[FairfieldLife] Re: Rigorous

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, judging research before you have even read it. That is what the Church did to Gallileo. Next step for your type is you'll be dunking people in rivers to see if they have magical powers or not.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, matrixmonitor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Right, but there's no law dictating that animals can't get Enlightened. Ramana Maharshi stated that Lakshmi the Cow got Enlightened upon leaving her body. And, in a brilliant demonstration of the essential

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cathar Heresy

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made the original post because the Cather perspective seemed interesting -- there was far more in the series than the sexual parts. Searching, I found afew furhter interstingt articles. I am not a Cathar scholar

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning

2007-05-11 Thread claudiouk
constantly crossing and recrossing the gap of ignorance might imply therefore that something is lacking in UNITY? Never saw the sense of the purpose of life as expansion of happiness by going into ignorance.. if the happiness is in the return to Unity, why wander off in the first place?? ---

[FairfieldLife] Uncle Tantra's Garden

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
[ I wrote this yesterday night, but didn't post it at that time because it didn't seem to fit with the topics being discussed. It still doesn't, but here goes anyway. If Edg and Curtis can write about their everyday lives as if they were some kind of spiritual sadhana, I guess I can, too. - Unc

[FairfieldLife] Re: recent photos of rishikesh Chair order cancelled

2007-05-11 Thread Duveyoung
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (here I sound like edg, being sure I keep the ego in check) Lurky, I think I'm on record for being helpless in the face of the ego's powers to snatch identity out of my tightest grasp -- and then use it like the skin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uncle Tantra's Garden

2007-05-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
Fantastic news man! You have the risk/reward system mastered. I am placing dibs on the wheelchair next to yours at the nursing home. As far as discussing my everyday life being sadhana, here is the secret: put the world wholness in it somewhere and you can get away with anything. Example

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uncle Tantra's Garden

2007-05-11 Thread new . morning
Very nice piece. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ I wrote this yesterday night, but didn't post it at that time because it didn't seem to fit with the topics being discussed. It still doesn't, but here goes anyway. If Edg and Curtis can write

[FairfieldLife] Re: recent photos of rishikesh Chair order cancelled

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ (here I sound like edg, being sure I keep the ego in check) Lurky, I think I'm on record for being helpless in the face of the ego's powers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uncle Tantra's Garden

2007-05-11 Thread curtisdeltablues
Only if measured in dog years. But using the right language might attract them to our wholeness...fer shizzzle. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ wrote: Fantastic news man!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uncle Tantra's Garden

2007-05-11 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues As far as discussing my everyday life being sadhana, here is the secret: put the world wholness in it somewhere and you can get away with anything. Example Yesterday I talked to this Iranian chick and she was so totally hot in her red

[FairfieldLife] THE NEW RULERS OF THE WORLD

2007-05-11 Thread apprillia_s_d
THE NEW RULERS OF THE WORLD - Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8firb73r67g - Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYaDY-xTzZ0 - Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4se4jYI9KAc - Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4se4jYI9KAc - Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0tIB9m_BBg

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uncle Tantra's Garden

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turk, Nice piece, dude. Felt inside your brain. I can only hope that this was a pleasurable experience. It's sometimes a bit trying for me. :-) And for good reason: yesterday I made a decision to move also.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uncle Tantra's Garden

2007-05-11 Thread Duveyoung
Turk, Nice piece, dude. Felt inside your brain. And for good reason: yesterday I made a decision to move also. Synchrony between me and you, go figure. I live on a lake, and from my office window, for three years now, 15 feet from the water, each day I see the sun and moon kiss a mountain

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uncle Tantra's Garden

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues As far as discussing my everyday life being sadhana, here is the secret: put the world wholness in it somewhere and you can get away with anything. Example

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uncle Tantra's Garden

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fantastic news man! You have the risk/reward system mastered. I am placing dibs on the wheelchair next to yours at the nursing home. As far as discussing my everyday life being sadhana, here is the secret:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning

