[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > Well, as cool as flying would no doubt be I think anyone being able to do > > so is obviously going against the laws of nature as we know them. Now of > > course, this brin

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread salyavin808
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > I have no idea if floating due to the Yogic Flying (or any other mental > technique) is possible, but you should understand that "law of nature" in > science means something rather different than when MMY uses the term. > > A scientif

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: (snip) > Steve, with all the "TM cheerleading" going down, > I just thought it would be useful for someone to > interject a little reality about the person so many > are trying to portray as so saintly and enlightened. As long as we're injec

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
Spelling corrected, plus a little bit more: the hell they aren't - the energy with which Marshy created the Movement has ALWAYS shown itself in the behavior its leaders have exhibited - no free passes on the basis of "Oh, the technique is gd! but the people who have been practicing the long

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ > wrote: > > > > > > It was rhetorical, actually - the man was many things, but > > > enlightened or sa

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
the hell they aren't - the energy that Marshy created the Movement has ALWAYS shown itself in the behavior it leaders have exhibited - no free passes on the basis of "Oh, the technique is gd! but the people who have been practicing the longest just HAPPEN to be asses. If TM was all these fol

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread Ann
Thanks Judy and Sparaig for both of your inputs on this subject. Both answers are worthy of a second reading and I love how they require an expansion of the mind to grasp these wonderful concepts. Isn't life great when it is unpredictable and unknown? Being ignorant like I am means I can always

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread sparaig
I have no idea if floating due to the Yogic Flying (or any other mental technique) is possible, but you should understand that "law of nature" in science means something rather different than when MMY uses the term. A scientific law is merely a theory which has never been observed to be false,

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > It was rhetorical, actually - the man was many things, but enlightened or > saint were not among those things. Enlightened men or women and saints do not > leave behind the flotsam of destruction that Marshy left behind. People

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread feste37
Available in the West is what I said. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > nothing else like it available at the time??? What the hell do you think the > Indians did back then? > > > > > > From: feste37 > To: FairfieldLife@yahoo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hugo Chavez Is Near Death

2013-03-05 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 03/01/2013 12:28 PM, John wrote: > > He wanted to play a powerful role of the politics in South America. It appears that destiny has other plans for him. > > > > http://news.yahoo.com/hugo-ch-vez-not-dead-hes-close-050515351.html > > H

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > Now regarding that post with Lawson. I read Robin's post you > > referenced, and I generally agree with him on levitation not > > being a requirement f

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Mike Dixon
Judy understood what I said. ANY effort applied during meditation inhibits the process, at least in TM. Surrender, letting go, is how it works. M explained that in some techniques, people occasionally transcend  because at some point they accidentally *let go* and *it* happened and they thought

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
As usual you are wrong - I never said "enlightenment" made someone an asshole - besides it is pretty clear that TM doesn't lead to enlightenment anyway. From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 9:47

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > Well, as cool as flying would no doubt be I think anyone being able to do so > is obviously going against the laws of nature as we know them. Now of course, > this brings up the next question concerning the laws of nature we don't know > ab

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > nothing else like it available at the time??? What the > hell do you think the Indians did back then? Not TM as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi. It's my understanding that other Indian gurus were outraged at Maharishi for saying me

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > yeah well that's part of the problem, putting your > "enlightenment" in someone else's hands Huh?? Part of what "problem"? Checking takes, what, half an hour? And then you go home, maybe for another year or more before you get chec

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote: > > > > It was rhetorical, actually - the man was many things, but > > enlightened or saint were not among those things. Enlightened > > men or women and saints do

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > Now regarding that post with Lawson. I read Robin's post you > > referenced, and I generally agree with him on levitation not > > being a requirement f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > But you don't need TM to do that - so what about TM mantras are special? Cuz if it isn't the mantras, you can't seriously think the simple instructions given in the checking notes for example are responsible for TM being superior t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread sparaig
What makes TM "better? How it is taught. The specific mantras used are appropriate for householders. The theory that is presented in terms of rest rather than in terms of concentration, attention, control etc. Many people teach techniques that sound like they should be just as effective as TM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread seventhray27
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Okay, not superior but better - he absolutely said many times that TM was the best meditation to do. I think, (in fact I know, having been a teacher), that the connection was made as to the effortlessness, or "naturalness" of th

