Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:32 AM, meekerdb wrote: >> >> On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> Would this kind of universality of human sense-making be likely if the >> connections between words, shapes, and feeli

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:09 AM, chris peck wrote: > Hi Roger > > hmmm. sort of. Lowering interest rates, creating cheap money, in part > encouraged banks to lend to people they ordinarily would not have. This put > more buyers on the market and that increase in demand led to a rise in house > pri

Re: Capitalism : the way of creating wealth OUT OF THIN AIR

2013-07-16 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 16 Jul 2013, at 16:08, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 2:09 AM, chris peck wrote: Hi Roger hmmm. sort of. Lowering interest rates, creating cheap money, in part encouraged banks to lend to people they ordinarily would not have. This put more buyers on the market and that i

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Friday, July 12, 2013 10:49:20 PM UTC-4, Jason wrote: >> >> >> >> >> I think functionalism (or more specifically, computationalism) is the >> currently leading theory of mind among cognitive scientists and >> philosophers. It is nei

Why you should study Leibniz

2013-07-16 Thread Roger Clough
Why you should study Leibniz Leibniz is what you might call a Platonist; he is an anti-materialist. Just as Marx turned Hegel upside down, so Leibniz turns today's cult of materialism on its head. I believe he's in the vanguard of theoretical physics, yet is difficult to understand (a lar

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:32:28 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > > On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > Would this kind of universality of human sense-making be likely if the > connections between words, shapes, and feelings were purely computational? > > > Why not? Being a broken line v

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:41:28 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:32 AM, meekerdb > > wrote: > >> On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> Would this kind of universality of human sense-making be likely if the >> connections between words

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:18:52 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:32 AM, meekerdb > > > > wrote: > >> > >> On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > >> > >> Would this

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread meekerdb
On 7/16/2013 12:37 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:32:28 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: Would this kind of universality of human sense-making be likely if the connections between words, shapes, and feelings were purely comp

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread meekerdb
On 7/16/2013 12:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:41:28 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:32 AM, meekerdb > wrote: On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: Would this kind of universality of human sense-making

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:21:27 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > > On 7/16/2013 12:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:41:28 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:32 AM, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Wei

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:18:09 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > > On 7/16/2013 12:37 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:32:28 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: >> >> On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> Would this kind of universality of human sense-making be likely

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread meekerdb
On 7/16/2013 1:37 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:21:27 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/16/2013 12:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:41:28 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:32 AM, meekerdb wrote:

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread meekerdb
On 7/16/2013 1:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:18:09 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/16/2013 12:37 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:32:28 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: Would this kind of

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:44:20 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: > > On 7/16/2013 1:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:18:09 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: >> >> On 7/16/2013 12:37 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:32:28 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:51 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Monday, July 15, 2013 6:41:28 PM UTC-4, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:32 AM, meekerdb wrote: >> >>> On 7/15/2013 2:30 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: >>> >>> Would this kind of universality of hum

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread meekerdb
On 7/16/2013 2:08 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:44:20 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/16/2013 1:38 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 4:18:09 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote: On 7/16/2013 12:37 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Monday, July

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread Pierz
I pretty much agree with you Jason. The materialist simply posits that the conciousness of a person (or conscious being) represents a static track through the 4d block universe, misperceived as changing due to something about the way the brain processes. What this account fails to explain howev

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread Pierz
John has a button on his forehead with the words "free will" written on it. It's a bit like Woody's string in Toy Story that causes him to say "reach for the sky" when you pull it. If you push John's free will button he says something like, "How quaint! The 'free will' noise. What on earth does

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread meekerdb
On 7/16/2013 5:16 PM, Pierz wrote: I pretty much agree with you Jason. The materialist simply posits that the conciousness of a person (or conscious being) represents a static track through the 4d block universe, misperceived as changing due to something about the way the brain processes. What

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread Pierz
On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:30:24 AM UTC+10, Brent wrote: > On 7/16/2013 5:16 PM, Pierz wrote: > > > I pretty much agree with you Jason. The materialist > simply posits that the conciousness of a person (or conscious > being) represents a static track through the 4d block u

Re: Cross Modal Synesthetic Abstraction

2013-07-16 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote: > > > On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:18:52 AM UTC-4, telmo_menezes wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:41 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:32 AM, meekerdb wrote: >> >> >> >> On 7/15/2013 2

Re: General Relativity and Consciousness

2013-07-16 Thread Jason Resch
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Pierz wrote: > I pretty much agree with you Jason. The materialist simply posits that the > conciousness of a person (or conscious being) represents a static track > through the 4d block universe, misperceived as changing due to something > about the way the brain