Well OK, but that's *one* way in which randomness isn't quantum.
On 30 December 2013 07:59, meekerdb wrote:
> On 12/29/2013 2:37 AM, LizR wrote:
>
> On 29 December 2013 13:11, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
>
>> Jason and John,
>>
>> If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic
>>
On 12/29/2013 2:37 AM, LizR wrote:
On 29 December 2013 13:11, Edgar L. Owen mailto:edgaro...@att.net>>
wrote:
Jason and John,
If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic process.
That's the
meaning.
I thought the digits of pi were random, but computable by a
On Dec 29, 2013, at 4:37 AM, LizR wrote:
On 29 December 2013 13:11, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Jason and John,
If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic
process. That's the meaning.
I thought the digits of pi were random, but computable by a
deterministic process?
T
On 29 Dec 2013, at 11:37, LizR wrote:
On 29 December 2013 13:11, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Jason and John,
If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic
process. That's the meaning.
I thought the digits of pi were random, but computable by a
deterministic process?
Well,
of the source of randomness that deserves a
separate topic.
As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum.
There simply is no true classical level randomness.
Have you gotten to step 3 in the UDA yet? It explains how true
randomness can emerge without assuming QM.
Jas
that deserves a separate
topic.
As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There
simply is no true classical level randomness. There is plenty of non-
computability which is often mistaken for randomness but all true
randomness at the classical level percolates up
On 28 Dec 2013, at 16:24, Jason Resch wrote:
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:04 AM, "Edgar L. Owen"
wrote:
Jason,
Have you gotten to Part III of my book on Reality yet? It explains
how all randomness is quantum, and it explains the source of that
randomness is the lack of any
On 29 December 2013 13:11, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
> Jason and John,
>
> If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic process.
> That's the meaning.
>
> I thought the digits of pi were random, but computable by a deterministic
process?
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On 12/28/2013 4:11 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Jason and John,
If something is random it can't be computed by any deterministic process. That's the
meaning.
That's one possible meaning, although it can only strictly apply to infinite sets of
something. I think of "random" as just being an insta
>>
>> John Mikes
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Edgar L. Owen
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Replying to Liz and Jason in a new topic as they raised the important
>>> topic of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic.
&
ndom within the
>> circumstances of the topic.
>>
>> John Mikes
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
>>
>>> Replying to Liz and Jason in a new topic as they raised the important
>>> topic of the source of randomn
t 11:40 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
>>
>>> Replying to Liz and Jason in a new topic as they raised the important
>>> topic of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic.
>>>
>>> As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There
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> John Mikes
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
>
>> Replying to Liz and Jason in a new topic as they raised the important
>> topic of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic.
>>
>> As I explain in my book on Real
a new topic as they raised the important
> topic of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic.
>
> As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There
> simply is no true classical level randomness. There is plenty of
> non-computability which is
On Dec 28, 2013, at 7:04 AM, "Edgar L. Owen" wrote:
Jason,
Have you gotten to Part III of my book on Reality yet? It explains
how all randomness is quantum, and it explains the source of that
randomness is the lack of any governing deterministic equations when
the mini-space
Jason,
Have you gotten to Part III of my book on Reality yet? It explains how all
randomness is quantum, and it explains the source of that randomness is the
lack of any governing deterministic equations when the mini-spacetimes that
emerge from quantum events have be aligned due to linking at
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:40 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
> Replying to Liz and Jason in a new topic as they raised the important
> topic of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic.
>
> As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There
> si
On 28 December 2013 19:45, meekerdb wrote:
> On 12/27/2013 8:52 PM, LizR wrote:
>
>> Assuming everything is quantum (as most physicists do) then clearly all
>> randomness must be.
>>
>
> But note that Bruno wants to avoid this by making first-person continuity
> uncertain.
>
> Hmm. Not *exactly.
On 12/27/2013 8:52 PM, LizR wrote:
Assuming everything is quantum (as most physicists do) then clearly all
randomness must be.
But note that Bruno wants to avoid this by making first-person continuity
uncertain.
Brent
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Replying to Liz and Jason in a new topic as they raised the important topic
of the source of randomness that deserves a separate topic.
As I explain in my book on Reality, all randomness is quantum. There simply
is no true classical level randomness. There is plenty of non-computability
which
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