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread doctordumbass
I see. So, Tweedle Dee (MJ) and Tweedle Dum's (TB) egos assert that enlightenment, as a result of TM, causes people to be assholes, so neither Tweedle will do TM. I visited various tribes as a child with my dad in remote regions of the world. Some were suspicious of being photographed, because

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread Ann
Well, as cool as flying would no doubt be I think anyone being able to do so is obviously going against the laws of nature as we know them. Now of course, this brings up the next question concerning the laws of nature we don't know about. But I thought practicing TM puts you in accord with all t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
yeah well that's part of the problem, putting your "enlightenment" in someone else's hands From: authfriend To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 8:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders   --- In Fairfie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > I believe that we are all Pure Awareness, or something like that, Unbounded > Awareness whatever you call it. I believe the reason we can "transcend" is we > are naturally that state, or energy. That is our essence. > > > We a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Susan
MMY definitely said many times that TM was the fastest technique to reach enlightenment and by far the best technique around. He also said that if someone could not do TM, then Yogananda's Kriya meditation was the next best thing, altho a much slower path. He ofen said TM was a jet to enlighten

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > You are repeating TM propaganda crap, as if the only other > techniques are concentration and you know that is not true. That's not his point. The point is that *any* effort impedes transcending. Even TMers who think they're followi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > What Maharishi did, IMHO, was to think deeply > > about the nature of intention, of mental effort, > > and how easy it was for instruction to lead the > > student to exert

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
You are repeating TM propaganda crap, as if the only other techniques are concentration and you know that is not true. All of you have confirmed my suspicion that no one can come up with a logical credible reason that TM is a better or superior or more effective meditation than any other medita

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
nothing else like it available at the time??? What the hell do you think the Indians did back then? From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders   --- In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi-"Mantra and caste according to the individual's Jyotish

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
the mantras the Chopra meditation instructors give are chosen by jyotish chart, so his assertion that it couldn't be done in his lifetime was a lie. The idea that discussion would ruin the spontaneity and innocence if an individuals practice is ludicrous.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Mike Dixon
Well said. From: feste37 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:36 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders   --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In mailto:Fairf

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Mike Dixon
By the way, M used to say, in regards to mantras used in TM, that they are *meaningless sounds who's effects are known*. Many are closely associated with Saraswati, the goddess of learning. I would assume that these particular mantras stimulate the ability to learn and comprehend abstract thinki

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread feste37
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > > Okay, not superior but better - he absolutely said many times > > that TM was the best meditation to do. > > For householders, that is. > > > I wish some other T

[FairfieldLife] Maharishi-"Mantra and caste according to the individual's Jyotish

2013-03-05 Thread srijau
Maharishi stated on the Maharishi Channel before his Mahasamadhi that ideally individual mantras should be chosen on the basis on the individuals Ishtadevata as revealed by their Jyotish chart, it was not possible to institute this during his time on earth but its a direction for future generati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Okay, not superior but better - he absolutely said many times > that TM was the best meditation to do. For householders, that is. > I wish some other TM teachers here would weigh in on this > and explain to me how the instructions

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Wed 06-Mar-13 00:15:03 UTC

2013-03-05 Thread FFL PostCount
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
Okay, not superior but better - he absolutely said many times that TM was the best meditation to do. I wish some other TM teachers here would weigh in on this and explain to me how the instructions which are not much different than other meditations makes it better than any other. ___

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Mike Dixon
I'm not sure M ever said the mantras he gave were *superior*. It's the naturalness and effortlessness of the technique that is superior. It goes by it's self. There's no concentrating or effort made and is very effective. The mantras are just part of the tradition he came from as is the puja and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > Its not about wanting to hear anything in particular, its > about wanting to hear something CREDIBLE. Michael, the list of things you're willing to find CREDIBLE is nonexistent in this case. > I didn't think there would be anyone w

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
Its not about wanting to hear anything in particular, its about wanting to hear something CREDIBLE. I didn't think there would be anyone who would try to defend the idea that the TM mantras are somehow superior to other mantras, so I wanted to know what TM cheerleaders would say makes TM super

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > But you don't need TM to do that TM makes it very easy and systematic. The instructions are designed to keep you from getting in your own way. > - so what about TM mantras are special? Cuz if it isn't the > mantras, you can't seri

