On 28 Sep 2012, at 20:30, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/28/2012 10:55 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 27 Sep 2012, at 19:18, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/27/2012 9:52 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I object to the idea that consciousness will cause a brain or
other
machine to behave in a way not predictable by
Platonia and Contingia
We are all somewhat familiar with Platonia,
the Platonic source of order in the world.
I suggest that there must also be Contingia,
that being our contingent, everyday world, which,
following Boltzmann and the concept of entropy,
is the source of disorder.
I would also
Hi Bruno Marchal
1) A monad is something like a soul, to which a homunculus is attached.
Human humunculuses have intellect, feeling and body, animal
and perhaps vegetable monads only have feeling and body,
and bodies of matter only have the body partition. All are
considered to be alive.
In
Pre-established harmony comp in relation to Platonia and Contingia
I would also like to suggest that the pre-established harmony (PEH)
of Leibniz is more complex but still acts as Leibniz intended,
while one might apply traditional cosmological concepts to it.
Perhaps someone with more physics
HEY!
It's nice to see other people noticing the same thing that I have
been complaining about. Thank you, Brent!
On 9/29/2012 3:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I *can* know the exact position of an electron in my brain, even if
this will make me totally ignorant on its impulsions. I can
On 24.09.2012 18:23 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/24/2012 2:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 23 Sep 2012, at 18:33, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 23.09.2012 16:51 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 23 Sep 2012, at 09:31, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 22.09.2012 22:49 meekerdb said the
On 29 Sep 2012, at 12:21, Stephen P. King wrote:
HEY!
It's nice to see other people noticing the same thing that I
have been complaining about. Thank you, Brent!
On 9/29/2012 3:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I *can* know the exact position of an electron in my brain, even
if this
On 29 Sep 2012, at 14:43, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 24.09.2012 18:23 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/24/2012 2:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 23 Sep 2012, at 18:33, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
On 23.09.2012 16:51 Bruno Marchal said the following:
On 23 Sep 2012, at 09:31, Evgenii Rudnyi
On Friday, September 28, 2012 11:36:36 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 12:46 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:10:37 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Craig Weinberg
On Friday, September 28, 2012 11:56:07 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com wrote:
You are contradicting yourself. 1) Nothing special about biology 2)
Evolution is utterly helpless to create 'complex things' until it stumbled
on biology.
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
But
leaving that obvious fact aside, the other obvious fact is that
evolution has used organic chemistry to make self-replicators because
that was the easiest way to do it. Do you imagine that if it were easy
to
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
The spark plugs don't fire in response to the will of the driver, the brain
does. This isn't magic, this is the ordinary process by which we participate
in the world in every waking moment of our lives. It is not the
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
The principle is not the same. You cannot get a head transplant and assume
that the 'you'-ness is going to magically follow the scalpel into your head
from your body. You cannot get a prosthetic head, because without
On 9/29/2012 5:43 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I have understood Brent in such a way that when engineers develop
a robot they must just care about functionality to achieve and
they can ignore consciousness at all. Whether it appears in the
robot or not, it is not a business of engineers. Do you
On 9/29/2012 7:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Yes, and the fact that we cannot know which one bears us here and now. The QM
indeterminacy is made into a particular first person comp indeterminacy.
Where is the here and now if not a localization in a physical world.
Perhaps, but you need to
On 29.09.2012 21:28 meekerdb said the following:
On 9/29/2012 5:43 AM, Evgenii Rudnyi wrote:
I have understood Brent in such a way that when engineers
develop a robot they must just care about functionality to
achieve and they can ignore consciousness at all. Whether it
appears in the robot or
On 9/29/2012 10:11 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 29 Sep 2012, at 12:21, Stephen P. King wrote:
HEY!
It's nice to see other people noticing the same thing that I have
been complaining about. Thank you, Brent!
On 9/29/2012 3:49 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
I *can* know the exact position of
On Saturday, September 29, 2012 2:14:34 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
The spark plugs don't fire in response to the will of the driver, the
brain
does. This isn't magic, this is the ordinary process
On Saturday, September 29, 2012 2:42:56 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
The principle is not the same. You cannot get a head transplant and
assume
that the 'you'-ness is going to magically follow the
On Saturday, September 29, 2012 1:41:25 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
But
leaving that obvious fact aside, the other obvious fact is that
evolution has used organic chemistry to make self-replicators
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote:
What test do you use to determine if it is still you after a certain
procedure?
You do half of the procedure, then walk them back off, then the other half
and walk them back off, then you do the whole procedure
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.comwrote:
On Saturday, September 29, 2012 1:41:25 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
wrote:
But
leaving that obvious fact aside, the other obvious fact is that
On Saturday, September 29, 2012 10:49:47 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote:
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
On Saturday, September 29, 2012 1:41:25 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Craig Weinberg whats...@gmail.com
On Saturday, September 29, 2012 9:42:52 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote:
On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Craig Weinberg
whats...@gmail.comjavascript:
wrote:
What test do you use to determine if it is still you after a certain
procedure?
You do half of the procedure, then walk
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