Re: Losing Control

2013-03-18 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: As I said, a common definition of control is the ability to determine something's behaviour according to your wishes. That you have wishes is independent of whether you have free will, whatever the definition of

Re: Dartmouth neuroscientist finds free will has neural basis

2013-03-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Mar 2013, at 17:02, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:47:05 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Mar 2013, at 03:47, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:15:43 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 15 Mar 2013, at 20:38, Craig Weinberg wrote: On

My Genealogy is Now Online

2013-03-18 Thread Roger Clough
Hi My Genealogy (down from John and Jane Clough, who came to Plymouth Bay Colony in 1635) is Now Online at http://www.academia.edu/3044786/My_Genealogy_--_Roger_Bristol_Clough Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 3/18/2013 Coincidences are God's way of remaining anonymous. - Albert Einstein --

The mind is a quantum computer

2013-03-18 Thread Roger Clough
Hi michael haaheim Since mind is a MQS or Multiple Quantum Superposition, it can process information at the rate of a quantum computer. Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 3/18/2013 Coincidences are God's way of remaining anonymous. - Albert Einstein - Receiving the following content -

Mind is a quantum computer

2013-03-18 Thread Roger Clough
Since mind is an MQS or Multiple Quantum Superposition, it can process information at the rate of a quantum computer. - Roger Clough Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 3/18/2013 Coincidences are God's way of remaining anonymous. - Albert Einstein -- You received this message because you are

Re: The mind is a quantum computer

2013-03-18 Thread Richard Ruquist
Roger, Even faster. Instantly from a human perspective, otherwie the universe cannot be holographic. Richard On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 7:44 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi michael haaheim Since mind is a MQS or Multiple Quantum Superposition, it can process information at the

Re: My Genealogy is Now Online

2013-03-18 Thread Richard Ruquist
Hi Roger, Very interesting. I was born in the town of Bristol, Connecticut, no doubt named after your middle name. I will consult your genealogy. However, I am a mere first-generation American, descended from Swedish emmigrants and a French American mother. So I am half firs- generation

Re: My Genealogy is Now Online

2013-03-18 Thread Richard Ruquist
Roger's link to his genealogy: Page Not Found Sorry, we can't find the page you're looking for. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Roger, Very interesting. I was born in the town of Bristol, Connecticut, no doubt named after your middle name. I

Re: Dartmouth neuroscientist finds free will has neural basis

2013-03-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, March 18, 2013 6:01:18 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Mar 2013, at 17:02, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:47:05 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Mar 2013, at 03:47, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:15:43 PM UTC-4, Bruno

My genealogy is now online

2013-03-18 Thread Roger Clough
Hi My Genealogy (down from John and Jane Clough, who came to Plymouth Bay Colony in 1635) is Now Online at http://www.academia.edu/3044786/My_Genealogy_--_Roger_Bristol_Clough Dr. Roger Clough NIST (ret.) 3/18/2013 Coincidences are God's way of remaining anonymous. - Albert Einstein Dr.

Re: My genealogy is now online

2013-03-18 Thread Richard Ruquist
Fascinating Roger, I find it interesting that the names Bristol and Beecher were passed down through the generations, one a remembrance of where we came from and the other a remembrance of who we were. Richard On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote: Hi My

Re: My genealogy is now online

2013-03-18 Thread Telmo Menezes
Could you discuss this in private please? On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote: Fascinating Roger, I find it interesting that the names Bristol and Beecher were passed down through the generations, one a remembrance of where we came from and the other a

Re: Losing Control

2013-03-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, March 18, 2013 2:28:34 AM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:25 PM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: As I said, a common definition of control is the ability to determine something's behaviour according to your wishes. That you have

Re: A Consistent QM Histories explanation of synchronicity and Sheldrake's morphisms.