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > It was rhetorical, actually - the man was many things, but > enlightened or saint were not among those things. Enlightened > men or women and saints do not leave behind the flotsam of > destruction that Marshy left behind. For t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
It was rhetorical, actually - the man was many things, but enlightened or saint were not among those things. Enlightened men or women and saints do not leave behind the flotsam of destruction that Marshy left behind. People practicing the meditation of a saint do not turn out like Bevan, Neil, T

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
But you don't need TM to do that - so what about TM mantras are special? Cuz if it isn't the mantras, you can't seriously think the simple instructions given in the checking notes for example are responsible for TM being superior to all other meditation methods? _

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > How bout neither? MJ, Please, see my response to Judy on her reply to this question. Then, you can find out about my position on this matter. JR > > > > > > From: John > To: FairfieldL

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Mike Dixon
Correct, the actual instructions on meditation are simply like taking the correct angle on a diving board. Once the correct angle is reached, natural law(gravity) does the rest, you fall into the water. Once the mantra is thought effortlessly, the process of transcending begins. Making any effor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-05 Thread doctordumbass
Hi Curtis - not sure what I have to say about all of this. Let me give it a whirl: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > Thanks for keeping the rap going. I'd like to focus on a few points. > > > > > **Yeah, again, you must provide an example here. This ooga boo

[FairfieldLife] YF'ing on the Moon?

2013-03-05 Thread card
Earlier we thought it's not possible to YF on the Moon, because our Moon doesn't have a dipolar magnetic field? Now, if all the four basic forces of nature are expressions, on different energy levels, of one even more basic force, it might perhaps seem plausible to hypothesize that YF'ing on the

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > The saints who levitated did

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > The saints who levitated did not claim to be "enlightened," > > > nor could they have passed that test.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > wrote: > > > > > > From the viewpoint of a scientist doing research, > > > experiment

[FairfieldLife] Crazy for a job?

2013-03-05 Thread Bhairitu
In response to Turq's new gig I wrote about the terrible commutes in the Bay Area and a lot of that because swell headed execs of those companies want prestigious addresses in San Francisco or Silicon Valley. In fact Silicon Valley started out as a cheaper location to have a business back in t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote: > > Natural effortlessness. Bingo. Or more precisely, the specific instructional method Maharishi created (right down to the instruction to "Sit easily" rather than "Relax" at the start of checking). (The puja may be part of it as well--som

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > Now regarding that post with Lawson. I read Robin's post you > > referenced, and I generally agree with him on levitation not > > being a requirement for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism to Xeno

2013-03-05 Thread Share Long
Xeno, if I may respectfully say:  you are on quite a roll recently.  I've enjoyed your last 4 posts immensely if not infinitely (-: I especially enjoyed baldness as a hair color and fart rays as a possible explanation of levitation and the blessing from the non existent Zeus.  Now, onto more ser

[FairfieldLife] Why religion is laughable

2013-03-05 Thread turquoiseb
School Allegedly Fires Woman for Premarital Sex Then Offers Her Job to Co-Fornicator Sadly, it's fairly common to see stories about Christian schools firing pregnant

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Mike Dixon
Natural effortlessness. From: Michael Jackson To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders   Oh come on - Marshy always said TM was better than other meditatio

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" wrote: > > Now regarding that post with Lawson. I read Robin's post you > referenced, and I generally agree with him on levitation not > being a requirement for enlightenment. No tradition other > than the TMO, and that one only r

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: late (Ouch...) Alex-- spam!

2013-03-05 Thread david allen
Good essay on spiritual-needs & ezy-link to the FF paper.  And thanks for encouagement to visit again -- t was always nice out there.  WayBack, our 'programs' were practiced on foam-pads in large 'sheds' to help govern time-trends better.  I still have a badge covered with '7000' stickers -- wou

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > The saints who levitated did not claim to be "enlightened," > > nor could they have passed that test. > > > > Canonization by the Vatican has nothing to do with the > > Eastern

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > wrote: > > > > From the viewpoint of a scientist doing research, > > experiments can only manipulate physical variables. Any > > conceptualisation of what is occurring

