Re: [eug-lug]dns gizmo

2004-02-07 Thread Larry Price
or you could use the commands module s = commands.getoutput('nmap -O 67.171.238.246') s '\nStarting nmap 3.30 ( http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2004-02-07 19:36 PST\nNote: Host seems down. If it is really up, but blocking our ping probes, try -P0\nNmap run completed -- 1 IP address (0

Re: [eug-lug]dns gizmo

2004-02-07 Thread Bob Miller
john fleming wrote: That is good but how do I get it to hand it to nmap to run the scan? Oh. Why didn't you say, Please write my program for me? (-: import socket import os ip = socket.gethostbyname('bmiller') cmd = 'nmap -sP %s' % ip cmd 'nmap -sP

Re: [eug-lug]SUSE

2004-02-07 Thread Ben Barrett
I believe I have a LUG-provided 8.2 box you can have... can check on that tomorrow, will send you contact info off-list. Ben On Sat, 07 Feb 2004 21:00:38 -0800 Garl Grigsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Does anybody have a set of SUSE 8.2 and/or 9.0 CDs that I can borrow for | a couple of days?

RE: [eug-lug]stop drooling

2004-02-06 Thread baggab
That's cold blooded. I take it, that's your new monitor. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mr O Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 11:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [eug-lug]stop drooling

Re: [eug-lug]stop drooling

2004-02-06 Thread Larry Price
so now you'll never have to leave the house On Thursday, February 5, 2004, at 11:05 PM, Mr O wrote: http://home.comcast.net/~notanatheist101/images/genpdp.jpg __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online.

Re: [eug-lug]stop drooling

2004-02-06 Thread Ben Barrett
Maybe a new TV, running as a monitor? Plasma? I'm *guessing* it is big, although I can't see any standard items for size comparison... maybe it is a 14 widescreen for the bedroom? ; I do see AVC5.. on a box on the lower right, is that a clue? congrats, Ben On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 05:27:33

Re: [eug-lug]stop drooling

2004-02-06 Thread Mr O
42 Plasma. 1024x1024 res. Looks really good with 1024x768 stretched. Will actually take up to a 1600x1200 input and fit it to screen. Yes I still leave the house. Haven't had nearly enough time for all the projects I have going. Comparison you want?

Re: [eug-lug]Slackware install on Averatec Laptop...

2004-02-06 Thread Linux Rocks!
Its a Intel Mobile 1.3G Centrino CPU, not sure about the mainboard chipset, My guess is intel (the video and I/O, ethernet, wireless are all intel. I have the 5110 model (the big one) not the little one... the big one was on sale, so I got it insead of the nice little 12 one... So far I like

Re: [eug-lug]Re: Naive BSD question

2004-02-06 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 04:54:28PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 08:45:52PM -0801, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 11:20:03PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 08:07:01PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe all the BSDs use the

Re: [eug-lug]help w/ weird mouse configuration

2004-02-06 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 09:28:25AM -0800, Hal Pomeranz wrote: I dual-boot RH7.3 on my laptop to do my SANS talks. I have a really nice RF wireless presentation mouse with a USB interface. The only problem is that XFree86 apparently only lets me have a single mouse device-- thus I can use

Re: [eug-lug]help w/ weird mouse configuration

2004-02-06 Thread Ben Barrett
I found these relevant links, I'll let them do the talking: http://www.harshbutfair.org/software/multimice.html http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/archive/18/2003/01/4/42560 Another message said, Just create another InputDevice entry in your XF86Config and give it a different identifier.

Re: [eug-lug]help w/ weird mouse configuration

2004-02-06 Thread Ben Barrett
The other, consumer-happy, option is to get a single device that will fit your needs for presentations and as a general mouse. RF is better than IR, since you don't need line-of-sight during your presentations... here's one for ~$14: http://www.softwareandstuff.com/ACC10633.html Also, KBob has a

Re: [eug-lug]help w/ weird mouse configuration

2004-02-06 Thread Brian Baker
Make the following adjustments to XF86Config/XF86Config-4 to get both mice working: Section ServerLayout Identifier Default Layout Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceUSB Mice SendCoreEvents InputDevice

Re: [eug-lug]Slackware install on Averatec Laptop...

