RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?
Did you re-install the backup agents after installing the hotfixes to all the servers? -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of my production backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed BE 9.1 on. The exchange agent is also installed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund, Scott Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems? Scott -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the private and public info stores. It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self. I have even created a new account for it to use to login with. Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas. Thanks Miles _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =en glish To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?
Have you got an upgraded key from Veritas? I had this same problem with a new Exchange installation a couple of weeks ago. Putting the existing key for Exchange gave me the mailboxes but didn't give me the Information stores option. A quick call to Veritas customer support got me a new key and the options were available. Simon. -- Simon Butler, MCP, MCSA Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset-it.com w: www.amset.info -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ml.exchange Sent: 09 December 2003 23:33 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of my production backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed BE 9.1 on. The exchange agent is also installed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund, Scott Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems? Scott -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the private and public info stores. It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self. I have even created a new account for it to use to login with. Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas. Thanks Miles _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=en glish To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?
-Original Message- From: Holt, Miles Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:49 AM To: 'Exchange Discussions' Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Yes. In the case of the 9.1 install (no hot fixes needed), I actually migrated the two mailboxes on the server back to the 5.5 server, uninstalled Exchange 2003 and formatted the box before trying again with a new server name. I then installed Exchange 2003 on it, created a test mailbox and sent it a few messages, and then installed BE 9.1 on the new server and rebooted. Even with a clean install on the server it cannot see the stores. The reinstall attempt with BE 9.1 on the exchange server its self was my project yesterday trying to debug it. It makes no sense to me. It the exchange agent can see the mailboxes and public folders for a bricks level backup (which appears to function) it should show the stores as well. Miles -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 8:45 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Did you re-install the backup agents after installing the hotfixes to all the servers? -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:33 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of my production backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed BE 9.1 on. The exchange agent is also installed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund, Scott Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems? Scott -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the private and public info stores. It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self. I have even created a new account for it to use to login with. Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas. Thanks Miles _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =en glish To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?
I have not tried that yet as I dread waiting on hold for an hour for a tech (if you are forced to pay for support in the first place should you get to speak with a tech without being on hold that long?). I guess that may be my next step but I have no idea why I would need a new key for it other than a weird bung on their end. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Have you got an upgraded key from Veritas? I had this same problem with a new Exchange installation a couple of weeks ago. Putting the existing key for Exchange gave me the mailboxes but didn't give me the Information stores option. A quick call to Veritas customer support got me a new key and the options were available. Simon. -- Simon Butler, MCP, MCSA Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset-it.com w: www.amset.info -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ml.exchange Sent: 09 December 2003 23:33 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of my production backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed BE 9.1 on. The exchange agent is also installed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund, Scott Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems? Scott -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the private and public info stores. It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self. I have even created a new account for it to use to login with. Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas. Thanks Miles _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=en glish To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?
I didn't call Technical, I called sales to query my license, then they put me through to Customer Services. They read my license information from their computer and I was away. The reason they told me was that it was for a different version and I only could have it because I was under maintenance. I too thought it was odd that I required a different key, but that was what I was told. Simon. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ml.exchange Sent: 10 December 2003 14:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? I have not tried that yet as I dread waiting on hold for an hour for a tech (if you are forced to pay for support in the first place should you get to speak with a tech without being on hold that long?). I guess that may be my next step but I have no idea why I would need a new key for it other than a weird bung on their end. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Butler Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 9:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Have you got an upgraded key from Veritas? I had this same problem with a new Exchange installation a couple of weeks ago. Putting the existing key for Exchange gave me the mailboxes but didn't give me the Information stores option. A quick call to Veritas customer support got me a new key and the options were available. Simon. -- Simon Butler, MCP, MCSA Amset IT Solutions Ltd. e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w: www.amset-it.com w: www.amset.info -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ml.exchange Sent: 09 December 2003 23:33 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of my production backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed BE 9.1 on. The exchange agent is also installed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund, Scott Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems? Scott -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the private and public info stores. It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self. I have even created a new account for it to use to login with. Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas. Thanks Miles _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=en glish To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange
RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?
Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems? Scott -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the private and public info stores. It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self. I have even created a new account for it to use to login with. Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas. Thanks Miles _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=en glish To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores?