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
Yes, Barry, you are so convinced of your own delusions that when people point out how deluded you are, it seems to you that *they're* batshit crazy. Everyone here, I think, is used to that by now; it's why we make fun of you all the time. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
Oh come on - Marshy always said TM was better than other meditations - for that to be true, the particular set of mantras have to be superior to all others. If not, what would then make TM better than other meditations? From: sparaig To: FairfieldLife@yahoog

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > I reread those posts (again) Judy. > > They don't, in any way, change what I assert. > > Robin's ability or inability to float or whatever is > marker for what he says it is: his own Unity (can't > speak for anyone else's here), by the t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread sparaig
All MMY claimed about TM mantras was: 1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if there are any, in his mind); 2) he deemed them to be suitable for householders; 3) some mantras were more suitable for some people than than others, and he chose a simple set that was reasonably ben

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread seekliberation
They are superior in that if you pay for them, it fills up the TMO's pockets with more money. More money = Superior. seekliberation --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > > My question is, if the TM mantras are superior, how are they superior? >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
How bout neither? From: John To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 11:22 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Tradition? to noozguur

2013-03-05 Thread Bhairitu
To be clear there are no such things as "ayurvedic mantras" but mantras used in ayurveda. On 03/05/2013 08:45 AM, Share Long wrote: > Yes, thank you, I have and use Dr. Lad's book. Never heard of a tribal > mantra before. VERY fascinating. Will google. > When Deepak was teaching primordial so

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > That graphic and the copy below was AMAZING! This is one > of my favorite pet peeves, tax exemptions for religions > but to see it spelled out this way really drives it home. Especially in a country founded on the principle o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote: > > I believe that we are all Pure Awareness, or something like that, Unbounded > Awareness whatever you call it. I believe the reason we can "transcend" is we > are naturally that state, or energy. That is our essence. > > We are ta

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread Share Long
Well I think that's what Ben Franklin and his buddies believed:  that prosperity was a sign of God's favor.  And didn't he end up on the hundred dollar bill?  Ben that is, not God (-: From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread curtisdeltablues
That graphic and the copy below was AMAZING! This is one of my favorite pet peeves, tax exemptions for religions but to see it spelled out this way really drives it home. Not to mention how their beliefs enjoy a protected status in society where pointing out the absurdity of religious beliefs

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-05 Thread curtisdeltablues
Excellent post. I had never heard the baldness analogy but it will become a part of my future raps off the board. I am not sure that this: " These are hypothetical constructs the mind/brain maps onto unbounded being." has meaning for me. I guess I am not convinced that we could subjectively

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mayday!

2013-03-05 Thread Bhairitu
One of the things that bugs be about "Ripper" is that it was shot more like an American TV series instead of a British one. "Copper" was done a little like that too. I first noticed this difference in cinematography with the UK seires "The Prisoner" back in the 1960s. Most US TV shows had lo

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi to John

2013-03-05 Thread Share Long
Wow, John I LOVE all these ideas:  that our universe might just be on the other side of a black hole in another universe; that there might be a duplicate earth with a duplicate me (3 planets in Gemini help me like that idea); that matter might eventually turn into light.  Thanks for sharing and

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote: > > Would it not be possible to rescind tax exemptions for churches and > then do both? Use the monies for the projects you mention. AND > those who want to, continue to go to church and pray for the success > of those projects? No problem

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread Share Long
Would it not be possible to rescind tax exemptions for churches and then do both?  Use the monies for the projects you mention.  AND those who want to, continue to go to church and pray for the success of those projects? From: turquoiseb To: FairfieldLife@ya

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread turquoiseb
Heh. I figured all I had to do was to point out how slavishly she's adopted Robin as her cult leader and she'd go batshit crazy. Good to see that the wind-up toy is still functioning. :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > Can you just imagine how horrified Barry's bos

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Tradition? to noozguur

2013-03-05 Thread Share Long
Yes, thank you, I have and use Dr. Lad's book.  Never heard of a tribal mantra before.  VERY fascinating.  Will google. When Deepak was teaching primordial sounds, I wonder if they were ayruvedic mantras. From: Bhairitu To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sen

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Brain: More Complex Than We Think.....

