Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder Sequential

2021-01-26 Thread Todd Zuercher
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder Sequential On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 06:07, Dave Cole wrote: > > Do you mean writing a sequencer in Classic Ladder? > As in step logic? CL supports state based sequential logic, using GRAFCET. http://www.lin

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder Sequential

2021-01-26 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 at 06:07, Dave Cole wrote: > > Do you mean writing a sequencer in Classic Ladder? > As in step logic? CL supports state based sequential logic, using GRAFCET. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/2.5/html/ladder/classic_ladder_es.html#_grafcet_programming There are some

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder Sequential

2021-01-25 Thread Dave Cole
Do you mean writing a sequencer in Classic Ladder? As in step logic? Dave On 1/25/2021 4:33 PM, Todd Zuercher wrote: Does anyone have any examples of Classicladder using a Sequential program? Todd Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street Dalton, Ohio

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder Sequential

2021-01-25 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2021-01-25 kl. 22:33, skrev Todd Zuercher: Does anyone have any examples of Classicladder using a Sequential program? Guess you have to implement it as a state machine? Came to the conclusion there is two methods to implement programs. Sequential there program may stop and wait for

[Emc-users] Classicladder Sequential

2021-01-25 Thread Todd Zuercher
Does anyone have any examples of Classicladder using a Sequential program? Todd Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder with modbus and no GUI

2014-01-04 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Dear, thank you for the answers, I'll check for hide pin I think I have latest version available 2.5.3. I finished debugging my program and find out that all modbus parameters are deleted from clp file if I use --nogui option. I need modbus communication all the time so I'm able to adjust servo

[Emc-users] Classicladder with modbus and no GUI

2014-01-03 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Dear all, is there a way to load classicladder without GUI (--nogui option) as modbus master? Best regards Klemen -- Rapidly troubleshoot problems before they affect your business. Most IT organizations don't have a

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder with modbus and no GUI

2014-01-03 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Klemen If you just want to test the CL stuff you can download the the Classic Ladder program from the creators website. You will have to find the version that matches the one used in LCNC. For some reason the classic ladder program was not upgraded as time went by. I cannot recall the website

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder with modbus and no GUI

2014-01-03 Thread Marius Liebenberg
You can find the latest here http://sourceforge.net/projects/classicladder/ I did contact the creator ad was given the correct version for LCNC. The latest version's output files are not compatible with LCNC. Hope this helps. On 2014-01-04 07:27, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Klemen If you just

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder with modbus and no GUI

2014-01-03 Thread Chris Morley
Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 22:42:14 +0100 From: klemen.oze...@gmail.com To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Classicladder with modbus and no GUI Dear all, is there a way to load classicladder without GUI (--nogui option) as modbus master? Best regards Klemen

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder with modbus and no GUI

2014-01-03 Thread Chris Morley
. You will have to find the version that matches the one used in LCNC. For some reason the classic ladder program was not upgraded as time went by. This is because it is a lot of work to convert it for LCNC, and there has been no compelling reason to. If CL supported floats for instance, I

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder with modbus and no GUI

2014-01-03 Thread Marius Liebenberg
On 2014-01-04 08:04, Chris Morley wrote: This is because it is a lot of work to convert it for LCNC, and there has been no compelling reason to. If CL supported floats for instance, I would probably do it again. I agree. If it works well enough without too many problems, leave it as it is. I

[Emc-users] ClassicLadder Modbus without Editor Window

2013-10-07 Thread Ricardo Moscoloni
In a recent thread about modbus Dave Cole wrote: Chris Morly made a change about a year ago so the window could be closed while Classic Ladder was still running. He added a Hal bit to allow that. I'm not sure where it was pushed to, but it was really nice. :-) I made a cl rung for running

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder Modbus without Editor Window

2013-10-07 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Pass the option nogui when you instantiate the ladder logic. On 2013/10/07 02:54 PM, Ricardo Moscoloni wrote: In a recent thread about modbus Dave Cole wrote: Chris Morly made a change about a year ago so the window could be closed while Classic Ladder was still running. He added a Hal bit

