Hi Brent,
Absolutely, but do we need to spend time chasing off the charlatans? I
leave it to people like Sam Harris and James Randi to do that. OTOH, we must be
careful that we are not imposing an authoritarian regime upon the world such
that only “authorized” persons can put form ideas and
On 5/18/2011 11:29 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Hi Brent,
Oh you bet! Chopra and those like him have not done us any favors,
but can we truly begrudge people from making a buck of a book that is
a soft version of the ideas we are considering?
I can certainly begrudge a charlatan who charg
On 5/18/2011 11:26 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Hi Brent,
I am happy to be wrong inn that opinion! But nevertheless finding
a physicists what will admit publicly what you mention is difficult.
Onward!
Stephen
My friend Vic Stenger (a physicist) not only admits it publicly he has
attempte
Hi Brent,
Oh you bet! Chopra and those like him have not done us any favors, but can
we truly begrudge people from making a buck of a book that is a soft version of
the ideas we are considering? Not all people are on the far right hand side of
the bell curve.
Onward!
Stephen
From: meeke
Hi Brent,
I am happy to be wrong inn that opinion! But nevertheless finding a
physicists what will admit publicly what you mention is difficult.
Onward!
Stephen
From: meekerdb
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 2:00 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: On the Sequencing of Obs
On 5/18/2011 10:30 AM, Rex Allen wrote:
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/18/2011 7:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
That is how meditation and dissociative drug can help you to remind the
consciousness of the "blanche machine", the consciousness of the virgin
Löbian machin
On 5/18/2011 10:39 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Dear Bruno,
How beautifully said! This is a rediscovery of ideas that we find
in many mythological systems. We are God that forgot what we truly are.
Onward!
Stephen
Careful. Don't go all "Deepak Chopra" on us. :-)
Brent
*From:* Bruno M
On 5/18/2011 10:44 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Hi Rex,
I agree with you 100%! I am amazed that this idea is considered as
a horrid heresy by most physicists
You seem to have an uninformed opinion of physicists. The physicists I
know don't consider anything "heresy" because they consider
Hi Rex,
A very good point! There must be a place for "false memories" in our
modal logics. Could these be included in the Bp & p where the p is not
necessarily "true" in all worlds?
Onward!
Stephen
-Original Message-
From: Rex Allen
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:30 PM
To: eve
Hi Rex,
I agree with you 100%! I am amazed that this idea is considered as a horrid
heresy by most physicists that continue to think of “space-time” as some kind
of “container” that we exist in much like insects trapped in amber.
Onward!
Stephen
-Original Message-
From: Rex
Dear Bruno,
How beautifully said! This is a rediscovery of ideas that we find in many
mythological systems. We are God that forgot what we truly are.
Onward!
Stephen
From: Bruno Marchal
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 12:11 PM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: On the Sequen
Hi Brent,
True, but we are trying to get out of anthropocentric constrains ( I
hope!). The question is aimed at trying to drill down further into the concept
of consciousness and to see if Russell’s ideas are correct (as discussed in his
book) and those of Bruno by exploring their implicati
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 5/18/2011 7:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
>
> That is how meditation and dissociative drug can help you to remind the
> consciousness of the "blanche machine", the consciousness of the virgin
> Löbian machine. Memories only differentiate conscio
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:40 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> On 5/16/2011 7:13 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
>>
>> [SPK]
>> I was trying to be sure that I took that involves the possibility that
>> the OMs are computationally disjoint into account. This covers your example,
>> I think...
>>
>> I am wonde
On 5/18/2011 9:21 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Hi Brent,
Interesting! If we follow this idea, that memory is not necessary
for consciousness, then consciousness does not require a persistent
structure to supervene upon. No?
Onward!
Stephen
I don't see how that follows. "Require" in what
Hi Brent,
Interesting! If we follow this idea, that memory is not necessary for
consciousness, then consciousness does not require a persistent structure to
supervene upon. No?
Onward!
Stephen
From: meekerdb
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 11:38 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Sub
On 18 May 2011, at 17:38, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/18/2011 7:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
That is how meditation and dissociative drug can help you to
remind the consciousness of the "blanche machine", the
consciousness of the virgin Löbian machine. Memories only
differentiate consciousness.
Dear Bruno,
I am interested in more of your thinking on several ideas that you
mention in this post.
1) The 8 hypostases as N-OM; N = 1 - 8
2) Is this "physical instantiation of a 3-OM is an infinite mathematical
object" phrasing equivalent to saying that the "physical" instantiation of a
On 5/18/2011 7:58 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
That is how meditation and dissociative drug can help you to remind
the consciousness of the "blanche machine", the consciousness of the
virgin Löbian machine. Memories only differentiate consciousness.
Are you claiming that every thought includes a m
On 5/18/2011 7:51 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:40 PM, meekerdb wrote:
The other theory that Stathis is explicating takes OM's to be atomic and
discrete. In that case they would have to be strung together by some
internal reference, one to another. I don't think
On 18 May 2011, at 02:46, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/17/2011 5:24 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 May 2011, at 19:40, meekerdb wrote:
On 5/16/2011 7:13 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
[SPK]
I was trying to be sure that I took that involves the
possibility that the OMs are computationally disjoint
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:40 PM, meekerdb wrote:
> The other theory that Stathis is explicating takes OM's to be atomic and
> discrete. In that case they would have to be strung together by some
> internal reference, one to another. I don't think that's a viable theory
> since in order to make t
Are you talking about a "Star Trek" term or for certain space-times,
the ability to go forwards or backwards in time relative to a distant
observer?
Ronald
On May 16, 3:31 pm, selva wrote:
> hi everyone,
>
> can someone explain me what a time warp is ? or why there is a time
> warp ?
> well yes
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