RE: connection
Id say your getting minor packet loss at a guess, meaning the connection is not being held up long enough for the mail to be delivered? I would say there are a lot of aspects to consider when diagnosing such a problem. BTW, is Kazakhstan a real place then? I thought it was a place used in Jest by Ali-G! -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2003 10:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: connection I'm having trouble receiving emails from one of our offices in Kazakhstan, and I don't have a clue where the problem lies, Can anyone give a hint? Thanks, Kim This is the error message they receive when sending mail to us, and below that is a tracert from Kazakhstan to our server: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: failure notice Hi. This is the qmail-send program at academset.kz. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 33718 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2003 05:37:34 - Received: from unknown (HELO MAGESTIC) (192.168.10.13) by 0 with SMTP; 20 Oct 2003 05:37:30 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Kamila Magzieva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Manfred Spiesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joelle Lepot [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aoife Leydon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Catherine Verschoore [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kim Schotanus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: failure notice Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:45 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary==_NextPart_000_003D_01C396FE.B83CFC90 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_003D_01C396FE.B83CFC90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit C:\tracert mail.intas.be Tracing route to mail.intas.be [213.177.134.28] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms MAGESTIC [192.168.0.1] 2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 10.10.1.1 310 ms20 ms20 ms 212.154.128.17 430 ms30 ms40 ms 212.19.148.106 5 120 ms 300 ms 180 ms car1-serial6-0-0.Frankfurt.cw.net [166.63.197.25] 6 210 ms 211 ms 210 ms bcr1.Frankfurt.cw.net [166.63.194.61] 7 120 ms 130 ms 140 ms zcr2-so-1-0-0.Frankfurtfri.cw.net [166.63.195.190] 8 190 ms 130 ms 130 ms zpr1-ge-1-3-0.Frankfurtfix.cw.net [166.63.204.86] 9 341 ms 340 ms 481 ms so-2-2-1.fra30.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.64.41] 10 451 ms 341 ms 350 ms so-1-0-0.anr10.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.81.105] 11 351 ms 340 ms 341 ms tiscali-be-2.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.69.22] 12 361 ms 721 ms 601 ms ge-11-1.sw-01.bru.net.tiscali.be [62.235.3.209] 13 521 ms 481 ms 360 ms ge-9-0-0-bfr.bru-ix.be.wanadoo.com [195.74.202.5] 14 *** Request timed out. 15 360 ms 661 ms 631 ms adsl-134-28.wanadoo.be [213.177.134.28] Trace complete. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: connection
You can ignore the DNS errors, chances are there is no PTR record for those IP's. What I am concerned with is the amount of time it takes for a reply from 212.154.128.18 and the next hop appears to have timed out completey, unless they are denying ICMP replies. 820ms alone is very high, maybe too high. -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2003 10:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: connection If I do a trceroute via samspade then I get the following: 3130.152.180.21 6.672 ms isi-1-lngw2-atm.ln.net [AS226] Los Nettos origin AS 4198.172.117.161 8.894 ms ge-9-3.a01.lsanca02.us.ra.verio.net [AS2914] Verio 5129.250.29.136 9.931 ms xe-1-0-0-4.r21.lsanca01.us.bb.verio.net [AS2914] Verio 6129.250.2.11 9.440 ms p16-7-0-0.r00.lsanca01.us.bb.verio.net [AS2914] Verio 7208.173.57.2112.043 ms bpr1-so-6-0-0.LosAngeles.cw.net 8208.172.47.136.939 ms dcr2-ae1-0.LosAngeles.cw.net 9166.63.194.61166.812 ms bcr1.Frankfurt.cw.net 10166.63.194.1 166.855 ms car1.Frankfurt.cw.net 11166.63.197.26265.337 ms ojsc-kazakhtelecom.Frankfurt.cw.net 12212.19.148.105 283.913 ms DNS error [AS9198] Kazakhtelecom Data Network Administration 13212.154.128.18 820.239 ms DNS error [AS9198] Kazakhtelecom Data Network Administration 14 * -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 29 oktober 2003 11:06 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: connection Id say your getting minor packet loss at a guess, meaning the connection is not being held up long enough for the mail to be delivered? I would say there are a lot of aspects to consider when diagnosing such a problem. BTW, is Kazakhstan a real place then? I thought it was a place used in Jest by Ali-G! -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 October 2003 10:02 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: connection I'm having trouble receiving emails from one of our offices in Kazakhstan, and I don't have a clue where the problem lies, Can anyone give a hint? Thanks, Kim This is the error message they receive when sending mail to us, and below that is a tracert from Kazakhstan to our server: - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 2:48 PM Subject: failure notice Hi. This is the qmail-send program at academset.kz. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Connected to 213.177.134.28 but connection died. (#4.4.2) I'm not going to try again; this message has been in the queue too long. --- Below this line is a copy of the message. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: (qmail 33718 invoked from network); 20 Oct 2003 05:37:34 - Received: from unknown (HELO MAGESTIC) (192.168.10.13) by 0 with SMTP; 20 Oct 2003 05:37:30 - Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Kamila Magzieva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Manfred Spiesberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Joelle Lepot [EMAIL PROTECTED], Aoife Leydon [EMAIL PROTECTED], Catherine Verschoore [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kim Schotanus [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: failure notice Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:38:45 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary==_NextPart_000_003D_01C396FE.B83CFC90 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_003D_01C396FE.B83CFC90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit C:\tracert mail.intas.be Tracing route to mail.intas.be [213.177.134.28] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms MAGESTIC [192.168.0.1] 2 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 10.10.1.1 310 ms20 ms20 ms 212.154.128.17 430 ms30 ms40 ms 212.19.148.106 5 120 ms 300 ms 180 ms car1-serial6-0-0.Frankfurt.cw.net [166.63.197.25] 6 210 ms 211 ms 210 ms bcr1.Frankfurt.cw.net [166.63.194.61] 7 120 ms 130 ms 140 ms zcr2-so-1-0-0.Frankfurtfri.cw.net [166.63.195.190] 8 190 ms 130 ms 130 ms zpr1-ge-1-3-0
RE: Repairing individual mailboxes
Well my rule would be if theres nothing wrong with the e00.log file, do not delete it, these log, in addition to being a pain in the arse play an important roll in playing back the transactions that Exchange has undertaken, you need these logs to do a proper recovery on your database. It would have been handy for me if I Had come in and they not been deleted! -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 September 2003 19:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes I guess that's the main thing they learned in their paper MCSE school - delete that dang E00.log file, those transaction logs are a pain in the ass anyway, just taking up space. Sincerely, Andrey Fyodorov Systems Engineer Messaging and Collaboration Spherion -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 2:10 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes Hmm, well the luckily, but maybe in the long run not so luckily, the policy currently employed here is most people have PST's. Now don't taunt me on that, I have submitted multiple justification proposals to have more hard disks, veritas with SIS, everyone on mailboxes with 7 day rollback enabled and Outlook 2003 with cache folders, especially for the 64k sites. Currently the policy is we have arcserve with Brick Level Backup and most people keep there data in PST files. I have used this problem that occurred at the weekend once again to push for Veritas at the very least. Again I re-itterate, this is not by my choice, I am seeing to get it all changed. Anyway, I don't know what caused the corruption, I blaimed it on Arcserve ;p When I got in late, my car wouldn't start I was late (coincidence!), others had already began work to fix the databases that wouldn't come online, they deleted the e00.log file for some strange reason (even out of the recycle bin :o) I then came in and did my best to get the server back online, I have managed to with minimal loss of data. Unfortunately, I'm the best they have here, and I'm not brilliant myself, but I am making do best with the resources available to me (anyone got any spare HDD's? ;p) Anyway, you didn't even ask me none of that, but thought id put everyone in the picture! But as for the recovery server idea, I guess it would be a good idea for me to get a spare server to use as test recovery huh? But anyway the tape backup jobs only run on weekdays, the server messed up sometime at the weekend, so it is only the weekends emails that are lost, but they obviously weren't backed up! -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 September 2003 18:54 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Repairing individual mailboxes Have you tried restoring to a recovery server with another backup to see if you can grab the mailboxes that way? What caused the initial corruption? - Original Message - From: Neil Doody [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this and the system is working relatively okay. Some mailboxes however seem to have gotten corrupted. If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook and there Inbox is empty. I look in the system manager and the email is stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox. I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails. If I delete the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly a problem with there mailbox on the server. Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ
RE: New AV Gateway Recommendations
I must recommend the Exchange agent by Symantec, you buy Norton Corporate and get the Exchange agent separate, install this, you get a nice web GUI, and viruses should never land in your users mailboxes ever again. Very customizable, you can have it mail all people involved, it can set size limits, it can be told not to allow unscanable (encrypted) items, but that is a pain in the arse if its genuine! Its good. -Original Message- From: Candee Vaglica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 October 2003 17:34 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New AV Gateway Recommendations Symantec's gateway will do *most* of that. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 11:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: New AV Gateway Recommendations I'm looking for a new AV gateway product. I'm looking for something that has the following features. Right now we use NAI Websheild SMTP gateway which does a pretty good job but is getting rather dated and it does not appear that this program will updated past its 4.5 version. The program has some nice features, but anything NAI blows, the support gets worse by the day, so I want to move on. The current setup I have is a single server that receives to WebSheild for AV scanning and keyword content filtering. Then it passes it on via port 26 to my MailFrontier for antispam scanning (both run on the same box) which then finally passes it on to the Exchange server boxen on port 25 just like usual. Here are the features I am looking for * Keyword Blocking * The ability to turn anti spam off and just use keyword blocking. * AV scanner * Ability to pass the mail on another port (such as when an AV gateway and an Antispam gateway are on the same box) * Recipient Exclusion * Sender exclusion (allow mail to pass directly from specified email addresses without scanning for content or virus's) * Originator Blocking (just dump any email that comes from specified persons) * A bonus would be that if it could do a lookup against my GAL and just dump any email for an address that does not exist * Must run on Wintel platform * Customizeable NDR's for content filtering, etc Martin Blackstone Director, Information Technologies Microsoft Exchange MVP Superior Access Insurance Services 949.470.2111 x279 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Repairing individual mailboxes
