[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-25 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And to be caught up in revulsion towards your own genitals is even stranger. I find it very revealing that many in the TMO refer to the genitals as if they are something out there, and the phrase is usually accompanied

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-25 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] but eventually, she whittled him down to a size that she could handle and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-24 Thread Cliff
Or wake up and realize that this segregation is just another method of control. Humans are essentially very sexy creatures - shutting off one of the greatest sources of spiritual development and inner power is a very effective way to exert control. This is seen both in the sexual yes / no that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-24 Thread Cliff
And to be caught up in revulsion towards your own genitals is even stranger. I find it very revealing that many in the TMO refer to the genitals as if they are something out there, and the phrase is usually accompanied with body language of distinct distaste. Sort of on the same level as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To revile an essential part of your body is remarkably foolsih, IMO, and unfortunately very widespread in the TMO. So much revulsion over such a long period of time cannot be healthy. --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And no-one asked about the old Native American tale about Long- Cock Man and Tooth-Vagina Woman... Tell us, O Sparaig, about Long-Cock Man and Tooth-Vagina woman. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And no-one asked about the old Native American tale about Long- Cock Man and Tooth-Vagina Woman... Tell us, O Sparaig, about Long-Cock Man

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And no-one asked about the old Native American tale about Long-

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-24 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] but eventually, she whittled him down to a size that she could handle and he knocked out all her teeth. They lived happily ever after... ROTFL!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-24 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] but eventually, she whittled him down to a size that she could handle and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-24 Thread anonymousff
Maharishi was a master at creating conflict and guilt regading sex. He would come to men's courses and extol the virtues of celibacy then go to the ladies courses and talk about how they should be married. He would talk very very down to people who were in relationships. A dear friend of mine who

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-24 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maharishi was a master at creating conflict and guilt regading sex. He would come to men's courses and extol the virtues of celibacy then go to the ladies courses and talk about how they should be married. He would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-24 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip And no-one asked about the old Native American tale about Long-

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they only have one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Or - put on a burka. Ingegerd Good one! I've always wondered why so many spiritual movements give such power to the penis and vagina. They don't bite, do they? To be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The teaching is becoming purer end purer. The recertified TM- Teachers,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Ingegerd
What is the official price in Norway? Good followup helps to keep people going when their experience changes. Takes empathy. JohnY The official price is 2.500 Dollar. The TMO has one TM-Center - a combination of Ayur-Vedic Clinic and Academy - where people comes for Pancha-Karma, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the official price in Norway? Good followup helps to keep people going when their experience changes. Takes empathy. JohnY The official price is 2.500 Dollar. The TMO has one TM-Center - a combination

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the official price in Norway? Good followup helps to keep people going when their experience changes. Takes empathy. JohnY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the official price in Norway? Good followup helps to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip From time to time the idea gets floated that independants should form an alternate organization, focused only on maintaining teaching standards. That is, it would be concerned only with the instructional

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip From time to time the idea gets floated that independants should form an alternate organization, focused only on maintaining teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know, MMY loves to oversee all the little details of everything and he loves to micro-manage organisations...perhaps he wouldn't be able to pass up the opportunity to micro-manage an organisation that Ex-TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know, MMY loves to oversee all the little details of everything and he loves to micro-manage organisations...perhaps he wouldn't

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread Rory Goff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip You know, MMY loves to oversee all the little details

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip From time to time the idea gets floated that independants should form an alternate organization, focused only on maintaining teaching

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers): PS

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was common knowledge among students that manadatory attendance at the Dome diminished enthusiasm for attendance. Your argument that a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers): PS

2005-07-23 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was common knowledge among students that manadatory attendance

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers): PS

2005-07-23 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The beauty of this teaching, as I understood it when I became a teacher, was that it was not necessary for anyone to obsess about what constitutes optimal conditions for practice. Those things had been worked out,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [...] Good one! I've always wondered why so many spiritual movements give such power to the penis and vagina. They don't bite, do they? To be in bondage to the genitals is such a strange thing! Let me tell you the old Native American

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the official price in Norway? Good followup helps to keep people going when their experience changes. Takes empathy. JohnY