2013-03-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Mar 2013, at 20:40, meekerdb wrote: On 3/16/2013 10:55 AM, tjp.bay...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, March 16, 2013 3:39:55 PM UTC, Roger Clough wrote: We live in an indefinite world of superposed quantum states, Doesn't it depend what you mean by 'live'? As far as I can see, I live

Re: Dartmouth neuroscientist finds free will has neural basis

2013-03-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Mar 2013, at 18:22, meekerdb wrote: On 3/15/2013 7:16 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: You're walking down a road and spot a fork in the road far ahead. You know of advantages and disadvantages to both paths so you arn't sure if you will go right or left, you haven't finished the

Re: Dartmouth neuroscientist finds free will has neural basis

2013-03-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 15 Mar 2013, at 18:07, meekerdb wrote: Craig thinks his theory mind is perfectly compatible with physics because he thinks physics is different from what all those stupid physicists think it is. They just don't know about his top-down physics, which no one has observed but which he

Re: Dartmouth neuroscientist finds free will has neural basis

2013-03-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Mar 2013, at 18:40, John Clark wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: So all free will means is that sometimes we can make correct predictions about what we will do before we do it, and sometimes we cannot, and in general beforehand there

Re: Mind is a quantum computer

2013-03-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
Hi Roger, On 18 Mar 2013, at 12:48, Roger Clough wrote: Since mind is an MQS or Multiple Quantum Superposition, it can process information at the rate of a quantum computer. Since you seem to talk philosophy, let me translate what you say for our friends the scientists. If we assume

Re: Dartmouth neuroscientist finds free will has neural basis

2013-03-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 18 Mar 2013, at 14:26, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Monday, March 18, 2013 6:01:18 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Mar 2013, at 17:02, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:47:05 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 17 Mar 2013, at 03:47, Craig Weinberg wrote: On

Re: Dartmouth neuroscientist finds free will has neural basis

2013-03-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, March 18, 2013 12:25:47 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 15 Mar 2013, at 18:22, meekerdb wrote: On 3/15/2013 7:16 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: You're walking down a road and spot a fork in the road far ahead. You know of advantages and disadvantages to both paths so you

Re: Dartmouth neuroscientist finds free will has neural basis

2013-03-18 Thread John Mikes
friends: don't put so much brain-grease into Free Will, please! It is the religious mambo-jumbo put into the mind of the poor-believers in ancient times to make them responsible for deeds the powerful disliked - and consequently: make them punishable. Then it became a 'human treasure': *We are

Re: G.K. Chesterton on Materialism

2013-03-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, March 18, 2013 11:33:17 AM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: G K Chesterton wrote: For we must remember that the materialist philosophy (whether true or not) is certainly much more limiting than any religion. That is absolutely true, there are more ways of being wrong than of being

Re: Dartmouth neuroscientist finds free will has neural basis

2013-03-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, March 18, 2013 4:02:51 PM UTC-4, JohnM wrote: friends: don't put so much brain-grease into Free Will, please! It is the religious mambo-jumbo put into the mind of the poor-believers in ancient times to make them responsible for deeds the powerful disliked - and consequently:

Re: Losing Control

2013-03-18 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: But compatibilists and incompatibilists could agree on all the facts of the matter and still disagree on free will, which makes it a matter of definition. The argument is then over which definition is most commonly

Re: Dartmouth neuroscientist finds free will has neural basis

2013-03-18 Thread meekerdb
On 3/18/2013 1:02 PM, John Mikes wrote: friends: don't put so much brain-grease into Free Will, please! I'm not. That's why I was careful to distinguish freedom and the feeling of freedom from will and the feeling of resolve. We can have them together, but that doesn't make them into one

Re: Dartmouth neuroscientist finds free will has neural basis

2013-03-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, March 18, 2013 7:57:06 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 3/18/2013 1:02 PM, John Mikes wrote: friends: don't put so much brain-grease into Free Will, please! I'm not. That's why I was careful to distinguish freedom and the feeling of freedom from will and the feeling of

Re: Losing Control

2013-03-18 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34:59 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 3:18 AM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: But compatibilists and incompatibilists could agree on all the facts of the matter and still disagree on free will, which makes it a

Re: Mind is a quantum computer

2013-03-18 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 07:39:44PM +0100, Bruno Marchal wrote: Hi Roger, On 18 Mar 2013, at 12:48, Roger Clough wrote: Since mind is an MQS or Multiple Quantum Superposition, it can process information at the rate of a quantum computer. Since you seem to talk philosophy, let me

Re: Losing Control

2013-03-18 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: If you say that free will is compatible with determinism then you are an compatibilist, otherwise you are an incompatibilist. Why do you try to make the discussion difficult by refusing to agree on terminology?