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder Modbus without Editor Window

2013-10-07 Thread Chris Morley
Pass the option nogui when you instantiate the ladder logic. If using CL modbus you can't do that. It doesn't start the user program, which is what runs modbus. On 2013/10/07 02:54 PM, Ricardo Moscoloni wrote: In a recent thread about modbus Dave Cole wrote: Chris Morly made a change

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder Modbus without Editor Window

2013-10-07 Thread Ricardo Moscoloni
maaany thanks Chris, and Marius too for the answers. Im running master,i have seen that hide_gui pin half million of times...and forget to remember another half. regards rick 2013/10/7 Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com: Pass the option nogui when you instantiate the ladder logic.

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder Float Question

2013-04-19 Thread John Thornton
Not sure if you read the manual but floats are converted to s32's in classicladder. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/ladder/classic_ladder.html#_classic_ladder_variables JT On 4/19/2013 1:21 AM, Clint Washburn wrote: Trying to set up the tool changer...I am not seeing the value change for the

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder Float Question

2013-04-19 Thread John Thornton
You don't say what kind of tool changer you have but my turret tool changer config files are here http://www.gnipsel.com/shop/hardinge/hardinge.xhtml JT On 4/19/2013 1:21 AM, Clint Washburn wrote: Trying to set up the tool changer...I am not seeing the value change for the floated input in

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder Float Question

2013-04-19 Thread clint
I have the toolchanger set up to run completly with classicladder. At the moment I have tested it manually using pyvcp buttons to execute the changer manually. Now I am at the point where I would like to execute the changer via a program or mdi command. Reading the documentation in my

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder Float Question

2013-04-19 Thread John Thornton
I created an example of a tool changer with pyvcp buttons to act as inputs... it is in this thread. http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/30-cnc-machines/25790-petes-cincinatti-arrow-500-retrofit?start=50#32219 Tn will only put the integer into tool prep and nothing else. Look at M6 and

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder Float Question - suggested change to docs wording

2013-04-19 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 4/19/2013 12:40 PM, John Thornton wrote: I created an example of a tool changer with pyvcp buttons to act as inputs... it is in this thread. http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/30-cnc-machines/25790-petes-cincinatti-arrow-500-retrofit?start=50#32219 Tn will only put the integer

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder file compatibility

2013-03-08 Thread Marius Liebenberg
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder file compatibility Hi Chris, I discovered the version issue. I was under the impression (i dont know why anymore) that I could only activate the ladder editor with linuxcnc running. I am doing all the editing outside of linuxcnc as I dont have

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder file compatibility

2013-03-07 Thread Chris Morley
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 07:27:38 +0200 From: mar...@mastercut.co.za To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder file compatibility Hi Chris, I discovered the version issue. I was under the impression (i dont know why anymore) that I could only activate

[Emc-users] Classicladder file compatibility

2013-03-03 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Hi, I am trying to use the Classicladder editor program - not LinuxCnc - to work on ladder programs before I impliment them on an installation. The problem is that I cannot get the Classicladder program to save the files as .clp it only saves as a .clprj file. Anyone know how to get around

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder file compatibility

2013-03-03 Thread Chris Morley
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 23:01:26 +0200 From: mar...@mastercut.co.za To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Classicladder file compatibility Hi, I am trying to use the Classicladder editor program - not LinuxCnc - to work on ladder programs before I impliment them

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder file compatibility

2013-03-03 Thread Chris Morley
Linuxcnc use a modified version of 7.125. You can get older versions classicladder from the sourceforge website. I'm not sure when Marc switched to the new format. Chris M I'm curious though, Why not just use linuxcnc's version? linuxcnc's version

