Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-27 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
t; > > > -Original Message- > From: "Mark Abramowitz via EV" > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 09:35 > To: "Peri Hartman" > Cc: "Mark Abramowitz" , "Electric Vehicle Discussion > List" > Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Exp

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-27 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
: Thursday, October 26, 2017 11:49 AM To: Peri Hartman; Electric Vehicle Discussion List Cc: Mark Abramowitz Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot Why would a polluting ICE be better than a ZEV? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 26, 2017

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-26 Thread Seth Rothenberg via EV
I definitely can see a need for about 300 miles - From Passaic to Killington is 250 miles. With Skis on the roof and heater on the toes, more will be needed. But I believe the pressure will be on to solve the charge-in-transit challenge. I grew up in NYC. Most people in NYC get to work by grid-co

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-26 Thread jim--- via EV
more of stuff. 73 - Jim Walls - K6CCC j...@k6ccc.org -Original Message- From: "Mark Abramowitz via EV" Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 09:35 To: "Peri Hartman" Cc: "Mark Abramowitz" , "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Subject: Re: [EVDL

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ark Abramowitz" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: Sent: 26-Oct-17 8:49:14 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot Why would a polluting ICE be better than a ZEV? Sent from my

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-26 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
asking the > question. Personally, I don't think an ICE is better, environmentally, than > an EV. > > Peri > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Mark Abramowitz" > To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > >

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-26 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Why would a polluting ICE be better than a ZEV? Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 26, 2017, at 6:33 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > > Yep. 240, or maybe 300, miles range is sufficient for road trips. At least > for me. But charge time has to be quicker. At least 100kW? That's still 40-50 > minute

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
6-Oct-17 10:06:31 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot On 10/26/2017 11:40 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Oh, simple. If I want to take a 300 mile trip, and my EV can go 200+ miles on a charge, I will need to stop for an hour to

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-26 Thread Willie via EV
On 10/26/2017 11:40 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Oh, simple. If I want to take a 300 mile trip, and my EV can go 200+ miles on a charge, I will need to stop for an hour to charge. You and I might be willing to do that, but most people will not. And some people drive 600 or miles in a day. T

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
- From: "Mark Abramowitz" To: "Peri Hartman" ; "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: Sent: 26-Oct-17 8:49:14 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot Why would a polluting ICE be better than a ZEV? Sen

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Vehicle Discussion List" Cc: Sent: 26-Oct-17 8:49:14 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot Why would a polluting ICE be better than a ZEV? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2017, at 6:33 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: Yep. 240

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: (ice) Experts say there's no need for a 750mi EV-range sweet spot

2017-10-26 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Yep. 240, or maybe 300, miles range is sufficient for road trips. At least for me. But charge time has to be quicker. At least 100kW? That's still 40-50 minutes for an 80% charge. For now, I can rent an ICE on those occasions. But then we still need ICEs. Peri -- Original Message -- F