Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-24 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 17.47 19/10/2003, you wrote: ftp://ftp.surfnet.nl/vol/1/mandrake-mandrake/9.2/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/kernel-source-2.4.22-10.mdk.i586.rpm is what you're looking for (IIRC this was about kernel sources wasn't it?). It's about 40Mb big which is a lot less to download than a complete iso image. But

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-24 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 17.32 19/10/2003, you wrote: There's nothing wrong with waiting a little bit but, since you would have to have the 9.2 tree downloaded to make the isos, have you considered doing an hd install from the tree? Probably I will download the full tree (could someone tell me in advance how much

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-24 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 04.33 20/10/2003, you wrote: I did have dependency problems, but the CDs were made and boot and install. It looks like most of the dependency issues were with apache2 (which I'm not running, anyway). I need to know how to solve the dependency problems. I suppose Mandrakesoft solved them

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-24 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 24, 2003 03:05 am, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: At 17.32 19/10/2003, you wrote: There's nothing wrong with waiting a little bit but, since you would have to have the 9.2 tree downloaded to make the isos, have you considered doing an hd install

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-21 Thread Dave Seff
isn't not supplying the kernel source technically a violation of GPL? It probably was not intentional. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-21 Thread Wolfgang Bornath
Dave Seff schrieb am Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:10:49 -0400: isn't not supplying the kernel source technically a violation of GPL? It probably was not intentional. It is intentional and it is not a violation of the GPL. Period. Time to move on. wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-19 Thread kat
You'll want to look at the urpmi --parallel switch. It's more fully explianed in the urpmi HOWTO at http://www.urpmi.org. The links returned a '404 - File Not Found' message. Anyplace else this could be hosted? Kat Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-19 Thread Anne Wilson
On Sunday 19 Oct 2003 4:13 pm, kat wrote: You'll want to look at the urpmi --parallel switch. It's more fully explianed in the urpmi HOWTO at http://www.urpmi.org. The links returned a '404 - File Not Found' message. Anyplace else this could be hosted? Kat It might be worth trying

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-19 Thread kat
You'll want to look at the urpmi --parallel switch. It's more fully explianed in the urpmi HOWTO at http://www.urpmi.org. The links returned a '404 - File Not Found' message. Anyplace else this could be hosted? Kat It might be worth trying again, Kat. It is working from here

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-19 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 00.02 19/10/2003, you wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 22:27, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: Ok, but I have to wait until 9.2 will be available for everyone. Olaf It already is and has been all along..check the mirrors. It's only the 9.2 iso's that aren't available allover (yet). But I don't

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-19 Thread Rolf Pedersen
Olaf Marzocchi wrote: At 00.02 19/10/2003, you wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 22:27, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: Ok, but I have to wait until 9.2 will be available for everyone. Olaf It already is and has been all along..check the mirrors. It's only the 9.2 iso's that aren't available

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-19 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Sunday 19 October 2003 17:23, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: At 00.02 19/10/2003, you wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 22:27, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: Ok, but I have to wait until 9.2 will be available for everyone. Olaf It already is and has been all along..check the mirrors. It's only

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-19 Thread Bill Mullen
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003, kat wrote: The first few links work but when I go to the individual tools, such as 'urpmi,' the '404' message comes up. Yes, it appears that the HOWTO links no longer work, as the tiscali.co.uk site that held those pages is no longer valid; however, you can view the

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-19 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 08:44, kat wrote: You'll want to look at the urpmi --parallel switch. It's more fully explianed in the urpmi HOWTO at http://www.urpmi.org. The links returned a '404 - File Not Found' message. Anyplace else this could be hosted? Kat It might be

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-19 Thread Joeb
Olaf Marzocchi wrote: At 00.02 19/10/2003, you wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 22:27, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: Ok, but I have to wait until 9.2 will be available for everyone. Olaf It already is and has been all along..check the mirrors. It's only the 9.2 iso's that aren't available

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Gary Hodder
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 14:07, Carroll Grigsby wrote: On Friday 17 October 2003 11:21 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 17 October 2003 10:44 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 18.08 17/10/2003, you wrote: and looking at 9.1 Prosuite Edition CDs+DVD ONLY, they came with 8CD + 1DVD... the same for 9.2 is 9 + 1DVD, so that's 700MB of extra stuff between 9.1 and 9.2 ok, ok, you are right... but if you can't download the extra stuff over your modem, you could of course