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder file compatibility

2013-03-03 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Hi Chris, I discovered the version issue. I was under the impression (i dont know why anymore) that I could only activate the ladder editor with linuxcnc running. I am doing all the editing outside of linuxcnc as I dont have the customers machine with me. How would I call the ladder that is

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-28 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/10/28 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com: Crosstalk between spindle power lines and solenoid control lines perhaps? As it can be seen in that video, it is purely in software. 2012/10/28 sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com: I have not had that happen that I know of... Some things to

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-28 Thread John Thornton
A copy of the ladder file would be a big clue to look at. John On 10/27/2012 6:32 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: Hello! While working in premises of my customer to add new automatic material loading/unloading module for one of my machines, I have encountered strange error in ClassicLadder. I

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-28 Thread John Thornton
Sam was talking about a classicladder output. You never have more than one output in a ladder logic as the status of the last one wins and that will be the state of the output when they are updated. John On 10/28/2012 3:38 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/10/28 Jason Burton

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-28 Thread Jason Burton
Sorry, posted from my phone (didn't see the video). On Oct 28, 2012 3:44 AM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/10/28 Jason Burton lathebuil...@gmail.com: Crosstalk between spindle power lines and solenoid control lines perhaps? As it can be seen in that video, it is purely

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-28 Thread Fernando Mederos
Hi, You can not multiplex coils, as inactive coils will force a 0 to the signal. With internal coils will happen the same. Or should I put all the possible inputs for certain output in one rung This is one way to do it. You may also use set/reset coils instead of normal coils, these you can

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-28 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/10/28 Fernando Mederos fmede...@gmail.com: Hi, You can not multiplex coils, as inactive coils will force a 0 to the signal. With internal coils will happen the same. Or should I put all the possible inputs for certain output in one rung This is one way to do it. You may also use

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-28 Thread jeremy youngs
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[Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-27 Thread Viesturs Lācis
Hello! While working in premises of my customer to add new automatic material loading/unloading module for one of my machines, I have encountered strange error in ClassicLadder. I took a video on my phone with it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YjkGbpuT50 I will try to explain: The idea is to

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-27 Thread s...@highlab.com
Can you reproduce it in sim? -- Sebastian Kuzminsky - Reply message - From: Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Oct 27, 2012 17:32 Subject: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Hello! While working

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-27 Thread Jason Burton
Crosstalk between spindle power lines and solenoid control lines perhaps? On Oct 27, 2012 6:36 PM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! While working in premises of my customer to add new automatic material loading/unloading module for one of my machines, I have encountered

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder error

2012-10-27 Thread sam sokolik
I have not had that happen that I know of... Some things to check on is if you have enough objects allocated in your hal file.. (ie loadrt classicladder_rt numRungs=12 numBits=100 numWords=10 numTimers=10 numMonostables=10 numCounters=10 numPhysInputs?=10 numPhysOutputs?=10

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-13 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Hi, in terminal window i get following text without any values: ## RTAI latency calibration tool ## # period = 10 (ns) # avrgtime = 1 (s) # do not use the FPU # start the timer # timer_mode is oneshot RTAI Testsuite - KERNEL latency (all data in nanoseconds) RTH|lat min|ovl min|

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-13 Thread andy pugh
On 13 August 2012 09:52, Klemen Ozebek klemen.oze...@gmail.com wrote: in terminal window i get following text without any values: This is possibly an issue that the RTAI folks would be more knowledgeable about. The problem lies outside of LinuxCNC. Do you see anything in dmesg after trying the

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-13 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Hi, in dmesg i get following text: [0.450028] libata version 3.00 loaded. [0.450028] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs [0.450028] usbcore: registered new interface driver hub [0.450028] usbcore: registered new device driver usb [0.450028] ACPI: WMI: Mapper loaded

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Dear, I also started the thread with start command but it's not running (execution time = 0). Today I installed OS with LinuxCNC once again from LiveCD and I found out that latency test is running just once on first boot of the system and when I want to start it again it is not running anymore.

