Re: modest proposal

2000-03-30 Thread Paul Rampelbergh
Hi Egon, Languages are part of what is called culture, you remember? Sometimes its time to take a peanut and find-out it was grown on something bigger, and that thing was on something even bigger, and bigger, and bigger, the world. Paul On Tue, 28 Mar 2000 16:52:57 +0200, you wrote:

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2000-03-29 Thread Barry Ma
Sorry for bothering those who are not interested in. Rene, Please forgive me Fwding your email to the group. Barry Ma --- Start of forwarded message --- Subject: Re: modest proposal - unl at unu.edu To: Barry Ma barry...@altavista.com From: r...@twn.tuv.com List-Post: emc-pstc

RE: modest proposal

2000-03-29 Thread Joe Finlayson
-0909 x212 Fax:(508) 480-0922 Email: jfinlay...@telica.com -Original Message- From: Gert Gremmen [mailto:cet...@cetest.nl] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 1:28 PM To: geor...@lexmark.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: modest proposal Thank you, Thank you, and applause Regards

Re: modest proposal - unl at unu.edu

2000-03-29 Thread rc
:07:25 AM Please respond to Barry Ma barry...@altavista.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org cc: Lou Gnecco l...@tempest-inc.com (bcc: Rene Charton/TUV-Twn) Subject: Re: modest proposal Hi Lou, There must be some day in the future, the artificial intelligence has been so well developed that (1

RE: modest proposal

2000-03-28 Thread Egon H. Varju
Jim, Trust me, apart from providing a bit of humour, these translation programs don't work worth a sheet. grin Mind you, the original creator of Babel Fish does give you the correct answer: 42. BTW, from the ego-deflating department, the country with the most English speaking people is

RE: modest proposal

2000-03-28 Thread Barry Ma
Ed, Thanks. Here is my basic $0.02. Most of time spent learning a foreign language is to remember vocabulary. This is not a creative job. The most precious resource - our brain should be gradually released from downloading burden. Barry Ma b...@anritsu.com -- On Tue, 28 March

RE: modest proposal

2000-03-28 Thread Grant, Tania (Tania)
Applications Group -- From: Doug [SMTP:dmck...@gte.net] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 7:11 PM To: EMC-PSTC Discussion Group Subject: Re: modest proposal I've heard efforts of a universal translator through Java being worked on as we speak. You'll be able to go to any website

RE: modest proposal

2000-03-28 Thread John Juhasz
As always . . . very well written, George. -Original Message- From: geor...@lexmark.com [mailto:geor...@lexmark.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 11:20 AM To: m.r...@ieee.org Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: modest proposal Martin, Your post included the following: * We, the ugly

RE: modest proposal

2000-03-28 Thread Gert Gremmen
/-/ === -Original Message- From: owner-emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of geor...@lexmark.com Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 6:20 PM To: m.r...@ieee.org Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: modest proposal Martin, Your post included the following

Re: modest proposal

2000-03-28 Thread georgea
Martin, Your post included the following: * We, the ugly Americans, want the world to conform to our native language. We're too lazy, stubborn, and arrogant to learn another language. You may be partially right, but I believe there is a much simpler explanation. It is human nature to do

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2000-03-28 Thread Martin Rowe (TMW)
As perhaps the only member of this list who works for a publishing company, let me explain why a designed language won't work. * We, the ugly Americans, want the world to conform to our native language. We're too lazy, stubborn, and arrogant to learn another language. * A designed

RE: modest proposal

2000-03-28 Thread Egon H. Varju
This is really becoming a completely pointless discussion. Most of the people on this forum appear to be native English speakers. In my experience, native English speakers have absolutely no motivation or desire to learn any other language. Furthermore, a large percentage of the allegedly

Re: modest proposal

2000-03-28 Thread Doug
I've heard efforts of a universal translator through Java being worked on as we speak. You'll be able to go to any website written in any language and see it in your default language. I only hope they fix the little language snafus that crop up. And perhaps the death of having to learn

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2000-03-28 Thread Anil Allamaneni
From: Barry Ma There must be some day in the future, the artificial intelligence has been so well developed that (1) An instant interpreting machine built-in to your PC . or brain. Remember, you need to meet class B limits though :-)) --- This

RE: modest proposal

2000-03-28 Thread Grant, Tania (Tania)
Technologies, Communications Applications Group -- From: Paul Rampelbergh [SMTP:rampelberg...@swing.be] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 3:24 PM To: ieee pstc list Cc: Lou Gnecco Subject: Re: modest proposal Hi there, A little bit behind the subject, i take the opportunity to express my

RE: modest proposal

2000-03-28 Thread Anil Allamaneni
...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Paul Rampelbergh Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 3:24 PM To: ieee pstc list Cc: Lou Gnecco Subject: Re: modest proposal Hi there, A little bit behind the subject, i take the opportunity to express my opinion in general on english and at the end a NEW proposal (maybe). I'm from

Re: modest proposal

2000-03-28 Thread Barry Ma
Hi Lou, There must be some day in the future, the artificial intelligence has been so well developed that (1) An instant interpreting machine built-in to your PC would automatically transfer any language you input (either typed or voiced) to any languages the other party would like to have.