Yes, Exchange Admin and System Manager from Exchange 2003 are on both of my production backup servers AND on the Exchange 2003 server I installed BE 9.1 on. The exchange agent is also installed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akerlund, Scott Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 6:25 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? Did you install the Exchange Admin with the same SP on the backup systems? Scott -Original Message- From: ml.exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 3:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Exec 9.0 and 9.1 does not see Exchange 2003 Stores? We are currently running a Ex 5.5 mixed mode environment with our First Exchange 2003 server deployed for testing with our IT department. For the life of me I can not get Backup Exec 9.0 4454 (with E2k3 hot fix) or 9.1 to see and backup the private and public info stores. It WILL see and backup the mailboxes and public folders just fine in bricks mode (not that I want to). It gives me no errors, but just does not show the IS as an available item to backup. I have tried this with two different backup servers, and by installing BE 9.1 on to the new Exchange server by its self. I have even created a new account for it to use to login with. Has anyone seen this behavior before? I'd like to rule out something stupid if I can before I spend an hour on hold with Veritas. Thanks Miles _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=en glish To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Eric, i get an error msg when following this link The download you requested is unavailable. If you continue to see this message when trying to access this download, you might try the Search for a Download area on the Download Center home page --- Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the link to download the DR whitepaper from Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=df586628-3abe-40c3- 8e8f-beb4122de3d7displaylang=en Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Hank Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking about. I will stop asking questions about DR methods. Eric Fretz Could you post the URL? I'm always interested in finding better ways to provide disaster recovery. By the way, we do a full NTBACKUP every night to hard drive. We then do a tape backup every night (full on Fridays and incremental other night) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
The link is wrapped From: Jees [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:21:38 -0800 (PST) Eric, i get an error msg when following this link The download you requested is unavailable. If you continue to see this message when trying to access this download, you might try the Search for a Download area on the Download Center home page --- Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the link to download the DR whitepaper from Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=df586628-3abe-40c3- 8e8f-beb4122de3d7displaylang=en Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Hank Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking about. I will stop asking questions about DR methods. Eric Fretz Could you post the URL? I'm always interested in finding better ways to provide disaster recovery. By the way, we do a full NTBACKUP every night to hard drive. We then do a tape backup every night (full on Fridays and incremental other night) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Shop online for kidsÂ’ toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
i copied the entire address (both lines) and pasted on the ie address. Cheers --- Tony Hlabse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The link is wrapped From: Jees [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2003 17:21:38 -0800 (PST) Eric, i get an error msg when following this link The download you requested is unavailable. If you continue to see this message when trying to access this download, you might try the Search for a Download area on the Download Center home page --- Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's the link to download the DR whitepaper from Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=df586628-3abe-40c3- 8e8f-beb4122de3d7displaylang=en Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Hank Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking about. I will stop asking questions about DR methods. Eric Fretz Could you post the URL? I'm always interested in finding better ways to provide disaster recovery. By the way, we do a full NTBACKUP every night to hard drive. We then do a tape backup every night (full on Fridays and incremental other night) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Shop online for kidsÂ’ toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking about. I will stop asking questions about DR methods. Eric Fretz Could you post the URL? I'm always interested in finding better ways to provide disaster recovery. By the way, we do a full NTBACKUP every night to hard drive. We then do a tape backup every night (full on Fridays and incremental other night) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
This is our plan as well. Fulls every day plus the transaction logs has worked well for us. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -Original Message- From: David, Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Full plus replaying the trans logs will restore you to the point of failure. -Original Message- From: HOLLIDAY, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter restore point window (restore to the hour instead of to the day)? Eric Holliday - PST's? We don't need no stinkin' PST's!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Why bother? The only value I would see in that would be if you were backing up off-site. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupResto re.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Backup rituals
Go check out -- http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.a sp If you haven't already seen it, go check out Ed's Exchange Administration guide at: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm (That's just the disaster recovery page. The whole guide is priceless.) Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Hank Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking about. I will stop asking questions about DR methods. Eric Fretz Could you post the URL? I'm always interested in finding better ways to provide disaster recovery. By the way, we do a full NTBACKUP every night to hard drive. We then do a tape backup every night (full on Fridays and incremental other night) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Here's the link to download the DR whitepaper from Microsoft http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=df586628-3abe-40c3- 8e8f-beb4122de3d7displaylang=en Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Hank Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking about. I will stop asking questions about DR methods. Eric Fretz Could you post the URL? I'm always interested in finding better ways to provide disaster recovery. By the way, we do a full NTBACKUP every night to hard drive. We then do a tape backup every night (full on Fridays and incremental other night) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
I could change my spark plugs weekly, but I don't. What kind of failure would take out both the store and the logs? An extremely rare and weird event. There's nothing wrong with what you're doing, my point is just that you're not getting much extra protection. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Hutchings Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:30 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I do mostly cause i can, my strategy purely from a how quick can i get this working if it breaks p.o.v is to do a full backup nightly using ntbackup to dump to a file on a removable SCSI drive wihch then gets dumped to tape. I also do an incremental to get the logs at lunchtime, the store and logs are on separate physical raid volumes so i figure that covers most scenarios without being over the top.. regards, Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 22:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/B ackupRestore.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter restore point window (restore to the hour instead of to the day)? Eric Holliday - PST's? We don't need no stinkin' PST's!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Why bother? The only value I would see in that would be if you were backing up off-site. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupResto re.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Full plus replaying the trans logs will restore you to the point of failure. -Original Message- From: HOLLIDAY, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter restore point window (restore to the hour instead of to the day)? Eric Holliday - PST's? We don't need no stinkin' PST's!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Why bother? The only value I would see in that would be if you were backing up off-site. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupResto re.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup rituals