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Matt Shaver
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:16:14 +0200 Klemen Ozebek klemen.oze...@gmail.com wrote: I also started the thread with start command but it's not running (execution time = 0). Today I installed OS with LinuxCNC once again from LiveCD and I found out that latency test is running just once on first

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Mark Wendt
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Klemen Ozebek klemen.oze...@gmail.com wrote: Dear, I also started the thread with start command but it's not running (execution time = 0). Today I installed OS with LinuxCNC once again from LiveCD and I found out that latency test is running just once on first

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/8/12 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Klemen Ozebek klemen.oze...@gmail.com wrote: Dear, I also started the thread with start command but it's not running (execution time = 0). Today I installed OS with LinuxCNC once again from LiveCD and I found out

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Hello, No I didn't update OS. Ubuntu is 10.04 LTS version and kernel 2.6.32-122-rtai. Best regards. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.comwrote: 2012/8/12 Mark Wendt wendt.m...@gmail.com: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 6:16 AM, Klemen Ozebek

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 August 2012 11:17:30 Klemen Ozebek did opine: Dear, I also started the thread with start command but it's not running (execution time = 0). Today I installed OS with LinuxCNC once again from LiveCD and I found out that latency test is running just once on first boot of the

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Hi, I did uname -r and I got 2.6.32-122-rtai. Br. Klemen On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:20 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Sunday 12 August 2012 11:17:30 Klemen Ozebek did opine: Dear, I also started the thread with start command but it's not running (execution time = 0).

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Hi, I also tried to run latency test from liveCD but did not run. Br. Klemen On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Sunday 12 August 2012 11:17:30 Klemen Ozebek did opine: Dear, I also started the thread with start command but it's not running

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread sam sokolik
as matt asked above - what is your hardware? Sounds like an issue with your hardware not liking the realtime kernel patches... On 08/12/2012 12:14 PM, Klemen Ozebek wrote: Hi, I also tried to run latency test from liveCD but did not run. Br. Klemen On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Gene

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 August 2012 13:22:33 Klemen Ozebek did opine: Hi, I did uname -r and I got 2.6.32-122-rtai. Br. Klemen That is correct. I'll let someone more familiar lead to the next test step then. Because I would be guessing and probably wrong. Cheers, Gene -- There are four

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Hi, you can check hardware spec. in attachment. Br. Klemen On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:20 PM, sam sokolik sa...@empirescreen.com wrote: as matt asked above - what is your hardware? Sounds like an issue with your hardware not liking the realtime kernel patches... On 08/12/2012 12:14 PM,

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/8/12 Klemen Ozebek klemen.oze...@gmail.com: Hi, you can check hardware spec. in attachment. Attachments are not encouraged on this mailing list. -- Viesturs If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Hi, see list of hardware below: evices Processor Processors AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor 3415.44MHz AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor 3415.44MHz AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor 3415.44MHz AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor 3415.44MHz Memory Memory Total Memory 3353180 kB Free Memory

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 12 August 2012 17:38:29 Klemen Ozebek did opine: Hi, you can check hardware spec. in attachment. Br. Klemen This list does not accept attachments, so it was stripped by the time this msg arrived here. Post the link instead. On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 7:20 PM, sam sokolik

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-12 Thread andy pugh
On 12 August 2012 18:45, Klemen Ozebek klemen.oze...@gmail.com wrote: fee0-fee00fff Local APIC Well, there goes my first guess. From the command line does cd /usr/realtime-2.6.32-122-rtai/testsuite/kern/latency ./run Give you anything, or an instructive error message? -- atp If you can't

[Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-11 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Dear all, if I run classicladder standalone (without EMC) with following commands it is not working - not refreshing: loadrt threads name1=med period1=1 loadrt classicladder_rt addf classicladder.0.refresh med start loadusr -w classicladder What I did wrong? Best Regards Klemen