2004-02-06 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 05:18:36PM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote: Doesn't that use a via c3 chipset? As I understand it, most modern binaries will not run on the via c3, since it lacks MMX, 3DNow, and SSE extensions. I actually gathered some info on processor capabilities a few weeks ago by looking

Re: [eug-lug]help w/ weird mouse configuration

2004-02-06 Thread Christopher Forsythe
http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/XFree86-Second-Mouse.html Get with me on the shipping of the shirt, thanks! Chris On Feb 6, 2004, at 11:28 AM, Hal Pomeranz wrote: I dual-boot RH7.3 on my laptop to do my SANS talks. I have a really nice RF wireless presentation mouse with a USB interface.

Re: [eug-lug]help w/ weird mouse configuration

2004-02-06 Thread Ben Barrett
Huh, your post was dated 10:29, although it was the last one to show up in my inbox. Is your clock off, Chris, or is the list's server doing some strange queue ordering, Larry? This has a major effect on people's ability to respond fairly to incentive-based requests like Hal's, as well as

Re: [eug-lug]Slackware install on Averatec Laptop...

2004-02-06 Thread Ben Barrett
Cool... I think the i865GM is the intel chipset that is the heart of centrino. As for resizing ntfs, I don't think you need a usb memory stick, just run 'qtparted' from a knoppix CD; that worked beautifully for me in recent weeks. Just using qtparted, I was able to both resize and create the new

Re: [eug-lug]help w/ weird mouse configuration

2004-02-06 Thread Hal Pomeranz
Well, I got Jacob's message first, but Brian actually gave me a working config without my having to actually fire up my Web browser, and Ben wins on the basis of volume. How about shirts all around, gentlemen? Hope you like XL or XXL, because that's all we've got. Please send me an email

Re: [eug-lug]Security Pipeline Newsletter

2004-02-06 Thread Bob Miller
Bob Crandell wrote: CAN-SPAM Doesn't Can Spam http://www.securitypipeline.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=17601914 On the good news front, Sender Permitted From (SPF) is enjoying rapid growth right now. If you administrate a domain, it might be a good time to add SPF records to your DNS. It

Re: [eug-lug]Slackware install on Averatec Laptop...

2004-02-06 Thread Bob Miller
Jacob Meuser wrote: Maybe they'd be better used as vpn endpoints rather than movie players ... or maybe a new video codec based on AES ... Yow, that's fast. Maybe a video format whose DRM uses AES encryption. -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting

Re: [eug-lug]Slackware install on Averatec Laptop...

2004-02-06 Thread Bob Miller
Ben Barrett wrote: I think my mini-itx board is waiting for me at home, hopefully I'll have it ready to bring to a meeting next week (if the case arrives in time!). What do you need the case for? Just plug in an old power supply, or put it into a full-size case for bringup. (It's actually

Re: [eug-lug]stop drooling

2004-02-06 Thread Bob Miller
Mr O wrote: http://home.comcast.net/~notanatheist101/images/genpdp.jpg What is blue? Is it your mini-ITX or an Intel-based box? In other mini-ITX news, if you go to http://www.interact-tv.com/ , it sure looks like Telly is a mini-ITX board in a pretty case (and with pretty software). -- Bob

Re: [eug-lug]help w/ weird mouse configuration

2004-02-06 Thread Christopher Forsythe
Ben Barrett wrote: Huh, your post was dated 10:29, although it was the last one to show up in my inbox. Is your clock off, Chris Well, I am in a different time zone than you guys I believe, over here in Texas. So my time was probably correct, but I replied as soon as I got it. I really do not

Re: [eug-lug]help w/ weird mouse configuration

2004-02-06 Thread Brian Baker
Oh man! I just bought a dozen shirts last night for three dollars each and I could've waited and gotten a free one today? Next time I need a new shirt I'll look you up. Thanks. Brian On Friday 06 February 2004 12:26 pm, Hal Pomeranz wrote: Well, I got Jacob's message first, but Brian

Re: [eug-lug]Naive BSD question

2004-02-06 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 03:13:36PM -0800, Patrick R. Wade wrote: The most utterly hosed filesystem i have ever had the misfortune to be afflicted with, came to me courtesy of softupdates. The enormous files with the immutable flag set, the files with negative timestamps, the files with

Re: [eug-lug]stop drooling

2004-02-06 Thread Robert M. Solovay
Do they sell this at ComputerBase? What's the price? --Bob Solovay On Fri, 6 Feb 2004, Mr O wrote: 42 Plasma. 1024x1024 res. Looks really good with 1024x768 stretched. Will actually take up to a 1600x1200 input and fit it to screen. Yes I still leave the house. Haven't had nearly

Re: [eug-lug]Slackware install on Averatec Laptop...

