Re: [Evangelism] Announcing the new WPD Champion
Thanks for stepping up on this one, André. Much appreciated. -- Karl -- View this message in context: http://plone.293351.n2.nabble.com/Announcing-the-new-WPD-Champion-tp5733320p5734743.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Wrapping up 4.0
Congratulations, Eric, as you come down the home stretch. Just for fun, I took the bulleted points from http://plone.org/products/plone/features/4/ http://plone.org/products/plone/features/4/ and converted them into a Prezi presentation ( http://prezi.com/3ejcvekiipib/plone-4/ http://prezi.com/3ejcvekiipib/plone-4/ ). I've opened it up to the public, so anyone can hop in, make a copy, and refine/repurpose it. Suggestions for improvements and enhancements welcome. -- Karl -- View this message in context: http://plone.293351.n2.nabble.com/Wrapping-up-4-0-tp5445764p5447788.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: A Plone Prezi
I checked out your translation (not that I can read Italian) and was pleased to see that the layout didn't have to change in any significant manner. With some international fonts, I believe the Prezi style has to change, which may have a pretty radical effect on the entire layout. If anyone wants to take a go at Russian, Kanji, Arabic, Big Five, or other language, let us know how it turns out. As you can see, I went heavy on U.S. website screen captures, but there's no reason you couldn't replace any of the images with Italian Plone sites. This makes the presentation largely modular, where parts can be quickly substituted to fit, for example, an NGO or education audience. Thanks again, Karl -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/A-Plone-Prezi-tp4489073p4517675.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] A Plone Prezi
I've been plinking around with Prezi and one of my efforts has been http://bit.ly/d5kq3J short presentation on Plone . It keeps evolving with time, but has stabilized for the moment. A version can be generated for offline display since it's just a Flash app. Prezi's can be played in an endless loop (use the 'More' button), so perhaps something like this would be handy for use at some conventions and booths. Any feedback from the Evangelism list would be appreciated. -- Karl -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/A-Plone-Prezi-tp4489073p4489073.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Re: A Plone Prezi
My Plone Prezi has been marked for reuse, so others with Prezi accounts should be able to make their own copy and then modify it further. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/A-Plone-Prezi-tp4489073p4491049.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Please join us to chat about the future of Plone.net!
Excellent timing, Jon. This should get some visible improvements in place in time for WPD and the late spring Plone symposia. JonStahl wrote: The Plone Foundation board has asked me to kick off a conversation about how we can continue to refine and improve Plone.net so that it is an even more powerful and impressive showcase for Plone sites and providers. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Please-join-us-to-chat-about-the-future-of-Plone-net-tp4405331p4407334.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Interesting places to market plone
Dylan, Thanks for bringing this up. I can knock off that first item you mention, weekly downloads. As a first whack, the https://code.edge.launchpad.net/plone/+download LaunchPad numbers for the past 12 months (basically version 3.2 and up) total 1.14 M. Average weekly downloads are therefore right around 22,000. That puts Plone in 4th place just below Drupal and 4x higher than the next lower system. The great majority of Plone downloads are 3.2.1 and 3.2.2. Considering that most of CMS Wire's stats are self-reported by the respective dot orgs, I would give the actual LaunchPad numbers higher credibility. In their table (Exhibit 1, page 16) only Typo3 has actual SourceForge numbers. I'm a little surprised that CMS Wire couldn't find the Plone download statistics since they are publicly available on LaunchPad. Karl Dylan Jay wrote: Weekly download rate: Report didn't have data on plone so perhaps we could report the download count? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Interesting-places-to-market-plone-tp4390862p4391827.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] [DW] Query - Are any government-focused open source consortiums still operational?