I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this and the system is working relatively okay. Some mailboxes however seem to have gotten corrupted. If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook and there Inbox is empty. I look in the system manager and the email is stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox. I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails. If I delete the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly a problem with there mailbox on the server. Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Repairing individual mailboxes
Hmm, well the luckily, but maybe in the long run not so luckily, the policy currently employed here is most people have PST's. Now don't taunt me on that, I have submitted multiple justification proposals to have more hard disks, veritas with SIS, everyone on mailboxes with 7 day rollback enabled and Outlook 2003 with cache folders, especially for the 64k sites. Currently the policy is we have arcserve with Brick Level Backup and most people keep there data in PST files. I have used this problem that occurred at the weekend once again to push for Veritas at the very least. Again I re-itterate, this is not by my choice, I am seeing to get it all changed. Anyway, I don't know what caused the corruption, I blaimed it on Arcserve ;p When I got in late, my car wouldn't start I was late (coincidence!), others had already began work to fix the databases that wouldn't come online, they deleted the e00.log file for some strange reason (even out of the recycle bin :o) I then came in and did my best to get the server back online, I have managed to with minimal loss of data. Unfortunately, I'm the best they have here, and I'm not brilliant myself, but I am making do best with the resources available to me (anyone got any spare HDD's? ;p) Anyway, you didn't even ask me none of that, but thought id put everyone in the picture! But as for the recovery server idea, I guess it would be a good idea for me to get a spare server to use as test recovery huh? But anyway the tape backup jobs only run on weekdays, the server messed up sometime at the weekend, so it is only the weekends emails that are lost, but they obviously weren't backed up! -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 September 2003 18:54 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Repairing individual mailboxes Have you tried restoring to a recovery server with another backup to see if you can grab the mailboxes that way? What caused the initial corruption? - Original Message - From: Neil Doody [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 1:42 PM Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this and the system is working relatively okay. Some mailboxes however seem to have gotten corrupted. If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook and there Inbox is empty. I look in the system manager and the email is stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox. I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails. If I delete the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly a problem with there mailbox on the server. Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Repairing individual mailboxes
Just another quick question, if you may ;p The peoples whos mailboxes are b0rke, the only way to tell they were was the fact that there were emails in the queue that couldn't be delivered, apart from that everything else checks out. Is there any other way of running an extensive test that will flag email boxes that are having difficulties and unable to have email delivered? When I repaired the database I already run integrity checks and a full offline defrag of the database, which should have essentially created a new database and copied all the defragmented data over, I'm lead to believe atleast! _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Repairing individual mailboxes
Yep. -Original Message- From: Michelle Harmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 September 2003 19:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes Did you ever run isinteg? -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this and the system is working relatively okay. Some mailboxes however seem to have gotten corrupted. If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook and there Inbox is empty. I look in the system manager and the email is stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox. I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails. If I delete the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly a problem with there mailbox on the server. Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Repairing individual mailboxes
Then again, I just ran it once more to be doubley safe, but rather than do alltests I told it just to do mailbox and it found 6 warnings in the folders. After finding there was warnings, I ran it with -fix and its ran another 6 fixes. Strange because I only did all of this last night, it must not have detected some of the problems, or maybe there was a problem during defrag? I am stumped anyway. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody Sent: 30 September 2003 19:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes Yep. -Original Message- From: Michelle Harmon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 September 2003 19:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes Did you ever run isinteg? -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 12:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Repairing individual mailboxes I had some database corruption over the weekend, ive recovered from this and the system is working relatively okay. Some mailboxes however seem to have gotten corrupted. If I send a mail to a user with a corrupt mailbox, they go into outlook and there Inbox is empty. I look in the system manager and the email is stuck in the Queue, if I look at the mailboxes view within system manager it shows there are items in the users mailbox. I tried using ExMerge and it runs but extracts no emails. If I delete the users mailbox and recreate it, they work fine, so there is defiantly a problem with there mailbox on the server. Are there any repair tools that can just attempt to repair and get any data from an individual mailbox from with an Exchange Database? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Repairing individual mailboxes
Ai, ill do that now, but I did do it last night, I ran it, did some things, then just before the defrag ran it once more and there was no errors! Then I continued to do the defrag after. Maybe I should have run it once more after the defrag huh? Ill know for next time ;p -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 September 2003 19:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes Keep running it until it finds nothing. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Repairing individual mailboxes
I do an NTBackup dump of it in addition atm, but even though most people are on PST's it is still leaving me with an unacceptable level of hdd space left, well in my view anyway. As it stands they want to keep the brick level ability to restore individual mailboxes, I think I have persuaded them to buy the exchange agent for Veritas, so we can take advantage of the SIS technology. I could use ExMerge on a schedule to start dumping peoples mailboxes, but I don't want to implement any system that I foresee the chance of running out of resources (hard disk space) so I'm just working with what they are giving me. Arcserve is working, but as we all well know, its crap and besides the fact the data probably can't be restored it causes database corruption. I need these problems anyway to use as additional justification so I can have my ideal setup :) -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 September 2003 19:18 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Repairing individual mailboxes If Arcserve is the main thing that your having trouble with, why not use NTBackup. Or does your version of Arcserve lockout sharing of tape backup devices? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Defrag errors
Does anyone know what this defrag error means? And how to fix the problem? Also, anyone have a link to some good online ESEUTIL documentation? Other than the Microsoft website, want to get a good comprehensive manual for ESEUTIL usage. Error :- Operation terminated with error -1603 (JET_errNoCurrentRecord, Currency not on a record) after 4565.109 seconds. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Defrag errors
Already tried that, try adding the 1603 into the equation and there is not listing for that error number. Ive also tried the search term Currency not on a record it lists JetPack errors, which is just a list of possible errors, with no fixes. And then it has something listed about Microsoft Access 2.0. Thanks for trying anyway. -Original Message- From: joeluser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 September 2003 11:50 To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Defrag errors Neil, Monday, September 29, 2003, 5:45:11 AM, you typed: Does anyone know what this defrag error means? And how to fix the problem? Also, anyone have a link to some good online ESEUTIL documentation? Other than the Microsoft website, want to get a good comprehensive manual for ESEUTIL usage. Error :- Operation terminated with error -1603 (JET_errNoCurrentRecord, Currency not on a record) after 4565.109 seconds. This should help get you started: http://www.google.com/search?hl=enlr=ie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8q=%22Operation+ terminated+with+error%22 --- Cheers, joeluser Using The Bat! v1.62r on Windows NT Clone 5.2 Build 3790 www.ritlabs.com/the_bat/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters
I know this isn't an outlook support list, but I thought there must be plenty of Outlook experts in an Exchange discussion list :p The problem I'm having is that if I have rules set to move mails from the inbox to other folders for some reason, this prevents the Junk Email filters from working, and I would like to use the safe lists that are built into Outlook 2003. Anyone know a way around this? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters
Well in outlook 2003, the junk rules are replaced with a built in filter facility, a separate entry from normal rules. The email is definintly Junk, but I'm wanting to use the safe lists that are now built in. With safe lists all emails are moved to Junk Email unless the sender is on your safe list. The problem is if you have any other rules set to move the emails it prevents the Junk Mail feature from working as it should. I have already turned off stop processing other rules. Thanks for the help though :) -Original Message- From: Wood, Harriet [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 September 2003 10:48 To: Exchange Discussions I would guess that the junk mail filters are using rules, and you might need to set Continue Processing Rules But then if you've already filtered them are they junk? Harriet -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 September 2003 09:51 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters I know this isn't an outlook support list, but I thought there must be plenty of Outlook experts in an Exchange discussion list :p The problem I'm having is that if I have rules set to move mails from the inbox to other folders for some reason, this prevents the Junk Email filters from working, and I would like to use the safe lists that are built into Outlook 2003. Anyone know a way around this? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters
