I dont believe that such genuine anticipation is possible, for a simple reason: If for quantum or relativistic means the mind or the brain could genuinely anticipate anything, this would be such a huge advantage, that this hability would be inherited genetically by everyone of us, every human plant, animal with the most accurate precission. because it would be so critical.
The fact is the we have no such hability. the most we can do is to simulate it with the available data, gatering as much as possible information from the behaviour, faces etc of other human beings and we process it unconsciously. Most of the time even we are not conscious of how much information we gather. 2012/10/24 Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com> > > > 2012/10/24 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> > >> >> On 24 Oct 2012, at 14:31, Stephen P. King wrote: >> >> http://www.frontiersin.org/**Perception_Science/10.3389/** >>> fpsyg.2012.00390/abstract<http://www.frontiersin.org/Perception_Science/10.3389/fpsyg.2012.00390/abstract> >>> Comments? >>> >> >> >> >> >> If verified it might confirms Helmholtz intuition that "perception" is >> "unconscious anticipation". >> >> It would be the Dt of the Bp & Dt. It is natural with the finding that >> when we "perceive objects" a big deal of information does not come from the >> data but from the brains (memories, constructions, gap fillings, ...) >> >> > > > I struggle with the psicho-slang to ascertain what they really said. > > From some comentaires: > > The title and intro leave out the fact that a likely cause -- cited by > the highest-quality study -- is the experimental methods. I am curious if > any of the experiments attempted to automate both stimulus presentation and > data analysis to avoid experimenter effects. > > - > > > > > > It may be a variation of the case of subtle perception of the experimenter > intentions by the subjects under test. > > I remember the case of a Horse that apparently know how to multiply > numbers. The horse stopped khocking on the floor when the experimenter > moved in a certain way when the number of knocks reached the correct > result. The experimenter did not realized that he was sending the signal > "enough" to the horse. > > This may be a more sophisticated case of the same phenomenon. In this case > the signal could be "be prepared because we are going to do this or that". > Neiter the experimeinte nor the subject of the experiment have to be > conscious of that signal. There are a largue number of bad psychological > experiments with these flaws. One of the last ones, the subject of these > experiment was myself with my otolaryngologist who, to test my audition > performance, advised me when I supposedly must hear a weak sound instead of > shut up and wait. > > >> Some comment in your links above seems to confirm this analysis, but I >> have not really the time to dig deeper. >> >> Bruno >> >> >> http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~**marchal/ <http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> everything-list@googlegroups.**com<everything-list@googlegroups.com> >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> everything-list+unsubscribe@**googlegroups.com<everything-list%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** >> group/everything-list?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en> >> . >> >> > > > -- > Alberto. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
