Re: [PSES] ROHS Lead Exemption Expires 2024 (e.g. metal film resistors)

2023-03-13 Thread Elliott Martinson
: Elliott Martinson mailto:emartin...@borgindak.com>> Sent: Monday, March 6, 2023 6:33 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] ROHS Lead Exemption Expires 2024 (e.g. metal film resistors) Is the general consensus that the exemption will be ex

[PSES] ROHS Lead Exemption Expires 2024 (e.g. metal film resistors)

2023-03-06 Thread Elliott Martinson
Is the general consensus that the exemption will be extended or go into effect? I find it interesting that the truly lead-free resistors often sell for less than the old ones (probably less demand as BOM changes are slow) - This

Re: [PSES] RoHS Exempt Industrial Machinery

2022-07-26 Thread Lauren Crane
equ...@listserv.ieee.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2022 11:54 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS Exempt Industrial Machinery External Email: Do NOT reply, click on links, or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. If you believe this email may be

Re: [PSES] RoHS Exempt Industrial Machinery

2022-07-26 Thread Stultz, Mark
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RoHS Exempt Industrial Machinery CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Greetings. Would a stand-alone industrial cut-off saw (stationary grinding

[PSES] RoHS Exempt Industrial Machinery

2022-07-26 Thread Brian Kunde
Greetings. Would a stand-alone industrial cut-off saw (stationary grinding machine), 5hp to 30hp, intended to cut through metal material, 3-phase 380V, about the size of a large refrigerator and weighing about 400kg (880 lbs) or more, be exempt from RoHS? Wading through all the RoHS documents

Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?

2021-12-20 Thread Douglas E Powell
gt; > You do not however declare compliance to RoHS III (it doesn’t exist) > > > > Best regards > > Charlie > > > > *Charlie Blackham* > > *Sulis Consultants Ltd* > > *Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317* > > *Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ <https://

Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?

2021-12-19 Thread Bill Owsley
and Wales, number 05466247   From: John Woodgate Sent: 16 December 2021 20:19 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?   It can't hurt to cite it. There are cases where a citation is not allowed, but I don't think this is one of them

Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?

2021-12-16 Thread John Woodgate
624317* *Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ * Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 *From:*John Woodgate *Sent:* 16 December 2021 20:19 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC? It can't hurt to cite it. There are cases where a citation

Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?

2021-12-16 Thread Charlie Blackham
Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: John Woodgate Sent: 16 December 2021 20:19 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC? It can't hurt to cite it. There are cases

Re: [PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?

2021-12-16 Thread John Woodgate
It can't hurt to cite it. There are cases where a citation is not allowed, but I don't think this is one of them. == Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK Istae nunc

[PSES] RoHS III references on the DoC?

2021-12-16 Thread Douglas E Powell
All, Given that Directive 2011/65/EU has been amended by Directive (EU) 2015/863, is it now necessary to reference the amendment on the Declaration of Conformity? This is an amendment to Annex II, and "RoHS III" appears terminology used by the unwashed masses. Thoughts? -Doug Douglas E

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-25 Thread BANSI PATEL
A; May 18-20, 2021 From: Brian Kunde Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 8:47 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC Our motivation for including information on our EU DoCs that may not be technically required is two-fold; 1. to better inform our cust

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-25 Thread Brian Kunde
ham* > > *Sulis Consultants Ltd* > > *Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317* > > *Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ <https://sulisconsultants.com/> * > > Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > > > > *From:* Brian Kunde > *Sent:* 22 November 2020 05:26 >

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-23 Thread lauren . crane
st Regards, -Lauren -Original Message- From: Amund Westin Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 4:01 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] ROHS and DoC For EU compliance, I assume Directive 2011/65/EU is still the correct reference to use? I see several parties who is referri

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-22 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
; > > > Scott > > > > From: Brian Kunde > Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2020 01:26 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC > > > > Because we provide DoCs translated into over 30 la

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-22 Thread Scott Xe
Sent: Sunday, 22 November 2020 01:26 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC Because we provide DoCs translated into over 30 languages, we try to avoid text that has to be translated. Our type of products do not have to comply with these new regulations until next