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers): PS

2005-07-23 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The beauty of this teaching, as I understood it when I became a teacher, was that it was not necessary for anyone to obsess about what

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto to the posts below -- MMY can do whatever he wants with his org. and I don't know anyone whining because they can't do other

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread jyouells2000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was common knowledge among students that manadatory attendance at the Dome diminished enthusiasm for attendance. When was attendance NOT mandatory? Your argument that a good kick in the backside somehow will

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers): PS

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was common knowledge among students that manadatory

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [...] I always see the ultimate purity of the teaching as based in the enlivenment of pure consciousness in the followers. Look at the holy tradition. What links these guys is not specific practices, but the enlivenment of consciousness.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The teaching is becoming purer end purer. The recertified TM- Teachers, who is men, can only teach men and recert. TM-Teachers that are women can only teach women. In WPA-Courses and week-end- courses, during

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jyouells2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The teaching is becoming purer end purer. The recertified TM- Teachers, who is men, can only teach men and recert. TM-Teachers that are women

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they only have one dining hall who gets to eat first? That's the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: anyone complaining that a few people can't go to the dome is childish and laughable. ... Maharishi doesn't want other pactices in the Dome and that is his choice. People

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread markmeredith2002
Ditto to the posts below -- MMY can do whatever he wants with his org. and I don't know anyone whining because they can't do other techniques in the dome, which is not what the banning is about anyway. We're having a discussion to explain to ourselves why an org we've devoted so much of our lives

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto to the posts below -- MMY can do whatever he wants with his org. and I don't know anyone whining because they can't do other techniques in the dome, which is not what the banning is about anyway. That's

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread Llundrub
When Charlie Lutes used to tour Iowa City it was always talked about with baited breath. - Original Message - From: markmeredith2002 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:14 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: I think you need to answer the question I asked several posts back about keeping the purity of the teaching. Yes, this is the Big Question. Around here, people seem to have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] These paths don't fear comparison to others, because they know that they will fare well in that comparison. Why is it that TM fears the same comparison? TM doesn't fear anything. BTW, if a technique is as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread L B Shriver
It was common knowledge among students that manadatory attendance at the Dome diminished enthusiasm for attendance. Your argument that a good kick in the backside somehow will increase the positivity in students' attitudes towards group program no doubt reflects the thinking of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If the pure technique you wish to protect were doing its job and offering its

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers): PS

2005-07-22 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was common knowledge among students that manadatory attendance at the Dome diminished enthusiasm for attendance. Your argument that a good kick in the backside somehow will increase the positivity in students'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] --- One response that I did not list in my earlier post might be this: 5. I cannot say what is ultimate truth, nor will I take the word of others for what is truth. Hence I cannot say whether the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly is purity of the teaching? Go to see 5 different Maharishi Jyotishis and you'll get 5 different readings using 5 different approaches, but if a jyotishi trained at maharishi jyotish courses and using

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One response that I did not list in my earlier post might be this: 5. I cannot say what is ultimate truth, nor will I take the word of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers): PS

2005-07-22 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, L B Shriver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was common knowledge among students that manadatory attendance at the Dome diminished enthusiasm for attendance. Your argument that a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: L B Shriver wrote: The Knowledge have actually been compromised by the University. For example, the principle of innocence in practice— absolutely foundational as far as I'm concerned—was completely

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly is purity of the teaching? Go to see 5 different Maharishi Jyotishis and you'll get 5 different readings using 5 different approaches, but if a jyotishi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Patrick Gillam To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers) L B Shriver

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
The teaching is becoming purer end purer. The recertified TM- Teachers, who is men, can only teach men and recert. TM-Teachers that are women can only teach women. In WPA-Courses and week-end- courses, during lecture-time - men and women is separeted. I do not know if they can use same

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread Llundrub
If they only have one dining hall who gets to eat first? - Original Message - From: Ingegerd To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 12:33 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers) The teaching is becoming purer end purer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they only have one dining hall who gets to eat first? That's the question. Ingegerd The teaching is becoming purer end purer. The recertified TM- Teachers, who is men, can only teach men and recert. TM-Teachers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The teaching is becoming purer end purer ...except for the Indies, of course. Hopefully they will police themselves sensibly. Certainly in the UK MMY has kicked the the door open. An own goal? Uns. To subscribe, send