2004-02-06 Thread Ben Barrett
Last night, before going out to enjoy the Floater show at WOW hall (very cool, and my first floater show), I plugged my new board into my KVM and ethernet, plus plugged a spare power supply into the wall and the mobo (primary power connector), and a CD reader, and also plugged the cd intot he mobo

Re: [eug-lug]help w/ weird mouse configuration

2004-02-06 Thread Ben Barrett
I think the repeater mode is key here, its been a while though... On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 10:55:50 -0801 Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | ... | quick google for Linux mouse multiplex suggests using gpm -M. | I forgot how to use gpm with X though. |

[the_tick@brok3n.org: Re: [benb@nu-world.com: Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window]]

2004-02-05 Thread T. Joseph Carter
] Subject: Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window Reply-To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ya! Egg on face. This has been going on for a while; google on her name gave these examples of similar situations: old: http

Re: [eug-lug]EXTREMISM IN DEFENSE OF LINUX MUST BE CONDEMNED

2004-02-05 Thread Bob Crandell
The only reason I posted it here was because it is part of Linux Pipeline Newsletter. I think it's a good reminder that You catch more flies with honey then vinegar. Though why you would want flies, I don't know but, hey, it's all about choices. Right? There are other good articles after his

Re: [eug-lug]EXTREMISM IN DEFENSE OF LINUX MUST BE CONDEMNED

2004-02-05 Thread Ben Barrett
Sorry, Bob -- I wasn't trying to remind you = ) Some of the content of the newsletter, combined with my mood, brought that on; no beef with your posting... it is definitely about linux and pertinent to the list. I prolly should have put my response on activism! Hopefully socially constructive

Re: [eug-lug] tracking down a spammer is usually an effort without a payoff.

2004-02-05 Thread Christopher Forsythe
In the end, this is all not worth the effort. The nmap took way too long, the host was barely up, not accepting http or dns connections, etc. I honestly did not care too much, but figured some people might be interested :D. Anyhow, just put the domain in your blocks list and move on. But also

Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window

2004-02-05 Thread Brad Davidson
This message tripped my mental spam filter. Come on, she obviously didn't find EUGLUG on google. The keywords make no sense, they look like 3 random words. She also obviously doesn't know what EUGLUG does, how would she 'compete' with a mailing list/user group? I know it's nice to think that

Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window

2004-02-05 Thread Brad Davidson
Hmm, guess I should finish reading the thread before I respond. Looks like Ben already pointed out that it's spam :) -Brad nyal wrote: It's nice to know she won't be stealing andy of EUGLUG's sales..What is she trying to steal? Nyal ___ EuG-LUG

Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window

2004-02-05 Thread Larry Price
nyal wrote: It's nice to know she won't be stealing andy of EUGLUG's sales..What is she trying to steal? Nyal googlejuice most likely; various webmaster accounts I'm associated with get three or four of the reciprocal link offers per day. some of them are attempting to get a particular site

Re: [eug-lug]EXTREMISM IN DEFENSE OF LINUX MUST BE CONDEMNED

2004-02-05 Thread Edward Craig
Because no attempt has been made by Pfizer to defend its copyright from spammers' exploitatiom, I infer that MyDoom is part of a successful advertising effort by Pfizer to promote Viagra. It's at least as reasonable as the presumption that MyDoom was written by Linux programmers

Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window

2004-02-05 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Thu, Feb 05, 2004 at 09:38:16AM -0800, Brad Davidson wrote: This message tripped my mental spam filter. Come on, she obviously didn't find EUGLUG on google. The keywords make no sense, they look like 3 random words. She also obviously doesn't know what EUGLUG does, how would she

Re: [eug-lug]Re: Naive BSD question

2004-02-05 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 08:45:52PM -0801, Jacob Meuser wrote: On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 11:20:03PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 08:07:01PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe all the BSDs use the Fast File System* (ffs). But that shouldn't be a problem for want

Re: [eug-lug]Re: Naive BSD question

2004-02-05 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 12:23:09PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: I'm guessing you already have BSD partition table support in your kernel if you've gotten a dual-boot system working. Freebsd is fine without having freebsd magic in the partition table. Meaning this deduction is not necessarily true.