Yah, but the problem is, even with my Junk E-mail set to High, my usual rules are over-riding the built in Junk Filters of Outlook 2003. So if I have my normal rules turned off, the Junk Mail filter works well an moves mail from the inbox into the Junk Mail folder and leaves none-junk in the Inbox. If I have my rules turned on, these take precedence and the mail is moved via the rule and the Junk is no longer sorted out. i.e. the rule moves the junk into the folder the rule has specified, preventing the built in junk filters within outlook 2003 from working. -Original Message- From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 September 2003 11:06 To: Exchange Discussions Ah, you want to use the White list capability. May I suggest instead you just set Junk E-mail to High and use your usual rules. That works exceptionally well for me; I get maybe 2-3 spam in my mailbox a day. I get more than 150 in the Junk e-mail folder that I never have to deal with. -Ben- Ben M. Schorr Director of Information Services Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert http://www.hawaiilawyer.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 00:00 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters Well in outlook 2003, the junk rules are replaced with a built in filter facility, a separate entry from normal rules. The email is definintly Junk, but I'm wanting to use the safe lists that are now built in. With safe lists all emails are moved to Junk Email unless the sender is on your safe list. The problem is if you have any other rules set to move the emails it prevents the Junk Mail feature from working as it should. I have already turned off stop processing other rules. Thanks for the help though :) -Original Message- From: Wood, Harriet [CCS] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 September 2003 10:48 To: Exchange Discussions I would guess that the junk mail filters are using rules, and you might need to set Continue Processing Rules But then if you've already filtered them are they junk? Harriet -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 September 2003 09:51 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Outlook 2003 Junk Mail Filters I know this isn't an outlook support list, but I thought there must be plenty of Outlook experts in an Exchange discussion list :p The problem I'm having is that if I have rules set to move mails from the inbox to other folders for some reason, this prevents the Junk Email filters from working, and I would like to use the safe lists that are built into Outlook 2003. Anyone know a way around this? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
ETRN - Dial Up only
Hi, ive got a server that will only be on dial up via a modem. I have set the server up to act as a Domain Controller so that is has its own copy of the active directory. I have installed Routing and Remote Access with dial on demand and static routes so that everything flows nicely. So far everything is okay, including active directory replication and mail, but only one way. Messages sent from that server get delivered to my main exchange server down here which forwards them on, but if you send an email back to a reciepient located on that server it is getting stuck in a queue. What im thinking of doing now is using the ETRN command so that the remote server connects and requests all mail for it to be delivered. I don't know much about this and was wondering if anyone could help me, or point me to some good documenation how to set this up. All the linked exchange servers are on the same domain so I need my main exchange server down here which other remote servers send there mail to, to queue the mail ready for the server on dial up to connect send the ETRN command and download all its emails. Or maybe im going about this the completely wrong way and about to get flamed for using stupid methods of mail delivery, well please, your comments are welcome and any help is greatly appreciated. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ETRN - Dial Up only
I think ive scrapped the idea, found that it started working normally after a few routes had been fixed. And to me, I may be wrong here, this is a guess on my behalf, but it looks like if you want to queue mail for ETRN delivery, the whole domain has to be queued and every remote server would have to issue ETRN commands to do the pickup, where they have sufficient connections to run real time. -Original Message- From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 14:45 To: Exchange Discussions You need do use an SMTP Connector with the main server defined as the bridgehead to enable the queueing. The remote server will also need an SMTP Connector configured to set it to send the ETRN command when it connects. The servers should be in separate routing groups as well. ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released! http://www.swinc.com/erm -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:00 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: ETRN - Dial Up only Subject: ETRN - Dial Up only Hi, ive got a server that will only be on dial up via a modem. I have set the server up to act as a Domain Controller so that is has its own copy of the active directory. I have installed Routing and Remote Access with dial on demand and static routes so that everything flows nicely. So far everything is okay, including active directory replication and mail, but only one way. Messages sent from that server get delivered to my main exchange server down here which forwards them on, but if you send an email back to a reciepient located on that server it is getting stuck in a queue. What im thinking of doing now is using the ETRN command so that the remote server connects and requests all mail for it to be delivered. I don't know much about this and was wondering if anyone could help me, or point me to some good documenation how to set this up. All the linked exchange servers are on the same domain so I need my main exchange server down here which other remote servers send there mail to, to queue the mail ready for the server on dial up to connect send the ETRN command and download all its emails. Or maybe im going about this the completely wrong way and about to get flamed for using stupid methods of mail delivery, well please, your comments are welcome and any help is greatly appreciated. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ETRN - Dial Up only
Just out of curiosity, I tried to put the server in its own group, only all the mails were coming undeliverbale even though the group was configured identically to the other sites group that I Have? How many groups can you have that feed off one master group? That should be infinite right? It should work in its own group :o -Original Message- From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 16:25 To: Exchange Discussions Well, you could set up a subdomain for the queueing if that were the case, but as long as it's working. Run with it. ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released http://www.swinc.com/erm -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:02 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: ETRN - Dial Up only Subject: RE: ETRN - Dial Up only I think ive scrapped the idea, found that it started working normally after a few routes had been fixed. And to me, I may be wrong here, this is a guess on my behalf, but it looks like if you want to queue mail for ETRN delivery, the whole domain has to be queued and every remote server would have to issue ETRN commands to do the pickup, where they have sufficient connections to run real time. -Original Message- From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 14:45 To: Exchange Discussions You need do use an SMTP Connector with the main server defined as the bridgehead to enable the queueing. The remote server will also need an SMTP Connector configured to set it to send the ETRN command when it connects. The servers should be in separate routing groups as well. ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released! http://www.swinc.com/erm -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:00 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: ETRN - Dial Up only Subject: ETRN - Dial Up only Hi, ive got a server that will only be on dial up via a modem. I have set the server up to act as a Domain Controller so that is has its own copy of the active directory. I have installed Routing and Remote Access with dial on demand and static routes so that everything flows nicely. So far everything is okay, including active directory replication and mail, but only one way. Messages sent from that server get delivered to my main exchange server down here which forwards them on, but if you send an email back to a reciepient located on that server it is getting stuck in a queue. What im thinking of doing now is using the ETRN command so that the remote server connects and requests all mail for it to be delivered. I don't know much about this and was wondering if anyone could help me, or point me to some good documenation how to set this up. All the linked exchange servers are on the same domain so I need my main exchange server down here which other remote servers send there mail to, to queue the mail ready for the server on dial up to connect send the ETRN command and download all its emails. Or maybe im going about this the completely wrong way and about to get flamed for using stupid methods of mail delivery, well please, your comments are welcome and any help is greatly appreciated. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL
RE: ETRN - Dial Up only
I set up routing group connectors from the Sites group ive made to my Main group, that works fine. I made a new group, identical to the Sites group called Hull[dial], I created routing group connectors between Main and Hull[Dial], like sites and Main. I created an SMTP conenctor in the group that said forward all email to smarthost redditchexch, like there is in the Sites group, only the hull one would never work :o -Original Message- From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 16:58 To: Exchange Discussions When you put it in its own group, did you set up a routing group connector or did you set up the SMTP Connectors and specify the routing groups to connect to? ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released http://www.swinc.com/erm -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, July 03, 2003 10:34 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: ETRN - Dial Up only Subject: RE: ETRN - Dial Up only Just out of curiosity, I tried to put the server in its own group, only all the mails were coming undeliverbale even though the group was configured identically to the other sites group that I Have? How many groups can you have that feed off one master group? That should be infinite right? It should work in its own group :o -Original Message- From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 16:25 To: Exchange Discussions Well, you could set up a subdomain for the queueing if that were the case, but as long as it's working. Run with it. ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released http://www.swinc.com/erm -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, July 03, 2003 9:02 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: ETRN - Dial Up only Subject: RE: ETRN - Dial Up only I think ive scrapped the idea, found that it started working normally after a few routes had been fixed. And to me, I may be wrong here, this is a guess on my behalf, but it looks like if you want to queue mail for ETRN delivery, the whole domain has to be queued and every remote server would have to issue ETRN commands to do the pickup, where they have sufficient connections to run real time. -Original Message- From: Webb, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 July 2003 14:45 To: Exchange Discussions You need do use an SMTP Connector with the main server defined as the bridgehead to enable the queueing. The remote server will also need an SMTP Connector configured to set it to send the ETRN command when it connects. The servers should be in separate routing groups as well. ERM (Exchange Resource Manager) Released! http://www.swinc.com/erm -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:00 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: ETRN - Dial Up only Subject: ETRN - Dial Up only Hi, ive got a server that will only be on dial up via a modem. I have set the server up to act as a Domain Controller so that is has its own copy of the active directory. I have installed Routing and Remote Access with dial on demand and static routes so that everything flows nicely. So far everything is okay, including active directory replication and mail, but only one way. Messages sent from that server get delivered to my main exchange server down here which forwards them on, but if you send an email back to a reciepient located on that server it is getting stuck in a queue. What im thinking of doing now is using the ETRN command so that the remote server connects and requests all mail for it to be delivered. I don't know much about this and was wondering if anyone could help me, or point me to some good documenation how to set this up. All the linked exchange servers are on the same domain so I need my main exchange server down here which other remote servers send there mail to, to queue the mail ready for the server on dial up to connect send the ETRN command and download all its emails. Or maybe im going about this the completely wrong way and about to get flamed for using stupid methods of mail delivery, well please, your comments are welcome and any help is greatly appreciated. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin