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 18 Oct 2003 10:55 am, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: At 18.08 17/10/2003, you wrote: and looking at 9.1 Prosuite Edition CDs+DVD ONLY, they came with 8CD + 1DVD... the same for 9.2 is 9 + 1DVD, so that's 700MB of extra stuff between 9.1 and 9.2 ok, ok, you are right... but if you

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 18 October 2003 05:55 am, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: I think that Mandrakesoft should explain somewhere how to build a forth install CD: having the RPMs burned in a CD or having them in a CD added to the urpmi (+GUI) sources is different... And to add the CD to the sources there must

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 12.36 18/10/2003, you wrote: Which is where the TWiki comes in. Why not write up how you did it and make it available for everyone else? But I didn't (yet): I'm not a club member and I son't have 9.2. Furthermore, Steven explained me how to do, you should have received his post as well.

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread D. R. Evans
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 16 Oct 2003 at 20:59, James Sparenberg wrote: No, the violation would be if it wasn't available at all. Since it is available via urpmi and or the web. I couldn't find anything about obtaining the kernel sources for 9.2 in the wiki. Perhaps

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Anne Wilson
On Saturday 18 Oct 2003 12:14 pm, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: At 12.36 18/10/2003, you wrote: Which is where the TWiki comes in. Why not write up how you did it and make it available for everyone else? But I didn't (yet): I'm not a club member and I son't have 9.2. Furthermore, Steven explained

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 18 October 2003 13:48, Greg Meyer wrote: Download the rpms you want from the mirrors, burn them to cd, then add cd as urpmi source. Which still calls for a hdlist.cz describing the packages on that CD. It will not be accepted without! Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Theo Brinkman
It was mentioned in this thread that all of the Mandrake Packs will come with the nVidia drivers. Anybody care to pass them along to the rest of us? Or do I have to wait until Nvidia gets them onto their site? - Theo Anne Wilson wrote: On Saturday 18 Oct 2003 12:14 pm, Olaf Marzocchi

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Rolf Pedersen
H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 13:48, Greg Meyer wrote: Download the rpms you want from the mirrors, burn them to cd, then add cd as urpmi source. Which still calls for a hdlist.cz describing the packages on that CD. It will not be accepted without! Good luck, HarM You can

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 18, 2003 02:30 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 13:48, Greg Meyer wrote: Download the rpms you want from the mirrors, burn them to cd, then add cd as urpmi source. Which still calls for a hdlist.cz describing the

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 20.44 18/10/2003, you wrote: 2) Open Source is about sharing responsibility and labour. It is not for me to learn in depth about a problem that you are solving in order for me to write an article. I am asking you to pay back the help you receive by helping someone else. Ok, but I have to

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Tim Sawchuck
On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 16:31:03 -0400 Theo Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was mentioned in this thread that all of the Mandrake Packs will come with the nVidia drivers. Anybody care to pass them along to the rest of us? Or do I have to wait until Nvidia gets them onto their site?

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 18 October 2003 22:46, Charlie M. wrote: Are you sure about that HarM? If you don't download all the rpm's in that directory, then the hdlist.cz will not be valid anymoreyou'll have to generate a new one with the right packages using the -f option. If the gui does that by

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 13:30, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 13:48, Greg Meyer wrote: Download the rpms you want from the mirrors, burn them to cd, then add cd as urpmi source. Which still calls for a hdlist.cz describing the packages on that CD. It will not be accepted

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Charlie M.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 October 18, 2003 03:16 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 22:46, Charlie M. wrote: Are you sure about that HarM? If you don't download all the rpm's in that directory, then the hdlist.cz will not be valid anymoreyou'll have

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 13:30, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 13:48, Greg Meyer wrote: Download the rpms you want from the mirrors, burn them to cd, then add cd as urpmi source. Which still calls for a hdlist.cz describing the packages on that CD. It will not be accepted

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 18 October 2003 23:35, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 13:30, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 13:48, Greg Meyer wrote: Download the rpms you want from the mirrors, burn them to cd, then add cd as urpmi source. Which still calls for a hdlist.cz

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread H.J.Bathoorn
On Saturday 18 October 2003 22:27, Olaf Marzocchi wrote: Ok, but I have to wait until 9.2 will be available for everyone. Olaf It already is and has been all along..check the mirrors. It's only the 9.2 iso's that aren't available allover (yet). Good luck, HarM -- Registered Linux User