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder standalone

2012-08-11 Thread Matt Shaver
On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:06:19 +0200 Klemen Ozebek klemen.oze...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, if I run classicladder standalone (without EMC) with following commands it is not working - not refreshing: loadrt threads name1=med period1=1 loadrt classicladder_rt addf

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder standalone

2012-08-11 Thread Chris Morley
Dear all, if I run classicladder standalone (without EMC) with following commands it is not working - not refreshing: loadrt threads name1=med period1=1 loadrt classicladder_rt addf classicladder.0.refresh med start loadusr -w classicladder What I did wrong? As Matt

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder standalone

2012-08-11 Thread Klemen Ozebek
Thank you for the answers, I tried both sugesstions but it must be something wrong with my system because latancy test is also not runing. Best regards. Klemen Dne 11. avg. 2012 18:30 je Matt Shaver m...@mattshaver.com napisal/-a: On Sat, 11 Aug 2012 18:06:19 +0200 Klemen Ozebek

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder standalone - not working

2012-08-11 Thread andy pugh
On 11 August 2012 13:25, Klemen Ozebek klemen.oze...@gmail.com wrote: if I run classicladder standalone (without EMC) with following commands it is not working - not refreshing: ... Best Regards You need to start the threads. A simple start command will do it. You can see if the threads are

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-12 Thread yann jautard
Dave wrote: Using a Grafcet chart or charts, along with some ladder logic files might be an improvement vs using strictly ladder logic. yeah, this is exactly my point of view. making a state machine with ladder is quite annoying, using some grafcet to do it make it very simpler. I

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-12 Thread yann jautard
Chris Morley wrote: I will try to work on any glaring bugs. Hi Chris (and others ! ) In this email I'll try to list all the problems I encountered using the grafcet editor in EMC. First, this is the clp file we are talking about : http://filebin.ca/eztwq/custom.clp The first real

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-12 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Chris, Your work is greatly appreciated. I use classic ladder on every machine. I tried the EMC integrated SFC programming and put it on the front burner to learn/use ASAP. I didn't work with it long enough to believe any problems were not my fault. Sorry for the lack of effort on my part. Ten

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-09 Thread yann jautard
Hi Chris I finally managed to get my grafcet working, thanks to the link you mentionned. It sound stupid, but... nowhere in the doc nor anywhere there is the info that grafcet steps are related to %X1 %X2 etc variables to acces them with the ladder ! This saved my week of work :) :) I'm

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-09 Thread Chris Morley
I finally managed to get my grafcet working, thanks to the link you mentionned. It sound stupid, but... nowhere in the doc nor anywhere there is the info that grafcet steps are related to %X1 %X2 etc variables to acces them with the ladder ! This saved my week of work :) :) actually

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-09 Thread Dave
Hi Yann, I'm very glad to hear that you were able to get Grafcet to work. I think you have inspired me to give it a try also. That looks similar to the sequential function charts that I have used before, but with less detail. Using a Grafcet chart or charts, along with some ladder logic

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-08 Thread Dave
Yann, You are welcome.. Try putting Classic Ladder into stop mode via the stop button before editing the logic. Then once you are done editing, always save it with the save button, then push the run button to start the logic engine. I think some instability make sneak into CL if you try to

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-08 Thread Chris Morley
Dave wrote: Yann, So you are saying that the sequential editor in Classic Ladder Grafcet freezes up? yeah it does strange things, crash when printing, freezes up sometimes, or don't save anything... Congrats you are the firt and only person that I know that has tried to

[Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-07 Thread yann jautard
Hi Second try to send this mail to the list... For the machine I'm building, I've to use two glue tanks. When one is empty, the second one is automatically switched on, then at the next end of the program, the user has to refill the empty tank before he can restart another cycle. Then if on

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-07 Thread Andy Pugh
On 7 July 2010 08:08, yann jautard brico...@free.fr wrote: In the end, I can turn my grafcet to a physical Dlatch schema that will be implemented with HAL. But I suspect this is not the funny way to do... Hopefully somebody can answer the question you actually asked, but it might not be too