That's what transaction logs are for. If you lost the edb, you can still recover to the latest mail with the logs. if you lose the logs, you have the current copy of the priv. - Original Message - From: HOLLIDAY, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM Subject: RE: Backup rituals Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter restore point window (restore to the hour instead of to the day)? Eric Holliday - PST's? We don't need no stinkin' PST's!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Why bother? The only value I would see in that would be if you were backing up off-site. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupResto re.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
With a full all you need is one tape and the transaction logs and you will be able to restore to the point of failure. It doesn't get any closer or easier than that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HOLLIDAY, Eric Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter restore point window (restore to the hour instead of to the day)? Eric Holliday - PST's? We don't need no stinkin' PST's!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Why bother? The only value I would see in that would be if you were backing up off-site. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupResto re.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Not really, just restore the previous full and replay the logs. You should have the store on one redundant array, and your logs on another. This should protect you from both drive and array failures. Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: HOLLIDAY, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter restore point window (restore to the hour instead of to the day)? Eric Holliday - PST's? We don't need no stinkin' PST's!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Why bother? The only value I would see in that would be if you were backing up off-site. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupResto re.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
I do mostly cause i can, my strategy purely from a how quick can i get this working if it breaks p.o.v is to do a full backup nightly using ntbackup to dump to a file on a removable SCSI drive wihch then gets dumped to tape. I also do an incremental to get the logs at lunchtime, the store and logs are on separate physical raid volumes so i figure that covers most scenarios without being over the top.. regards, Paul -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 22:35 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/B ackupRestore.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
I think what he meant by to the hour was not to the point of failure but to any time within any day of the week. I have seen a number of backup programs (Legato for example) where you can pick a day and time to which you want to restore. If you were doing full+incremental or full+differential --- it just restores full and then only enough transaction logs to get to the required point in time. -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals With a full all you need is one tape and the transaction logs and you will be able to restore to the point of failure. It doesn't get any closer or easier than that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of HOLLIDAY, Eric Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 11:47 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Wouldn't doing a diff/incremental + weekly full give you a tighter restore point window (restore to the hour instead of to the day)? Eric Holliday - PST's? We don't need no stinkin' PST's!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley [MVP] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Why bother? The only value I would see in that would be if you were backing up off-site. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupResto re.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto
RE: Backup rituals
Read the whitepaper I referred you to yesterday. Then read it again. Read it a third time. That should be your bible and spouse for the next few weeks. Seriously. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
If you have the space and time, do a full every night. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Keep in mind that full and incremental Exchange aware backup software will delete trans logs. Diffs do not. And re-read the disaster recovery papers for backup scenarios that fit your site From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:27:09 -0600 What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
I always do full. Far quicker restore procedure if necessary. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 15:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
How can you waste tape space? Isn't that what you bought them for? The waste is in not using the space. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Fulls are always preferred. Additionally, online backups perform checksum validity checks of the database. You should test your backups frequently on your DR server as well. How do you know you are getting a good backup otherwise? -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
I do a full backup nightly. I do a flat file backup using the Dantz Exchange utility. And then I also use a routine with a firewire drive that grabs the flat file as well as my sql backups and most of my relevant files that have changed every 4 hours. The tapes are rotated daily as well as the firewire drives. Oh and did I mention mirrored boot drives with a raid 5 for my exchange data? John Parker, MCSE IS Admin. Senior Technical Specialist Alpha Display Systems. Alpha Video 7711 Computer Ave. Edina, MN. 55435 952-896-9898 Local 800-388-0008 Watts 952-896-9899 Fax 612-804-8769 Cell 952-841-3327 Direct [EMAIL PROTECTED] Be excellent to each other ---End of Line--- -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Move towards the light, Carol Anne. Read the whitepaper, Carol Anne. All is explained in the whitepaper, Carol Anne. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang= english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I finally found the Disaster Recovery Whitepaper Erik was talking about. I will stop asking questions about DR methods. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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That's it! My bad. ::turns in MVP card:: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
I had a few bad experiences with incremental restores, like one of the transaction logs did not get restored correctly and caused the whole transaction log replay impossible, threw everyone a week back in time (the last full backup) I'd rather spend extra time and tape space on a full backup every night than face angry users and have to tell them to kiss their last week worth of mail goodbye. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english
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Full backups daily. Anything else is a PITA to restore. If you don't have the tape (or the time) to do this, a full on a weekly basis and a daily incremental is the least sucky alternative. Missy - Original Message - From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Re: Backup rituals
Full backups daily. Anything else is a PITA to restore. If you don't have the tape (or the time) to do this, a full on a weekly basis and a daily differential is the least sucky alternative. Make sure you have the disk space available to support a week's worth of transaction log files. Missy - Original Message - From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Backup rituals
Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get holiday tips for festive fun. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx
