com)
307 Legget Drive, Kanata, Ontario, Canada K2K 3C8
Voice +1.613.599.6430 X.8277 Fax +1.613.599.6433
E-mail: nsh...@catena.com or
Hello Group,
BTW..
Access to RCIC is still trashed by the irrate Napster proponant (
pimpshizpimps...@aol.com ).. has anyone found a work-around ?
George
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From: David Spencer [mailto:dspen...@oresis.com]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 8:35 PM
To: 'Guy Story'; EMC
I am just rejoining the forum after a few weeks absence for vacation and
server/domain changes.
Early in September it appeared that the harmonic emissions standard EN
61000-3-2 might be ammended (with A14) to redefine equipment
classifications, specifically Class D. Does anyone have a reliable
Greetings,
I have an internal client asking about using a 900 MHz chip set to perform
communications within an industrial product. I am unfamiliar with the rules
governing industrial emissions at this frequency. Our products are used
worldwide. Your help is appreciated.
Regards,
Jeff
It was reported on here by someone that A14 was approved. The CENELC web
site lists the proposed dop and dow. Since this is a basic standard,
publication is necessary in the OJ for it to be effective.
Richard Woods
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From: O'Shaughnessy, Paul
George,
It came up fine for me. Try hitting refresh once it comes up. If I
remember correctly the browser remembers where it was last and will go there
if you don't start from scratch. Maybe a re-boot...
Good luck,
Rocky
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From: George Sparacino
Thanks for the response guys.. but I've already tried to refresh several
times, deleted the contents in my Explorer temp folder, History cache and
temporary internet files in windows dir.. Plus, I tossed my cookies.
Still can't access RCIC.. don't know what else to do. Any other suggestions
are
In past lives I've done exactly what Ron is suggesting, plus we had
a golden unit for the start of production shift testing. We tested the
golden unit and it should pass, the test jig was then tested and all of
the audible and visual indicators were examined to insure that they all were
Hello Group,
Yes, A14 has been adopted, and in spite of the implementation date
efforts are being made to make it valid per the first OJEC publication
available , this means as soon as possible after 2001-1-1.
I just received a notice (CLC/BT(SG)4087 with the UAP voting results,
with a negative
George et al,
Type the address in but also include at the end the standard default name for
the html index document, as follows:
http://www.rcic.com/index.htm
What the guy did was redirect the default document. The default is typically
index.htm or index.html
I just tried it again to be
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