I'm not an expert, just a longtime EV follower, but I think that when it
comes to road vehicles, hydrogen had its chance and missed it.
In 2001, the limitation on EVs was, and always had been, the battery. In
1999, the GM EV1 had had a 26kWh NiMH battery, and the Nissan Altra EV had
had a 32
On 19 Aug 2021 at 8:31, jim--- via EV wrote:
> Here's a link to the article if you can read it
>
> https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-08-10/hydrogen-highway-or-highway-
> to-nowhere
The article didn't seem to be paywalled. It's quoted below for anyone
having trouble. If you live
On 19 Aug 2021 at 11:22, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
> ItTMs very odd that absolutely no one answered your question about
> advantages.
Well, as Packard used to say, "Ask the man who owns one."
As far as I know, which admittedly isn't all that far, you're the only
person on this list who
On 23 Aug 2021 at 8:46, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote:
> I wouldnTMt expect that Toyota had that kind of editorial influence, nor
> would exercise it if they could.
They don't need to.
The once-solid firewalls between the management and fiscal people and the
newsrooms are crumbling even in
On 4 Sep 2021 at 1:18, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> RV's need neutral, so you'd need a transformer if you want to run any 120v
> items.
Wait, I must have missed something here. Now RV owners want to crib power
from EVSEs? It's not enough that greasy jerks with their stepladder pickups
ICE them?
On 2 Sep 2021 at 15:17, Cor van de Water via EV wrote:
> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
Here's the message:
This is a controller for in vehicle, so the complement to the EVSE (charging
station).
NOTE that it does not protect your battery, there is no BMS connection.
It also does not tell
On 7 Sep 2021 at 2:56, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> Since you are not allowed to park a fuel cell car indoors why on earth
> would you use one in a mine
Can you please provide a reference for this?
I'm no FCV fan nor am I an H2 evangelist, but I haven't been able to find
any
Thanks Bill. That's the information I was looking for.
I was curious about whether this was mentioned in the owner manuals of FCVs.
so out of curiosity I downloaded the Mirai manual from the web
https://www.startmycar.com/toyota/mirai/info/manuals/2021
It's 560 pages! I thought at first that
On 9 Sep 2021 at 14:52, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> I suspect, the hydrogen storage wont get any smaller whereas we can
> realistically expect the energy density - both by weight and volume -
> to continue to increase for batteries.
I think that you're right.
Ten years ago, even 5, FCVs had
On 10 Sep 2021 at 5:04, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> Maybe the Mirai tank system is really tight. Otherwise, I'm really
> curious: why haven't there been any reported H2 explosions ?
Could it be partly because they've sold only about 8,500 of them since 2015?
Low sales volume means fewer
On 10 Sep 2021 at 13:28, Bill Dube via EV wrote:
> This replacement cost is another "nail in the coffin" of H2 fuel cell
> vehicles. The cost of a battery replacement is less than the cost of
> _mandatory_ H2 cylinder replacement.
Is it mandatory, though? It seems to be nothing more than a
On 13 Sep 2021 at 9:30, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> My son's workplace in Alaska says he cannot plugin his Bolt EV to the
> dedicated 120v oiutlets provided in every parking spot because EV
> charging is not authorized.
Charging usually does take more current than a block heater does.
On 15 Sep 2021 at 4:40, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> How does that work ? Do they pump the water through some
> sort of catalyst that can extract lithium ?
If I understand correctly, it's David Snydacker's "direct lithium
extraction" process (Lilac). It uses ion exchange, fundamentally the
The interesting thing about a GFI is that it doesn't actually need a ground
to do its thing. It senses an imbalance in current between hot and neutral,
or for a 240v GFI, between the hot legs and/or neutral.
If any portion of the current drawn from a hot leg isn't balanced by a
return via the
On 4 Sep 2021 at 20:55, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> I thought you could mix ground with neutral?
Ground and neutral are bonded together at only one point in your house.
Usually that's at the main panel or main disconnect. From that point on,
ground and neutral are kept totally separate.