Touch base with Deb Bryant. She's very active with open source and government. Try her Twitter account (http://twitter.com/debbryant) or her blog (http://www.bryantsblog.com/) for more information. kiazami wrote: Hi There, I am Csaba, working with Balazs in Hungary, and have run into this question at dowire.org. I think, we can add plonegov, but do you have other thing in your mind to share? Let me know pls.. Cheers Madarász Csaba tel.:+36703643482 Google Talk: madarasz.csaba Skype: bpanther360 Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/mcsaba Facebookhttp://www.facebook.com/csabam Youtube http://www.youtube.com/kiazami Twitterhttp://www.tiwitter.com/kiazami del.icio.us http://delicious.com/kiazami Blog RSShttp://nyilt.org/main/rss.xml Nyílt.org FSFE: EC caves in to proprietary lobbyists on interoperabilityhttp://nyilt.org/szabvany/FSFE_EC_caves_in_to_proprietary_lobbyists_on_interoperability -- Forwarded message -- From: Steven Clift cl...@e-democracy.org Date: 2010/1/6 Subject: [DW] Query - Are any government-focused open source consortiums still operational? To: newswire newsw...@groups.dowire.org I am noticing an uptick in interest again in promoting open source for use in government technology. This time more on economic reality grounds than philosophical. Are any government-oriented consortiums operational anywhere in the world? This could be either government directly, universities working with government, or technology vendors who serve government. Also, is there a short list government technology vendors who use open source tools actively? And finally is there a government website host that provides cookie cutter websites built on an open source platform? (The kind a small town might use for example.) Reply to me directly - clift (at) e-democracy.org or publicly via the Exchange: http://dowire.org/x Steven Clift http://stevenclift.com @democracy - Group home for Newswire - Steven Clift's Democracies Online Newswire: http://groups.dowire.org/groups/newswire Replies go to members of Newswire - Steven Clift's Democracies Online Newswire with all posts on this topic here: http://groups.dowire.org/r/topic/5QvjpRHawd1wVbJXlubiTi For digest version or to leave Newswire - Steven Clift's Democracies Online Newswire, email newsw...@groups.dowire.org with digest on or unsubscribe in the *subject*. Newswire - Steven Clift's Democracies Online Newswire is hosted by Democracies Online - http://dowire.org. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/DW-Query-Are-any-government-focused-open-source-consortiums-still-operational-tp4260555p4269456.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Value proposition and positioning
You might want to take a look at the http://www.coactivate.org/projects/plone-marketing/summary Plone Marketing Project at Co-Activate. --Karl ejah wrote: I got the strong impression from going through this list and other docs that we are having trouble with our positioning and value proposition. Maybe I missed some relevant documents, can then someone please provide me the pointer? I would like to help develop both for us. Would the forum be the place for that? Cheers, Ernst -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Value-proposition-and-positioning-tp4225263p4227203.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Strategy focus de cisions - Plone-the-product vs. Pl one-the-platform – Discovering a b log entry by Paul Everitt from 2008
One of our big Plone solutions reliably runs half a TB. More details in a case study early next year. ctxlken wrote: 5) Terabyte storage solutions. Documentum and their DMS-based ilk have handled this for years. How many large-scale storage Plone case studies are there on plone.net? Many a time, Plone integrators can't discuss the few successes that may exist here. Hopefully, this story improves with BLOB storage in Plone 4. I'm really interested to hear what their answer is though. Thanks Matt! Ken -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Fwd-Hack-Plone-Win-a-Mac-tp4080430p4097914.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Hack Plone! Win a Mac!
Just tossing my 2 cents worth in here -- if there were any Plone sites in the world that hackers were already targeting, it would be FBI and CIA. I'm sure we would have heard of any failure there. Meanwhile, I think the Foundation should sponsor a system of clandestine honeypots out there and monitor them religiously. Save the $$ on the Mac and pay Mark to get the msg out to the professional CMS reviewers. Karl Mark A Corum wrote: If Plone had previously been weak on security, and had gotten its act together, this might make sense. But in reality -- where Plone is a VERY secure system with a long-term record of protecting sites and data -- this kind of circus stunt is not a good idea. Mark -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Hack-Plone-Win-a-Mac-tp4027160p4076342.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Plone Wins Packt 2009 Award
Plone came away with the 2009 Packt http://www.packtpub.com/award Best Other Open Source CMS Award today. Spread the word and make hay before the other Packt winners are announced tomorrow and following days. Some things to think about: press release (Mark?), retweets, blog posts, etc. etc. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-Wins-Packt-2009-Award-tp3974742p3974742.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] PloneConf2009 Marketing Meeting
Please clarify -- 10:00 a.m. or 4:15 p.m. Budapest time? Francesco Ciriaci wrote: The last proposal is to move to 4.15 p.m. the meeting so that us evangelists can remotely join the discussion. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/PloneConf2009-Marketing-Meeting-tp3905920p3917065.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] PloneConf2009 Marketing Meeting
2:00 a.m. MDT -- n problem! My permanent jet-lag usually has me up at that hour anyway. Just check the times on my blog postings for the last year. :-)) -- Karl Francesco Ciriaci wrote: Hi all, due to the high number of people interested I've set up a page: http://www.coactivate.org/projects/plone-marketing/ploneconf2009-marketing-meeting the idea is to have it on DAY 3 - Open Space Day starting in the morning (at 10.00). Matt will find us some room. Please add you name if interested. Cheers, Francesco. -- Francesco Ciriaci Managing Director, Web Architect Reflab - design, development and consulting phone +39 050 754193 - mobile +39 333 4284675 skype: fciriaci - http://twitter.com/fciriaci ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/PloneConf2009-Marketing-Meeting-tp3897874p3903409.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] [Participants] Who's interested in a 2009:Plone Marketing Meeting?
