Neil,
Here is a copy of the statutory exemptions straight out of part
2. There are other temporary exempting while compliance is being
obtained. Basically, you can't sell it or market without compliance, but
you can mark it and send it to customers for trial but you must replace
it or make
Less seriously, I still favour the proposal to use DIC (drive-in
certification) in WC (World Certification mark), that some twit suggested
in this forum early last April.
Egon :-)
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E.H. Varju Associates Ltd.
North Vancouver, Canada
Jim,
But then we'd all have to pay royalties for using the WM (ugh...). Would the
collected funds be thrown into the bottomless depository in Dayton? And I
thought the IRS was powerful. :-)
Best regards,
Ron Pickard
ron_pick...@hypercom.com
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Ron,
I'm already buying additional shares of NCR in anticipation of boom in
revenues.
Jim
Dr. Jim Knightene-mail: jim.knigh...@sandiegoca.ncr.com
Senior Consulting Engineer
NCR
17095 Via del Campo
San Diego, CA 92127 http://www.ncr.com
Tel: 619-485-2537
Fax:
How about a little constructive anarchy? Suppose a large number of
companies decided all at the same time to take a stand on this. Suppose
each company took all of the Certification marks off their products
except one for safety and one for EMC.
At first, countries with mandatory
Well, not to be left out of the fray, I already have started my little
piece of the anarchy. I am down to two marks on the cert. label. I still
pay two agencies, only because I don't want to take on more work than I
already have. I do one test one time and, if needed, pass those results to
the
Greetings,
A few years ago at a NEMKO seminar I attended, there was a
presentation on the key mark. Because it looked like a key and would
open doors to all markets. I believe this was a proposal from the IEC.
Anyone hear any recent developments on this possibility? I imagine
with the CE
Sounds crazy to have so many marks and certifications for the same things.
Some of you already know about the new mark QualMark and TUV Product
Service are offering, Qht Certification. Given the current climate against
more bumper stickers, I just wanted to give you guys a heads up on how Qht
From: John Garrett@HNS on 09/11/98 11:02 AM
To: ieee pstc list emc-p...@ieee.org
cc:
Subject: Inrush current and utility power line reistance
Hello All,
I have a question with respect to the typical resistance of the mains
utility wiring; from the mains utility transformer into a
Hi John,
Your mark? I guess your opinions are not exactly unbiased.
You seem to be much too serious going into a weekend. My experience has shown
that Friday is either a day of catching your breath from the scenarios of the
week, or having to run faster to catch up until you run off the
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From: Laurie Mead lm...@qualmark.com
To: UMBDENSTOCK, DON umbdenst...@sensormatic.com; 'emc-pstc'
emc-p...@ieee.org; 'Dan Mitchell' dmitch...@eoscorp.com
Subject: Re: Are all these agencies really necessary?
Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 9:30 AM
Sounds crazy to have so many
Does anyone know what the requirements are in JAPAN for Information
Technology equipment using LASERS.
Is IEC60825 used or do they have their own requirements?
Regards,
Kris
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Members,
As optimistic as I would like to be, it's much to early to suggest global
integration of a world mark, therefore I must agree with one of our
customers who recently suggested a substitute marking in lieu of the OM or
WM.
SOOL.(shit out of
Ray,
Turns out that UL just did an story on it in their On the Mark
magazine Summer 1998 Volume 2, Number 2, page 7. Makes interesting
reading particularly in the light of the discussion we have going. Here
is an interesting excerpt -
Although the CE Marking was introduced by the
Hello from San Diego:
Two questions about Euro cordage:
1. HAR mark.
I have heard that this mark can only be used when
the cordage is manufactured in a factory physically
located within the HAR countries. Is this true?
Can you cite the HAR regulation?
2. CE mark.
I
John -
Try the test at a phase angle of 0 or 180 degrees. You should come a lot
closer to your calculated inrush current of 56.6. You are making the mistake
of seeing the input section of the power supply as a straight resistance
circuit. It is more inductive and will behave differently when the
Hello Rich,
A) I've not heard that CE Markings should go on cordage but .
B) I believe that HAR Harmonized Cordage is a CENELEC program and only
available to CENELEC member countries and manufacturers located therein.
Regards, Art Michael, Editor
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allen...@ul.com writes:
Well, gee lets see. I work forTherefore I want my mark to go away and
make everyone who is in this business equal.
OK, how about this. Everyone remove their brand name from products. Let's
have one mark and generic products only. Thats a free market system
right???
The inrush currents I have dealth with in the past were determined by I = C x
dV/dt primarily determined by the input EMI filter's capacitance.
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Rich, let me muddy the waters a bit. A power cord assembly requires three,
yes, three approvals. One each for the wire, the plug and the socket. The
HAR marking is just for the wire. An agency mark is required for the plug
and the socket. Also, from somewhere in my dark memory, I recall that the
I found the info on the thread colors:
Length of colors on thread (in cm)
Country Black Red Yellow
Austria 3 1 5
Belguim 1 3 1
Denmark 3 1 3
France 3 3 1
Germany 3 1 1
Italy 1
Ok, here is yet another potentially contentious view:
It seems interesting that this discussion should come on the heels of the
recent threads discussing the fundamental nature of compliance and confidence
building.
In the discussion about adequacy of manufacturer statements of compliance, a
ANSI C63.7:1992, Guide for Construction of Open-Area Test Sites for
Performing Radiated Emissions Measurements. We used this guide when we built
our 10 m site and we had no problem in passing the site atttenuation test.
Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
wo...@sensormatic.com
Views expressed
You may already be aware of this, however, based on personal
experience I would endeavour to ensure that your
OATS is constructed in an area where ambient signals are minimal.
I.E away from industrial areas and as low as possible (in a valley?) in
order to reduce levels of VHF interference.
Peter
Well if it's a pissing match you want, I won't have any part of it. I
choose to stick with the facts, not the high and mighty attitude of your
employer.
Some small labs (none I am aware of) might want this mark, but from those I
have heard from it is mostly those in industry. They are the ones
In addition, I would suggest to place your site as far as you can get it
from above-ground power poles.
Our site is located about 250 feet from the closest power poles. We started
out with a clean site with occasional random interference which eventually
grew until it washed out any meaningful
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