[PSES] SV: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-22 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks Brian, as simple as possible. Best regards Amund Fra: Brian Kunde Sendt: 22. november 2020 06:26 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC Because we provide DoCs translated into over 30 languages, we try to avoid text that has to be translated. Our type

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-22 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
sconsultants.com/ > > > Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Amund Westin < am...@westin-emission.no > > > mailto:am...@westin-emission.no > > >

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-22 Thread Charlie Blackham
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC Because we provide DoCs translated into over 30 languages, we try to avoid text that has to be translated. Our type of products do not have to comply with these new regulations until next year, but when we do, we plan to use the same nomenclature

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-21 Thread Brian Kunde
is_en.htm) >> >> Best regards >> Charlie >> >> Charlie Blackham >> Sulis Consultants Ltd >> Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 >> Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ >> Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 >> >> -Original Message---

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-21 Thread Scott Douglas
ee/legis_en.htm) > > Best regards > Charlie > > Charlie Blackham > Sulis Consultants Ltd > Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 > Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ > Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 > > -Original Message- > From: Amund Westin > Sent:

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-21 Thread Charlie Blackham
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] ROHS and DoC For EU compliance, I assume Directive 2011/65/EU is still the correct reference to use? I see several parties who is referring to 2015/863 in their DoC, but isn't that reference just a replacement for Annex II in 2011/65/EU? Best regards Amund

Re: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-21 Thread Ruth Shapira
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] ROHS and DoC For EU compliance, I assume Directive 2011/65/EU is still the correct reference to use? I see several parties who is referring to 2015/863 in their DoC, but isn't that reference just a replacement for Annex II in 2011/65/EU? Best regards

[PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-21 Thread Amund Westin
For EU compliance, I assume Directive 2011/65/EU is still the correct reference to use? I see several parties who is referring to 2015/863 in their DoC, but isn't that reference just a replacement for Annex II in 2011/65/EU? Best regards Amund -

Re: [PSES] RoHS 3 question

2019-05-14 Thread 000006cee064502d-dmarc-request
thank you all Peter -Original Message- From: Scott Xe To: EMC-PSTC Sent: Fri, May 10, 2019 8:37 am Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS 3 question Actually there are more than a dozen of amendments in 2018 and 2019 amending the exemptions of 2011/65/EU .  We have to take note of them unless

Re: [PSES] RoHS 3 question

2019-05-10 Thread Scott Xe
Actually there are more than a dozen of amendments in 2018 and 2019 amending the exemptions of 2011/65/EU . We have to take note of them unless the product has a clean compliance. Regds, Scott On Fri, 10 May 2019, 3:49 am John Woodgate, wrote: > You normally only cite the latest version. As

Re: [PSES] RoHS 3 question

2019-05-09 Thread lauren . crane
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS 3 question The proper way to cite this would be: " Compliant to 2011/65/EU as modified by 2015/863". There is no "/EU" at the end. On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 1:48 PM John Woodgate mailto:j...@woodjohn.uk>> wrote: You normally on

Re: [PSES] RoHS 3 question

2019-05-09 Thread Charlie Blackham
Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: 06cee064502d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org <06cee064502d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org> Sent: 09 May 2019 19:12 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject:

Re: [PSES] RoHS 3 question

2019-05-09 Thread John Woodgate
Commission-delegated Directives, don't have /EU at the end. 2015/863 is an amendment to 2011/65/EU, not a 'new version'. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK The UK is a sovereign state, not a Zollverein state On

Re: [PSES] RoHS 3 question

2019-05-09 Thread Michael Cantwell
The proper way to cite this would be: " Compliant to 2011/65/EU as modified by 2015/863". There is no "/EU" at the end. On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 1:48 PM John Woodgate wrote: > You normally only cite the latest version. As far as I know, all these > references end in /EU now. > > Best wishes >

Re: [PSES] RoHS 3 question

2019-05-09 Thread John Woodgate
You normally only cite the latest version. As far as I know, all these references end in /EU now. Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK The UK is a sovereign state, not a Zollverein state On 2019-05-09 19:12,