Outlook 11 - Win95/98
I have just got our developer to download Outlook 11 BETA 2 from our MSDN subscription. However, it doesnt install on either windows 95 or 98. Does anyone have any insider info of wether or not this will change before the final release of Outlook 11? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook 11 - Win95/98
What are you thanking me for ? -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 June 2003 15:43 To: Exchange Discussions Thanks Neil _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick level backups
I am pretty, oh so pretty, I feel pretty and witty and fine! -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2003 11:01 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Brick level backups Read http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm and for those jumping the flame wagon say Goosefraba a few times first. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: David Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:57 AM Subject: Brick level backups Hi guys, I just wanted to know why are brick level backups a bad idea. I know why pst files are. I can only imagine is that they take forever to complete, and not always all of them. Sorry if this has been discussed before but i do need some reasoning for my bosses. I know Ed hate em Thnks David CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify us by e-mail or by telephone (020 7770 7000) and then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick level backups
Anyone any links to white papers on this new single instance storage? Obviously I am now going to go check the manufacturers site of bother veritas backup-exec and this comvault galaxy, but thought either of you may have some interesting read ups. Obviously I prefer the idea of item retention and all that other jargon, only these other areas need to be explored as it may be something the powers that be prefer to have implemented, I don't know yet, though I feel I may have a task convincing them that there age old methods are crap :p -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2003 14:07 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick level backups Well, CommVault Galaxy allows to backup and restore individual mailboxes but does not use a brick-level approach. It preserves single instance storage by backing up a message once and then backing up all the message pointers that show who had the message in their mailbox. -Original Message- From: Martin Tuip [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Brick level backups Read http://mail.tekscan.com/nomailboxes.htm and for those jumping the flame wagon say Goosefraba a few times first. ** Please prefix your subject header with BETA for posts dealing with Exchange 2003 ** -- Martin Tuip MVP Exchange Exchange 2000 List owner www.exchange-mail.org www.sharepointserver.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- - Original Message - From: David Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 11:57 AM Subject: Brick level backups Hi guys, I just wanted to know why are brick level backups a bad idea. I know why pst files are. I can only imagine is that they take forever to complete, and not always all of them. Sorry if this has been discussed before but i do need some reasoning for my bosses. I know Ed hate em Thnks David CONFIDENTIAL NOTICE This communication contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient please note that any distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited. If you received this communication in error, please notify us by e-mail or by telephone (020 7770 7000) and then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Multiple domains.
Absolute madness last night. I was making the new policys which include the legacy domain names, some how EVERY single email address for EVERY single recipient in the whole organisation had there email address wiped, all that remained was the X400 addresses. What gives? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Multiple domains.
Okay, let me get this straight I think there is a problem with terminology between us, mostly on my behalf because I'm a little bit thick, but bear with me as I think I have it slightly sussed. Policy applies to = Filter Rules. i.e. in my default policy I have (mailnickname=*). Therefore what lies beneath that policy applies to everyone with a nickname that matches the criteria *, therefore everybody. So the email addresses in this policy is @interserveis.co.uk because our domain is interserveis.co.uk. As the filter rules match everyone the policy should be applied to everyone, therefore receiving an interserveis.co.uk email address. Now, the second policy that I have made, the filter rules for this are Blank, so I'm guessing that there is no match and the policy applies to nobody? Under this policy I have created the legacy domain names @kwikform.co.uk and @ukconstruction.co.uk. This is all working as I wanted it too now, when I create a new user they only receive a @interserveis.co.uk email addy and all kwikform/ukconstruction email addys we create are routing fine and none existent emails are being bounced. However, this still doesn't explain to me why every single email address from my entire organisation was deleted, I'm also scared to change anything again in case it resets them again. To get them back I simply changed the @interserveis.co.uk policy to @interserveis1.co.uk, set it back again and when it asked to update I said yes. That method has not allowed for all the none standard email addresses we had nore any of the kwikform ones that were setup. Perhaps you can comment on my methods and ensure that I am doing correctly? -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 June 2003 12:34 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Multiple domains. Because you made a policy that actually applied to EVERY single recipient that told it to do that. Any new policy you make will be assigned a higher priority than your default policy, and will overwrite it for the recipients that the query that it's based upon (General screen, Modify, Find Now) applies to. Make one recipient policy. Add all the proper addresses. Apply it to nobody. And check (general modify find now) that it applies to nobody. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:37 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Multiple domains. Subject: RE: Multiple domains. Absolute madness last night. I was making the new policys which include the legacy domain names, some how EVERY single email address for EVERY single recipient in the whole organisation had there email address wiped, all that remained was the X400 addresses. What gives? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multiple domains.
Okay, weve got more than one local domain on the exchange server, only one domain is actually used for the servers, i.e. the active directory, the other domains are just legacy internet domains with the MX record set as our exchange server. To allow delivery of emails to people in the exchange organisation you can either use recipient policies with the desired domain, or alternatively add a new connector, add the address space and tick allow relaying to these domains. We have gone for the latter option as we do not want legacy email addresses created automatically within the domain, we only want people who we manually create email addresses to receive email from the legacy domain. However, the problem is we are now getting a large mail queue for the legacy domains as the server is attempting to relay the messages to the end user but the email address does not exist within our organisation. That is people are trying to send emails, i.e. spammers to email addresses that previously existed and the server is continually trying to relay that email back to itself and were getting all sorts of delay notifications etc. What I was wondering is how I can tell the server to realise that the email address doesn't exist and bounce it away ? Or perhaps im going about this whole thing the wrong way, maybe someone can enlighten me :) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Multiple domains.
I think that technically it doesn't make the server think the domain as local it just allows relaying to that domain, so when an email is sent in the server allows for its transport, then it finds itself as the the destination and attempts delivery to itself. Or something like that. Ill try the policy thing, look into how to make it apply to nobody. -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 June 2003 16:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Multiple domains. I never thought that adding the domain names to Address Space and checking allow relaying to these domains would make Exchange think that these are local domains. I only use recipient policies to anchor domains as local. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Multiple domains. Okay, weve got more than one local domain on the exchange server, only one domain is actually used for the servers, i.e. the active directory, the other domains are just legacy internet domains with the MX record set as our exchange server. To allow delivery of emails to people in the exchange organisation you can either use recipient policies with the desired domain, or alternatively add a new connector, add the address space and tick allow relaying to these domains. We have gone for the latter option as we do not want legacy email addresses created automatically within the domain, we only want people who we manually create email addresses to receive email from the legacy domain. However, the problem is we are now getting a large mail queue for the legacy domains as the server is attempting to relay the messages to the end user but the email address does not exist within our organisation. That is people are trying to send emails, i.e. spammers to email addresses that previously existed and the server is continually trying to relay that email back to itself and were getting all sorts of delay notifications etc. What I was wondering is how I can tell the server to realise that the email address doesn't exist and bounce it away ? Or perhaps im going about this whole thing the wrong way, maybe someone can enlighten me :) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Multiple domains.
