Re: Why is Church's thesis a Miracle?

From: *Bruno Marchal* mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> On 28 Sep 2018, at 06:29, Bruce Kellett > wrote: But you do not seem to go the additional step of saying that mathematical objects, numbers and so on, are objects that actually exist (which would be a form of

Re: Gene Drive and morality

On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 01:42:02PM -0400, John Clark wrote: > Russell Standish wrote: > > > >There is also the possibility of wholesale ecosystem collapse, not > just some birds. Do you know that these mosquitos _aren't_ a keystone > species? > > > I don't know anything for certain

Re: Why is Church's thesis a Miracle?

On 9/28/2018 2:10 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: It's not something outside mathematics that is true OK. in the sense that ice is cold. That is also a belief by some machine, and it might be recovered in their phenomenology, in arithmetic. We cannot discuss in the abstract. Doing

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 4:37:17 PM UTC, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 4:04:41 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 28 Sep 2018, at 11:32, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 1:02:36 AM UTC,

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 6:49:37 PM UTC, kujawski...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Thank you everybody for your responses. > > Bruno Marchal I looked at your statement, they are very interesting but > some very good neruoscientists argue that brain is not like computer > Here for example

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

Thank you everybody for your responses. Bruno Marchal I looked at your statement, they are very interesting but some very good neruoscientists argue that brain is not like computer Here for example (4min video) Edelman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qmyfQY4TaVc Please give me your thought

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

Thank you everybody for your responses. O Lord discussion go very technical, maybe I'm too uneducated for questions like that, but at least I have some glimpses on intuitive level. Bruno Marchal I looked at your statement, they are very interesting but some very good neruoscientists argue that

Some modal logics for conscious agents research

The Other-Condemning Moral Emotions - A Modal Logic Approach https://dspace.library.uu.nl/handle/1874/319982 A logic for reasoning about counterfactual emotions https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0004370210002110 A logic for intention

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:00:58 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > Yet, I define matter by “the object of study of physics”, or the study of > the observable mode, making strong materialism implying physicalism. > > > Bruno > I think (along with Philip Goff*) that physics is not

Re: Why is Church's thesis a Miracle?

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 11:20:04 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Sep 2018, at 13:02, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 3:07:28 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 27 Sep 2018, at 21:41, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday,

Re: Gene Drive and morality

Russell Standish wrote: > > *>There is also the possibility of wholesale ecosystem collapse, notjust > some birds. Do you know that these mosquitos _aren't_ a keystonespecies?* I don't know anything for certain about the environment and never will but I have a strong hunch the 40 mosquito

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 4:04:41 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Sep 2018, at 11:32, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 1:02:36 AM UTC, kujawski...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about

Re: Why is Church's thesis a Miracle?

> On 28 Sep 2018, at 13:02, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 3:07:28 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 27 Sep 2018, at 21:41, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 7:44:04 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 26

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

> On 28 Sep 2018, at 17:10, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 8:52:19 AM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 12:42:11 PM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:44:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote:

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

> On 28 Sep 2018, at 17:09, smitra wrote: > > On 28-09-2018 00:34, kujawskilucja...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about >> Mathematical Universe, there are very big arguments for that >> hypothesis: >> - applicability of mathematic, to

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

> On 28 Sep 2018, at 11:32, agrayson2...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 1:02:36 AM UTC, kujawski...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about > Mathematical Universe, there are very big arguments for that hypothesis: >

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

> On 28 Sep 2018, at 14:42, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:44:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 28 Sep 2018, at 00:34, kujawski...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about >> Mathematical

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 8:52:19 AM UTC-5, agrays...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 12:42:11 PM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:44:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 28 Sep 2018, at 00:34,

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

On 28-09-2018 00:34, kujawskilucja...@gmail.com wrote: Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about Mathematical Universe, there are very big arguments for that hypothesis: - applicability of mathematic, to natural sciences - all we discovere are structures and I didnt

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 12:42:11 PM UTC, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:44:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 28 Sep 2018, at 00:34, kujawski...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about >>

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 2:44:18 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 28 Sep 2018, at 00:34, kujawski...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about > Mathematical Universe, there are very big arguments for that hypothesis: > > > Yes,

Re: Why is Church's thesis a Miracle?

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 3:07:28 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 27 Sep 2018, at 21:41, Philip Thrift > > wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 7:44:04 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >> >> On 26 Sep 2018, at 19:32, Philip Thrift wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I should add

Re: #darkmatter theory

> On 27 Sep 2018, at 22:27, Brent Meeker wrote: > > The dark matter of a galaxy responsible for the flat rotation curve is > presumably in a cloud of spherical orbits around the galaxy. It doesn't > collapse to a disk, as the visible matter does, because being dark it doesn't > radiate away

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

On Friday, September 28, 2018 at 1:02:36 AM UTC, kujawski...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about > Mathematical Universe, there are very big arguments for that hypothesis: > f > - applicability of mathematic, to natural sciences > - all

Re: Why is Church's thesis a Miracle?

> On 28 Sep 2018, at 06:51, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 9/27/2018 9:29 PM, Bruce Kellett wrote: >> From: Bruno Marchal mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> >>> >>> But now, let us move forward. Stop saying “realism or platonism”, in pour >>> metaphysical context this lead to misunderstanding. >>>

Re: Why is Church's thesis a Miracle?

> On 28 Sep 2018, at 06:29, Bruce Kellett wrote: > > From: Bruno Marchal mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> >> >> But now, let us move forward. Stop saying “realism or platonism”, in pour >> metaphysical context this lead to misunderstanding. >> >> Assuming classical arithmetic = arithmetical

Re: Why is Church's thesis a Miracle?

> On 27 Sep 2018, at 23:08, Brent Meeker wrote: > > > > On 9/27/2018 5:38 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >> >>> On 27 Sep 2018, at 03:31, Bruce Kellett >> > wrote: >>> >>> From: Bruno Marchal mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be>> > On 26 Sep 2018, at 02:36, Bruce

Re: Why is Church's thesis a Miracle?

> On 27 Sep 2018, at 21:41, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 7:44:04 AM UTC-5, Bruno Marchal wrote: > >> On 26 Sep 2018, at 19:32, Philip Thrift > >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I should add that in parallel to mathematical logic and computability theory >> and

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

> On 28 Sep 2018, at 06:52, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, September 27, 2018 at 8:02:36 PM UTC-5, kujawski...@gmail.com > wrote: > Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about > Mathematical Universe, there are very big arguments for that hypothesis: >

Re: Mathematical Universe Hypothesis

> On 28 Sep 2018, at 00:34, kujawskilucja...@gmail.com wrote: > > Hello I think this good forum for this topic - what do you think about > Mathematical Universe, there are very big arguments for that hypothesis: Yes, it was proved as a consequence of the Mechanist Hypothesis (well before