Despite 8-9 time zones difference (daylight saving time ends in the US this weekend), is there a chance for remote participation? At the very least, capture on video and upload later. Also, be sure to post an evangelism/advocacy/marketing segment during the unconference on Friday. VirginiaChoy wrote: íhi Francesco, íííYes íi am very keen to meet, shall we run a marketing sprint on the weekend? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Who-s-interested-in-a-2009-Plone-Marketing-Meeting-tp3892656p3897026.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Plone Awards BoF at Plone Symposium East
Thanks for the update. I see Mark also responded off list overnight. Considering the current time frame (Budapest is sooner than one would like to think), I have to agree that we probably should scale the 1st Awards back so we can guarantee a successful maiden voyage and a repeat, if expanded, performance in 2010. Fewer categories? Simplified self-nomination? Let's talk this week with Mark (and others, if they can join us) and get definitive answers to your questions about process. Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday are best days to catch me. Wednesday is the best evening. matt_fisher wrote: Hey Karl, I can sort of only vaguely respond to this :) The BoFs were on Thursday after a long day, and I thought it might be a good idea to start the BoF combined with the Evangelism group since the folks who showed interest in Awards also signed up for the Evangelism BoF. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-Awards-BoF-at-Plone-Symposium-East-tp2948051p3006485.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Plone Awards BoF at Plone Symposium East
Any word on how the Plone Awards BoF at PSE went and next steps for the Awards? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-Awards-BoF-at-Plone-Symposium-East-tp2948051p3002463.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] report of the Plone Foundation booth at NTEN NTC conference in San Francisco
All of you deserve our thanks for doing such a bang-up job at NTEN. Even from afar, I noticed a huge upswing in positive Twittering about Plone. When people are publicly saying they're in love with Plone, you know you've done something right. Also, tip o' the hat to everyone who's been good enough to respond to those many tweets, especially the frustrated and negative ones. Karl Nate Aune wrote: Thanks to Jon Stahl, Chris Johnson, David Brenneman, Ross Patterson and Alexander Limi for helping out at the booth! Nate -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/report-of-the-Plone-Foundation-booth-at-NTEN-NTC-conference-in-San-Francisco-tp2745585p2752590.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Plone vs Drupal Security
There has been a Twitter exchange between David Straus and Alexander that has escalated onto Straus's blog regarding the relative security merits of Drupal and Plone. In my last comment I seem to have hit a nerve because David replied, Does Plone even have a system for reporting vulnerabilities in modular, community-maintained code? While I'm aware of Plone's bug tracking system and security-at-plone.org, I'm not actively involved with security issues as a core developer or an add-on product developer. I thought I'd turn to the community for a reasoned reply to him. Would someone kindly hop over to http://fourkitchens.com/blog/2009/04/03/vulnerability-reports-are-not-indications-weakness and set the record straight? Thanks in advance -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Plone-vs-Drupal-Security-tp2582469p2582469.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] promoting WPD
In Albuquerque, we've never had more than a Plone Users luncheon or happy hour. We took a baby step last year by using WPD to hold a Python/Zope/Plone open house. Our corporate daily newsletter gave us a paragraph to explain that we were discussing content management and web solutions to a variety of problems. Our attendees were most of the local Python community and many from the corporate web group. Only when someone arrived did they then learn that the event was a WPD one. This year we're going to expand our outreach into the broader community, involve other Plone shops, and see how it goes. I like the idea that Plone is quick web communication. I also think we'll emphasize the intersection of web content management, social software collaboration, and enterprise portal capabilities. If you explicitly promote WPD, I think you must be prepared to immediately follow that up by answering the question, What the heck is a Plone and why should I care? We dodged that by calling the event one thing and using WPD as the motivation, rationale, and the international glue. -- Karl Chris Calloway wrote: On 3/11/2009 1:35 PM, Scott Paley wrote: Thinking more about this though, who does WPD target? Are we trying to target those who don't have any idea what a CMS is? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/promoting-WPD-tp2461384p2466579.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: Re: [Evangelism] proposal for plone awards