Re: [eug-lug]Slackware install on Averatec Laptop...

2004-02-05 Thread Ben Barrett
Doesn't that use a via c3 chipset? As I understand it, most modern binaries will not run on the via c3, since it lacks MMX, 3DNow, and SSE extensions. I'm not sure that I'm correctly recalling the averatech laptop's details I think my mini-itx board is waiting for me at home, hopefully I'll

Re: [eug-lug]You can't say piracy anymore.

2004-02-05 Thread Ben Barrett
There've been more recent postings to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -it was a covert operation, meant to be run under your radar, Mr. President. On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 17:41:20 -0800 Bob Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. | I'd've posted this to activism, but I'm apparently the only person | subscribed. I'm

Re: [eug-lug]Slackware install on Averatec Laptop...

2004-02-05 Thread Christopher Forsythe
I don't think it will have the dual boot information, but this site is a great reference for laptop linux use in general: http://linux-laptop.net/ Chris On Feb 5, 2004, at 4:39 PM, Linux Rocks! wrote: I'm planning on bringing a new laptop to the meeting tonite... It has windows XP on it, and

Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window

2004-02-04 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 08:26:37PM -0800, Jason wrote: Well, at least the spammers are getting somewhat creative. Or not. I think she really wants to swap links. Very possible she is using some kind of script-email_form, tho. Who knows tho ... maybe she paid some half-reformed spammer to

Re: [eug-lug]Naive BSD question

2004-02-04 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 08:46:39PM -0800, T. Joseph Carter wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 07:43:58PM -0801, Jacob Meuser wrote: Yes, that's what he meant. Now what would be cool is a journaled file system for bsd. Any one out there? Perhaps when bsd supports xfs, reiser or ext3.

Re: [eug-lug]lrint()

2004-02-04 Thread Steve
Jacob Meuser wrote: Why does the following: #include stdlib.h #include stdio.h #include math.h int main() { long int a; a = lrint(2.1314); printf(a = %li\n, a); exit(0); } when compiled with: gcc -Wall -lm -o lrint lrint.c always complain: lrint.c: In function `main': lrint.c:9: warning:

Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window

2004-02-04 Thread nyal
It's nice to know she won't be stealing andy of EUGLUG's sales..What is she trying to steal? Nyal -- Once you have pulled the pin out of Mr. Grenade, he is no longer your friend. An error occured while loading http://www.elizabethrichson.com: Unknown host www.elizabethrichson.com

Re: [eug-lug]Re: Naive BSD question

2004-02-04 Thread Robert M. Solovay
So to get back to a variant of my original question: If I'm running a dual-boot Linux BSD system, it looks like Linux can't read the BSD FFS file system. {At least my linux system mount command doesn't talk about ffs; it does mention ufs.} --Bob Solovay On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Jacob

Re: [eug-lug]lrint()

2004-02-04 Thread Bob Miller
Jacob Meuser wrote: Why does the following: [...] when compiled with: gcc -Wall -lm -o lrint lrint.c always complain: lrint.c: In function `main': lrint.c:9: warning: implicit declaration of function `lrint' ? Works fine though. lrint() is part of the C99 standard. If you

Re: [eug-lug]lrint()

2004-02-04 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 12:00:12PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: Jacob Meuser wrote: Why does the following: [...] when compiled with: gcc -Wall -lm -o lrint lrint.c always complain: lrint.c: In function `main': lrint.c:9: warning: implicit declaration of function

Re: [eug-lug]EXTREMISM IN DEFENSE OF LINUX MUST BE CONDEMNED

2004-02-04 Thread Ben Barrett
Well said, Bob. May I remind everyone again that we have a separate activism list. If you think a post should *maybe* go there instead, post it there and thanks for posting at all! I agree with these sentiments, although the statment, The Linux community is being invaded by zealots,