Please point me in the right direction if you could, after I have made the Policy, what says who it applies to? -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 June 2003 15:58 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Multiple domains. The recipient policy doesn't have to apply to anybody (much less everybody) - they just need to BE there. Make a recipient policy that applies to nobody that has all those domains. Get rid of the connector. Problem solved. They'll bounce properly at that point. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:11 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Multiple domains. Subject: Multiple domains. Okay, weve got more than one local domain on the exchange server, only one domain is actually used for the servers, i.e. the active directory, the other domains are just legacy internet domains with the MX record set as our exchange server. To allow delivery of emails to people in the exchange organisation you can either use recipient policies with the desired domain, or alternatively add a new connector, add the address space and tick allow relaying to these domains. We have gone for the latter option as we do not want legacy email addresses created automatically within the domain, we only want people who we manually create email addresses to receive email from the legacy domain. However, the problem is we are now getting a large mail queue for the legacy domains as the server is attempting to relay the messages to the end user but the email address does not exist within our organisation. That is people are trying to send emails, i.e. spammers to email addresses that previously existed and the server is continually trying to relay that email back to itself and were getting all sorts of delay notifications etc. What I was wondering is how I can tell the server to realise that the email address doesn't exist and bounce it away ? Or perhaps im going about this whole thing the wrong way, maybe someone can enlighten me :) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Multiple domains.
Im at a loss again here. I create the new recipient Policy, I call it something. I then proceed to enter the address space, which is @kwikform.co.uk in the Email Addresses tab. That tells exchange to accept @kwikform.co.uk emails. I don't see any other tab apart from filter users, is that what you mean? Im using exchange 2000. -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 June 2003 16:45 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Multiple domains. leave it blank. Or create a query that won't find anyone. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 11:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Multiple domains. Please point me in the right direction if you could, after I have made the Policy, what says who it applies to? -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 June 2003 15:58 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Multiple domains. The recipient policy doesn't have to apply to anybody (much less everybody) - they just need to BE there. Make a recipient policy that applies to nobody that has all those domains. Get rid of the connector. Problem solved. They'll bounce properly at that point. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:11 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Multiple domains. Subject: Multiple domains. Okay, weve got more than one local domain on the exchange server, only one domain is actually used for the servers, i.e. the active directory, the other domains are just legacy internet domains with the MX record set as our exchange server. To allow delivery of emails to people in the exchange organisation you can either use recipient policies with the desired domain, or alternatively add a new connector, add the address space and tick allow relaying to these domains. We have gone for the latter option as we do not want legacy email addresses created automatically within the domain, we only want people who we manually create email addresses to receive email from the legacy domain. However, the problem is we are now getting a large mail queue for the legacy domains as the server is attempting to relay the messages to the end user but the email address does not exist within our organisation. That is people are trying to send emails, i.e. spammers to email addresses that previously existed and the server is continually trying to relay that email back to itself and were getting all sorts of delay notifications etc. What I was wondering is how I can tell the server to realise that the email address doesn't exist and bounce it away ? Or perhaps im going about this whole thing the wrong way, maybe someone can enlighten me :) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire Exchange strategy that is in place here. The biggest bulk of that strategy includes Backups. The new idea is to go with Item Retention, this highlights the issue that most of the people round here have Personal Folders containing there email, which in turn means that there is no way they are getting backed up. The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have only a 64k ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more! Okay you can scrutinise me for having such a small link for such an amount of users, but hey im not going to pay out of my wages for a larger link ;p Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the Mail Box is out of the question, the next best thing I guess is Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect the solution, running a small test over a dial up connection you would think they were the ideal candidate for this situation. However, a colleague informs me that it completely kills the network when you have a few people synchronising folders over an 64k link. Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average Personal Folder? Are there any other issues to consider when using offline folders as apposed to personal folders? Im also informed that when you make a new folder in your mail box it is not automatically synchronised with the server? Please can you give me all your experience and all your info on working with synchronise folders within a working enterprise. No matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, I would like to know exactly what im in for if I move to this solution. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
Lol, yeah, even if it was a 256KB pipe, that's still 2048kbit, 2mb pipes up and down the country, don't think I could give a toss about offline folders ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2003 13:09 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith what is the right end of a 256MB pipe? :) -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2003 12:47 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. Keep in mind that PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message stored twice), but I think that conversion is done on the client side. I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the wrong end of a 256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other traffic. Outlook, especially the newer versions, are fairly stingy with network traffic. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire Exchange strategy that is in place here. The biggest bulk of that strategy includes Backups. The new idea is to go with Item Retention, this highlights the issue that most of the people round here have Personal Folders containing there email, which in turn means that there is no way they are getting backed up. The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have only a 64k ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more! Okay you can scrutinise me for having such a small link for such an amount of users, but hey im not going to pay out of my wages for a larger link ;p Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the Mail Box is out of the question, the next best thing I guess is Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect the solution, running a small test over a dial up connection you would think they were the ideal candidate for this situation. However, a colleague informs me that it completely kills the network when you have a few people synchronising folders over an 64k link. Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average Personal Folder? Are there any other issues to consider when using offline folders as apposed to personal folders? Im also informed that when you make a new folder in your mail box it is not automatically synchronised with the server? Please can you give me all your experience and all your info on working with synchronise folders within a working enterprise. No matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, I would like to know exactly what im in for if I move to this solution. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
God damn, don't talk to me about CAD files. Were a construction company :o Random User : Hello the system is Slow Me : Is anyone receiving any emails? Random User : No Me : Have you checked with the drawing department? And when its over a 64k ISDN line, it doesn't work to well, roll on outlook 11 by the sounds of things. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 June 2003 13:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith Tell em to quit browsing all that pron then! In a previous life, we had a few 30 user offices with a 256 link back to the main Exch Server and rarely had issues. And we were passing cad files around all day! - Original Message - From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 8:21 AM Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith Trust me. 256k isn't enough for our users. It all depends on the application, and the applications one of these offices support uses a lot of bandwidth between their clients and the servers in our production data center. Tack onto that Internet access, mail, and other internal applications, and 256k disappears quickly. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 7:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith how can a 256meg pipe be bad? - Original Message - From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 07:47 Subject: RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith Technically, I guess they use more, but I'm not 100% sure. Keep in mind that PST's store mail in 2 formats (so 1 message stored twice), but I think that conversion is done on the client side. I have a number of users using Outlook in offline mode on the wrong end of a 256MB pipe that gets shared with lots of other traffic. Outlook, especially the newer versions, are fairly stingy with network traffic. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith Recent conversations have caused me to re-think the entire Exchange strategy that is in place here. The biggest bulk of that strategy includes Backups. The new idea is to go with Item Retention, this highlights the issue that most of the people round here have Personal Folders containing there email, which in turn means that there is no way they are getting backed up. The problem im faced with is that a lot of our sites have only a 64k ISDN link which may be linking 10 people or more! Okay you can scrutinise me for having such a small link for such an amount of users, but hey im not going to pay out of my wages for a larger link ;p Anyway, this problem means that working directly from the Mail Box is out of the question, the next best thing I guess is Offline-Folders. Offline-Folders appear to be the perfect the solution, running a small test over a dial up connection you would think they were the ideal candidate for this situation. However, a colleague informs me that it completely kills the network when you have a few people synchronising folders over an 64k link. Do synchronise folders use more bandwidth than your average Personal Folder? Are there any other issues to consider when using offline folders as apposed to personal folders? Im also informed that when you make a new folder in your mail box it is not automatically synchronised with the server? Please can you give me all your experience and all your info on working with synchronise folders within a working enterprise. No matter how irrelevant you think it may seem, I would like to know exactly what im in for if I move to this solution. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe
RE: Sync Folders - Small Bandwith