2007-05-11 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And why is it that the billions of souls on this atmospheric sphere placed precisely in space, near Surya, have chosen this very moment to realize the exact lessons, their perfect dreams, the specific scenery of

[FairfieldLife] Re: First seer of Veda

2007-05-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
Erik wrote: Well, whadya know! That seems to be *true*! Well, whadya know - there's no mention of any Devata in the Vedas. Or any Yakshis dwelling in a *Kadamba* tree! bob_brigante wrote: 'So in the common terminology he saw Rishi, he saw Devata value... Richard J. Williams wrote:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning

2007-05-11 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: constantly crossing and recrossing the gap of ignorance might imply therefore that something is lacking in UNITY? Never saw the sense of the purpose of life as expansion of happiness by going into ignorance.. if the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (For Billy G. and all)

2007-05-11 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip In the Judeo-Christian tradition, the effects of Maya is similar to the myth of Eden, where humans have lost the capacity to enjoy divine existence while here on Earth due to the error (sin) of Adam and Eve. snip

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (For Billy G. and all)

2007-05-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
John wrote: As an extension of Chopra's analogy, we can say that if one has not reached cosmic consciousness, then the phenomenal world is an illusion or Maya due to the effects of the gunas. The point I was trying to make, John, is that if Purusha, the Transcendental Person, is part and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Cathar Heresy

2007-05-11 Thread Richard J. Williams
Turquoise wrote: The parent belief system is called Dualism, with the different flavors of Dualism being the children. In other words, Catharism isn't a child of Gnosticism; both are children of Dualism. Cathars come from Bogomils, Bogomils come from Paulicans, Paulicans come from

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning

2007-05-11 Thread Marek Reavis
I sees through both my eyes. I sees through all 100 trillion eyes on this planet. So what's the use of yet another pair of eyes to see with, unless it's to check out what the binocular perspective from that moving point in the universe is like. Being yet one more hot squidge of

[FairfieldLife] Airport Shuttle

2007-05-11 Thread Jonathan Chadwick
Is there still somebody in FF who runs a shuttle to and from the CR airport? - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list.

[FairfieldLife] Question on Pete Townshend

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
Vaj (or anyone), do you know whether Townshend has ever followed a formal spiritual path, or paths? I've been watching the 2005 DVD of his live performance of Psychoderelict (and many old Who songs as well), and the man is *very* impressive indeed. Psychoderelict is a ballsy blend of live

Re: [FairfieldLife] Question on Pete Townshend

2007-05-11 Thread Vaj
On May 11, 2007, at 12:58 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Vaj (or anyone), do you know whether Townshend has ever followed a formal spiritual path, or paths? I've been watching the 2005 DVD of his live performance of Psychoderelict (and many old Who songs as well), and the man is *very* impressive

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question on Pete Townshend

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 11, 2007, at 12:58 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: Vaj (or anyone), do you know whether Townshend has ever followed a formal spiritual path, or paths? I've been watching the 2005 DVD of his live performance of

[FairfieldLife] Weird Support of Nature??

2007-05-11 Thread cardemaister
http://members.iinet.net.au/~gduncan/assassination_attempts.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning - flaws of Unity

2007-05-11 Thread claudiouk
Both of you are looking at the Relative in a rather upbeat way, perhaps reflecting transient (for most mortals) blissful moods (maybe states or permanent stations in your cases??). Doesn't help the wilderbeast being tormented to death by lions or some innocent 16- year old in Pakistan having

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (For Billy G. and all)

2007-05-11 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John wrote: As an extension of Chopra's analogy, we can say that if one has not reached cosmic consciousness, then the phenomenal world is an illusion or Maya due to the effects of the gunas. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: recent photos of rishikesh

2007-05-11 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 steve.sundur@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: snip So you are insinuating that Maharishi is an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (For Billy G. and all)