Please see http://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/plone.pony/. Just set your text color to blue. :-D .,,. ,;;*, .-'``;-');;. /' .-. /*;; .'\d\;; .;;;, / o `\;,__. ,;*;;;*;, \__, _.__,' \_.-') __)--.;*, ``;;;\ /-')_) __) `\' ';; ;*;;;-') `)_) |\ | *; |`---`O | | ;;*;;; *;*;\| O / ;* ;/|.---\ / ;*; ;;;*;/ \|'. (`. ;;;*;;; ;'. ; | ) \ | ;; ,;*\/ |./ /` | ';;;*; ;;/|/ / /__/ ';;; '*jgs/ | /| ;*; ```` ;' JoAnna Springsteen wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Donna M Snow wrote: Oh JoAnna, LOL, I Love your girly sense of humor, heehee That so made my day Girly? Django has ponies. Plone even has a pony. Absolutely nothing girly about liking ponies. I bet the plone pony is even blue! ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/proposal-for-plone-awards-tp2311211p2323623.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] proposal for plone awards
Matt, I think this is a splendid way to raise visibility of Plone in general while giving a much deserved tip o' the hat to hard working, creative developers, designers, and even innovative users. Your proposal is much more effictive than my Plone Metrics Person-of-the-Year Award every Dec. 31. That one is entirely my call and is basically worth a free beer if a winner can find me.(BTW, previous winners were http://plonemetrics.blogspot.com/2007/12/plone-metrics-person-of-year_31.html Alexander Limi (2007) and http://plonemetrics.blogspot.com/2008/12/plone-metrics-person-of-year.html Joel Burton (2008).) Your concept provides a reasonably fair framework while rewarding a wide spectrum of Plone talent. I'll admit there'll be a certain amount of overhead work, but the internal and external payoffs are large. My only complaint is that Ploney rhymes with phony and that has pretty negative connotations. I'd go with something straight-forward like 1st Annual Plone Awards. Thanks for the well thought-out and detailed proposal. Karl matt_fisher wrote: Proposal: 1st Annual Ploney Awards File under: Marketing, viral and social What is it: Lightweight, semi-serious recognition for outstanding products, contributions and innovations in the Plone community in several categories. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/proposal-for-plone-awards-tp2311211p2314531.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] The Great Backyard Plone Count
Its that time of year again, the time when the folks at the Audubon Society ask birdwatchers everywhere to tally birds and submit their counts online at http://www.birdsource.org/gbbc/ their Plone-driven site . The Great Backyard Bird Count runs this Friday through Monday. In a bald-faced ripoff of their concept, this year I'm asking the Plone community to do the same and help out with a self-reporting Plone census. Although the data will be statistically biased, it will give us some idea of how many Plone intranet sites are out there hiding behind firewall. It may give us some comparison figures with the visible public Plone sites. With more data next year, we'll begin to track trends as well. There are more details at http://plonemetrics.blogspot.com/ my blog and in a short http://docs.google.com/Presentation?docid=dhc25jrt_50gbm8bgd8hl=en Google Docs presentation . Your data can be uploaded via a http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=py-ZRibpWMZVFrs1hhhE8Yghl=en Google Docs form or directly into the http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=py-ZRibpWMZVFrs1hhhE8Yghl=en summary spreadsheet . So take a few minutes' break from the binoculars and the birdwatching this weekend to upload a few Plone URLs. Thanks in advance, Karl -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/The-Great-Backyard-Plone-Count-tp2319834p2319834.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] WPD chat#1
Alas, my day-job doesn't permit IRC use, but feel free to ping me with e-mail during the discussion. Some of the post-mortim is at the http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=py-ZRibpWMZXMgI9P-XXweghl=en Google Docs summary or http://plonemetrics.blogspot.com/2008/11/world-plone-day-after-action-report.html my blog . -- Karl Roberto Allende wrote: Hello It would be nice if we meet on January 27th tuesday at 12pm (Timezone: Pacific Time) in order to talk about: - WPD 2008 post morten - WPD 2009 global organization The talk is #plone-evangelism at irc.freenode.net. The schedulle is a draft, we can discuss it during this week. Kind Regards r. -- http://menttes.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/WPD-chat-1-tp2185274p2191812.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] April 26, 2009 WPD ??