Re: [eug-lug]Naive BSD question

2004-02-04 Thread Patrick R. Wade
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 11:49:33PM -0800, Jacob Meuser wrote: Softdep makes fsck _very_ reliable, The most utterly hosed filesystem i have ever had the misfortune to be afflicted with, came to me courtesy of softupdates. The enormous files with the immutable flag set, the files with negative

Re: [eug-lug]Naive BSD question

2004-02-04 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 03:16:16PM -0800, Patrick R. Wade wrote: On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 11:49:33PM -0800, Jacob Meuser wrote: Softdep makes fsck _very_ reliable, The most utterly hosed filesystem i have ever had the misfortune to be afflicted with, came to me courtesy of softupdates.

Re: [eug-lug]Naive BSD question

2004-02-03 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 06:56:40PM -0800, Robert M. Solovay wrote: Larry, I'm guessing you meant to say that you can mount the UFS filesystem from Linux. Is this right? Yes, that's what he meant. Now what would be cool is a journaled file system for bsd. Any one out there? Perhaps

Re: [eug-lug]Re: Naive BSD question

2004-02-03 Thread Cory Petkovsek
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 08:07:01PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe all the BSDs use the Fast File System* (ffs). But that shouldn't be a problem for want you want to do - at least not from the BSD side of things. You just need to specify what Type of file system /home is in your

Re: [eug-lug]a few questions (media PC: via or intel)

2004-02-03 Thread Ben Barrett
Thanks folks, and I realized the M1 is called Nehemiah, not Nemeniah as I though... The MII's, which just came out, are ~$100 more, so I opted for the normal, slightly-less-new M1000, the Nehemiah, with a Casetronic ITX-2699R case and some RAM. Hopefully I'll be able to bring it to next

Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window

2004-02-03 Thread Ben Barrett
Cool news, but time for some sort of consensus here. I'd like to know if she's running her site for-profit, or what ?? I don't want to see our group become link-mavens for sites that get advert-based funding or otherwise are commercial. Does she know about LUGE, or the other LUG directory? Cool

Re: [eug-lug]Naive BSD question

2004-02-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 11:16:36PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 06:56:40PM -0800, Robert M. Solovay wrote: Larry, I'm guessing you meant to say that you can mount the UFS filesystem from Linux. Is this right? Yes, that's what he meant. Now what would be

Re: [eug-lug]Re: Naive BSD question

2004-02-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 04:59:35PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now what would be cool is a journaled file system for bsd. Any one out there? Perhaps when bsd supports xfs, reiser or ext3. I think soft dependences is basically BSD's answer to journaling. Well, not really, it's part of

Re: [eug-lug]euglug.org ranked # 40 in Google for linux training window

2004-02-03 Thread T. Joseph Carter
CLUE: This is spam. On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 03:46:45PM -0800, Elizabeth Richson wrote: I'm a web master, and I was just searching Google for linux training window. I found your domain, euglug.org ranked 40, which is pretty cool. Hello, category match alert!

Re: [eug-lug]Re: Naive BSD question

2004-02-03 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 11:20:03PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote: On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 08:07:01PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe all the BSDs use the Fast File System* (ffs). But that shouldn't be a problem for want you want to do - at least not from the BSD side of things. You

Re: [eug-lug]Naive BSD question

2004-02-03 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Tue, Feb 03, 2004 at 07:43:58PM -0801, Jacob Meuser wrote: Yes, that's what he meant. Now what would be cool is a journaled file system for bsd. Any one out there? Perhaps when bsd supports xfs, reiser or ext3. Probably won't ever happen. UFS/FFS has been around for ages. Many

Re: [eug-lug]disable remote login for root?

2004-02-02 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Mon, Feb 02, 2004 at 06:46:01AM +, horst wrote: It sure works (-: Ryan, Jason and Garl -- thanks for instant response. Ja, it's odd: the installation came with #PermitRootLogin yes which made me think the default is no. So there is no difference if you comment, or un-comment

Re: [eug-lug]Kiosk software ?