RE: Backup rituals
Real men drink Mad Dog 20/20. _ John Bowles Exchange Engineer OIG/HHS [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http
RE: Backup rituals
Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Backup rituals
It makes you Happy!! -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface
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Agreed. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals That's it! My bad. ::turns in MVP card:: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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whiskey. -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web
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I'll have an Anchor Porter and a Jameson's on the rocks and get the lady whatever she wants. Jim -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals whiskey. -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl
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At this point, the name of this discussion thread should be changed from Backup rituals to Back up, fell over in a drunken stupor and disgusting kareoke rituals. --E Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'll have an Anchor Porter and a Jameson's on the rocks and get the lady whatever she wants. Jim -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals whiskey. -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510
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I would take it kindly if all would refrain from using the T word in my presence. Makes my head hurt just hearing it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Dixon Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Backup rituals
But then they get in the original bad mood referenced in the December 03, 2003 9:43 AM e-mail below G. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Dixon Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
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Other than my three year old daughter saying the word tit#y to her teacher, that was the best laugh of the day! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:16 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals At this point, the name of this discussion thread should be changed from Backup rituals to Back up, fell over in a drunken stupor and disgusting kareoke rituals. --E Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'll have an Anchor Porter and a Jameson's on the rocks and get the lady whatever she wants. Jim -Original Message- From: Scott Weston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 12:07 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals whiskey. -Original Message- From: Mike Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Tequila! -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 December 2003 16:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Real men drink Stout! Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Oh yeah...I forgot to add that we do a full backup with Backup Exec each night. Also, beer is good for youG. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Totally valid question -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dickenson, Steven Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 8:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Agreed. Particularly seeing as how I did weekly full, daily incremental, and am now switching Backup Exec to daily full as I write this! Tony, might I suggest a nap. ;) Steven --- Steven Dickenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator The Key School, Annapolis Maryland -Original Message- From: Arch Willingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 11:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I thought it was a good question. Arch -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I'm not asking how to administer my infrastructure. I've got my ways of doing things and I'm asking my peers if they have better ideas. If I started asking you guys how to add user accounts or What is SMTP, then yes, I deserve to be pimp-slapped. Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals If you have a issue that is one thing. But to ask us how to administer your infrastructure is another. If your new to Exchange then take some training courses first. Many of your questions as of late are basic. From: Eric Fretz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Backup rituals Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2003 09:36:47 -0600 I'm using DLT 80/160 drives and tapes, so I've got the Tape space. I thought that daily full backups would just be a waste of tape space and time, but maybe not. Is your reason for doing full daily backups for quick recovery (e.g. reover from a single tape)??? Thanks, Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 9:35 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals I prefer full backup every day. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week
RE: Backup rituals
Backup Exec, Full backups daily. Mask, rattle.. Opps, that in case I have to use the backup tapes. John Matteson Geac Corporate ISS (404) 239 - 2981 Atlanta, Georgia, USA. -Original Message- From: Eric Fretz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:27 AM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List Conversation: Backup rituals Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Nope. Too much work. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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More importantly, incremental and differential Exchange backups are just backups of the log files. When you restore the full followed by a differential or multiple incrementals, you're restoring lots of log files. In addition to the time to restore, you then have to tack on the extra time to replay all those logs before Exchange will come up, and replaying logs takes a long time. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz L-3 Communications ComCept Division 2800 Discovery Blvd. Rockwall, TX 75032 tel: 972.772.7501 fax: 972.772.7510 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup rituals
Why bother? The only value I would see in that would be if you were backing up off-site. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 2:35 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Those of you that do a daily full backup are you doing a diff or incremental during the day? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David, Andy Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:41 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals Incrementals flush the logs. Differentials do not. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup rituals While most any other system is quite happy with incremental backups, Exchange is one of those that you want to do full backups on always. The reason being is that incremental do not commit and flush the transaction logs. Only a full backup will do that. In addition, you will want to familiarize yourself with this: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BackupRestore.a sp Unless you use a different version of Exchange in which case you will what to find the appropriate DR whitepaper. You should setup a DR server to test these processes on. By server I mean any spare PC that has enough disk space. Just to learn it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Fretz Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 7:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup rituals What backup rituals do you guys use on your Exchange sites? I've looked through the FAQs and read most of the relevant Microsoft Qxxx articles on Exchange administration, but I haven't found the way to do good backups. My first blush is to backup the entire databases + logs once a week and then backup the incremental changes to the logs daily. All suggestions, snide remarks and pithy one-liners are welcome... Thanks, Eric Eric Fretz The information contained in this message is confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error or there are any problems please notify the originator immediately. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. Badger Meter, Inc. will not be liable for direct, special, indirect or consequential damages arising from alteration of the contents of this message by a third party or as a result of any virus being passed on. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