+1 here Donna Snow (SnowWrite)-2 wrote: OK guys I did a little digging and it looks like the May 27th date conflicts with Penn State's Symposium http://weblion.psu.edu/events/plone-symposium-east-2009 So how about we vote on the proposed April 28,2009?? So if you agree on April 28, 2009 (a Wednesday) then please respond to this thread with a +1 Best Regards, Donna M Snow, Principal C Squared Enterprises illuminating your path to Open Source http://www.csquaredtech.com ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/April-26%2C-2009-WPDtp1687451p1690266.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: Re: [Evangelism] World Plone Day 2009
I'll add my Saturday morning two bits to an already over-constrained problem: My company has a 9-80 work schedule (9 days, 80 hrs, every-other Friday off). We miss half the company by having WPD on a Friday. Of course this doesn't apply to the city as a whole if we expand our ABQ outreach. Since we're an older demographic, WPD will not likely spill over into the after-work hours. I'd be perfectly happy with Wednesday. One more thought: Budapest is 28 Oct. and backing up precisely 6 months gets us 28 Apr. -- Karl I would recommend late April or very early May. Why? Because universities typically have graduation the first weekend in May, after which a large part of the audience for WPD scatters to the winds until fall. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/World-Plone-Day-2009-tp1664833p1681982.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] plone for nonprofits slide deck
I was looking at Jon Stahl's recently uploaded http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/contributed-marketing-materials/Plone-for-nonprofits-2008.ppt slide deck for non-profits and noticed his shameless plug for https://www.packtpub.com/practical-plone-3-beginners-guide-to-building-powerful-websites/book Practical Plone 3 . That jogged my memory and I went back to YouTube and tracked down Jon's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh3hlU97_wo Online Social Networks: Can They Power Social Change? video, a one-hour collection of lightning talks. Sure enough, presentation #4 was Alex Steffen's and he tells a tale of marketing his organization's book. The video is a little rough and it takes awhile to get to the fourth talk, so I've http://www.travelschlepp.com/AlexSteffen.mp3 extracted the audio channel for those who like immediate gratification. The gist of the matter is that Amazon's algorithm for sales rank includes all pre-orders as part of the first day's total sales. That means a significant number of pre-orders can elevate a book very, very high on the lists. Alex used social networking to organize a pre-order campaign and the result was that the book rolled out with an Amazon sales rank of 500 followed soon after by 38,000(!) copies being ordered. Of course, this means we should run right over to http://www.amazon.com/s?field-keywords=practical%20plone%203 Amazon and pre-order Practical Plone 3 . The only problem is, the book is not yet available on Amazon. We're left with https://www.packtpub.com/practical-plone-3-beginners-guide-to-building-powerful-websites/book pre-ordering directly from the Publisher , our good friends at Packt. I'm not sure how Packt-published books make it into Amazon's system, but it seems like a good idea to follow Steffen's example and pile up the pre-orders on Amazon as soon as its available. I'd appreciate hearing from someone closer to the publishing process regarding the feasibility of this strategy and when/if we might see pre-ordering available on Amazon for the new edition of Practical Plone. (Cross-posted http://plonemetrics.blogspot.com/2008/11/practical-plone-preorders.html on my blog .) Jon Stahl wrote: I created a fairly-generic Plone for Nonprofits slide deck for a webinar hosted today by NTEN (http://nten.org)... I thought I'd share with y'all, it's now up at: http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-marketing/contributed-marketing-materials Please feel free to remix and reuse. Big thanks to Nate Aune, whose # 10 Things You Probably Didn't Know about Plone I stole a few slides and ideas from. best, jon -- Jon Stahl | Director of Web Solutions ONE/Northwest New tools and strategies for engaging people in protecting the environment www.onenw.org [EMAIL PROTECTED] 206-286-1235x15 http://blogs.onenw.org/jon Subscribe to ONEList, our email newsletter! Practical advice for effective online engagement http://www.onenw.org/full_signup ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/plone-for-nonprofits-slide-deck-tp1578981p1584885.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] World Plone Day 2008