[PSES] RoHS 3 question

2019-05-09 Thread 000006cee064502d-dmarc-request
Hello group, Our products complies with all versions of RoHS including the latest one. When it comes to creating Declarations of conformity, do I write (RoHS) 2011/65/EU+ 2015/863 or do I just write 2015/863? Is there an EU at the end of the 863? ThanksPeter -

Re: [PSES] ROHS for non-electrical components

2019-04-16 Thread John Woodgate
No, because the piping is not '/fully functional separate products'. /The enclosure might be considered as such, but an empty enclosure might not qualify as 'fully functional'. // Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associates www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On

[PSES] ROHS for non-electrical components

2019-04-16 Thread Rodriguez, Daniel (ESP)
Good morning I have an equipment that is an electrical cabinet with standard breakers, valves, PLC and pumps and non electrical components like piping and enclosure that it is placed in the market as an unit Can be consider according to EU ROHS Q (see below) that the non metallic parts like

Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change...

2019-03-04 Thread Scott Xe
Great, thanks, John! Scott From: John Woodgate Sent: Monday, 4 March 2019 09:05 PM To: Scott Xe ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change... Maybe my explanation was a bit too brief. CENELEC specifies the dow, but the Commission can assert a different date

Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change...

2019-03-04 Thread John Woodgate
this approach?  Is there any official guidance to clarify it? Regards, Scott *From:*John Woodgate *Sent:* Friday, 1 March 2019 12:43 AM *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change... Strictly speaking, transition periods are not specified in CENELEC standards

Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change...

2019-03-04 Thread Scott Xe
it? Regards, Scott From: John Woodgate Sent: Friday, 1 March 2019 12:43 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change... Strictly speaking, transition periods are not specified in CENELEC standards, Instead, the mythical animal Docopocoss is specified (Date

Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change...

2019-02-28 Thread John Woodgate
*Sent:* 27 February 2019 17:36 *To:* Matthew Wilson ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change... The site you mention has the answer: /In setting the necessary technical documentation requirements, EN IEC 63000 is *almost identical *to the text of EN 50581, even

Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change...

2019-02-28 Thread Matthew Wilson
Sent: 27 February 2019 17:36 To: Matthew Wilson ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change... The site you mention has the answer: In setting the necessary technical documentation requirements, EN IEC 63000 is almost identical to the text of EN 50581, even if any wording

Re: [PSES] RoHS standard change...

2019-02-27 Thread John Woodgate
The site you mention has the answer: /In setting the necessary technical documentation requirements, EN IEC 63000 is *almost identical *to the text of EN 50581, even if any wording specific to the EU RoHS Directive has been removed: it aims at addressing different substance regulations

[PSES] RoHS standard change...

2019-02-27 Thread Matthew Wilson
I see that BSI now state that EN 50581:2012 is marked as Status : Superseded, Withdrawn https://shop.bsigroup.com/ProductDetail?pid=0030261478 and states it is replaced by: BS EN IEC 63000:2018, Technical documentation for the assessment of electrical and electronic products with respect

Re: [PSES] RoHS and renewable energy

2017-02-22 Thread Regan Arndt
...@btinternet.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 1:14 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS and renewable energy I agree with your interpretation. I don't think it means that only an inverter specified by type number by the manufacturer of the PV module is exempt. What would

Re: [PSES] RoHS and renewable energy

2017-02-21 Thread John Woodgate
. -Original Message- From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 6:23 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS and renewable energy Mr. Woodgate is offering a rational interpretation in the face of an inconsistent and confused bureaucracy

Re: [PSES] RoHS and renewable energy

2017-02-21 Thread Brian O'Connell
: Monday, February 20, 2017 1:14 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS and renewable energy I agree with your interpretation. I don't think it means that only an inverter specified by type number by the manufacturer of the PV module is exempt. What would be the point

Re: [PSES] RoHS and renewable energy

2017-02-20 Thread John Woodgate
Opinions Only <http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk/> www.jmwa.demon.co.uk J M Woodgate and Associates Rayleigh England Sylvae in aeternum manent. From: Regan Arndt [mailto:re...@empowermicro.com] Sent: Monday, February 20, 2017 9:04 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES

Re: [PSES] RoHS and renewable energy

2017-02-20 Thread Regan Arndt
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS and renewable energy No. Only for panel materials used in the PV film, and is not a system-level exemption. By definition, substances and materials specified in the RoHS and REACH directives are considered harmful, so no exclusion for materials in other stuff. Can

Re: [PSES] RoHS and renewable energy

2017-02-17 Thread Brian O'Connell
for the import authorities? Brian From: Regan Arndt [mailto:re...@empowermicro.com] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2017 2:05 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RoHS and renewable energy Greetings everyone, Regarding the RoHS recast directive; DIRECTIVE 2011/65/EU OF THE EUROPEAN

[PSES] RoHS and renewable energy

2017-02-17 Thread Regan Arndt
Greetings everyone, Regarding the RoHS recast directive; DIRECTIVE 2011/65/EU OF THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND OF THE COUNCIL of 8 June 2011, on the restriction of the use of certain hazardous substances in electrical and electronic equipment (recast) – see attached. Article 2 states: Scope

Re: [PSES] ROHS vs. Safety critical products (SIL, etc)

2017-01-16 Thread Kunde, Brian
- From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: Monday, January 16, 2017 8:01 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] ROHS vs. Safety critical products (SIL, etc) ROHS mention some exemption of products in the latest directive (Article 2 in 2011/64/EU). What about so call

[PSES] ROHS vs. Safety critical products (SIL, etc)

2017-01-16 Thread Amund Westin
ROHS mention some exemption of products in the latest directive (Article 2 in 2011/64/EU). What about so called "Safety critical products", such as IEC61508 certified products ... are they outside the ROHS scope? I do not think so, but I have heard rumors that it might be outside, so I want to

Re: [PSES] RoHS and CE Discussion for component

2016-07-22 Thread Graevinghoff Andreas (ETAS/EHS2)
ctors: Friedhelm Pickhard, Bernd Hergert, Christopher White Chairman of the Supervisory Board: Dr. Walter Schirm Registered Office: Stuttgart; Registration Court: Amtsgericht Stuttgart HRB 19033 From: Mark Schmidt [mailto:markschm...@xrite.com] Sent: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 22:55 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSE

[PSES] RoHS and CE Discussion for component

2016-07-21 Thread Mark Schmidt
Hello group, I am having discussions with my team here in Michigan about what mandatory marks need to be on a device or component that is currently being developed. It will be a small measurement device rated 5 VDC @ 1.2 A. The device/component goes into a larger (ITE) system which will

Re: [PSES] RoHS directive

2014-11-22 Thread John Allen
Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: 21 November 2014 22:25 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS directive The boys in our Tijuana factory were asking why so many suppliers' regulatory/compliance docs were hosed. Could only reply that el

Re: [PSES] RoHS directive

2014-11-22 Thread Han Zuyderwijk
Brian, You are correct, the reference should be to 2011/65/EU. The old directive is repealed as per 3 January 2013. Kind Regards, Han On Nov 21, 2014, at 8:43 PM, Brian Oconnell oconne...@tamuracorp.com wrote: The boss questioned the way declarations are written after looking at some

Re: [PSES] RoHS directive

2014-11-21 Thread Charlie Blackham
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RoHS directive The boss questioned the way declarations are written after looking at some other's documents where their D of C is worded thus: Directive 2002/95/EC (and its amendments and 2011/65/EU) Is not the RoHS directive now 2011/65 ? Is the 2002/95 stuff

Re: [PSES] RoHS directive

2014-11-21 Thread John Allen
. West London UK From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: 21 November 2014 19:54 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS directive Brian 2002 version is obsolete and should not be referenced ( it wasn't a CE marking directive either) Regards

Re: [PSES] RoHS directive

2014-11-21 Thread John Allen
that only 2011/65/EU be stated. John Allen From: John Allen [mailto:john_e_al...@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 21 November 2014 20:18 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS directive Agreed- see Article 26 “Repeal” of 2011/65/EU, (RoHS 2) which states: “Directive 2002/95/EC

