Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-27 Thread Evgenii Rudnyi
On 24.10.2012 20:31 meekerdb said the following: On 10/24/2012 5:31 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: http://www.frontiersin.org/Perception_Science/10.3389/fpsyg.2012.00390/abstract Comments? Woo-woo. Small effect sizes which are *statistically* significant are indicative of bias errors. I'd

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-26 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 25 Oct 2012, at 17:55, Alberto G. Corona wrote: But I don not mean such kind of anticipation. such anticipation by gathering information and computation is a fundamental activity of living beings. OK. I refer to adivination. I suppose that a definition of adivination is the

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Oct 2012, at 19:25, Alberto G. Corona wrote: 2012/10/24 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be On 24 Oct 2012, at 14:31, Stephen P. King wrote: http://www.frontiersin.org/Perception_Science/10.3389/fpsyg.2012.00390/abstract Comments? If verified it might confirms Helmholtz intuition

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-25 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Oct 2012, at 19:31, Alberto G. Corona wrote: I dont believe that such genuine anticipation is possible, for a simple reason: If for quantum or relativistic means the mind or the brain could genuinely anticipate anything, this would be such a huge advantage, that this hability would

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-25 Thread Alberto G. Corona
But I don not mean such kind of anticipation. such anticipation by gathering information and computation is a fundamental activity of living beings. I refer to adivination. I suppose that a definition of adivination is the anticipation of something for which we have no conscious or unconscious

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-25 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/25/2012 9:25 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 24 Oct 2012, at 19:31, Alberto G. Corona wrote: I dont believe that such genuine anticipation is possible, for a simple reason: If for quantum or relativistic means the mind or the brain could genuinely anticipate anything, this would be such a

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-25 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/25/2012 11:55 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote: But I don not mean such kind of anticipation. such anticipation by gathering information and computation is a fundamental activity of living beings. I refer to adivination. I suppose that a definition of adivination is the anticipation of

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-24 Thread Richard Ruquist
At the risk of beating a dead horse, Cramer's Transactional Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics TIQM, a 4th possible interpetation of QM, requires waves coming back from the future. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_interpretation More recently he [Cramer] has also argued TIQM to be

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-24 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 24 Oct 2012, at 14:31, Stephen P. King wrote: http://www.frontiersin.org/Perception_Science/10.3389/fpsyg.2012.00390/abstract Comments? If verified it might confirms Helmholtz intuition that perception is unconscious anticipation. It would be the Dt of the Bp Dt. It is natural

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-24 Thread Alberto G. Corona
2012/10/24 Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be On 24 Oct 2012, at 14:31, Stephen P. King wrote: http://www.frontiersin.org/**Perception_Science/10.3389/** fpsyg.2012.00390/abstracthttp://www.frontiersin.org/Perception_Science/10.3389/fpsyg.2012.00390/abstract Comments? If verified it

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-24 Thread Alberto G. Corona
I dont believe that such genuine anticipation is possible, for a simple reason: If for quantum or relativistic means the mind or the brain could genuinely anticipate anything, this would be such a huge advantage, that this hability would be inherited genetically by everyone of us, every human

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-24 Thread Stephen P. King
On 10/24/2012 10:04 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: At the risk of beating a dead horse, Cramer's Transactional Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics TIQM, a 4th possible interpetation of QM, requires waves coming back from the future. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_interpretation More

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-24 Thread meekerdb
On 10/24/2012 5:31 AM, Stephen P. King wrote: http://www.frontiersin.org/Perception_Science/10.3389/fpsyg.2012.00390/abstract Comments? Woo-woo. Small effect sizes which are *statistically* significant are indicative of bias errors. I'd wager a proper Bayesian analysis of the original

Re: Predictive physiological anticipation preceding seemingly unpredictable stimuli: a meta-analysis

2012-10-24 Thread Richard Ruquist
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Stephen P. King stephe...@charter.net wrote: On 10/24/2012 10:04 AM, Richard Ruquist wrote: At the risk of beating a dead horse, Cramer's Transactional Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics TIQM, a 4th possible interpetation of QM, requires waves coming back