Graham, Very cool online sticky notes at diigo. Thanks for introducing it to me. I was spelling out numbers ten and under except at the beginning of a sentence, but I agree, its probably a country-specific matter. You are correct about Vietnam. Interestingly, our colleague from there spelled the city as Ha Noi, but that appears to be westernized to Hanoi in North America and Europe. Don't know about France, though, because Hà Nội is the transliteration I see in Wikipedia. The placement of the URLs ahead of the link is an interesting artifact of embedded links here. Compare with the version in http://plonemetrics.blogspot.com/2008/11/world-plone-day-after-action-report.html my blog to see what I thought would appear. You are correct, though, in that they should be true hyperlinks or else parenthetical after the term in question. Along those lines (and I've seen it suggested elsewhere in the Plone marketing notes), we should have an elevator speech for each sector-specific category--business, education, science, government, NGOs, etc. In most cases I just linked to the appropriate support forum. Plonegov.org is a great example of what we should aspire to for each of these sectors. Your other edits are all well considered and I would recommend anyone using this release to make those changes. Some of the improvements you suggest are to text copied directly from plone.org. I suggest that the marketing community look into reflecting those enhancements back into the core material. I, too, am not one who writes press releases and in fact don't have a clear idea of what the next step is. Hopefully Nate or Mark or someone else knowledgeable will come to our rescue. :-) Cheers, Karl Graham Perrin wrote: Hi ... suggestions in sticky notes at http://www.diigo.com/annotated/9fdb698e2696b74ab86f2c4468a316a7. Where I have highlighted the numbers, some of the numbers below 100 might expressed as words, so for example Forty of the sixty-one but for sure, the grammatical rules may vary from country to country etc. so that's a very minor point. I don't do press releases but to me it does read nicely :) Kind regards Graham -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/World-Plone-Day-2008-tp1487270p1507850.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] World Plone Day 2008
How's this for a start? Feel free to edit heavily and/or translate. Those with good contacts in the media, kindly distribute this or other information before WPD becomes last week's news. Thanks. _ News flash! With 66% of the event sites reporting in, the first http://plone.org/events/wpd World Plone Day can claim success. Friday 7 November was http://plone.org/events/wpd World Plone Day , a coordinated worldwide series of meetups, seminars, and workshops. Events were scheduled from Buenos Aires, Argentina to Hanoi, Viet Nam with a healthy representation in North America and Europe. Truly an international day of Plone, 30 countries on five continents were involved. http://plone.org/about/plone/ Plone is a ready-to-run, open source content management system that is built on the powerful and free Zope application server. Plone is easy to set up, extremely flexible, and provides you with a system for managing web content that is ideal for project groups, communities, web sites, extranets and intranets. Forty of the 61 registered venues have reported in, showing a total of 982 participants who listened to 107 presenters. Extrapolating to those sites that have yet to record their guest count, perhaps 1500 participants world wide were engaged in learning about Plone. Over 40 companies sponsored events throughout the globe, which were sanctioned by the not-for-profit http://plone.org/foundation Plone Foundation , the legal owner of the Plone codebase, trademarks, and domain names. Activities ranged from small, informal gatherings with ad hoc presentations to large, formal sessions with a half dozen presentations, refreshments, and door prizes. Brasilia, Brazil had the largest event with 128 attendees. Events were tied together in more than enthusiasm for Plone--live blogging, Twitter, and streaming video were all used to interconnect participants. World Plone Day is anticipated to become an annual event to advocate the benefits of using Plone in http://plone.org/support/for/edu/ education , http://www.plonegov.org/ government , http://plone.org/support/for/nonprofits/ non-profit/non-governmental organizations , and http://plone.org/support/for/enterprise/ business . For more information, contact http://plone.org/support/forums the Plone support lists . Gerry Kirk-3 wrote: Definitely should be done, no later than this Friday. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/World-Plone-Day-2008-tp1487270p1504290.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Postmortem for WPD