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Patrick Gillam To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they only have one dining hall who gets to eat first? And who gets to digest, as opposed to having one's intake turn into icky shit? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they only have one dining hall who gets to eat first? And who gets to digest, as opposed to having one's intake turn into icky shit? Eww,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-22 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto to the posts below -- MMY can do whatever he wants with his org. and I don't know anyone whining because they can't do other techniques in the dome, But your ARE still whining about it. My God.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: I think you need to answer the question I asked several posts back about keeping the purity of the teaching. Yes, this is the Big Question. Around here, people seem to have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: I think you need to answer the question I asked several posts back about keeping the purity of the teaching. Yes, this is the Big Question. Around here, people seem to have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If the pure technique you wish to protect were doing its job and offering its practitioners a suitable pace of spiritual growth, how many people would be even *interested* in seeing other teachers? Suitable pace by

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip If the pure technique you wish to protect were doing its job and offering its practitioners a suitable pace of spiritual growth, how many people would be even

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread Patrick Gillam
off_world_beings wrote: I think you need to answer the question I asked several posts back about keeping the purity of the teaching. Patrick Gillam wrote: Yes, this is the Big Question. Around here, people seem to have answered it in a number of ways: Judy Stein

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread markmeredith2002
What exactly is purity of the teaching? Go to see 5 different Maharishi Jyotishis and you'll get 5 different readings using 5 different approaches, but if a jyotishi trained at maharishi jyotish courses and using his training faithfully decides to stop giving the right % of his revenues to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One response that I did not list in my earlier post might be this: 5. I cannot say what is ultimate truth, nor will I take the word of others for what is truth. Hence I cannot say whether the purity of TM is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread TurquoiseB
If the pure technique you wish to protect were doing its job and offering its practitioners a suitable pace of spiritual growth, how many people would be even *interested* in seeing other teachers? Suitable pace by whose standard? Who decides what is and is not suitable, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread L B Shriver
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What exactly is purity of the teaching? Go to see 5 different Maharishi Jyotishis and you'll get 5 different readings using 5 different approaches, but if a jyotishi trained at maharishi jyotish courses and using

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If the pure technique you wish to protect were doing its job and offering its practitioners a suitable pace of spiritual growth, how many people would be even *interested* in seeing other teachers?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread Patrick Gillam
L B Shriver wrote: The Knowledge have actually been compromised by the University. For example, the principle of innocence in practice— absolutely foundational as far as I'm concerned—was completely trashed by the practice of grading students on their performance in the Domes, where

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread Llundrub
- Original Message - From: Patrick Gillam To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers) L B Shriver wrote: The Knowledge have actually been compromised by the University

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread Robert Gimbel
---I agree with you: seems like you have to push the personal envelope, and get out of the ego to experience Unity... Another way to think of it, is that we all have to find our own Christ Consciousness or Maharishi Consciousness or Buddah Consciousness and so on...in order to complete our

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread feste37
On the face of it, LB's argument looks unanswerable. But from what I remember of students in the dome (not all of them) is that there was a lot of sheer laziness and dopiness around. What some of them needed was a good kick in the backside and a reminder to actually do the practice. In my

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Patrick Gillam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: off_world_beings wrote: I think you need to answer the question I asked several posts back about keeping the purity of the teaching. Yes, this is the Big Question. Around here, people seem to have

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread Jason Spock
--OriginalMessage- From: "Llundrub" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:07:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers) L B Shriver wrote: The Knowledge have actually been compromised by the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Patrick Gillam To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:26 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers) L B Shriver

[FairfieldLife] Re: Purity of the teaching (was Honest answers)

2005-07-21 Thread Patrick Gillam
off_world_beings wrote: anyone complaining that a few people can't go to the dome is childish and laughable. ... Maharishi doesn't want other pactices in the Dome and that is his choice. People should get over it Oh, no question -- how Maharishi wants to run his organization is his