Im guessing then that the main disadvantage with current Offline Folder is the fact that when emails come in you are working from the Mailbox, so you open a large email and its not held in your Offline Folders until you synchronise, that means downloading the email again. Also, what would happen if emails got deleted off the server and people synchronise? The synchronise folders will delete the missing emails from themselves? So as it stands, Offline Folders are not really a viable solution for small bandwidth sites as they leave you working from the mailboxes. By sounds of things, the best use for Offline Folders would be a 15 minute synch interval, but once you have a synch of an email are you working from the synch folder or from the Mailbox when you read them and you are Online? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backing up the M Drive
Thanks, yeah I think I already knew about the Microsoft one, im fairly sure that I have even visited once or twice in the past, maybe im getting it mixed up with micr0soft.com? Anyway, are there any others that you know? I prefer the hobbyist sites, they seem to have better read ups than the creators site, because they speak from experience, not how it should work. -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2003 15:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Yep...that's the one I was talking about. Also there's a site called... http://www.microsoft.com that has some pretty good reads about Exchange. Granted, MS documentation is not as thorough as a Linux man page, but maybe they'll come around in time. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Just out of curiosity, which FAQ do you refer to, the one in the siggy? Are there any more good websites with good read's for exchange? There was a good website which I found this list on, but I forgotten what website that was :o -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 18:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Neil, Have you even bothered to read the FAQ? All of the questions you are asking about restores/backups/retention are all in there. Jim -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ahh right, so brick level backups albeit by Veritas or Arcserve is a bad idea anyway? Shame we have spent so much on Arcserve already, I wont recommend exchange agents and Veritas Backup then! So item retention is the way to go then. Let me think, this will allow me to restore files for a duration I set when setting up this retention (I assume?). That will have deleted files covered, the next scenario would be that the server crashes, I will only be wanting to do a full restore in this case. Okay, one last scenario, we have a leaver and we delete there mailbox from the server, then someone says oh can you get it back. I guess the best policy for this is to put leavers on a 5 day standby. I think that pretty much covers all events, and could be a better and cheaper alternative. Also a reason for them to give me more hard disk space in my servers ;) -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 18:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive The only way you can restore a single mailbox, as you described, is to have Brick Level Backups turned on. Before you say, Great, please consider this. When you run BLB's you do so by opening EVERY SINGLE EMAIL BOX to back them up. Not only is this time consuming, but is a great resource hog as well, and really quite un-necessary. Instead of using BLB's to correct user-errors such as deleting their whole inbox, you should implement Item Retention, and correct user permissions on public folders. Don't allow your users to delete ANY Public Folder, this way, you won't ever have to recreate it when they do this accidentally. To achieve Item Retention, go to www.microsoft.com and do a lookup in the Knowledge Base for ITEM RETENTION. There are more then enough Q Articles there to explain how to set this up. Hth, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options. Though I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox via this method, or public folder using this backup? Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to restore using the built in backup? When I try to expand the Microsoft Exchange tab it asks me which server do I want to query. I give it one, but the box never becomes un-greyed, the exchange server is local to where I am trying to run Microsoft Backup. The option for Microsoft Exchange Server is available and I can choose the server I want, but like I said previously this does not seem to allow for selective restore/backup on a per mailbox scale. -Original Message- From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 17:48 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ouch. Don't. Everything I've read says that this will be the seventh sign that brings about Armageddon. Use NTBackup on your Exchange 2000 Server to backup to a file, then backup that file to tape using Arcserve. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland
Outlook XP Licensing
When you purchase sufficient Exchange 2000 licensing, you're entitled to install Outlook 2000 on each of the licensed clients, or so im lead to believe? :o Anyway, can you install Outlook XP on these clients without the need for any kind of Office XP license? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backing up the M Drive
Yah, ill get the boss to buy it me then :) Thanks for the pointers and the help anyway!! -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2003 15:49 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Actually, you are using E2k, so my 5.5 bookmarks are probably not going to do you a lot of good. But I can recommend Jim McBee's - Exchange 2000 24/7 book...very informative. -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive LOL... Yah...I'll go through some of my bookmarked pages today and see what I can put together for you. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 7:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Thanks, yeah I think I already knew about the Microsoft one, im fairly sure that I have even visited once or twice in the past, maybe im getting it mixed up with micr0soft.com? Anyway, are there any others that you know? I prefer the hobbyist sites, they seem to have better read ups than the creators site, because they speak from experience, not how it should work. -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2003 15:14 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Yep...that's the one I was talking about. Also there's a site called... http://www.microsoft.com that has some pretty good reads about Exchange. Granted, MS documentation is not as thorough as a Linux man page, but maybe they'll come around in time. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Just out of curiosity, which FAQ do you refer to, the one in the siggy? Are there any more good websites with good read's for exchange? There was a good website which I found this list on, but I forgotten what website that was :o -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 18:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Neil, Have you even bothered to read the FAQ? All of the questions you are asking about restores/backups/retention are all in there. Jim -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ahh right, so brick level backups albeit by Veritas or Arcserve is a bad idea anyway? Shame we have spent so much on Arcserve already, I wont recommend exchange agents and Veritas Backup then! So item retention is the way to go then. Let me think, this will allow me to restore files for a duration I set when setting up this retention (I assume?). That will have deleted files covered, the next scenario would be that the server crashes, I will only be wanting to do a full restore in this case. Okay, one last scenario, we have a leaver and we delete there mailbox from the server, then someone says oh can you get it back. I guess the best policy for this is to put leavers on a 5 day standby. I think that pretty much covers all events, and could be a better and cheaper alternative. Also a reason for them to give me more hard disk space in my servers ;) -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 18:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive The only way you can restore a single mailbox, as you described, is to have Brick Level Backups turned on. Before you say, Great, please consider this. When you run BLB's you do so by opening EVERY SINGLE EMAIL BOX to back them up. Not only is this time consuming, but is a great resource hog as well, and really quite un-necessary. Instead of using BLB's to correct user-errors such as deleting their whole inbox, you should implement Item Retention, and correct user permissions on public folders. Don't allow your users to delete ANY Public Folder, this way, you won't ever have to recreate it when they do this accidentally. To achieve Item Retention, go to www.microsoft.com and do a lookup in the Knowledge Base for ITEM RETENTION. There are more then enough Q Articles there to explain how to set this up. Hth, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options. Though I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox via this method, or public folder using this backup? Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to restore using the built in backup? When I try
RE: Backing up the M Drive
Just out of curiosity, which FAQ do you refer to, the one in the siggy? Are there any more good websites with good read's for exchange? There was a good website which I found this list on, but I forgotten what website that was :o -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 18:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Neil, Have you even bothered to read the FAQ? All of the questions you are asking about restores/backups/retention are all in there. Jim -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ahh right, so brick level backups albeit by Veritas or Arcserve is a bad idea anyway? Shame we have spent so much on Arcserve already, I wont recommend exchange agents and Veritas Backup then! So item retention is the way to go then. Let me think, this will allow me to restore files for a duration I set when setting up this retention (I assume?). That will have deleted files covered, the next scenario would be that the server crashes, I will only be wanting to do a full restore in this case. Okay, one last scenario, we have a leaver and we delete there mailbox from the server, then someone says oh can you get it back. I guess the best policy for this is to put leavers on a 5 day standby. I think that pretty much covers all events, and could be a better and cheaper alternative. Also a reason for them to give me more hard disk space in my servers ;) -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 18:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive The only way you can restore a single mailbox, as you described, is to have Brick Level Backups turned on. Before you say, Great, please consider this. When you run BLB's you do so by opening EVERY SINGLE EMAIL BOX to back them up. Not only is this time consuming, but is a great resource hog as well, and really quite un-necessary. Instead of using BLB's to correct user-errors such as deleting their whole inbox, you should implement Item Retention, and correct user permissions on public folders. Don't allow your users to delete ANY Public Folder, this way, you won't ever have to recreate it when they do this accidentally. To achieve Item Retention, go to www.microsoft.com and do a lookup in the Knowledge Base for ITEM RETENTION. There are more then enough Q Articles there to explain how to set this up. Hth, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options. Though I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox via this method, or public folder using this backup? Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to restore using the built in backup? When I try to expand the Microsoft Exchange tab it asks me which server do I want to query. I give it one, but the box never becomes un-greyed, the exchange server is local to where I am trying to run Microsoft Backup. The option for Microsoft Exchange Server is available and I can choose the server I want, but like I said previously this does not seem to allow for selective restore/backup on a per mailbox scale. -Original Message- From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 17:48 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ouch. Don't. Everything I've read says that this will be the seventh sign that brings about Armageddon. Use NTBackup on your Exchange 2000 Server to backup to a file, then backup that file to tape using Arcserve. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backing up the M Drive I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at all. Does anyone else get this feeling ? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Arcserve and restoring public folder calander
