Re: Sean Carroll's new book

> On 27 Sep 2019, at 23:24, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 9/27/2019 12:35 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: >> BTW Sabine Hossenfelder just posted her Many Worlds view: >> >> http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/09/the-trouble-with-many-worlds.html >>

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5, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean >> Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? >> >> John K Clark >> >> I have not read his book, but I h

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:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean >> Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? >> >> John K Clark >> >> I have not read his book, but I have read his papers

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On Saturday, September 28, 2019 at 5:54:21 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 9/28/2019 3:42 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > >> The "new" matter (and energy and space and information) are discounted >> by the probability of their existence. It seems curious to me that the MWI >> advocates want to t

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On 9/28/2019 3:42 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: The "new"  matter (and energy and space and information) are discounted by the probability of their existence. It seems curious to me that the MWI advocates want to take the wave function ontologically but not the Hilbert space.  From

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AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion >>> about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read >>> it? >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >> >> I

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On 9/28/2019 2:17 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 2:29:24 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: On 9/27/2019 3:38 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: 1) There is no hint from experiments of a violation of unitary time > evolution according to the Schrodinger equ

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 2:29:24 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 9/27/2019 3:38 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > 1) There is no hint from experiments of a violation of unitary time >> > evolution according to the Schrodinger equation. >> >> Except every measurement ever made in every exper

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 6:23:58 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:40 PM Philip Thrift > wrote: > >> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 2:56:42 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:01 PM Quentin Anciaux >>> wrote: >>> And you forgot 3- it'

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 7:40 PM Philip Thrift wrote: > On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 2:56:42 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:01 PM Quentin Anciaux >> wrote: >> >>> >>> And you forgot 3- it's always the same matter in w0 and w1, just seen >>> from another POV, like a cir

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 3:23:20 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 9/27/2019 2:40 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: > > hilip Ball talks about Hossenfelder's take, then Orzel's take: > > > https://philipball.blogspot.com/2019/09/just-how-conceptually-economical-is.html > : > > ... > > *Sabine Hos

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On 9/27/2019 12:35 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: BTW Sabine Hossenfelder just posted her Many Worlds view: http://backreaction.blogspot.com/2019/09/the-trouble-with-many-worlds.html Sabine writes: /The reason is this. In the many worlds interpretation, if you set up a detector for a measurement

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On 9/27/2019 4:57 AM, Bruce Kellett wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:30 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:38 PM Alan Grayson wrote: On Wednesday, S

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On 9/27/2019 3:38 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: 1) There is no hint from experiments of a violation of unitary time > evolution according to the Schrodinger equation. Except every measurement ever made in every experiment ever run. *But if every interaction with the environment in dec

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On 9/27/2019 2:40 AM, Philip Thrift wrote: hilip Ball talks about Hossenfelder's take, then Orzel's take: https://philipball.blogspot.com/2019/09/just-how-conceptually-economical-is.html  : ... *Sabine Hossenfelder*: "Many Worlds in and by itself doesn't say anything about whether the paral

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

 Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? John K Clark I have not read his book, but I have read his papers and the one he coauthored with Sebbens. I know what he has done. I am definitely agnostic about MWI as I am with all interpreta

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

. 27 sept. 2019 à 08:41, Philip Thrift a >> écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 7:01:19 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >

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19 at 8:15:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:11 AM Philip Thrift wrote: On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me

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> On 27 Sep 2019, at 14:26, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:57:33 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:30 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:38 PM Alan Grayson > wr

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

> On 27 Sep 2019, at 09:56, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:01 PM Quentin Anciaux > wrote: > > And you forgot 3- it's always the same matter in w0 and w1, just seen from > another POV, like a circle in a 2d plane could be thought to be from a sphe

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UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean > Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? > > John K Clark > > I hav

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

> On 27 Sep 2019, at 02:34, 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > wrote: > > > > On 9/26/2019 5:01 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a