We use Netbackup, thankfully it's not my responsibility, so the backup team do BLB's for their sins to our masters. Cheers Paul Standards are like toothbrushes, everyone wants one but not yours -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 August 2003 20:36 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The information contained in this message or any of its attachments may be confidential and is intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s). Any disclosure, reproduction, distribution or other dissemination or use of this communication is strictly prohibited without the express permission of the sender. The views expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily those of Sony or Sony affiliated companies. Sony email is for business use only. This email and any response may be monitored by Sony United Kingdom Limited. (05) ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
well yours is definitely bigger then mine -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
We use Tivoli with the Exchange bolt-on. I don't know if it can do brick level but I know we don't. As it is we have several terabytes of Exchange backups - I dread to think what we'd have to do if we wanted brick level too. -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 August 2003 20:36 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks The information contained in this e-mail is intended for the recipient or entity to whom it is addressed. It may contain confidential information that is exempt from disclosure by law and if you are not the intended recipient, you must not copy, distribute or take any act in reliance on it. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete from your system. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
dont do the BLB... IMHO If I needed this Id use exmerge and write the script to do it that way 2 cents bill PS see the FAQ on BLB -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
Paul: Your problem with speed may be that you are doing BLB (Brick Level Backup) and not just a DB backup of the Exchange DB. If you want to speed things up by a hundred fold (guesstimation), stop doing BLB, implement the Recover Deleted Items features; find the necessary information in the FAQ. Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA WAN/Internet Specialist 913-339-6700 x194 Get a Life! Get TWO! Play Second Life! http://secondlife.com/ss/?u=b4ebbfdd6af98a027fa7e89a86c55a68 -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:17 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We have a 40GB store on a XIOTECH SAN useing BE 9.0 with the Exchange Agent and backing up with a ADIC Scalar 100 LTO. ADIC says a gig a minute is normal -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Wow, how are you doing the gig a minute? I have a 160GB backup and it takes almost 24 hours on Veritas 8.6. It really slows down when it hits the mailboxes though. Do you have the drive mounted directly to the exchange server? Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent. Raj -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
A fast one. - Original Message - From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 What kind of tape drive do you have? -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
But does it make a beeping noise when it backs up? OSHA regs, you know. -- be - MOS L: The average regulation has a life span one-fifth as long as a chimpanzee's and one-tenth as long as a human's -- but four times as long as the official's who created it. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:13 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 A fast one. - Original Message - From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 What kind of tape drive do you have? -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
Using a SCSI connected Dell SDLT library backing up the local store I get about 900 Mb/min - before I got the right SCSI device driver for W2K it was dog slow at 150Mb/min. The backup software, the infamous Arcserve ;-) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
I would go with BackupExec 9 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
I can do some large number with it but only really in to file mode -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:18 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I am not doing BLB. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 You're not going to get a gig a minute on BLB's regardless of the HW. -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent. Raj -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
Veritas Backup Exec -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
Oh yea, you will need to buy the Exchange agent as well. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I would go with BackupExec 9 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
Some observations: I now get 550Mb/min using BackupExec 8.6 against Exchange 2K (store backup, not BLB) - perhaps the limiting factor is the 100MBit net card. The Exchange server has 16Gb of stores on a PIII 600 with 768Mb RAM and Raid 1 data disks. The backup server is a PIII 450. When we were using single-drive DLT, I was lucky to get 200Mb/min, even with decent drivers. We changed to using removeable disks as backup media (basically using disks as tapes) and the speeds shot up although the rest of the setup remained the same. All the best, Andy -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 6. august 2003 22:34 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Wow, how are you doing the gig a minute? I have a 160GB backup and it takes almost 24 hours on Veritas 8.6. It really slows down when it hits the mailboxes though. Do you have the drive mounted directly to the exchange server? Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent. Raj -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly
Re: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
If you're going to waste taxpayer money doing BLBs, might as well do it right... Use CommVault. From: Bridges, Samantha [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:36:08 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
Wow, how are you doing the gig a minute? I have a 160GB backup and it takes almost 24 hours on Veritas 8.6. It really slows down when it hits the mailboxes though. Do you have the drive mounted directly to the exchange server? Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent. Raj -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
We have a 40GB store on a XIOTECH SAN useing BE 9.0 with the Exchange Agent and backing up with a ADIC Scalar 100 LTO. ADIC says a gig a minute is normal -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Wow, how are you doing the gig a minute? I have a 160GB backup and it takes almost 24 hours on Veritas 8.6. It really slows down when it hits the mailboxes though. Do you have the drive mounted directly to the exchange server? Thanks, Paul -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent. Raj -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
I didn't think the backup API in Exchange was capable of that speed, regardless of hardware. Jason -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 You're not going to get a gig a minute on BLB's regardless of the HW. -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent. Raj -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode= lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** ** ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent. Raj -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
You're not going to get a gig a minute on BLB's regardless of the HW. -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent. Raj -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
I am not doing BLB. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:15 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 You're not going to get a gig a minute on BLB's regardless of the HW. -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent. Raj -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
What kind of tape drive do you have? -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000
