Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Just, logically from what we know from infectious disease specialists, there often is a subset of individuals who react badly to inoculation. Does this invalidate the research and development that may have prevented millions of deaths? No, but there is no reason to oppose DeSantis or say, some

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread Stathis Papaioannou
On Sun, 18 Dec 2022 at 13:09, Dylan Distasio wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:38 PM Brent Meeker > wrote: > >> >> Why would you want the vaccine to stay in your left bicep? Does someone >> suppose that a pertussis, or measles or polio vaccine just stayed in one >> tissue? And the word

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Well, the thing is scientifically is not to do what the dem-progressives do which is demand that everyone get vaccinated, but to have some biological screening done to prevent those with medical-genetic dispositions to be harmed by vaccination damage, to not be subjected to a death warrant? 

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
JC is 100% correct upon his Hypersonic Missile comment, save that Hypersonic Cruise Missiles was something we in the US didn't push for because why do OverKill? JC was and is correct that regular ICBM's go into space and use MIRV's to hit their targets at speeds faster than Hypersonic missiles

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread Dylan Distasio
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 8:38 PM Brent Meeker wrote: > > Why would you want the vaccine to stay in your left bicep? Does someone > suppose that a pertussis, or measles or polio vaccine just stayed in one > tissue? And the word "nanoparticle" is misleading. I believe the mRNA > molecules are in

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/17/2022 3:01 PM, Dylan Distasio wrote: There are plenty of reputable researchers and MDs who have raised concerns over the safety of mRNA nanoparticles as a delivery vehicle; it's not necessary to go to the Epoch times to find these concerns, and it's not a conspiracy theory. It is

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 6:43 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: *> The risk/reward calculation on vaccination versus risking natural > infection is not the same for all cohorts, which I'm sure you understand. * > Tucker Carlson made a big stink on his silly Fox show when he said 4863 people died shortly

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread Dylan Distasio
The risk/reward calculation on vaccination versus risking natural infection is not the same for all cohorts, which I'm sure you understand. Your assertion is not accurate for young cohorts which is what the second BMJ article speaks to. On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 6:30 PM John Clark wrote: > On

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 6:25 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: *> Not all cohorts are equal in regard to Covid-19, so with apologies, it's > not as simple as that.* > No, some things are EXACTLY as simple as that. Those who are suspicious of the COVID-19 vaccine tend to die and those that aren't don't.

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
The problem is, Mr. D. is that he peeps on the mailing list here go by ideology and the ideology is Progressive, where human concerns be damned ideological faith and loyalty is #1. It's not about the science it's about the "faith." For me personally? I am a Pfizer enthusiast, unsure of Moderna,

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread Dylan Distasio
You may be fine placing people, including yourself, into oversimplified buckets, but how do you even know what my philosophy is. Not all issues are black and white, and some nuance is required to set proper ethical public policy. Not all cohorts are equal in regard to Covid-19, so with

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 6:01 PM Dylan Distasio wrote: *> There are plenty of reputable researchers and MDs who have raised > concerns over the safety of mRNA* > That's all very nice but I repeat, the statistics couldn't be clearer, those who believe in your philosophy regarding mRNA and that of

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
I'd definitely explore the Jew laser thing! Consider me an enthusiast.Ooops! Already being worked on.  https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/us-israel-develop-iron-beam -Original Message- From: Brent Meeker To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, Dec 17, 2022 5:35

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 5:58 PM wrote: *> There have been many deaths, unexpected, with those who are young, and* > [blah blah blah] > I repeat, the statistics couldn't be clearer, those who believe in your philosophy regarding vaccination and that of DeSantis tend to die, and those who believe

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Very Nice! You and I hold Darwin as the good guy and truly a man ahead of his time. Like Thomas Malthus, we die off and decrease the surplus population, Mr. Scrooge. Except, my belief is that 2 more years of Joey-DNC will piss off more people then auto-suicide, and increase the votes for

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread Dylan Distasio
There are plenty of reputable researchers and MDs who have raised concerns over the safety of mRNA nanoparticles as a delivery vehicle; it's not necessary to go to the Epoch times to find these concerns, and it's not a conspiracy theory. It is pretty clear at this point that the nanoparticles in

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
There have been many deaths, unexpected, with those who are young, and very young. Let us find out if the vaccines have unexpected and deadly side effects & who may, say, by genetic markers, or whatever medical, should avoid the vaccines like the plague. Thus, it's a worthwhile pursuit.  The

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 5:22 PM wrote: *> Attacking DeSantis will gain you nothing since* [blah blah blah] Let's cut through the bullshit and get to the core of the matter, and that's easy to do because the statistics couldn't be clearer, those who believe in your philosophy regarding

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread Brent Meeker
On 12/17/2022 2:01 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote: It does not in any case explore the notion of vaccines causing harm to people who would have lived without the jab? That was "explored" by vaccinating a few thousand volunteers before approval of public release by the FDA. I go

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
Yeah, the funny thing is why should a plurality of people on this continent accept the citations you support?As the jokes now goes"   "They said, follow the science. I followed the science and found the money!"  For me, the science either stands on its own or doesn't? If there is a cover up that

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 5:01 PM spudboy100 via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: * > I go with the science on this because it is a fair medical question. So > does DeSantis. * And DeSantis believes that the right people to do science are lawyers and right wing political

Re: A major fusion breakthrough?

2022-12-17 Thread John Clark
On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 6:02 PM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> I wrote a white paper years ago about putting Lithium 6 in a target, say > a foil. Deuterium ions are accelerated to the foil so that Li6 + D --> Be8 > --> 2He4 plus 24 MeV. That energy is in the form

Re: A major fusion breakthrough?

2022-12-17 Thread Lawrence Crowell
With deuterium that does not fuse, they can be recycled back in a loop with quadrupolar magnets. The He4 that result from fusion will have a larger scattering angle and these can be sent into an MHD generator. LC On Friday, December 16, 2022 at 5:58:50 PM UTC-6 spudb...@aol.com wrote: > Oh

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread John Clark
On Sat, Dec 17, 2022 at 7:20 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: *> Please, you cite the Epoch Times, which is a pure propagandist rag. > Nobody with a credible argument cites them.* Spudboy is very fond of spewing out lots and lots of citations, but typically none of

Re: Death, science, and politics

2022-12-17 Thread Lawrence Crowell
Please, you cite the Epoch Times, which is a pure propagandist rag. Nobody with a credible argument cites them. Further, the corporations contribute to both parties, and during nominal socio-economic times they do so rather equally. Normally the main difference between a republican and a