2004-02-02 Thread Hal Pomeranz
I'm helping the Cottage Grove Library update their web browsing kiosk machines. Right now they're Win95 using IE5 and the librarians are having a hard time keeping up with all the cookies, popups, bannerware, etc. that Windows boxes attract. So I'm looking for Linux based solutions that

Re: [eug-lug]Kiosk software ?

2004-02-02 Thread Ben Barrett
That's a great idea, Hal -- makes total sense. Some libraries are making use of LTSP, the linux terminal server project, to handle the re-appropriation of older hardware to become more-useful terminals in schools, libraries, kiosks, etc. You can read more at ltsp.org, and k12ltsp.org ... I'm sure

Re: [eug-lug]Kiosk software ?

2004-02-02 Thread Bob Miller
toman wrote: I'm helping the Cottage Grove Library update their web browsing kiosk machines. Right now they're Win95 using IE5 and the librarians are having a hard time keeping up with all the cookies, popups, bannerware, etc. that Windows boxes attract. So I'm looking for Linux based

Re: [eug-lug]Kiosk software ?

2004-02-02 Thread John Sechrest
And the great thing about knoppix is that you can run it from the hard disk by using knx-hdinstall which puts it on the hard disk. And if you build an image of the disk that you want, and you use that to create UML instances, then you can drive the whole thing from the disk, get the speed you

Re: [eug-lug]Naive BSD question

2004-02-02 Thread Larry Price
bsd's all use the UFS filesystem derived from 4.2 BSD You can mount ext2 from FreeBSD and you can mount UFS filesystems from BSD obstacles to cooperation are less daunting than you might think. read the man pages for mount, newfs and fsck to get the gory details. On Monday, February 2, 2004, at

Re: [eug-lug]Naive BSD question

2004-02-02 Thread Robert M. Solovay
Larry, I'm guessing you meant to say that you can mount the UFS filesystem from Linux. Is this right? At any rate, thanks very much for the quick and informative reply. --Bob Solovay On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, Larry Price wrote: bsd's all use the UFS filesystem derived from 4.2

Re: [eug-lug]Re: File Descriptor Question

2004-02-02 Thread Neil Parker
Beaker wrote, So basically you're saying that the act of evocation is the definition, right? I don't think I understand what you mean by that question...hopefully something in the verbiage below will cover it... In the shell, file descriptors are managed using the redirection operators. When

Re: [eug-lug]File Descriptor Question

2004-02-01 Thread Neil Parker
Beaker wrote, [...] Anyways, I've got things working but I'd really like to know what the 3 is all about. I read fd(4) which says 3-19 are user-defined; so where is it being defined here ? Right before the line that invokes gs: exec 31 12 The 31 says, Whenever anybody writes to descriptor

Re: [eug-lug]disable remote login for root?

2004-02-01 Thread Jason
In /etc/sshd/sshd_config, ensure the following line exists: PermitRootLogin no You'll have to restart sshd, but afterwards, root won't be able to login via sshd. /etc/securetty controls which ttys root can come in on. It should be set as you want it by default in RedHat (I believe). There

Re: [eug-lug]disable remote login for root?

2004-02-01 Thread horst
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [eug-lug]disable remote login for root? In /etc/ssh/sshd_config Change PermitRootLogin yes To PermitRootLogin no Garl horst wrote: How do I disable remote login (ssh) for root, and only allow 'su' or console login. It's a Red Hat box

RE: [eug-lug]Help the out-of-towner

2004-01-31 Thread Ryan Stasel
? ;-) -Ryan Stasel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mr O Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:25 PM To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list Subject: RE: [eug-lug]Help the out-of-towner It goes a little like this. As a shop we

Re: [eug-lug]a few questions (media PC: via or intel)

2004-01-31 Thread Mr O
Check out mini-itx.com and linitx.org for plenty of info ;) --- Ben Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS - also curious about the on-board crypto functions of the latest via chipsets; I've heard they have linux support for that. Finally: a solid built-in /dev/random ?? I was tired of

Re: [eug-lug]Re: EUGLUG FreeBSD users?

2004-01-31 Thread Jason
--- Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Jason, if you like OpenBSD, but want more hardware support for your desktop needs, why not try out NetBSD? I'm not too awfully worried about hardware, since I'll be using pretty standard gear (laptop actually). I am most interested in software

Re: [eug-lug]Re: EUGLUG FreeBSD users?