Thanks, Nate. I was not aware of that feature--it looks pretty cool. I'll be sure to try that the next time I'm requesting info. As it stands, we now (WPD+4) have 15 responses out of 60 WPD venues. 493 confirmed attendees. That's an average of almost 33 attendees per venue. If one extrapolates to 60 sites, that's 1972 visitors(!). Largest event so far: 128 people attending the WPD at Brasilia, Brazil. (Tip o' the hat to whoever added the summary formulae to the spreadsheet.) Any way you slice the numbers, WPD was a success, especially considering it was our first go at this. For those of you who hosted an event and haven't submitted results, kindly see http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=py-ZRibpWMZXMgI9P-XXweghl=en. We're accumulating some really useful textual lessons-learned as well as raw attendance numbers. Karl Nate Aune wrote: Karl - do you know about the forms feature that is new with Google Spreadsheets? This might be a more simple and safe way to collect the data than having folks edit the raw table cells. Nate -- Nate Aune - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.jazkarta.com -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Postmortem-for-WPD-tp1476019p1488858.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] World Plone Day 2008
From the results piling in at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=py-ZRibpWMZXMgI9P-XXweghl=en, it looks like 835 attendees were reported at 33 venues. Extrapolating to the 60 pre-registered venues, we may have had over 1500 attendees world-wide. Brasilia, Brazil is still top of the chart with 128 attendees. -- Karl -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/World-Plone-Day-2008-tp1487270p1492766.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: Re: [Evangelism] Lessons learned from the first World Plone Day
Donna, Consider connecting with computer science faculty at a local community college. They often have free access to unscheduled facilities when the general public does not. Partnering with faculty can also drive up interest with students. As an adjunct professor at the College of Santa Fe, I have free use of a mega-classroom (~125 seats) and four 20-seat computer labs, all with projection equipment. CSF-Albuquerque focuses on evening and weekend classes, so daytime use is easily worked out. Then again, I may be incredibly fortunate to have such a cool benefit from CSF. (BTW, look for an ABQ Sprint next year to take advantage of CSF space as well.) Also, some public libraries have available public meeting space for groups your size. Best of luck, Karl Donna Snow (SnowWrite)-2 wrote: The event was expensive for me (nearly $1,000 when all was said and done). It's difficult to find free space in this area. Google wasn't willing to provide a space and most universities I contacted (believe it or not) wanted to charge an hourly rate for the event. The other thing I realized is we (the Plonista's in this area) really need to get out there and promote the living daylights out of Plone. We are not as Plone friendly in this area (unlike some of our European counterparts). So next year we start earlier and I try harder to find a location that is free (or very low cost). -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Lessons-learned-from-the-first-World-Plone-Day-tp1471191p1477147.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
Re: [Evangelism] Lessons learned from the first World Plone Day
The 2009 World Conference will be announced on Dec. 12 and hopefully that will include a scheduled week. I suggest waiting a month until we know more about that. However, for a first approximation, I see that 6 and 13 Nov. are possibilities (if you're not afraid of Friday the Thirteenth). -- Karl Jan Ulrich Hasecke-2 wrote: 3. More time to prepare the World Plone Day The DZUG e.V. (German Zope User Group) is planning its annual schedule in late december or early january. In 2008 the WPD-idea came too late for us, so that we could not support our community in an optimal way. For our annual plan for 2009 it is crucial to know whether and when apporximately there will be a WPD in 2009. I would propose to have a WPD not too late in the year, to avoid conflicts with the Plone Conference, but I am fine with a World Plone Day in next years november again. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Lessons-learned-from-the-first-World-Plone-Day-tp1471191p1472172.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
RE: Re: [Evangelism] Operation Ditch Plone
No apologies necessary, Howard. As a statistician, I stumbled upon your site looking for online data points, and as a Plone implementer I felt your pain. When our Python guru left, we wandered around in the wilderness for quite a few months but eventually found a balance. It can be very lonely trying to keep a Plone instance healthy. Oddly enough, it was an exploit of a cross-site scripting vulnerability that forced us through a painful and hurried upgrade from 2.1 to 2.5, but once on the other side, things have gone much more smoothly. Alas, one of our portals didn't survive the migration and failed. The other 30 or so have done well. We have funding budgeted for the move to 3.x this year under less pressure. whew I'm sure our single sys admin breaks out in a cold sweat every time I remind him that when 3.2 is stable, we'll need to migrate our 2.5 production environment. My initial reaction was to see if there was help out there in the Plone community for your specific problems. Secondarily was the desire to see the Plone support structure continue to improve itself. UNM's Earth Data Analysis Center here in Albuquerque drifted away from Plone as they required ever more highly customized Python applications. By chance, a State Dept.