I also get way more then a Gig a minute when I backup using a custom script pointing to Dev0, restores are a bit of a problem though Sander -Original Message- From: Pillai, Raj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 August 2003 10:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 A Gig a minute, really? Using Backup exec 8.6? Are you using a remote agent or is it a local backup ?(backup device connected to your exchange server). I have a 35GB backup and verification process which takes approximately 3 hours using BE 8.6 with remote agent. Raj -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 I can backup at well over a gig a minute, not sure what you are using. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:52 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Yeah have to agree...Veritas 8.6 works great. Just make sure your IS is not that big or you'll be in for a long backup process Paul -Original Message- From: Thakkar, Nick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 We use Verits Backup Exec 8.6 works wellhave restored Information Stores...does brick level also. Nick Thakkar Network Administrator American Medical Response [EMAIL PROTECTED] 209-993-6974 -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:36 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Software for Exchange 2000 Hello All. What kind of backup software do you use for Exchange 2000? Need to do brick levels too. I know...management wants the brick levelstried talking them out of it. Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This e-mail message, including any attachments, contains information that is confidential, may be protected by the attorney/client or other applicable privileges, and may constitute non-public information. This message is intended to be conveyed only to the designated recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient of this message, do not read it; please immediately notify the sender that you have received this message in error and delete this message.Unauthorized use, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, reproduction of this message or the information contained in this message or the taking of any action in reliance on it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. ** _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup Exchange Server
Dumb Question: In NTBACKUP, next to the selection checkbox for Exchange, does it say Microsoft Exchangewith the little envelope or Microsoft Exchange Server with the gear thingy? - Original Message - From: Jeffrey G. Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Backup Exchange Server All, I am in the process of bringing up another Exchange server for a remote site. I have E2k SP3 installed on W2k SP3. When I try to set up the backup through NTBackup. The Exchange option is grayed out. I double click it and I get a message box to connect to a remote server. I cannot connect to the local server. In the event log I am getting an 8012 error from source NTBackup. The 'ESE API' returned 'Callback ' from a call to 'HrESEBackupRestoreNodes()' additional data 'HUFNA-EX1' I Have checked Q255530, Q258529, Q253299, and Q306342. These all seem to deal with either the system manager not installed or the Information store is not mounted. Both are working normally. I can backup this server from my other exchange server with out a problem. Once I put this server into production I will not be able to do it that way because we only have a 96 kbps pipe and about 8.4 gigs of data that need to go on that server. It would take 25.5 hours to do the backup, which is not an option. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jeffrey Witt System Administrator Huf North America Work: (414) 365-8146 Mobile: (262) 227-1719 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Exchange Server
Microsoft exchange with the little envelope. The Exchange Server wih the little gear thingy is not there at all. It is on the other Exchange servers though. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup Exchange Server Dumb Question: In NTBACKUP, next to the selection checkbox for Exchange, does it say Microsoft Exchangewith the little envelope or Microsoft Exchange Server with the gear thingy? - Original Message - From: Jeffrey G. Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Backup Exchange Server All, I am in the process of bringing up another Exchange server for a remote site. I have E2k SP3 installed on W2k SP3. When I try to set up the backup through NTBackup. The Exchange option is grayed out. I double click it and I get a message box to connect to a remote server. I cannot connect to the local server. In the event log I am getting an 8012 error from source NTBackup. The 'ESE API' returned 'Callback ' from a call to 'HrESEBackupRestoreNodes()' additional data 'HUFNA-EX1' I Have checked Q255530, Q258529, Q253299, and Q306342. These all seem to deal with either the system manager not installed or the Information store is not mounted. Both are working normally. I can backup this server from my other exchange server with out a problem. Once I put this server into production I will not be able to do it that way because we only have a 96 kbps pipe and about 8.4 gigs of data that need to go on that server. It would take 25.5 hours to do the backup, which is not an option. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jeffrey Witt System Administrator Huf North America Work: (414) 365-8146 Mobile: (262) 227-1719 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Backup Exchange Server
Your Exch services arent started then or they are hung etc.. I would double check to see that they are indeed started and perhaps a reboot is in order. - Original Message - From: Jeffrey G. Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: RE: Backup Exchange Server Microsoft exchange with the little envelope. The Exchange Server wih the little gear thingy is not there at all. It is on the other Exchange servers though. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup Exchange Server Dumb Question: In NTBACKUP, next to the selection checkbox for Exchange, does it say Microsoft Exchangewith the little envelope or Microsoft Exchange Server with the gear thingy? - Original Message - From: Jeffrey G. Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Backup Exchange Server All, I am in the process of bringing up another Exchange server for a remote site. I have E2k SP3 installed on W2k SP3. When I try to set up the backup through NTBackup. The Exchange option is grayed out. I double click it and I get a message box to connect to a remote server. I cannot connect to the local server. In the event log I am getting an 8012 error from source NTBackup. The 'ESE API' returned 'Callback ' from a call to 'HrESEBackupRestoreNodes()' additional data 'HUFNA-EX1' I Have checked Q255530, Q258529, Q253299, and Q306342. These all seem to deal with either the system manager not installed or the Information store is not mounted. Both are working normally. I can backup this server from my other exchange server with out a problem. Once I put this server into production I will not be able to do it that way because we only have a 96 kbps pipe and about 8.4 gigs of data that need to go on that server. It would take 25.5 hours to do the backup, which is not an option. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jeffrey Witt System Administrator Huf North America Work: (414) 365-8146 Mobile: (262) 227-1719 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Exchange Server
Well, there is your problem. The Globe with the Envelope is to back up Exchange 5.5 servers, not 2000. The gear thingy is for 2000 servers. Are you running NTBackup from the new Exchange server? It still sounds like you got an installation problem. What service packs are you running on this computer? Did you apply the Windows 2000 service pack AFTER the Exchange service pack? You might try re-applying Exchange 2000 SP3 and see if that helps. - Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 Original Message- From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:38 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Backup Exchange Server Subject: RE: Backup Exchange Server Microsoft exchange with the little envelope. The Exchange Server wih the little gear thingy is not there at all. It is on the other Exchange servers though. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup Exchange Server Dumb Question: In NTBACKUP, next to the selection checkbox for Exchange, does it say Microsoft Exchangewith the little envelope or Microsoft Exchange Server with the gear thingy? - Original Message - From: Jeffrey G. Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Backup Exchange Server All, I am in the process of bringing up another Exchange server for a remote site. I have E2k SP3 installed on W2k SP3. When I try to set up the backup through NTBackup. The Exchange option is grayed out. I double click it and I get a message box to connect to a remote server. I cannot connect to the local server. In the event log I am getting an 8012 error from source NTBackup. The 'ESE API' returned 'Callback ' from a call to 'HrESEBackupRestoreNodes()' additional data 'HUFNA-EX1' I Have checked Q255530, Q258529, Q253299, and Q306342. These all seem to deal with either the system manager not installed or the Information store is not mounted. Both are working normally. I can backup this server from my other exchange server with out a problem. Once I put this server into production I will not be able to do it that way because we only have a 96 kbps pipe and about 8.4 gigs of data that need to go on that server. It would take 25.5 hours to do the backup, which is not an option. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jeffrey Witt System Administrator Huf North America Work: (414) 365-8146 Mobile: (262) 227-1719 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Exchange Server