2004-01-31 Thread Larry Price
As far as using FreeBSD on the desktop, I've been doing so for the past year on that orange box, using the GNOME/Metacity desktop that's one of the options during the install. (Metacity is billed as the window manager for the adult in you) upgrading is easy, and if you do it regularly it's not

Re: [eug-lug]Re: EUGLUG FreeBSD users?

2004-01-31 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:45:34PM -0800, Larry Price wrote: (Metacity is billed as the window manager for the adult in you) Translation: It has no features that Havoc doesn't think you need. If any current feature seems useful but not absolutely necessary, it will probably be taken out soon.

Re: [eug-lug]Re: EUGLUG FreeBSD users?

2004-01-31 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 11:26:12AM -0800, Jason wrote: --- Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Jason, if you like OpenBSD, but want more hardware support for your desktop needs, why not try out NetBSD? I'm not too awfully worried about hardware, since I'll be using pretty

Re: [eug-lug]Re: EUGLUG FreeBSD users?

2004-01-31 Thread Jason
--- Jacob Meuser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip So, if I may ask, why exactly are you looking into something other than OpenBSD? I'm not against Open, which is the BSD I have the most experience with (along with BSDi, which I used to work with quite a bit). More along the lines of, in typical

Re: [eug-lug]I feel Bourne Again

2004-01-30 Thread Jason Van Cleve
Quoth Max Lemieux, on Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:06:16 -0800: ~/.bashrc ~/.bash_profile There is also a global file on most installations: /etc/bashrc, in case you want to change the shell for all users. --Jason Van Cleve -- In 2010, Microsoft Windows will be a quantum processing emulation layer

Re: [eug-lug]I feel Bourne Again

2004-01-30 Thread Ben Barrett
Many have /etc/profile as well, not to be missed if it is there. Ben On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:24:40 -0800 Jason Van Cleve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Quoth Max Lemieux, on Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:06:16 -0800: | | ~/.bashrc | ~/.bash_profile | | There is also a global file on most installations:

RE: [eug-lug]Help the out-of-towner

2004-01-30 Thread baggab
Thanks for the tip on Graybar, Norvac can be a mixed bag: hard to find items, but pricey. I shopped at a few places not worth mentioning... and I did buy from Stan while the PC training center was the ELUG hangout. I used to use VOC: they are price competitive, but I found the owner (lead tech?)

Re: [eug-lug]a few questions (remote Xwindows)

2004-01-30 Thread Ben Barrett
So, if I ssh into a system and have X-forwarding for the session, anything including my initial [bash or other] shell could be logging my local keystrokes, even in other windows? (assuming the shell binay was modified to log such events) They can only get X events, though, so they don't get

Re: [eug-lug]I feel Bourne Again

2004-01-30 Thread Bill Essig
Yeah, I don't swing that way either. Yeah, I don't swing that way, either, but that has nothing to do with this list or the bash shell. More specifically, I don't bash those who do swing that way On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 16:57:53 -0800 Max wrote: | And here I thought you were referring

Re: [eug-lug]a few questions (remote Xwindows)

2004-01-30 Thread Hal Pomeranz
So, if I ssh into a system and have X-forwarding for the session, anything including my initial [bash or other] shell could be logging my local keystrokes, even in other windows? (assuming the shell binay was modified to log such events) Remember that if you log into a remote system, your

Re: [eug-lug]a few questions (media PC: via or intel)

2004-01-30 Thread Ben Barrett
Right on. I'm looking at the Nemeniah MII's that just came out, but your statements confirm my latest thoughts that the Via mobo will be more of a plaything, to test out its capabilities and the feasibility of it as a media PC... I'm leaning toward the SS51G or an XPC system (either with a P4) as

Re: [eug-lug]EUGLUG FreeBSD users?