2007-05-11 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brahm is Brahman's reflection in Prakriti, as such He/She is limited in time and space. A blue crystal ball will refect the yellow light of the sun IN the crystal, as blue...once the crystal ball (prakriti) disolves the

[FairfieldLife] Let's reclaim Mother's Day for peace

2007-05-11 Thread Dick Mays
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/10/commentary.noor/index.html Let's reclaim Mother's Day for peace POSTED: 10:48 a.m. EDT, May 11, 2007 By Queen Noor Special to CNN Editor's note: Her Majesty Queen Noor of Jordan is an international humanitarian activist, a leading voice on issues of

[FairfieldLife] ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread george_deforest
claudiouk wrote: constantly crossing and recrossing the gap of ignorance might imply therefore that something is lacking in UNITY? Never saw the sense of the purpose of life as expansion of happiness by going into ignorance.. if the happiness is in the return to Unity, why wander off in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning - flaws of Unity

2007-05-11 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both of you are looking at the Relative in a rather upbeat way, perhaps reflecting transient (for most mortals) blissful moods (maybe states or permanent stations in your cases??). Doesn't help the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (For Billy G. and all)

2007-05-11 Thread John
Billy G., Your response is very thought provoking. I'm sure the theologians and yogis of the past have addressed your ideas one way or another. My take is as follows: 1. Certainly 'Adam and Eve, (representing the thinking and the feeling part of man's nature, even today) the androgynous

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras.

2007-05-11 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From a linguistic POV that's so confusing that I'd like to know what exactly is your source for that. The analogy of the crystal ball comes from Swami Yogananda's book, The Second Coming of Christ. Actually, those

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning - flaws of Unity

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both of you are looking at the Relative in a rather upbeat way, perhaps reflecting transient (for most mortals) blissful moods (maybe states or permanent stations in your cases??). Doesn't help the wilderbeast being

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras (For Billy G. and all)

2007-05-11 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Among theological circles, Moses is proclaimed to be the author of the Myth of Eden. Given his Hebrew background, the ideas of maya and prakriti are foreign to him. I think it would be hard to say what Moses knew

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread claudiouk
'So both diversification and unification ... when the two come to awareness then the hiding, the cover, also comes to awareness. So the cover is uncovered. This is the mechanics of how we get suffering and the elimination of suffering. But suffering still dominates in the Relative, like a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning - flaws of Unity

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Both of you are looking at the Relative in a rather upbeat way, perhaps reflecting transient (for most mortals) blissful

[FairfieldLife] Re: Uncle Tantra's Garden

2007-05-11 Thread TurquoiseB
An old quote that I'd saved in my Quotes file, but only rediscovered today: People cannot discover new lands until they have the courage to lose sight of the shore. - Andre Gide --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Turk, Nice piece,

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread Marek Reavis
Quick comment below: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'So both diversification and unification ... when the two come to awareness then the hiding, the cover, also comes to awareness. So the cover is uncovered. This is the mechanics of how we get

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras.

2007-05-11 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: From a linguistic POV that's so confusing that I'd like to know what exactly is your source for that. The analogy of the crystal ball comes from

RE: [FairfieldLife] Airport Shuttle

2007-05-11 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Chadwick Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 11:50 AM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Airport Shuttle Is there still somebody in FF who runs a shuttle to and from the CR airport? FFL's own LB

[FairfieldLife] Totality and non-existence of diversity

2007-05-11 Thread bob_brigante
'Totality is everywhere and diversity is non-existent. Diversity is non-existent. Unity is eternal, diversity is non-existent. Sarvam khalvidam Brahm, Aham Brahmasmi, wherever is 'A', there is totality, Brahm. That is why Aham or Atma, Aham, Atma. That is totality. 'That appears, to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread claudiouk
Ignorance is only apparent, it isn't real - I know, fundamentally and philosophically this is supposed to be so and yes one can appreciate the cleverness in that magical trick - it's only a rope that appears like a snake etc; but experientially suffering is real enough. The deception then