Re: [PSES] RoHS directive

2014-11-21 Thread Brian Oconnell
Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS directive And then I re-read it and see that you could interpret a DoC to mean that reference to 2002/95/EC means that the declaration is NOT a reference to 2011/65/EU! Most confusing if you don’t know of Art 26 – in which case an Authority could reject it as out of date

[PSES] RoHS

2014-06-11 Thread Moshe Henig
Dear team I need to perform RoHS 2 XRF and Chemical analysis to a medical equipment with external charger The charger has all regulatory approvals for medical. The Charger manufacturer issued RoHS decleration. Is this decleration sufficient or I need to perform XRF and Chemical analysis.

Re: [PSES] RoHS for common hardware

2014-06-03 Thread John Woodgate
In message 00bd01cf7eb5$53648270$fa2d8750$@cs.com, dated Mon, 2 Jun 2014, Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org writes: Sometimes it seems impossible to get RoHS compliance docs for misc small hardware. Wot common approach is your company taking for such? Newark

Re: [PSES] RoHS for common hardware

2014-06-03 Thread Knudsen, Patricia
-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 3:52 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RoHS for common hardware Colleagues, Sometimes it seems impossible to get RoHS compliance docs for misc small hardware. Wot common approach is your company taking

[PSES] RoHS for common hardware

2014-06-02 Thread Pete Perkins
Colleagues, Sometimes it seems impossible to get RoHS compliance docs for misc small hardware. Wot common approach is your company taking for such? :) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety Engineer PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-23 Thread Nick Williams
Lauren, Are you able to point to anything published by the Commission on this? Nick. On 20 May 2014, at 18:15, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com wrote: It has recently been interpreted (by Commission and other authorities) as prohibiting the resale of any in-scope but

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-23 Thread Crane, Lauren
July 2019. Hope that helps Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -Original Message- From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 6:53 AM To: Crane, Lauren Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware Lauren, Are you able

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message 003301cf73df$89a38510$9cea8f30$@cs.com, dated Mon, 19 May 2014, Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org writes:   It's one thing to have a Directive which depends upon 'good faith' in some way - which the RoHS program has been depending upon for some years now - but to

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message d22e43ccd5394f3d829c9f5b5764a...@thhste15d1be4.hs20.net, dated Tue, 20 May 2014, Charlie Blackham char...@sulisconsultants.com writes: Compliance requirements are discussed on https://www.gov.uk/rohs-compliance-and-guidance   ?Due diligence? is the name of the game.   And from

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread Charlie Blackham
isn't going to have 10kg of homogenous material Charlie -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 20 May 2014 12:53 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware In message d22e43ccd5394f3d829c9f5b5764a...@thhste15d1be4.hs20.net

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message 57e1de017da548f694a6d03394b38...@thhste15d1be4.hs20.net, dated Tue, 20 May 2014, Charlie Blackham char...@sulisconsultants.com writes: But these are valid in Britain only, not Europe-wide Yes, but there is (meant to be) co-ordination between enforcement bodies. It's NOT the

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread John Cotman
What makes even less sense is that RoHS has gone the % per homogeneous material route, whereas REACH limits are the %age by weight of the complete product. John C On 20 May 2014, at 14:08, John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk wrote: In message

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message c7ef2973-9b5b-45cd-b580-f46862671...@conformance.co.uk, dated Tue, 20 May 2014, John Cotman john.cot...@conformance.co.uk writes: What makes even less sense is that RoHS has gone the % per homogeneous material route, whereas REACH limits are the %age by weight of the complete

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread Crane, Lauren
One nuance of the RoHS challenge, is its potential impact to the used equipment market. As recent discussions here have shown, it's hard enough to 'prove' conformance for products currently in production. Even more so for used products that will be newly on the EU market (imported). Since it

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread John Cotman
Yes, equipment imported for own use does not need to be RoHS compliant as you say. What happens when the importer no longer needs it is an interesting question, though. It would seem that it can't legally be sold, but it can be thrown away. This is rather perverse, given that environmental