-funded project (wacsi.unm.edu) that had a critical need for English-Arabic dual language capabilities pushed Plone back into the mix. Even so, a CMS like Plone may not fit the typical use-case for GIS developers. I'll be interesting to see where this all leads in the GIS-Plone world. I hope Kim, Chris, and others continue to interact with you and provide useful technical assistance. Perhaps your Plone site will survive into 3.1 and beyond. One good thing about all this is that the Plone community is looking inside itself to see how it can better structure its support and organize its documentation for admins such as yourself. I was very pleased with the timely response that my intial posting raised on the Plone boards. Best, Karl From: Howard Butler (via Nabble) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:44 PM To: Horak, Karl Subject: Re: Re: [Evangelism] Operation Ditch Plone On Nov 3, 2008, at 5:37 PM, Chris Calloway wrote: On 11/2/2008 11:40 PM, T. Kim Nguyen wrote: Here, with his permission, is the start of an email exchange with Howard Butler at umn... I count myself a member of the MapServer community (there are *several* Plone integrators in the MapServer community) and there are some things you should know about this. One is: http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/community/polls/website-future/questionnaire_view_results I have edited the RFC to no longer denigrate Plone. My frustrations were misplaced, and I'm sorry for taking it out on the Plone project. http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/development/rfc/ms-rfc-46 Howard ___ Evangelism mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://n2.nabble.com/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=nodenode=1462985i=0 http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism View message @ http://n2.nabble.com/Operation-Ditch-Plone-tp1446111p1462985.html To unsubscribe from Operation Ditch Plone, click here (link removed) . -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Operation-Ditch-Plone-tp1446111p1463301.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] Operation Ditch Plone
While trolling the web for Plone stats, I came across a seriously negative webpage (on a Plone site!?) obviously by a frustrated Plone user. His web posting is titled Operation Ditch Plone. Please see http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/development/rfc/ms-rfc-46 http://mapserver.gis.umn.edu/development/rfc/ms-rfc-46 . This item is a Sept. 2008 posting with nothing new being added recently, so there may be time for a positive intervention. This brings to mind two issues. 1) Specifically, how can the Plone community reach out and help Howard and his users? Can this Plone site be saved? 2) More generally, how can we locate and identify frustrated Plone admins and mitigate any negativity? Can we set up a formal process to track sites in danger of falling off the Plone wagon? Would it be possible to assign a POC who could act as a liaison between their admin(s) and Plone tech support? I think it would be valuable if the Plone community had a process that tracks frustrated users and implementers, reach out to them even when they haven't asked or don't know how to ask for help, give them the TLC they need, and minimize the consequences of failed Plone projects. Some of the input that identifies floundering Plone sites would come from the technical support lists and channels, but some could come from people who stumble upon negative blogs and rants on the web. I'd appreciate hearing from others about if and/or how we should be attempting this. If someone with a stronger server admin background wants to help Howard directly, I'd appreciate hearing about that, too. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Operation-Ditch-Plone-tp1446111p1446111.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
[Evangelism] NOLA Plone Symposium remote support
I know many of you reading this will be at the New Orleans Symposium next week. Unfortunately, I won't be, although one of my colleagues will likely be there (if we can cut through all the administrivia in the next few days). Even so, I thought I'd put on my Plone advocacy hat and volunteer in a remote role. If members of the Plone community need some statistical number crunching, graphics, data mining, or whatever, let me know and I'd be glad to crank on things this weekend or next week. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/NOLA-Plone-Symposium-remote-support-tp17518456s6741p17518456.html Sent from the Evangelism mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Evangelism mailing list Evangelism@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/evangelism