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 18 October 2003 05:42 pm, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: Here's a nice one to get your battered brain in gear: Got any tips on an easy way to keep all the other PC's on the LAN in sync without each and everyone ftp-ing and rsyncing over the www? It just seems a waste of bandwidth to me

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-18 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 14:42, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 23:35, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sat, 2003-10-18 at 13:30, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: On Saturday 18 October 2003 13:48, Greg Meyer wrote: Download the rpms you want from the mirrors, burn them to cd, then add cd

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread Steve Cox
On Thursday, 16 October 2003 20:35, Thomas Backlund wrote: From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] A bit more information and I am no longer prepared to be T'd off when I get my CDs. I see that the bare-bones, 3CD iso download addition is what is missing the kernel source, not

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread ef2
What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? Also, kernel2.4-marcelo could be dropped, there are also 4 kernel-doc packages, one (or even none) would be sufficient. And maybe kernel-secure, which is really for professional use ? Eric Want to buy your Pack

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 09:41, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Err, in following this thread my first thought is: isn't not supplying the kernel source technically a violation of GPL? The HAVE to supply the source and should make allowances

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread Eric Fernandez
Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years. I don't see a kernel-headers package since 9.0 (and maybe even before). Am I mistaken ? Eric Want to buy your Pack or

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread Olaf Marzocchi
At 20.35 16/10/2003, you wrote: The reason for dropping kernel-source, was AFAIK to make room for all the kde-i18n, koffice-i18n stuff... as you know mdk supports *many* languages... i18n and similar were in other MDK distro... so they added something else, your explanation isn't an explanation.

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years. I don't see a kernel-headers package since 9.0 (and

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread ed tharp
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 11:29, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years.

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Olaf Marzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 20.35 16/10/2003, you wrote: The reason for dropping kernel-source, was AFAIK to make room for all the kde-i18n, koffice-i18n stuff... as you know mdk supports *many* languages... i18n and similar were in other MDK distro... so they added something

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 08:34, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 11:29, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? Also, kernel2.4-marcelo could be dropped, there are also 4 kernel-doc packages, one (or even none) would be sufficient. And maybe kernel-secure, which is really for

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years. I don't see a kernel-headers package since 9.0 (and

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 08:29, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? been done for years.

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 08:34, ed tharp wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 11:29, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 07:46, Eric Fernandez wrote: Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? Also, kernel2.4-marcelo could be dropped, there are also 4 kernel-doc packages, one (or even none) would be sufficient. And maybe kernel-secure, which is really for

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 17 October 2003 10:44 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? Also, kernel2.4-marcelo could be dropped, there are also 4 kernel-doc packages, one (or even none) would

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-17 Thread Carroll Grigsby
On Friday 17 October 2003 11:21 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 17 October 2003 10:44 pm, James Sparenberg wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-17 at 02:52, ef2 wrote: What about splitting the kernel into source and headers, for driver compilations ? Also, kernel2.4-marcelo could be dropped, there

[expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-16 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Err, in following this thread my first thought is: isn't not supplying the kernel source technically a violation of GPL? The HAVE to supply the source and should make allowances (reductions in certain packages) if it is not possible to put the

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-16 Thread Thomas Backlund
Praedor Atrebates kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika Torstai 16 Lokakuu 2003 19:41): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Err, in following this thread my first thought is: isn't not supplying the kernel source technically a violation of GPL? The HAVE to supply the source and

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-16 Thread Joeb
kernels could have been on the powerpack CD or downloaded. Joeb -Original Message- From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Oct 16, 2003 11:41 AM To: Mandrake Expert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos... -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-16 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, thanks for the clarification...that said however, I am now concerned that I wasted my money by purchasing 9.2. I expect the CDs to arrive by the end of the month and expect the source to be included as my Nvidia card is essentially useless

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-16 Thread Praedor Atrebates
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 A bit more information and I am no longer prepared to be T'd off when I get my CDs. I see that the bare-bones, 3CD iso download addition is what is missing the kernel source, not what I ordered (nor what anyone paid for). Given this, it is still

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-16 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:11:03 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OK, thanks for the clarification...that said however, I am now concerned that I wasted my money by purchasing 9.2. I expect the CDs to arrive by the end of the month and expect the source to be included as my

Re: [expert] Missing kernel source from 9.2 isos...

2003-10-16 Thread Thomas Backlund
From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] A bit more information and I am no longer prepared to be T'd off when I get my CDs. I see that the bare-bones, 3CD iso download addition is what is missing the kernel source, not what I ordered (nor what anyone paid for). Given this, it is still not