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message fc549dd1-1f68-46e1-baf5-463482b34...@conformance.co.uk, dated Tue, 20 May 2014, John Cotman john.cot...@conformance.co.uk writes: Yes, equipment imported for own use does not need to be RoHS compliant as you say. What happens when the importer no longer needs it is an interesting

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread Crane, Lauren
, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 10:48 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware In message fc549dd1-1f68-46e1-baf5-463482b34...@conformance.co.uk, dated Tue, 20 May 2014

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message e758c0fcde4a41f2b615646852fab...@blupr03mb119.namprd03.prod.outlook.com , dated Tue, 20 May 2014, Crane, Lauren lauren.cr...@kla-tencor.com writes: Of course, RoHS applies to all otherwise-in-scope second-hand products made at any time that are newly placed on the EU market (from a

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread Dan Roman, N.C.E.
On 05/20/14, John Woodgatejmw@JMWA.DEMON.CO.UK wrote:At least it seems that the requirement to discard (dead) fish that shouldn't have been caught is being changed. Maybe someone, thinking no further than line fishing in a river, thought that if thrown back they would come alive again.I believe

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-20 Thread John Woodgate
In message 29772537.1146244.1400616153990.JavaMail.root@vms170027, dated Tue, 20 May 2014, Dan Roman, N.C.E. danp...@verizon.net writes: I believe the reasoning for the fish is if they allowed fisherman to keep the by-catch they would have no incentive to avoid catching what they were not

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-19 Thread John Cotman
Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 – phone 858-485-3788 – fax (unattended) From: Mark Schmidt [mailto:mark.schm...@dornerworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:04 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware Brian, May I

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-19 Thread John Woodgate
In message 554dbd57-d1f3-4c4a-bade-09fedbcfe...@conformance.co.uk, dated Mon, 19 May 2014, John Cotman john.cot...@conformance.co.uk writes: It's a shockingly bad piece of standard writing. There may be a reason.  Requirements in standards must be objective and measurable, such that

[PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-14 Thread Kunde, Brian
Our internal people working on and maintaining RoHS compliance are having a very difficult time getting the cooperation we need from our Hardware suppliers (nuts, bolts, washers, etc.). Our company manufacturers a relatively small quantity of products so it is impossible for us to purchase

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-14 Thread John Woodgate
In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB026954D2@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Wed, 14 May 2014, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: In fact, some of our “specialty hardware” has such a long supply chain in most cases we cannot even find out who made the part.   As an

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-14 Thread Doug Powell
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: John Woodgate Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware In message 64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB026954D2@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local, dated Wed, 14 May 2014, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com writes: In fact, some of our “specialty hardware” has such a long supply

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-14 Thread Anthony Thomson
sites. Drop me an email if your need supplier suggestions for specific parts. Just a thought. Tony - Original Message - From: Kunde, Brian Sent: 05/14/14 02:09 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware Our internal people working on and maintaining RoHS compliance

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-14 Thread Knighten, Jim L
[mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:10 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware Our internal people working on and maintaining RoHS compliance are having a very difficult time getting the cooperation we need from our Hardware suppliers (nuts, bolts

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-14 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
- Original Message - From: Anthony Thomson ton...@europe.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:40:05 AM Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware Could you purchase parts from the UK or Europe? RoHS is pretty much the 'norm' in Europe and the small volume

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-14 Thread Kunde, Brian
Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 – phone 858-485-3788 – fax (unattended) From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:10 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RoHS

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Schmidt
...@lecotc.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 3:25 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware Jim, This is exactly the motivation behind my original email. How can the trustworthiness of a supplier be evaluated without testing? In a long supply chain it only takes one buyer

Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware

2014-05-14 Thread Knighten, Jim L
...@dornerworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:04 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] RoHS on Hardware Brian, May I be candid here. A local hardware store in the USA is not going to have traceability to RoHS compliance. It is highly likely they won’t even know what it is. Testing

[PSES] RoHS Software Tools?