I know this is a long shot because arcserve is so crap, but I was wondering if someone may have an answer :o Basically ive been backing up with arcserve the public folders, today I have needed to restore something. I have the exchange agent which as far as I know is correctly installed, everything checks out fine anyway. I do a restore by session, because I have given a serial number to all the tapes in my pool by day, so I choose 104, which would be Thursdays backup. I go to the public folders in the exchange agent, I choose Sellafield calendar, it says that it is just over 2 meg in size, I choose to restore to original location and click run. The backup job runs but comes up with this message :- E8603 Failed to write to database. (DBNAME=Public Folders\Sellafield Calendar, EC=EXCH Exchange Agent - (402) Exchange system error.) However, the backup seems to restore one item from the calendar. Ive tried running it for alternate destinations, but it just crashes. It appears that there is 2 meg of data backed up, yet it only attempts to restore 33KB? Is there any other way of getting data off this tape? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Arcserve and restoring public folder calander
Yah, ive tried that, deleting it that is. As for the permission thing, it appears to recreate the folder fine and restore one file, not to mention the backup is being run as administrator. I guess its another one of them arcserve does it again cases ? :( Thanks for the help anyway guys! -Original Message- From: Andy Grafton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 15:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Arcserve and restoring public folder calander Neil have you tried exporting the Sellafield folder to a .pst, deleting it from the PF tree and then letting Arcserver restore the whole folder? All the best, Andy -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 2. juni 2003 16:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Arcserve and restoring public folder calander I know this is a long shot because arcserve is so crap, but I was wondering if someone may have an answer :o Basically ive been backing up with arcserve the public folders, today I have needed to restore something. I have the exchange agent which as far as I know is correctly installed, everything checks out fine anyway. I do a restore by session, because I have given a serial number to all the tapes in my pool by day, so I choose 104, which would be Thursdays backup. I go to the public folders in the exchange agent, I choose Sellafield calendar, it says that it is just over 2 meg in size, I choose to restore to original location and click run. The backup job runs but comes up with this message :- E8603 Failed to write to database. (DBNAME=Public Folders\Sellafield Calendar, EC=EXCH Exchange Agent - (402) Exchange system error.) However, the backup seems to restore one item from the calendar. Ive tried running it for alternate destinations, but it just crashes. It appears that there is 2 meg of data backed up, yet it only attempts to restore 33KB? Is there any other way of getting data off this tape? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Backing up the M Drive
I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at all. Does anyone else get this feeling ? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backing up the M Drive
Yes, ive suggested it, however the costs involved are looking rather off putting for my stingy company ;) -Original Message- From: Todd Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 16:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Lol, After my experience with arcserve you'd be better off with a different backup solution! (I switched to backup exec) Todd -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backing up the M Drive I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at all. Does anyone else get this feeling ? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backing up the M Drive
? If you have no M drive, I suggest that your Information Store is not running, and exchange probably isnt working ;) There should be an M drive, a virtual disk that is a representation of your exchange Public And Private Message store databases. Should look like this :- M: - Domain Name - MBX - CONTENT - - PUBLIC FOLDERS - CONTENT If for each server you want to backup you over-ride the Inherit Permissions property from the security settings and add Send As Receive As to say the Domain Admins group, youll be able to backup and restore using this virtual drive. Or so I think anyway :o. P.S. Did anyone actually work out where the servers inherit there permissions from? I looked up at all the hierarchy objects, but I find nothing that can be changed as a master for all the servers to inherit there security permissions from! -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 16:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive There is no M Drive -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backing up the M Drive I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at all. Does anyone else get this feeling ? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backing up the M Drive
Well the first part I already knew, as I did state that in my own email, I quote There should be an M drive, a virtual disk that is a representation of your exchange Public And Private Message store databases. But as for using it as a backup source, its not something ive actually practised, it was an idea that I came up with. Now as ive attempted to do a restore of my public folders, and nothing is being restored, im pretty sure I could have done something with the physical files ive I had backed them up as well, so to be able to restore a little something with what I have available now (arcserve) than be able to restore nothing which is what has happened, I think I will backup the virtual drive in addition to the exchange agent. -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 16:50 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive From previous list messages: There is no M: Drive The M: drive is not a physical drive. It's not on a partition exactly. It's a virtual drive created by Exchange. Pretend it doesn't exist. you don't need it. 5.2 Q: Can I back up the M: drive using NT Backup or another backup application? A: You can, but you will be sad. Do NOT back up the M: drive of an Exchange 2000 server. It can result in messages and attachments being inaccessible via the Outlook client. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive ? If you have no M drive, I suggest that your Information Store is not running, and exchange probably isnt working ;) There should be an M drive, a virtual disk that is a representation of your exchange Public And Private Message store databases. Should look like this :- M: - Domain Name - MBX - CONTENT - - PUBLIC FOLDERS - CONTENT If for each server you want to backup you over-ride the Inherit Permissions property from the security settings and add Send As Receive As to say the Domain Admins group, youll be able to backup and restore using this virtual drive. Or so I think anyway :o. P.S. Did anyone actually work out where the servers inherit there permissions from? I looked up at all the hierarchy objects, but I find nothing that can be changed as a master for all the servers to inherit there security permissions from! -Original Message- From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 16:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive There is no M Drive -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 8:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backing up the M Drive I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at all. Does anyone else get this feeling ? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backing up the M Drive
Well Rachel, Christopher, thanks for the pointers, something for me to bare in mind. I guess I shall try not to use the backups of the M drive to do restores, apart from in cases like this, which I would have been able to restore all the .EML files to my computer and dragged them into the public folder calendar through outlook. Perhaps a dodgy way, but would have worked none the less, as it stands I have angry people on my case :( -Original Message- From: Rachel Pickens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 17:07 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 258243 XADM: How to Back Up and Restore an Exchange 2000 Server Computer by Using the Windows Backup Program Note Microsoft does not recommend or support backing up drive M with file-level backup software. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backing up the M Drive
Okay, well perhaps I am mis-informed then. If I had backed up the M drive to a tape, then I selected to restore the Public Folders\Sellafield Calendar\*.EML to a folder on my PC. Then I recreated the Sellafield Calendar public folder manually, and dragged all the EML files from my PC into the Sellafield Calendar via Outlook. That would destroy all my users mailboxes? Or should I say there is a small risk of this happening? If that is the case, I don't know if it is or isn't, then I shall refrain from using it at all :o -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 17:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Only if you enjoy being the center of attention of a mob of angry users bent on causing you pain, lots and lots of pain for destroying their mailboxes. However, if you insist on this masochistic path, jab yourself in the eye with a red-hot fireplace poker and you will experience the same sort of pain, but your mailbox data will remain intact. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Backing up the M Drive Subject: Backing up the M Drive I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at all. Does anyone else get this feeling ? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backing up the M Drive
I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options. Though I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox via this method, or public folder using this backup? Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to restore using the built in backup? When I try to expand the Microsoft Exchange tab it asks me which server do I want to query. I give it one, but the box never becomes un-greyed, the exchange server is local to where I am trying to run Microsoft Backup. The option for Microsoft Exchange Server is available and I can choose the server I want, but like I said previously this does not seem to allow for selective restore/backup on a per mailbox scale. -Original Message- From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 17:48 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ouch. Don't. Everything I've read says that this will be the seventh sign that brings about Armageddon. Use NTBackup on your Exchange 2000 Server to backup to a file, then backup that file to tape using Arcserve. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backing up the M Drive I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at all. Does anyone else get this feeling ? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backing up the M Drive
