In general, People don't seem to give a shit about fuel economy (off this
list, of course). People keep buying large SUVs and pickups to go sit in
traffic in. The best selling car in the US since 1981 is a truck; the Ford
F150. There have been plenty of small cars offered over the years.
(-Phil-) via EV wrote:
Complain all you want, but unless you fire up your own company and start
selling a compelling solution that people want it doesn't matter. "They"
sure aren't!
I've tried, and I agree. People won't buy what you want to sell; they
buy what THEY want. It's all ego and
One more time.
Very few people buy the products they need. They buy the products that are
SOLD to them. Ask any advertising professional or media person. That's
their business.
No other factor in purchasing decisions carries anything close to
advertising's weight.
It may be difficult
On 4/21/21 11:37 PM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
Each year cars get bigger, taller, and heavier. That's because that is
what people want.
David addressed this rather well. To an extent. It is a societal
problem that advertising targets are so easily and illogically swayed.
I contend that
I agree completely. They don’t make the Volt anymore. It was never really
advertised, except perhaps before and when it first came out. But it was really
never pushed. And it is a do everything car. EV mode for daily needs, gas for
long trips, fold down seats and hatchback to carry stuff.
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No BMS should ever just disconnect the battery under load, unless it's
a critical safety issue.
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 05:18, John Titman via EV wrote:
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> I have installed an additional contactor on my project electric car to
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> a means for the Orion BMS to shut down
On 4/22/21 10:47 AM, Paul Compton via EV wrote:
No BMS should ever just disconnect the battery under load, unless it's
a critical safety issue.
Shutting down the charger (via CAN bus) or removing (AC) power from the
charger via a relay would be a safer way to resolve a "cell high" alarm
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Paul Compton via EV wrote:
No BMS should ever just disconnect the battery under load, unless it's
a critical safety issue.
Paul is right. Every controller I know of only cuts back the output when
a low battery is detected. The vehicle just gets slower and slower...
but it will still move.
On 22 Apr 2021 at 12:52, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Most people buy used cars not new.
It would be correct to say that more used than new cars are sold. In 2018
in the US, 40.42 million used vehicles were sold, compared to 17.21 million
new ones. So, 70% of sales were used vehicles that
A large part of that depreciation is the fact that the second customer is not
going to get the Tax incentive, so that means that anyone with half a brain
will automatically deduct the tax rebate from the original cost BEFORE they
figure in depreciation.
For those EVs that have used up their
Unfortunately it's not really the automakers fault, it's the lawyers.
Production vehicles have to meet modern safety standards and I doubt you could
meet those standards using lightweight (read fragile) materials, not without
incuring a great deal of extra costs.
Even if you went with
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Each year cars get bigger, taller, and heavier. That's because that is what
people want. Unless they have to pay the full cost of ownership and then again
you will be able to buy a Hummer for next to nothing. That is what I call a
stranded asset. Lawrence Rhodes
I think it was 15 years ago, Solectria worked with company (e-Motion?) to
convert some Smart fortwo gliders into EVs, the project was eventually
abandoned. When that happened a lot of the motors and controllers ended up on
the market. I have the Solectria Motor and Controller plus the 364V
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Unless you have disabled/removed the OnStar radio, they have ALL of the data
they want fed to them continuously.
Even if you don't pay for the OnStar package, the radio is still active and
uploading data to OnStar. I don't pay for onstar, but I used to use the
Volt-stats website (it's
On 04/22/2021 10:09, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
Also worth considering: the huge, jaw-dropping depreciation on some EVs
should give us pause. That tells us what value vehicle customers actually
attach to them, and it's not good news for the EV movement. Tesla is a
notable outlier,
> A used vehicle does not generally have that,
The voltec warranty on my used chevy Volt was still valid through the
original 150,000 miles and 8 years.
I bought it 3 years old coming off lease from a dealer and that gives
a good sense of reliability as any original issues and warranty
problems
One thing I noticed about 60's vans were they weighed between 2,000 and 2,800
pounds. You can't find them that light today. Not even close. Of course your
knees were the bumper. Lawrence Rhodes
On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 5:07:11 PM PDT, paul dove
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Yea right! 1960 pickup
It’s always easy to blame it on lawyers, and while I’m not one, lawyers have
nothing to do with auto manufacturers needing to meet regulatory standards,
except for helping them interpret the requirements.
- Mark
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> On Apr 22, 2021, at 2:58 PM, Peter
https://www.falconclub.com/1961-2/1961-econoline/
3600 to 4300 gvw
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On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 8:31 PM, Lawrence Rhodes
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One thing I noticed about 60's vans were they weighed between 2,000 and 2,800
pounds. You can't find them that light today.
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paul dove via EV wrote:
Yea right! 1960 pickup weighed 4000 lbs on average. A 2021 pickup weighs
4500 lbs. The technology advancements is what makes this possible
References, please? Exactly what pickups are you referring to?
Lee
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Yea right! 1960 pickup weighed 4000 lbs on average. A 2021 pickup weighs 4500
lbs. the technology advancements is what makes this possible
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On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 6:41 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Each year cars get bigger, taller, and
1961 Ford Econoline Pickup Dimensional Specs. Wheelbase – 90.0in; Width – 75.0
in; Height – 76.9 in; Curb Weight – 2,500 lbs. To learn more about the Ford
Curb Weight. Lawrence Rhodes
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