On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
> In my view, any experiment is based on some assumptions (a world view). To
> this end, it would be nice to understand what a world view would be
> necessary to state that "the thermostat feels cold". I guess it is certainly
> possible to in
On 22.08.2011 09:14 Stathis Papaioannou said the following:
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi
wrote:
In my view, any experiment is based on some assumptions (a world
view). To this end, it would be nice to understand what a world
view would be necessary to state that "the thermost
On 8/22/2011 3:41 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I would agree that we cannot exclude it. After all if we take qualia
ontologically, then it is hard to escape panpsychism. Let me quote
Gray in this respect (he was not aware of Bruno's theory):
p. 321. "Alternatively, no such new arrangement of the
On 20 Aug 2011, at 23:48, Craig Weinberg wrote:
PART I
On Aug 20, 12:16 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 20 Aug 2011, at 03:14, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:43 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 17 Aug 2011, at 06:47, Craig Weinberg wrote:
Not sure I understand. Do I hope for this world and
On 21 Aug 2011, at 15:28, Craig Weinberg wrote:
PART II
On Aug 20, 12:16 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Thanks for explaining. It's interesting but I am more looking at
taking the Cartesian approach further, so that rather than reducing
experience to gated logics and assuming that it is primitive
Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 18 Aug 2011, at 20:13, benjayk wrote:
Hm... OK. I am not sure that there ar
On Aug 21, 3:04 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 21 Aug 2011, at 19:18, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> >> On 21 Aug 2011, at 14:43, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> >>> That's why the mechanist position is critically flawed as a
> >>> cosmological-ontological TO
On 8/22/2011 10:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
If you make it a 3D-hologram of an actress, with
odorama and VR touchback tactile interfaces, then is it a zombie? If
you connect this thing up to a GPS instead of a cinematically scripted
liturgy and put it in an information kiosk, does it become a zom
On Aug 22, 1:06 pm, meekerdb wrote:
> On 8/22/2011 3:41 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
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> > I would agree that we cannot exclude it. After all if we take qualia
> > ontologically, then it is hard to escape panpsychism. Let me quote
> > Gray in this respect (he was not aware of Bruno's theory):
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On 8/22/2011 12:11 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Aug 22, 1:06 pm, meekerdb wrote:
On 8/22/2011 3:41 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I would agree that we cannot exclude it. After all if we take qualia
ontologically, then it is hard to escape panpsychism. Let me quote
Gray in this respect (
No, we see the effect of photons on our receptors.
Our dreams re-inact that effect.
On Aug 12, 9:01 pm, Craig Weinberg wrote:
> On Aug 12, 9:55 pm, meekerdb wrote:
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> > Photons don't carry charge. If they did they'd interact with other
> > photons and we wouldn't be able to see anything.
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Animate? Inanimate? "Conceptually" we cannot compare "identity" of *
complexities,* because we compare only as much as we know of and that is
incomplete.
"Zombie" I consider an artifact for a certain (mental?) fantasy-explanation
without basis.
Also 'dynamic' or 'static' is in *our view* streamline
On Aug 22, 1:30 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 20 Aug 2011, at 23:48, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> > On Aug 20, 12:16 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> >> On 20 Aug 2011, at 03:14, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> >>> On Aug 18, 9:43 am, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 17 Aug 2011, at 06:47, Craig Wei
On Aug 22, 1:56 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
> On 21 Aug 2011, at 15:28, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> >> My point is that, by definition of philosophical zombie, they behave
> >> like normal and sane human being. It is not walking coma, or
> >> catatonic
> >> behavior. It is full human behavior. A zomb
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM, RMahoney wrote:
> No, we see the effect of photons on our receptors.
> Our dreams re-inact that effect.
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There are many who say that waking life is really just a dream that is
modulated by the senses. This is because the brain does a lot of inventing
in cases
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