Here are the services for exchange and status. NameStatus Microsoft Exchange EventNothing set to manual Microsoft Exchange IMAP4Started Microsoft Exchange Information StoreStarted Microsoft Exchange Management Started Microsoft Exchange MTA Stacks Started Microsoft Exchange POP3 Started Microsoft Exchange Routing Engine Started Microsoft Exchange Site Replication Service Nothing Set to Disabled Microsoft Exchange System Attendant Started I have also done a reboot on the machine. I don't think this should make a difference BUT. When I was building the server after I had everything set up one time. 2 of the disks crashed so I had to do a completely new rebuild on a different computer. Since I could not uninstall exchange to remove it from AD, I had to manually delete the server from my exchange org. I used LDP.exe and followed Q278918. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup Exchange Server Your Exch services arent started then or they are hung etc.. I would double check to see that they are indeed started and perhaps a reboot is in order. - Original Message - From: Jeffrey G. Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:37 AM Subject: RE: Backup Exchange Server Microsoft exchange with the little envelope. The Exchange Server wih the little gear thingy is not there at all. It is on the other Exchange servers though. -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 10:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Backup Exchange Server Dumb Question: In NTBACKUP, next to the selection checkbox for Exchange, does it say Microsoft Exchangewith the little envelope or Microsoft Exchange Server with the gear thingy? - Original Message - From: Jeffrey G. Witt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:05 AM Subject: Backup Exchange Server All, I am in the process of bringing up another Exchange server for a remote site. I have E2k SP3 installed on W2k SP3. When I try to set up the backup through NTBackup. The Exchange option is grayed out. I double click it and I get a message box to connect to a remote server. I cannot connect to the local server. In the event log I am getting an 8012 error from source NTBackup. The 'ESE API' returned 'Callback ' from a call to 'HrESEBackupRestoreNodes()' additional data 'HUFNA-EX1' I Have checked Q255530, Q258529, Q253299, and Q306342. These all seem to deal with either the system manager not installed or the Information store is not mounted. Both are working normally. I can backup this server from my other exchange server with out a problem. Once I put this server into production I will not be able to do it that way because we only have a 96 kbps pipe and about 8.4 gigs of data that need to go on that server. It would take 25.5 hours to do the backup, which is not an option. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jeffrey Witt System Administrator Huf North America Work: (414) 365-8146 Mobile: (262) 227-1719 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin
RE: Backup Exchange Server
It sounds like you are clicking on the Exchange 5.5 portion of NTBACKUP -Original Message- From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Exchange Server All, I am in the process of bringing up another Exchange server for a remote site. I have E2k SP3 installed on W2k SP3. When I try to set up the backup through NTBackup. The Exchange option is grayed out. I double click it and I get a message box to connect to a remote server. I cannot connect to the local server. In the event log I am getting an 8012 error from source NTBackup. The 'ESE API' returned 'Callback ' from a call to 'HrESEBackupRestoreNodes()' additional data 'HUFNA-EX1' I Have checked Q255530, Q258529, Q253299, and Q306342. These all seem to deal with either the system manager not installed or the Information store is not mounted. Both are working normally. I can backup this server from my other exchange server with out a problem. Once I put this server into production I will not be able to do it that way because we only have a 96 kbps pipe and about 8.4 gigs of data that need to go on that server. It would take 25.5 hours to do the backup, which is not an option. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jeffrey Witt System Administrator Huf North America Work: (414) 365-8146 Mobile: (262) 227-1719 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Exchange Server
I am reinstalling SP3 now. I didn't think it was possible to do an exchange 2000 install and not get the backup utility installed also. I'll look for an option to add the backup utility to the install. -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exchange Server It sounds like you are clicking on the Exchange 5.5 portion of NTBACKUP -Original Message- From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Exchange Server All, I am in the process of bringing up another Exchange server for a remote site. I have E2k SP3 installed on W2k SP3. When I try to set up the backup through NTBackup. The Exchange option is grayed out. I double click it and I get a message box to connect to a remote server. I cannot connect to the local server. In the event log I am getting an 8012 error from source NTBackup. The 'ESE API' returned 'Callback ' from a call to 'HrESEBackupRestoreNodes()' additional data 'HUFNA-EX1' I Have checked Q255530, Q258529, Q253299, and Q306342. These all seem to deal with either the system manager not installed or the Information store is not mounted. Both are working normally. I can backup this server from my other exchange server with out a problem. Once I put this server into production I will not be able to do it that way because we only have a 96 kbps pipe and about 8.4 gigs of data that need to go on that server. It would take 25.5 hours to do the backup, which is not an option. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jeffrey Witt System Administrator Huf North America Work: (414) 365-8146 Mobile: (262) 227-1719 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Backup Exchange Server
There it is! Just a re-service pack. Thanks for all the help everyone. -Original Message- From: Jeffrey G. Witt Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exchange Server I am reinstalling SP3 now. I didn't think it was possible to do an exchange 2000 install and not get the backup utility installed also. I'll look for an option to add the backup utility to the install. -Original Message- From: Fyodorov, Andrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Backup Exchange Server It sounds like you are clicking on the Exchange 5.5 portion of NTBACKUP -Original Message- From: Jeffrey G. Witt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Backup Exchange Server All, I am in the process of bringing up another Exchange server for a remote site. I have E2k SP3 installed on W2k SP3. When I try to set up the backup through NTBackup. The Exchange option is grayed out. I double click it and I get a message box to connect to a remote server. I cannot connect to the local server. In the event log I am getting an 8012 error from source NTBackup. The 'ESE API' returned 'Callback ' from a call to 'HrESEBackupRestoreNodes()' additional data 'HUFNA-EX1' I Have checked Q255530, Q258529, Q253299, and Q306342. These all seem to deal with either the system manager not installed or the Information store is not mounted. Both are working normally. I can backup this server from my other exchange server with out a problem. Once I put this server into production I will not be able to do it that way because we only have a 96 kbps pipe and about 8.4 gigs of data that need to go on that server. It would take 25.5 hours to do the backup, which is not an option. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Jeffrey Witt System Administrator Huf North America Work: (414) 365-8146 Mobile: (262) 227-1719 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quick question re backup
Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000: If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in backing up program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup the program files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data directory? I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't doing BLB's but I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having trouble getting all our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware compression enabled (otherwise software). I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc but cannot find a definitive answer on this. Thanks Support Analyst TKC Group Ltd Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est Keynsham BS31 1TZ UK 0117 916 1320 This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Quick question re backup
How big are the stores? -Original Message- From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000: If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in backing up program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup the program files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data directory? I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't doing BLB's but I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having trouble getting all our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware compression enabled (otherwise software). I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc but cannot find a definitive answer on this. Thanks Support Analyst TKC Group Ltd Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est Keynsham BS31 1TZ UK 0117 916 1320 This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Quick question re backup
Along with martin I might ask... 1.) Umm What is your total Drive capacity? 2.) Of the total capacity how much is in use? 3.) IF say IN USE is say =/less then 40/80GB I would think it should fit. Note: Remember compression is a funny thing and often is not going to work the way you may think...i.e. somethings just dont compress..kinda 4.) have you worked with your block size in BE for the tape drive..etc..Ive found that can make a big diff in performance..etc... 5.) What is and is not backing up...I think maybe some more details might help others reading your post here. 6.) Is the box only exchange or is it say file and rpint too.??? 2 cents bill -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:58 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Quick question re backup How big are the stores? -Original Message- From: Rob Hackney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000: If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in backing up program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup the program files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data directory? I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't doing BLB's but I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having trouble getting all our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware compression enabled (otherwise software). I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc but cannot find a definitive answer on this. Thanks Support Analyst TKC Group Ltd Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est Keynsham BS31 1TZ UK 0117 916 1320 This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Quick question re backup
Do not back up M: as it can corrupt the store. Do not back up exchsrvr\*data directories as all the data those directories is transient or the files are open. The only exception is exchsrvr\kmsdata (if you use it), which you can only back up successfully if you shut down the Key Management Server service first. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hackney Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Quick question re backup Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000: If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in backing up program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup the program files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data directory? I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't doing BLB's but I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having trouble getting all our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware compression enabled (otherwise software). I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc but cannot find a definitive answer on this. Thanks Support Analyst TKC Group Ltd Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est Keynsham BS31 1TZ UK 0117 916 1320 This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Quick question re backup
I thought Exchange 2000 supported online backup of the KMS. Neil -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 26 March 2003 15:25 Posted To: Swynk Exchange List Conversation: Quick question re backup Subject: RE: Quick question re backup Do not back up M: as it can corrupt the store. Do not back up exchsrvr\*data directories as all the data those directories is transient or the files are open. The only exception is exchsrvr\kmsdata (if you use it), which you can only back up successfully if you shut down the Key Management Server service first. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hackney Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Quick question re backup Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000: If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in backing up program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup the program files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data directory? I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't doing BLB's but I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having trouble getting all our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware compression enabled (otherwise software). I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc but cannot find a definitive answer on this. Thanks Support Analyst TKC Group Ltd Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est Keynsham BS31 1TZ UK 0117 916 1320 This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands. If you have received this email in error, please contact our Support Desk immediately on 01202-360360 or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] * _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Quick question re backup
Thanks Ed - that answers my question -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 March 2003 15:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Quick question re backup Do not back up M: as it can corrupt the store. Do not back up exchsrvr\*data directories as all the data those directories is transient or the files are open. The only exception is exchsrvr\kmsdata (if you use it), which you can only back up successfully if you shut down the Key Management Server service first. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Hackney Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Quick question re backup Using exch 2000 sp3 with backupexec 8.6 for sbs2000: If I am backing up the microsoft information store but not microsoft exchange mailboxes or the M: drive then there is no point in backing up program files\exchsrvr is there? Or should I still backup the program files\exchsrvr directory but deselect the mdb data directory? I thought I had set up the backup procedure so that I wasn't doing BLB's but I had to examine the procedure closely as I am having trouble getting all our data onto a 40/80gb dltIV tape with hardware compression enabled (otherwise software). I've had a look at the faq and had a good search around the archives etc but cannot find a definitive answer on this. Thanks Support Analyst TKC Group Ltd Unit 5 Ashmead Ind Est Keynsham BS31 1TZ UK 0117 916 1320 This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed. It should not be deemed to constitute a binding contract between TKC Group and the recipient(s) unless a purchase order number is quoted. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of TKC Group Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please do not copy or disclose its contents. Please return it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete the email. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