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-07 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 12:46 +0100, Andy Pugh wrote: On 7 July 2010 08:08, yann jautard brico...@free.fr wrote: ... snip Comp makes it really pretty easy. http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/hal_comp.html Look at the examples at the bottom to see how easy it can be. Yann: Just in case you consider

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-07 Thread Dave
Yann, So you are saying that the sequential editor in Classic Ladder Grafcet freezes up? I use the Classic Ladder - Ladder editor quite a bit and I don't have any freezing problems with that. The only recent Classic Ladder changes that I am aware of are Modbus related, not logical editor

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-07 Thread yann jautard
Kirk Wallace wrote: (snip) Different machine states or case are assigned, then the loop checks the current state, invokes a solution, then updates the state for the next loop cycle. (snip) Yeah this is exactly the purpose of grafcet : a language to easily describe state machines.

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder : sequential editor problem/bug

2010-07-07 Thread yann jautard
Dave wrote: Yann, So you are saying that the sequential editor in Classic Ladder Grafcet freezes up? yeah it does strange things, crash when printing, freezes up sometimes, or don't save anything... I use the Classic Ladder - Ladder editor quite a bit and I don't have any

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder problem

2010-02-05 Thread Rudy du Preez
Dave wrote I assume the TMn.P is the preset value for a timer? Are you saying that when you enter the preset value into the program and and run it, it works. But the preset value is lost after shutting down EMC2 and restarting? Does this occur even when you are not using an assignment to

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder problem

2010-02-05 Thread Dave
Rudy, I'd probably put another assignment statement below the existing one, but assign the value to a register that you can monitor. That way you can make sure the value is a legit timer preset value. Dave On 2/5/2010 8:11 AM, Rudy du Preez wrote: Dave wrote I assume the TMn.P is the

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder problem

2010-02-05 Thread Chris Morley
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 23:12:01 -0500 From: e...@dc9.tzo.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder problem Rudy, I'd probably put another assignment statement below the existing one, but assign the value to a register that you can monitor

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder

2009-06-29 Thread juanjo
.. greetings. Juanjo Monday, June 29, 2009, 1:25:32 AM, you wrote: Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:31:01 -0300 From: j...@arnet.com.ar To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder Hello guys. i update to the version lattest version of EMC2 - 2.2.8. well

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder

2009-06-29 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/29 juanjo j...@arnet.com.ar: i try later to get the LATEST 2.3.1 and see the changes my dude now is i get the updated via Synaptic the last week so i need to se why no get V2.3.1- This page explains why, and how to upgrade: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?UpdatingTo2.3 --

[Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, Ubuntu 6.06 EMC2-trunk (git pull this morning) Cinci 5axis machine the var %I7 shows on the section dislay %I7 is not on and the lube timer does not run screen shot is here http://imagebin.org/53991 config files are here www.mpm1.com:8080/cinci.* on shutdown I

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:19:18AM -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, Ubuntu 6.06 EMC2-trunk (git pull this morning) Cinci 5axis machine the var %I7 shows on the section dislay %I7 is not on and the lube timer does not run screen shot is here

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread stustev
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:19:18AM -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen, Ubuntu 6.06 EMC2-trunk (git pull this morning) Cinci 5axis machine the var %I7 shows on the section dislay %I7 is not on and the lube

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I just got back and looked at the configs and wiki. I don't use %W's. The link did not help me. I On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Chris Radekch...@timeguy.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 10:19:18AM -0500, Stuart Stevenson wrote: Gentlemen,    Ubuntu 6.06    EMC2-trunk (git pull this

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Is there another place to look? On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Stuart Stevensonstus...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back and looked at the configs and wiki. I don't use %W's. The link did not help me. I On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Chris Radekch...@timeguy.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 29,

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Stuart Stevenson wrote: Is there another place to look? On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Stuart Stevensonstus...@gmail.com wrote: I just got back and looked at the configs and wiki. I don't use %W's. The link did not help me. I Did you notice the part where it says to connect the C pin