On 12 Jul 2021 at 21:54, mark hanson via EV wrote:
> https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/bay-area-man-killed-in-tesla-crash-had-com
> plained-about-autopilot/
The KRON article says that the accident victim, Walter Huang, had previously
experienced the Tesla's autopilot steering toward the same
A quarter century ago, Toyota's legal tantrums worked for them here in the
US, and their more recent whining about how tough EVs are for them has
helped to keep Japan well behind the EU and China in EV adoption. *
If Toyota had spent that money and effort on actually developing EVs, they
On 2 Aug 2021 at 21:42, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote:
> it would be nice if all the manufacturers standardised the skateboards
> into a few basic versions (compact, midsize, etc.) but this goes
> against their financial best interests, so I doubt it will happen
> anytime soon.
Wouldn't such a
Full article (LONG):
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2021/aug/03/lost-history-electric-car-
future-transport
or https://v.gd/44r42X
Highly condensed excerpts:
In the 1890s ... Horse-drawn vehicles had been in use for thousands of
years, and it was hard to imagine life without them. But
On 28 Jul 2021 at 20:41, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:
> What finally killed [the Ford Focus EV] in my mind was that if it
> needed more than the windshield washer fluid checked or brake pads
> replaced, the stealership would be helpless and it would probably be
> trucked to Portland (3 hours away)
On 31 Jul 2021 at 9:12, clarke2 via EV wrote:
> not there
The link works for me.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/snw/d/poulsbo-corbin-
sparrow/7357972484.html
Or since that URL will probably split, try https://v.gd/yoraxA
That's a sweet looking bird!
I wish you luck with this sale. These
On 30 Jul 2021 at 21:39, Haudy Kazemi via EV wrote:
> This is a battle being fought between lots of hardware manufacturers and
> owners of devices ranging from cars to tractors to phones to laptops.
I had an insane idea in the 1990s, and it hasn't gotten any saner since. It
was down the block
The subject looks like an auto-incorrection error. I think it's supposed to
be "catenaries." (Bloody smartphones think they're smarter than they are.)
>From the Oxford Dictionary:
Centenary: The hundredth anniversary of a significant event; a centennial.
Catenary: A curve formed by a wire,
On 9 Oct 2021 at 10:54, redscooter via EV wrote:
> I want to get a 30kw or 40kw [battery]
You must mean 30kWh or 40kWh (kilowatt hours). Hardly anyone these days
would buy a 3400lb car that only produced 40-55 horsepower (30-40kW).
Saying "my EV gets 4 miles per kilowatt" is like saying "My
Could you power the radio from its own battery? Charge it separately with
its own charger.
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On 22 Oct 2021 at 11:48, Verne Pavreal via EV wrote:
> Is the article behind a pay wall my iPhone Safari browser just complains a
> problem has occurred cheers
heretrythislinkinstead
https://v.gd/Vp0b5X
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On 16 Oct 2021 at 12:07, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> Which is why the HV input product is needed. A 1500W inverter from wal
> mart is only $100 (one tenth as much) and the only difference is the
> input circuitry and winding on the HV transformer.
Maybe someday.
Keep in mind that those
On 15 Oct 2021 at 16:57, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> Have you considered filling the strong market need for a 200-500 VDC input to
> 120 VAC output 2 kW inverter that can be used on Solar systems to charge any
> EV (via its own EVSE) independent of the grid. There is a CRYING need for
> this
On 17 Oct 2021 at 12:20, John Lussmyer via EV wrote:
> it appears that battery input needs at least 400V.
Well, that's a disappointment. For a minute there I thought that it might
be a way to derive lots of kW worth of 120v at 60Hz from 230-240v at 50Hz,
just by adding a big bridge rectifier
EXCERPTS:
More than 90% of the estimated 2.2 million species in the ocean remain
undescribed. And the two-year countdown to deep-sea mining has prompted
warnings from scientists that we have not sufficiently understood its
potential impact on biodiversity and ecosystems.
