Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-05-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 30 Apr 2011, at 09:09, meekerdb wrote: On 4/29/2011 8:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 Apr 2011, at 02:42, Stephen Paul King wrote: Please allow me to ask another question. Is the notion of an “observer moment” corresponding to “the smallest possible conscious experience” related

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-05-01 Thread smitra
I think that in this discussion one is assuming that the classical picture of an OM applies and that then leads to the false notion that you need to look at a sequence of states. But this is completely false. Obviously the brain is effectively classical, but classicality from quantum dynamics

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-05-01 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 01 May 2011, at 16:08, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote: I think that in this discussion one is assuming that the classical picture of an OM applies and that then leads to the false notion that you need to look at a sequence of states. But this is completely false. Obviously the brain is

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-05-01 Thread meekerdb
On 5/1/2011 7:08 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote: I think that in this discussion one is assuming that the classical picture of an OM applies and that then leads to the false notion that you need to look at a sequence of states. But this is completely false. Obviously the brain is effectively

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-05-01 Thread Stephen Paul King
Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 12:55 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing On 01 May 2011, at 16:08, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote: I think that in this discussion one is assuming that the classical picture of an OM applies and that then leads to the false

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-05-01 Thread Stephen Paul King
From: meekerdb Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:20 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing On 5/1/2011 7:08 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl wrote: I think that in this discussion one is assuming that the classical picture of an OM applies and that then leads

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-05-01 Thread meekerdb
On 5/1/2011 3:31 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: *From:* meekerdb mailto:meeke...@verizon.net *Sent:* Sunday, May 01, 2011 2:20 PM *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing On 5/1/2011 7:08 AM, smi...@zonnet.nl

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-04-30 Thread meekerdb
On 4/29/2011 8:45 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 29 Apr 2011, at 02:42, Stephen Paul King wrote: Please allow me to ask another question. Is the notion of an “observer moment” corresponding to “the smallest possible conscious experience” related to Bruno’s concept of substitution level? ISTM

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-04-29 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 29 Apr 2011, at 02:42, Stephen Paul King wrote: Please allow me to ask another question. Is the notion of an “observer moment” corresponding to “the smallest possible conscious experience” related to Bruno’s concept of substitution level? ISTM that both act like the idea of a coarse

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-04-28 Thread Stephen Paul King
5:40 AM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing I can't help but think you are overanalysing things, but who knows. ISTM that your concerns are about an unjustified digitisation of reality. In saying recording, I'm not assuming that the recording is digital

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-04-28 Thread Russell Standish
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 05:20:24PM -0400, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Russell, But does this only make the problem worse? The quantity of information that would have to be specified in analogue recordings would be at least some power greater than the information necessary to specify the

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-04-28 Thread meekerdb
On 4/28/2011 2:20 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Russell, But does this only make the problem worse? The quantity of information that would have to be specified in analogue recordings would be at least some power greater than the information necessary to specify the finite bit digital

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-04-28 Thread Stephen Paul King
From: meekerdb Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 6:43 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing On 4/28/2011 2:20 PM, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Russell, But does this only make the problem worse? The quantity of information that would have

Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing

2011-04-28 Thread Stephen Paul King
From: Russell Standish Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 6:14 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading The Theory of Nothing On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 05:20:24PM -0400, Stephen Paul King wrote: Hi Russell, But does this only make the problem worse? The quantity