On 29 December 2013 13:11, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jason and John,
If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic process.
That's the meaning.
I thought the digits of pi were random, but computable by a deterministic
process?
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On 28 Dec 2013, at 16:24, Jason Resch wrote:
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net
wrote:
Jason,
Have you gotten to Part III of my book on Reality yet? It explains
how all randomness is quantum, and it explains the source of that
randomness is the lack of any
in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There
simply is no true classical level randomness. There is plenty of non-
computability which is often mistaken for randomness but all true
randomness at the classical level percolates up from the quantum
level.
At the fundamental
? It explains
how all randomness is quantum, and it explains the source of that
randomness is the lack of any governing deterministic equations
when the mini-spacetimes that emerge from quantum events have be
aligned due to linking at common events.
I have not, but my point is there is already
On 29 Dec 2013, at 11:37, LizR wrote:
On 29 December 2013 13:11, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jason and John,
If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic
process. That's the meaning.
I thought the digits of pi were random, but computable by a
deterministic
On Dec 29, 2013, at 4:37 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 December 2013 13:11, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jason and John,
If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic
process. That's the meaning.
I thought the digits of pi were random, but
On 12/29/2013 2:37 AM, LizR wrote:
On 29 December 2013 13:11, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net mailto:edgaro...@att.net
wrote:
Jason and John,
If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic process.
That's the
meaning.
I thought the digits of pi were random, but
Well OK, but that's *one* way in which randomness isn't quantum.
On 30 December 2013 07:59, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/29/2013 2:37 AM, LizR wrote:
On 29 December 2013 13:11, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jason and John,
If something is random it can't be
Jason,
Have you gotten to Part III of my book on Reality yet? It explains how all
randomness is quantum, and it explains the source of that randomness is the
lack of any governing deterministic equations when the mini-spacetimes that
emerge from quantum events have be aligned due to linking
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Jason,
Have you gotten to Part III of my book on Reality yet? It explains
how all randomness is quantum, and it explains the source of that
randomness is the lack of any governing deterministic equations when
the mini
of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic.
As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There
simply is no true classical level randomness. There is plenty of
non-computability which is often mistaken for randomness but all true
randomness at the classical level
in a new topic as they raised the important
topic of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic.
As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There
simply is no true classical level randomness. There is plenty of
non-computability which is often mistaken
that deserves a separate topic.
As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There
simply is no true classical level randomness.
Have you gotten to step 3 in the UDA yet? It explains how true
randomness can emerge without assuming QM.
Jason
There is plenty of non
are exact.
However the way space can emerge and be dimensionalized from these
computations is random which is the source of all randomness. This quantum
level randomness can either be damped out or amplified up to the Classical
level depending on the information structures involved.
To use Liz's
on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There
simply is no true classical level randomness. There is plenty of
non-computability which is often mistaken for randomness but all true
randomness at the classical level percolates up from the quantum level.
At the fundamental computational level all
On 12/28/2013 4:11 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Jason and John,
If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic process. That's the
meaning.
That's one possible meaning, although it can only strictly apply to infinite sets of
something. I think of random as just being an
Replying to Liz and Jason in a new topic as they raised the important topic
of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic.
As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There simply
is no true classical level randomness. There is plenty of non-computability
which
Assuming everything is quantum (as most physicists do) then clearly all
randomness must be.
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On 12/27/2013 8:52 PM, LizR wrote:
Assuming everything is quantum (as most physicists do) then clearly all
randomness must be.
But note that Bruno wants to avoid this by making first-person continuity
uncertain.
Brent
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On 28 December 2013 19:45, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 12/27/2013 8:52 PM, LizR wrote:
Assuming everything is quantum (as most physicists do) then clearly all
randomness must be.
But note that Bruno wants to avoid this by making first-person continuity
uncertain.
Hmm. Not
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Edgar L. Owen edgaro...@att.net wrote:
Replying to Liz and Jason in a new topic as they raised the important
topic of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic.
As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There
simply
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