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runo > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List > To: everything-list > Sent: Thu, Sep 26, 2019 8:35 pm > Subject: Re: Sean Carroll's new book > > > > On 9/26/2019 5:01 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:57:33 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:30 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:38 PM Alan Grayson >>> wrote: >>> On Wednesday, September 25, 20

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:30 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:38 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:56:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: Except every measurement ever m

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 7:35:04 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: > > > > On 9/26/2019 5:01 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> >> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinio

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:38 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:56:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >>> >>> >>> Except every measurement ever made in every experiment ever run. >>> >> >> *But if every

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 8:38 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:56:31 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: >> >> >> Except every measurement ever made in every experiment ever run. >> > > *But if every interaction with the environment in decoherence satisfies > unitary time evolutio

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

> >>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:11 AM Philip Thrift > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> It seems that nearly everyone on the list ha

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Friday, September 27, 2019 at 2:56:42 AM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:01 PM Quentin Anciaux > wrote: > >> >> And you forgot 3- it's always the same matter in w0 and w1, just seen >> from another POV, like a circle in a 2d plane could be thought to be from a >> sphere or

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 5:01 PM Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > And you forgot 3- it's always the same matter in w0 and w1, just seen from > another POV, like a circle in a 2d plane could be thought to be from a > sphere or a cylinder intersecting a 2d plane, so if you see the many 2d > planes interse

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

gt;> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >>>> >>>> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion >>>> about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read >>>> it? >&g

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everyone on the list has a strong opinion >>> about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read >>> it? >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >> >> I have not read his book, but I have read his papers and the one he >

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Thursday, September 26, 2019 at 7:01:19 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> >> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean >> Carroll's new book, but has

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groups.com> wrote: > >> On 9/26/2019 5:01 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion >>> about Sean Carroll's n

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

ohn Clark wrote: It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? John K Clark I have not read his book, but I have read his papers and the one he coautho

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

;> On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion >>> about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read >>> it? >>> &

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a strong opinion about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? John K Clark I have not read his book, but I have read his papers and the one he coauthored with Sebbens. I know what he has done. I am definitely agnostic about MW

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

rly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean >> Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? >> >> John K Clark >> > > I have not read his book, but I have read his papers and the one he > coauthored with Sebbens. I k

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

Original Message- From: 'Brent Meeker' via Everything List To: everything-list Sent: Thu, Sep 26, 2019 8:35 pm Subject: Re: Sean Carroll's new book On 9/26/2019 5:01 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:

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On 9/26/2019 5:01 PM, Lawrence Crowell wrote: On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? John K Clar

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:01 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> >> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean >> Carroll's new

Re: Sean Carroll's new book

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean > Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? > > John K Clark > I have not read his book, but I h

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AM Philip Thrift wrote: On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? John K Clark _> He has posted several excepts (im

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September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? John K Clark _> He has posted several excepts (images of pages from the book) on Twitter

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that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? John K Clark _> He has posted several excepts (images of pages from the book) on Twitter and this excerpt_ https://lithub.com/if-you-existed-in-multiple-unive

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strong opinion about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? John K Clark _> He has posted several excepts (images of pages from the book) on Twitter and this excerpt_ https://lithub.com/if-you-existed-in-multiple-universes-how-would-you-act-in-this-one/ [

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On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 8:37:12 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:30 AM Philip Thrift > wrote: > > > *What specifically in the book makes Many Worlds compelling vs. the >> one-world alternatives? And if there is nothing in the Many Worlds approach >> that is

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On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:30 AM Philip Thrift wrote: > *What specifically in the book makes Many Worlds compelling vs. the > one-world alternatives? And if there is nothing in the Many Worlds approach > that is really better than a one-world approach, why multiply worlds beyond > necessity? And w

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that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion >>> about Sean Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read >>> it? >>> >>> John K Clark >>> >> >> >> *> He has posted several excepts (images of pages from t

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On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 9:11 AM Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: >> >> It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean >> Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than m

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On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 6:54:59 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > It seems that nearly everyone on the list has a strong opinion about Sean > Carroll's new book, but has anyone other than me actually read it? > > John K Clark > He has posted several except

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