2004-01-30 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 10:16:56AM -0800, Jason wrote: Happy Friday all: Are there many FreeBSD users on the list? I had experience with FreeBSD many moons ago, and have pretty much only dealt whith Open on the BSD side of things for the last 3 or 4 years (and OS X for the last year or

Re: [eug-lug]Help the out-of-towner

2004-01-30 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 01:40:50PM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote: Can also suggest Graybar for cables and networking tools (ends/crimpers, etc), although they claim to be wholesalers, I think they'd happily take your money. I've found them to be more helpful and also cheaper on a lot of things,

Re: [eug-lug]a few questions

2004-01-30 Thread T. Joseph Carter
On Thu, Jan 29, 2004 at 10:02:06PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote: Video comes in many formats. I doubt a VIA CPU can handle realtime decompression of most of those formats. And future codecs will be more compute intensive. If you're building a single-purpose box that only uses MPEG compression,

Re: [eug-lug]a few questions (remote Xwindows)

2004-01-30 Thread Bob Miller
Hal Pomeranz wrote: The normal X remote protocol has all of the authentication problems described above PLUS it happens in clear text on the network, which means you can watch the network from some other system with something like Der Mouse's X Connection Monitor and passively sniff

Re: [eug-lug]a few questions (remote Xwindows)

2004-01-30 Thread Hal Pomeranz
The normal X remote protocol has all of the authentication problems described above PLUS it happens in clear text on the network, which means you can watch the network from some other system with something like Der Mouse's X Connection Monitor and passively sniff everything that's going

Re: [eug-lug]Re: EUGLUG FreeBSD users?

2004-01-30 Thread Jacob Meuser
On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 01:25:46PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been using NetBSD for about 3 years, mostly on Sparc. It's been by primary desktop (sparc 5, 170MHz) for about the last 18 months and for the most part I'm pretty content with it. By sticking with lightweight apps (both

RE: [eug-lug]Help the out-of-towner

2004-01-30 Thread Mr O
It goes a little like this. As a shop we limit ourselves to a certain number of vendors otherwise they all call begging for more business. So if our few vendors don't have an older part such as P3 boards (though we can often still get Tyan dual CPU boards) then we encourage the buyer to check

Re: [eug-lug]WANTED: Powered External HD Enclosure

2004-01-29 Thread Bob Crandell
I have one that can handle 5 or 6 drives. The connection is SCSI 1 Ryan Stasel ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Just need an external HD enclosure that holds atleast 4 drives, hopefully can handle full height 3.5 inch drives, cooling, internal power, scsi, you know. If anyone has one that they're

Re: [eug-lug]new SCO DDOS virus

2004-01-29 Thread Ben Barrett
I haven't had time to do much looking into this wormy, but can anyone who has expound on the mechanism for making the .zip appear with an icon that denotes a text file? I understand that was part of the gag, but one copy of it I saw using Mozilla Mail did not display it in this misleading manner.

Re: [eug-lug]I feel Bourne Again

2004-01-29 Thread Max Lemieux
~/.bashrc ~/.bash_profile should do it. -Max Bill Essig wrote: Does anyone get the joke? Ha Ha Ha. Anyways, could someone tell me where to find the BAsh config file? ___ EuG-LUG mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [eug-lug]Feeding spam to SpamAssassin

2004-01-29 Thread Bob Miller
Rob Hudson wrote: I get a lot of these types of emails. I question whether to feed them to spamassassin or not simply b/c they are a random list of words. It would see like it might do more harm than good. Is that a good assumption? I've been feeding them to bogofilter. Bogofilter is

Re: [eug-lug]Help the out-of-towner

2004-01-29 Thread Bob Miller
Hal Pomeranz wrote: So what's the best store in the area for finding random computer-related cabling, drives, enclosures, motherboards, PCI cards, memory, software, etc. when I'm in a hurry and don't want to wait for an on-line order to ship? I could give you a map of such places in the Bay

Re: [eug-lug]Help the out-of-towner

2004-01-29 Thread Bob Miller
Bob Miller wrote: Hardware: ComputerBase, 4770 Village Plaza Loop, Suite D. That's off Green Acres east of Delta Hwy. Oops, that's off Goodpasture, not Green Acres. I must be an out of towner myself. (-: -- Bob Miller Kbob kbobsoft software consulting

Re: [eug-lug]Help the out-of-towner

2004-01-29 Thread R. Stasel
When it comes to computer base though, realize that nothing has a posted price. Go there with the knowledge of what you can get the stuff for online and be prepared to haggle. -Ryan Stasel On Jan 29, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Bob Miller wrote: Bob Miller wrote: Hardware: ComputerBase, 4770 Village

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