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
yes I didn't think I was to that point yet. I don't see the state of the %I7 contact change to start the timer. How do I connect the C pin to the E pin? thanks Stuart On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Stephen Wille Padnosspad...@sover.net wrote: Stuart Stevenson wrote: Is there another place to

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Stuart Stevenson wrote: yes I didn't think I was to that point yet. I don't see the state of the %I7 contact change to start the timer. How do I connect the C pin to the E pin? What I did when going through this with a user was to open the CL editor, go to edit mode, select the vertical wire

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread John Thornton
Stuart, I missed some of the chat on this but in your image you need to connect C and E together or the timer will not work. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docview/html//ladder_classic_ladder.html#r1_7_3 John On 29 Jun 2009 at 14:56, Stuart Stevenson wrote: I just got back and looked at the

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I don't know CL well either. Let me modify the question about how to link C and E. I have two rungs. The add button seems to only want to edit the other rung. How do I get it to change rungs so I can add a link between C and E? On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Stephen Wille

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
John, The problem (at this time) is not the knowledge of the needed change it is the how to do it. I do not know how to get the CL editor to edit the rung the timer is in. The CL editor picks the other rung to edit. thanks Stuart On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:10 PM, John Thorntonbjt...@gmail.com

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread K.J. Kirwan
Stuart, Did you try coming away from the timer left one segment to draw in the vertical line instead of just jumping straight across? Sometimes CL will refuse one thing but accept it in a different way. (You'll have to add a short horizontal segment too.) Also, it seems to make a difference how

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread John Thornton
You need to pick the rung you want to edit and when you pick it the side rails turn red then select Modify in the little Editor window. Now it turns to bluish squares. Pick the vertical line tool (middle one on the third row of the Editor window and left click between the C and the E and a line

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread Chris Morley
-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning John, The problem (at this time) is not the knowledge of the needed change it is the how to do it. I do not know how to get the CL editor to edit the rung the timer is in. The CL editor picks the other rung

Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning

2009-06-29 Thread Stuart Stevenson
sure you can get it from there. Chris Morley Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:17:03 -0500 From: stus...@gmail.com To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] classicladder not functioning John,    The problem (at this time) is not the knowledge of the needed change

[Emc-users] ClassicLadder

2009-06-28 Thread jjr
Hello guys. i update to the version lattest version of EMC2 - 2.2.8. well ran fine, but i see the Classic Ladder version and i see the  V0.7.100,  i see in the home page of Classicladder and see a version V0.8.4 , i get it, but i cant Make due a missing lib called libgio anybody have a

Re: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder

2009-06-28 Thread Chris Morley
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:31:01 -0300 From: j...@arnet.com.ar To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] ClassicLadder Hello guys. i update to the version lattest version of EMC2 - 2.2.8. well ran fine, but i see the Classic Ladder version and i see the V0.7.100

[Emc-users] Classicladder/MODBUS

2008-10-23 Thread Chris Morley
7.124 is included with EMC TRUNK . TRUNK gives you all the cutting edge work that people have included. It can have bugs of course. It's possible to add classiclader 7.124 to a production EMC (like 2.2x) but probably not worth the trouble. The version 8.02 you found on sourceforge is the

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder/MODBUS

2008-10-23 Thread Dave Keeton
I have the trunk version you pointed to in an earlier message. What is the proper command format to compile it? I followed the instructions on the EMC wiki but I may not be doing it right! make is not working.. Dave On Thu, 2008-10-23 at 19:26 +, Chris Morley wrote: 7.124 is included

Re: [Emc-users] Classicladder

2008-07-30 Thread Chris Morley
I added a ladder sample that should be a good start of what you want to do in the wikki. www.wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ClassicLadder I looked through the examples in the download of classicladder on the sourceforge and there was no examples of the counter being used that I saw

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