2013-03-05 Thread Share Long
Salya wrote and I chuckled at:  5 billion years of evolving bacteria has produced some strange upright apes with a few pounds  of cunningly wired lumps of mostly water and fat in their heads that come up with some really odd ideas. From: salyavin808 To: Fair

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-05 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
As to the various flavours of those who believe in various interpretations of reality, I recall reading a comment on atheism somewhere that those who believe atheism is like a religious belief are looking at the situation in the same way a person imagines that baldness is a hair color. There do

Re: [FairfieldLife] MUM Student Jason Aviles talks about Transcendental Meditation

2013-03-05 Thread Share Long
thanks, great guy, great clip.  I like how he emphasizes the effortlessness of TM From: merlin To: Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] MUM Student Jason Aviles talks about Transcendental Meditation   MUM Student Jason Aviles

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread authfriend
Can you just imagine how horrified Barry's bosses on this new job in Paris are going to be when they realize how his mind has deteriorated? I mean, he's always suffered from the delusion of thinking he can understand something someone has written without actually reading it; and he's always had th

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > > Outside of the TMO, many saints

[FairfieldLife] Question for TM Cheerleaders

2013-03-05 Thread Michael Jackson
I believe that we are all Pure Awareness, or something like that, Unbounded Awareness whatever you call it. I believe the reason we can "transcend" is we are naturally that state, or energy. That is our essence. We are taught from birth to narrow our focus rather than allow ourselves to exper

[FairfieldLife] Another Google translation: Matthew on toilet paper!

2013-03-05 Thread card
Are religious texts of toilet paper? - Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. The words are from the Bible, the Gospel of Matthew records Jesus' Sermon on the Mount. In Norway, they and other Bible verses have now also been seen on the toilet paper down, thanks to the Finnish pa

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > > > Here's my whole take on the Robin Thang. He had some minor > > > experience on a course that, given the size of his ego and > > > the demands of his NPD, he felt compelled to t

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ann" wrote: > > > Here's my whole take on the Robin Thang. He had some minor > > experience on a course that, given the size of his ego and > > the demands of his NPD, he felt compelled to turn into a > > MAJOR experience. > > See at least 45 posts on just

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interesting article on atheism

2013-03-05 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for keeping the rap going. I'd like to focus on a few points. > > **Yeah, again, you must provide an example here. This ooga booga > unconsciousness I don't know about. Even when I am asleep I have > self-awareness. So I don't know what it is I should be facing, according to > you, wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > Internet argument poker: "I'll see your supposed expert > (Maharishi) and raise you two Robin posts. Now go do your > remedial reading of the Robinsez Sutras so that you're > worthy of arguing with me about a subject that neither > of

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread Ann
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > Doc, > > > What a nice [first person] account. It's quite charitable > > > and also reads lik

[FairfieldLife] MUM Student Jason Aviles talks about Transcendental Meditation

2013-03-05 Thread merlin
MUM Student Jason Aviles talks about Transcendental Meditation   ABSOLUTELY GREAT CLIP ~ I LIKE IT :-)) .*... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap9CK52koxQ *

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread doctordumbass
"But is it really real, or is it merely a mere change of perception? Unity is said to be such that, unlike other states of consciousness, one CAN affect external reality because external and internal really ARE the same." It is quite a spectrum of experience to close the gap between external and

[FairfieldLife] Katy Perry on Transcendental Meditation

2013-03-05 Thread merlin
A message from Katy Perry on Transcendental Meditation >>> *** http://www.davidlynchfoundation.org/katyperry/ ~

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread doctordumbass
Thanks. The quote by the first director is a hoot! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > Doc, > What a nice [first person] account. It's quite charitable and also reads > like an invitation. Thanks Doc, this should be dragged over to the current > parallel FFL atheist threa

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" dhamiltony2k5@ wrote: > > > > Doc, > > What a nice [first person] account. It's quite charitable > > and also reads like an invitation. Thanks Doc, this should > > be dragged over to the curre

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread doctordumbass
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > Doc, > > What a nice [first person] account. It's quite charitable > > and also reads like an invitation. Thanks Doc, this should > > be dragged over to the current paralle

[FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi

2013-03-05 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > Doc, > What a nice [first person] account. It's quite charitable > and also reads like an invitation. Thanks Doc, this should > be dragged over to the current parallel FFL atheist thread > too where the atheistic sophists are splitting e

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