Ahh right, so brick level backups albeit by Veritas or Arcserve is a bad idea anyway? Shame we have spent so much on Arcserve already, I wont recommend exchange agents and Veritas Backup then! So item retention is the way to go then. Let me think, this will allow me to restore files for a duration I set when setting up this retention (I assume?). That will have deleted files covered, the next scenario would be that the server crashes, I will only be wanting to do a full restore in this case. Okay, one last scenario, we have a leaver and we delete there mailbox from the server, then someone says oh can you get it back. I guess the best policy for this is to put leavers on a 5 day standby. I think that pretty much covers all events, and could be a better and cheaper alternative. Also a reason for them to give me more hard disk space in my servers ;) -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 18:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive The only way you can restore a single mailbox, as you described, is to have Brick Level Backups turned on. Before you say, Great, please consider this. When you run BLB's you do so by opening EVERY SINGLE EMAIL BOX to back them up. Not only is this time consuming, but is a great resource hog as well, and really quite un-necessary. Instead of using BLB's to correct user-errors such as deleting their whole inbox, you should implement Item Retention, and correct user permissions on public folders. Don't allow your users to delete ANY Public Folder, this way, you won't ever have to recreate it when they do this accidentally. To achieve Item Retention, go to www.microsoft.com and do a lookup in the Knowledge Base for ITEM RETENTION. There are more then enough Q Articles there to explain how to set this up. Hth, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options. Though I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox via this method, or public folder using this backup? Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to restore using the built in backup? When I try to expand the Microsoft Exchange tab it asks me which server do I want to query. I give it one, but the box never becomes un-greyed, the exchange server is local to where I am trying to run Microsoft Backup. The option for Microsoft Exchange Server is available and I can choose the server I want, but like I said previously this does not seem to allow for selective restore/backup on a per mailbox scale. -Original Message- From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 17:48 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ouch. Don't. Everything I've read says that this will be the seventh sign that brings about Armageddon. Use NTBackup on your Exchange 2000 Server to backup to a file, then backup that file to tape using Arcserve. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backing up the M Drive I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at all. Does anyone else get this feeling ? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Backing up the M Drive
Excuse my ignorance in this, but most of the questions have arisen from other discussions in this group, most of the backup software was implemented before I started, I assumed it worked. Until I found out otherwise today, it seemed hunky dory! My original post about the M drive being better than the Arcserve Exchange agent was a rhetorical question, and ideas stemmed from there really :) So here I am now, with different people chipping in different input, asking for best advice, an FAQ for Exchange backups has not been something I have had to consider up to yet, as the old system seemed to be working fine as it was :o I never did like Arcserve, and I was looking into better alternatives, like people have suggested Veritas, but I had no idea it was not working to an extent I have found out today :( -Original Message- From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 18:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Neil, Have you even bothered to read the FAQ? All of the questions you are asking about restores/backups/retention are all in there. Jim -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:18 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ahh right, so brick level backups albeit by Veritas or Arcserve is a bad idea anyway? Shame we have spent so much on Arcserve already, I wont recommend exchange agents and Veritas Backup then! So item retention is the way to go then. Let me think, this will allow me to restore files for a duration I set when setting up this retention (I assume?). That will have deleted files covered, the next scenario would be that the server crashes, I will only be wanting to do a full restore in this case. Okay, one last scenario, we have a leaver and we delete there mailbox from the server, then someone says oh can you get it back. I guess the best policy for this is to put leavers on a 5 day standby. I think that pretty much covers all events, and could be a better and cheaper alternative. Also a reason for them to give me more hard disk space in my servers ;) -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 18:10 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive The only way you can restore a single mailbox, as you described, is to have Brick Level Backups turned on. Before you say, Great, please consider this. When you run BLB's you do so by opening EVERY SINGLE EMAIL BOX to back them up. Not only is this time consuming, but is a great resource hog as well, and really quite un-necessary. Instead of using BLB's to correct user-errors such as deleting their whole inbox, you should implement Item Retention, and correct user permissions on public folders. Don't allow your users to delete ANY Public Folder, this way, you won't ever have to recreate it when they do this accidentally. To achieve Item Retention, go to www.microsoft.com and do a lookup in the Knowledge Base for ITEM RETENTION. There are more then enough Q Articles there to explain how to set this up. Hth, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:05 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive I was looking into the built in backup and noticed Exchange Options. Though I could not see anyway of selectively restoring only one mailbox via this method, or public folder using this backup? Is there a way of choosing which mailboxes you do and don't want to restore using the built in backup? When I try to expand the Microsoft Exchange tab it asks me which server do I want to query. I give it one, but the box never becomes un-greyed, the exchange server is local to where I am trying to run Microsoft Backup. The option for Microsoft Exchange Server is available and I can choose the server I want, but like I said previously this does not seem to allow for selective restore/backup on a per mailbox scale. -Original Message- From: Dickenson, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 June 2003 17:48 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ouch. Don't. Everything I've read says that this will be the seventh sign that brings about Armageddon. Use NTBackup on your Exchange 2000 Server to backup to a file, then backup that file to tape using Arcserve. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backing up the M Drive I honestly have come to conclusion today that my arcserve backups would be a lot better off backing up the M drive, and not using the Exchange Agent at all. Does anyone else get this feeling
RE: Backing up the M Drive
Thanks very much for all your help, to everyone that chipped in on this one. Its been a real eye opener about how things aren't really working, when they appear to be, and keeping your eye on something you assume has been taken care of by throwing money at it!! Cheers again, im going to re-think this strategy, do some testing, see if I can get a full working backup/restore solution in a test environment, then put my proposals forward to the powers that be. So you may hear more from me for a few pointers to add into my proposal ;) Original Message- From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 02/06/2003 18:50 To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive -Original Message- From: Neil Doody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon 02/06/2003 18:17 To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Subject: RE: Backing up the M Drive Ahh right, so brick level backups albeit by Veritas or Arcserve is a bad idea anyway? Shame we have spent so much on Arcserve already, I wont recommend exchange agents and Veritas Backup then! I don't use exchange agents myself. The thing to ask yourself is what _exactly_ is the problem with the current backup scenario. Is it the software - in which case would new software improve it? Or is it the method (e.g. I would count doing brick level backups as a faulty method myself) and therefore whatever software you use to discharge this backup method, you'll still have problems. So item retention is the way to go then. Let me think, this will allow me to restore files for a duration I set when setting up this retention (I assume?). That will have deleted files covered, the next scenario would be that the server crashes, I will only be wanting to do a full restore in this case. The next point I would make is forget about 'files' unless we're referring to disaster recovery of your information store itself because exchange server is a database system. I'm not merely trying to argue semantics here, I honestly believe a lot of stuff becomes clearer when you start thinking about these things in the correct way. You set retention on two things - the whole mailbox (which covers your point below within the retention point you set for the mailbox) and also on items within the mailbox such as individual mail messages, calendar entries, contacts (Which covers you for users who ring up and say I just deleted a very important message and then emptied my recycle bin, can you get it back for me? which is a good thing when its the CEO). Okay, one last scenario, we have a leaver and we delete there mailbox from the server, then someone says oh can you get it back. I guess the best policy for this is to put leavers on a 5 day standby. I would suggest the mailbox retention for this. Also, if you consider it important to archive a particular mailbox then you could consider using exmerge to extract that mailbox into a PST file which you can then burn to CD and archive for as long as you need it. I think that pretty much covers all events, and could be a better and cheaper alternative. Also a reason for them to give me more hard disk space in my servers ;) Spend less money and get a better backup? Its entirely possible with a copy of the free NTBackup and a long careful read of the disaster recovery whitepapers on the microsoft website. Oh. And please stay off the M Drive. It's called M as that is short for Mangle which is what tends to happen to your exchange system if you play with this drive. You know how sometimes people get a good idea and it looks really good on paper and doesn't cause anyone's house to burn down during the beta so they try it out on one version of a product, and discover problems, and its either gone or well hidden in the next version? Hope that helps Rob Moir, MS MVP _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Public Folder Replication Across Routing Groups
What do you mean by instance? Do you mean an available public folder store on each local server which pertains to the global public's from the context you want to replicate from? Well if so, then yes :) I fixerered this problem, I think some kind of corruption took place more than anything. I reverted back to my old config, they still didn't work. I put it back how I wanted it, obviously they were still not working. What I did then was delete the public folder store on each server that was having the problem and re-created it, after a while they were back working again, so ive done this on every server and there all fine now, they are all working as I want them with my chosen setup :) -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 May 2003 08:59 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Public Folder Replication Across Routing Groups Have you created instances on those public folder servers? Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Helping others with Exchange for over a twentieth of a century. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Neil Doody Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 12:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Hi, to combat a problem I have been having, I have recreated the configuration within Exchange, and used different routing groups for different servers to accomplish the same setup as I had previously. However, since putting the different servers in different routing groups, public folders are no longer working. The public folders work at head office where I am, but at remote sites where servers are in a different routing group, the public folders cannot be accessed and they say that they probably haven't been replicated. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Public Folder Replication Across Routing Groups
Hi, to combat a problem I have been having, I have recreated the configuration within Exchange, and used different routing groups for different servers to accomplish the same setup as I had previously. However, since putting the different servers in different routing groups, public folders are no longer working. The public folders work at head office where I am, but at remote sites where servers are in a different routing group, the public folders cannot be accessed and they say that they probably haven't been replicated. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