Douglas McCauley, a
On 30 Sep 2021 at 19:13, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Yes I am because that's the logical conclusion based on life experience.
Good grief. That's YOUR "life experience," not anyone else's.
For *YOU*, an EV that can provide backup power may not be a good investment.
Fair enough. That much is
On 30 Sep 2021 at 12:03, paul dove via EV wrote:
> I doubt very seriously if thatTMs a significant selling point. My power went
> out maybe 5 times in 40 years.
Don't assume that your experience is the same as everyone else's. That
careless error has tripped up no small number of business
On 4 Oct 2021 at 10:19, Tim Economu via EV wrote:
> Paul, a house backup system can in fact be purchased for much less than
> $78,000. Mine was about $8k. The point is that if it already included in the
> large battery EV you just bought, then it's effectively free.
Your EV already has a big
On 5 Oct 2021 at 13:19, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote:
> most of this thread has been discussing V2H, V2B and/or V2X rather
> than V2G
I know that V2G is vehicle to grid. V2H must be vehicle to house, yes?
Maybe V2B is vehicle to business (wild guess). But what is V2X?
David Roden, EVDL
On 5 Oct 2021 at 18:41, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> Going off-grid:
>
> Buy a used Leaf as a second EV. Charge each one on
> alternating days.
Good idea! The main impediment I can see would be the cost of licensing and
insuring the second car.
David Roden, EVDL moderator & general
On 5 Oct 2021 at 13:23, Matthew Pitts via EV wrote:
> V2B is vehicle to building and V2x just is used for a generic reference
> for all of them.
Thanks, Matthew!
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On 24 Oct 2021 at 7:15, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> I was out when she said $600 for level 1. That is absurd.
It's not absurd if the article's writer is trying to inflate the cost of
owning an EV, while minimizing the cost of owning an ICEV.
Most writers with a goal of slamming EVs do
On 24 Oct 2021 at 22:27, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> Mr. Anderson and his company have 20 years-experience of consulting
> with the auto industry and have been providing accurate data over that
> time to many publications.
With very few exceptions, success as a consultant hinges on
On 24 Oct 2021 at 13:35, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> I'd say there's no way Tesla is going to "open up" the supercharging
> network in the US, even in the next 2 years, let alone the end of this
> year.
It's quite likely that you know more about this than I do, but I don't think
that Elon Musk is
On 24 Oct 2021 at 13:09, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> The national average is 67% of people live in single family detached homes.
> But after using that figure for a few years awoke to the fact that in the
> mid-atlantic population (Maryland) the ratio is 50%
The problem is, that's not the
On 24 Oct 2021 at 18:53, Matthew Pitts via EV wrote:
> Why wouldn't folks make use of the time needed to charge their car by
> doing so at a charger at their favorite store? They'll have to be
> inside it for a certain period of time anyway.
Exactly. That's the current situation in rural
On 13 Nov 2021 at 12:13, nathan christiansn via EV wrote:
> This morning, I noticed that the EV album website would not load no matter
> what device I tried to access it on. Is anyone else having this problem or is
> it just me?
It's not working for me either.
I'm far from an expert on these
I'm getting "Connection reset while the page was loading" here. That's at
lest somewhat more promising than "Can't find the server" or "This domain is
for sale."
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On 12 Nov 2021 at 23:28, Frank Bonilla via EV wrote:
> We are looking for some mechanical help with our project in the Sarasota, Fl
> area. Thanks.
Hi Frank. The closest possibility I can think of (and recommend) would be
Steve Clunn in Crystal River. He's not very close, but maybe you could
On 2 Nov 2021 at 14:21, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:
> But it's good to see that it's possible to extract metals and reuse
> them, unlike compared to the plastics recycling debacle.
Here in the US, our problem is that we've let successful recycling be
defined as profitable recycling. In some EU
Ho hum - another day, another thumb-on-the-scale anti-EV article.
The author is correct about finding public charging here in the Midwest -
it's still a problem. Also true: public charging costs vary more than
gasoline and Diesel costs do.