2014-01-06 Thread Kunde, Brian
Happy New Year!!! My boss is looking for help and advice. He is in charge of tracking RoHS, Reach, County of Origin, etc. status on all components and assemblies our company deals with. He wonders if there is a Turn-Key software program or database system that is geared toward tracking this

Re: [PSES] RoHS Software Tools?

2014-01-06 Thread Bayo Olabisi
One suggestion - Silicon Expert, www.siliconexpert.com On Monday, January 6, 2014 12:23 PM, Kunde, Brian brian_ku...@lecotc.com wrote: Happy New Year!!!   My boss is looking for help and advice. He is in charge of tracking RoHS, Reach, County of Origin, etc. status on all components and

Re: [PSES] RoHS Software Tools?

2014-01-06 Thread Brian Oconnell
required reports tracking documents. Brian From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 9:16 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RoHS Software Tools? Happy New Year!!!   My boss is looking for help and advice. He is in charge of tracking RoHS, Reach

Re: [PSES] RoHS Software Tools?

2014-01-06 Thread Marko Radojicic
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RoHS Software Tools? Happy New Year!!!   My boss is looking for help and advice. He is in charge of tracking RoHS, Reach, County of Origin, etc. status on all components and assemblies our company deals with. He wonders if there is a Turn-Key

Re: [PSES] RoHS Software Tools?

2014-01-06 Thread Dan Roman, N.C.E.
I guess the first place I would look is your currentPDMdatabase vendor (e.g. Oracle, SAP) or your PDM front-end vendor (e.g. Agile) to see if their existing offerings do what you want or can be customized to give you what you want. This would probably be the cleanest approach and keep all your

[PSES] RoHS 2 - Definition of Industrial Monitoring Equipment

2013-07-09 Thread Carl Newton
Group, I'm trying to find some reputable definitions of industrial monitoring equipment as it relates to RoHS 2. There is a very brief reference in the WEEE Directive Annex IB which refers to equipment installed within an industrial control panel, and that example is much too narrow. The

Re: [PSES] RoHS 2 - Definition of Industrial Monitoring Equipment

2013-07-09 Thread John Woodgate
In message 006601ce7cce$ea8f2540$bfad6fc0$@gmail.com, dated Tue, 9 Jul 2013, Carl Newton emcl...@gmail.com writes: I?m trying to find some reputable definitions of industrial monitoring equipment as it relates to RoHS 2.  Does it matter? I'm not all that familiar with RoHS2, but I guess that

Re: [PSES] RoHS 2 - Definition of Industrial Monitoring Equipment

2013-07-09 Thread Steven Brody
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RoHS 2 - Definition of Industrial Monitoring Equipment Group, I'm trying to find some reputable definitions of industrial monitoring equipment as it relates to RoHS 2. There is a very brief reference in the WEEE Directive Annex IB which refers

Re: [PSES] RoHS 2 - Definition of Industrial Monitoring Equipment

2013-07-09 Thread Brian Oconnell
What safety standards are scoped? What EMC standards are scoped? A stand-alone handheld device is typically not industrial equipment, but you have until 2017 for monitoring equipment. Your stuff needs to be defined in Article 2(4). Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] RoHS 2 - Definition of Industrial Monitoring Equipment

2013-07-09 Thread Crane, Lauren
. http://ec.europa.eu/environment/waste/pdf/era_study_final_report.pdf Regards, Lauren Crane KLA-Tencor From: Carl Newton [mailto:emcl...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 1:06 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] RoHS 2 - Definition of Industrial Monitoring Equipment Group, I'm

Re: [PSES] RoHS 2 - Definition of Industrial Monitoring Equipment

2013-07-09 Thread Carl Newton
; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] RoHS 2 - Definition of Industrial Monitoring Equipment I have experience with the question, but no experience getting a good answer. I have had the opinion that test and measurement equipment is different from monitoring and control equipment

[PSES] ROHS/REACH/WEEE

2013-06-25 Thread Shawn Singh
Hi All,   Looking for a ROHS/REACH/WEEE consultant preferably from New Jersey/New York/Pennsylvania area.   Thanks,   SS - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a

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