Re: modest proposal

2000-03-27 Thread Ken Javor
I'll buy into this when all people who speak a common language get along with each other... -- From: Muriel Bittencourt de Liz mur...@grucad.ufsc.br To: EMC-PSTC List emc-p...@ieee.org Cc: Lou Gnecco l...@tempest-inc.com Subject: Re: modest proposal Date: Mon, Mar 27, 2000, 9:24 AM

Re: modest proposal

2000-03-27 Thread Paul Rampelbergh
(word) and then its abbreviated equivalent. Final modest proposal for a solution (maybe): I suggest to use hieroglyphics in stead of abbreviations, its more image speaking and universal for everybody but i'm afraid it will require an extra language on my computer. Hey Mr MicroSoft! Consider

RE: modest proposal

2000-03-27 Thread Lacey,Scott
: Muriel Bittencourt de Liz [SMTP:mur...@grucad.ufsc.br] Sent: Monday, March 27, 2000 12:25 PM To: EMC-PSTC List Cc: Lou Gnecco Subject:Re: modest proposal Group, I think this discussion of language is very important. Why? I'll

RE: A modest proposal.

2000-03-27 Thread Gorodetsky, Vitaly
: A modest proposal. Well said. -- From: Grant, Tania (Tania) tgr...@lucent.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org, 'Lou Gnecco' l...@tempest-inc.com Subject: RE: A modest proposal. Date: Sun, Mar 26, 2000, 4:32 PM Lou, Esperanto (the language) had international backing. Where

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2000-03-27 Thread Muriel Bittencourt de Liz
Group, I think this discussion of language is very important. Why? I'll speak for myself... During the last centuries/years, most of the third-world or developing countries (as you prefer) has adopted the idea of buying technologies instead of developing its own. Together with that, has come

Re: A modest proposal.

2000-03-27 Thread Paul J Smith
/Bos/Teradyne) Subject: Re: A modest proposal. More on BASIC English, etc: _The Oxford Companion to the English Language_ (ISBN 0-19-214123-X) has entries about BASIC English, Airspeak (ICAO English), Seaspeak and restricted vocabulary English. Things in modern usage we old f*rts might object

RE: modest proposal

2000-03-27 Thread Kretsch, John
. -Original Message- From: Lou Gnecco [mailto:l...@tempest-inc.com] Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2000 20:54 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: modest proposal To all who replied: Thanks for the quick and hearty responses! I certainly agree that the world does not need

Re: modest proposal

2000-03-27 Thread Paolo . Roncone
Hi all, that's the world we live in. Like it or not, English is the de-facto international language, especially in the technical/scientific community. I personally enjoy participating in this forum mostly for its invaluable technical contents but I also find it a very useful tool for improving

Re: A modest proposal.

2000-03-27 Thread Canio Dichirico
: A modest proposal. Group: Having subscribed to this group for over a year now, I am really impressed by how easily we hold technical bull sessions with emc engineers from all over the world. This is a fabulous service of the ieee. There is only one problem with it: ya gotta speak

Re: A modest proposal.

2000-03-27 Thread Cortland Richmond
More on BASIC English, etc: _The Oxford Companion to the English Language_ (ISBN 0-19-214123-X) has entries about BASIC English, Airspeak (ICAO English), Seaspeak and restricted vocabulary English. Things in modern usage we old f*rts might object to are hardly addressed by these abbreviated

Re: A modest proposal.

2000-03-27 Thread Ken Javor
Well said. -- From: Grant, Tania (Tania) tgr...@lucent.com To: emc-p...@ieee.org, 'Lou Gnecco' l...@tempest-inc.com Subject: RE: A modest proposal. Date: Sun, Mar 26, 2000, 4:32 PM Lou, Esperanto (the language) had international backing. Where is it now? Who is using

Re: A modest proposal.

2000-03-26 Thread Cortland Richmond
-Mar-00 17:22:17 MsgID: 1070-77799 ToID: 72146,373 From: Lou Gnecco INTERNET:l...@tempest-inc.com Subj: A modest proposal. Chrg: $0.00 Imp: Norm Sens: StdReceipt: NoParts: 1 List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:14:51 -0500 From: Lou Gnecco l...@tempest

A modest proposal.

2000-03-26 Thread Lou Gnecco
Group: Having subscribed to this group for over a year now, I am really impressed by how easily we hold technical bull sessions with emc engineers from all over the world. This is a fabulous service of the ieee. There is only one problem with it: ya gotta speak english. If an