In part those facts are related. Increasing
On 4 Nov 2021 at 11:52, David Nelson via EV wrote:
> I don't know where to source a 40kWh (note it is not kw, but kWh,
> kilowatt-hour) battery for a Leaf
Yup. KW measures the battery's ability to deliver power, not its energy
storage capacity.
But who knows? Maybe some Leaf owners really
On 7 Nov 2021 at 19:12, (-Phil-) via EV wrote:
> No images pass through the list.
Please post your photos in a PUBLIC, OPEN place (no signup or login
required, please, even if it's free).
That means ABSOLUTELY NOT EVER on Fakebook or Tweezer. Not even on an
allegedly public page. Sorry,
On 24 Oct 2021 at 20:23, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote:
> Were you making a joke, or did you not know that California passed such a law
> 7 years ago?
"Landlords are required to allow tenants to install EV charging stations" is
a good thing, but it isn't the same as "requiring owners of
On 23 Oct 2021 at 16:27, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
> EVs are charged while parked (usually at home or at work), not at
> public chargers.
I don't know that I'd say anything quite as final as "not at public
chargers," but for sure there's much more home charging than public
charging.
"Ford made a premium gas fragrance for EV owners who miss the smell of
fossil fuels"
https://www.theverge.com/2021/7/16/22580508/ford-gas-perfume-premium-mach-
eau
or https://v.gd/JkwfOE
Apparently this is a thing. Just today, hours before reading this, I was
chatting with a young sales
Although he dealt with HCs, CO, NOx, SO2, and particulates, but not CO2, one
of our own list members, Chip Gribben, put paid to that rubbish about 25
years ago. His thoroughly researched paper, "Debunking the Myth of EVs and
Smokestacks," is available in the EVDL library:
On 22 Jul 2021 at 3:47, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> I just got a CC from the EVDL. Is carbon copy now allowed with EVDL
> messages?
Short Answer: Yes and no.
Best Answer: No.
Long answer: No, but yes under some circumstances.
Even Longer Answer:
Because of antispam measures that big
On 17 Jul 2021 at 16:14, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
> I divided the total subsides by the gallons of diesel and gas used in the
> United States and got $3.76. That would put gas at 8 dollars a gallon.
For one thing, I can't figure out where you got $8. Up the road here the
filling stations
On 23 Jul 2021 at 11:47, paul dove via EV wrote:
> Many people believe oil is a couple of.
I guess there's a word or two missing there, because I have no idea what
that sentence is supposed to mean.
> with 100's of companies drilling, storing, transporting, refining etc.
> certain segments
On 24 Jul 2021 at 21:04, Michael Ross via EV wrote:
> The worst thing you can do to LiFPO is to charge it fully, and let it sit
> around, especially in a hot location.
Isn't that the case for lithium batteries of any chemistry? I'm not a
lithium expert by any means; I'm just asking.
It occurs
On 24 Jul 2021 at 18:38, paul dove via EV wrote:
> I suggest you disrobe it and charge it on a regular basis.
Oh, you young guys. That's all you think about. :-)
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On 27 Jul 2021 at 0:03, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote:
> Refurbished example are $30
Sorry, I meant to say refurbs are $350 on EBAY.
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I have some used EV parts looking for new homes. Shipping is extra. For
the freebies, you just pay shipping.
All offered as-is; NO WARRANTY on anything, of anything, or for anything.
I will sell all 3 DC:DC converters in one go for $60.
DC:DC converter - Todd PC-20-LV. For 96 volt
On 25 Jul 2021 at 13:12, Seth Rothenberg via EV wrote:
> what would it take to replace the cord + rectifier with some number of these
> 40V packs which are available at 6Ah?
If memory serves, Lee Hart did something similar with small Gates Cyclon
lead cells many years ago. I hope he'll chime
On 26 Jul 2021 at 9:06, Steve Clunn via EV wrote:
> If your 12v alx battery is going bad it could be pulling power from the DC to
> DC converter and draining the traction battery down more than usual.
Well said, and quite possible.
I had that happen to an EV in storage many years ago. I'd
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