[FairfieldLife] Amma is going to Brazil and Chile (first time in S. America)

2007-05-11 Thread Rick Archer
I don't know if we have any South Americans on the list, but in case we do: Amma announced that She is in fact going to Brazil after Chile, with public programs on July 31st, August 1st and 2nd. There will be day and night programs, as well as Devi Bhava on the last night. If you want to go and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning - flaws of Unity

2007-05-11 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk claudiouk@ wrote: Both of you are looking at the Relative in a rather upbeat way, perhaps reflecting transient (for most mortals) blissful moods (maybe states or permanent stations in your cases??). For me a mood is a state of

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread Marek Reavis
Comment at bottom: ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ignorance is only apparent, it isn't real - I know, fundamentally and philosophically this is supposed to be so and yes one can appreciate the cleverness in that magical trick - it's only a rope

[FairfieldLife] Re: Reflections on Patanjali's Yoga Sutras.

2007-05-11 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. wgm4u@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: From a linguistic POV that's so confusing that I'd like to know what exactly is

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread qntmpkt
--So which is it? Suffering is eliminated, or is it reduced? Occasionally, a scale of 1 to 10 is used in questionnaires to rank one's subjective level of sufferingsay migraines. Are you saying that with a rank of k or below, suffering is eliminated, but reduced if it's above k level? Or,

[FairfieldLife] 20/20

2007-05-11 Thread Rick Archer
ABC's 20/20 show on Faith is quite good. Very good segment on Amma at the beginning. It's 2 hours long and not yet half over as I write this. Those on the west coast should be able to see the whole thing.

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --So which is it? Suffering is eliminated, or is it reduced? As I understand it, suffering is *transcended*. You (whoever you is) become identified with That which cannot suffer, which is beyond the plane of suffering. The

[FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama Quote , Buddhist version of Brahman

2007-05-11 Thread quantum packet
Note: forwarded message attached. - Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. ---BeginMessage--- Title: Snow Lion Publications Newsletter

[FairfieldLife] MSNBC To Catch a Predator

2007-05-11 Thread MDixon6569
A friend of mine works for NBC and he told that they are heading out to Fairfield Iowa to set up the Catch a Predator sting there.It will be interesting to see who gets caught! ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

[FairfieldLife] Re: MSNBC To Catch a Predator

2007-05-11 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A friend of mine works for NBC and he told that they are heading out to Fairfield Iowa to set up the Catch a Predator sting there.It will be interesting to see who gets caught! Be interesting to see if your spilling the

[FairfieldLife] Weekly Quota Reset

2007-05-11 Thread Rick Archer
It's almost midnight Friday night. I think the 35 post limit worked well. No one exceeded it. Even Shemp was two posts short. So I'll reset the count.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning - flaws of Unity

2007-05-11 Thread new . morning
That raises the question, in my mind, if you were living in hell, would you know it? Or would you rationalize an altrnative more hopeful view? It seems the Cathars recognized / believed that they were in hell -- a suffering life made by and ruled by Satan. Hells, various levels, might be

[FairfieldLife] Re: ignorance is part of totality

2007-05-11 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ignorance is only apparent, it isn't real - I know, fundamentally and philosophically this is supposed to be so and yes one can appreciate the cleverness in that magical trick - it's only a rope that appears like a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 20/20

2007-05-11 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ABC's 20/20 show on Faith is quite good. Very good segment on Amma at the beginning. It's 2 hours long and not yet half over as I write this. Those on the west coast should be able to see the whole thing. I stayed up

[FairfieldLife] Re: Whole Brain Functioning - flaws of Unity

2007-05-11 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: YES! This is what I meant when I said there is a place inside where the Purusha deeply hates and fears the Prakriti, and vice versa. Coming upon the Purusha's utterly helpless imprisonment within the