doctordumbass:
A poignant example of this, related to me by at least
half a different spiritual teachers from traditions
other than TM...
*How* many??
snip
Spiritual teachers which shall remain unnamed. Go figure.
A guy like Uncle Tantra probably doesn't have much time
to study with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sharalyn homeonthefarm@... wrote:
To whoever wrote this:
you are an idiot - I did TM for 20 years, twice a day, every day - it took
me that long to realize it wasn't the only game in town - stupid me.
Stupid?
I came to FFL today to ask a
It may be that techniques have a certain life span in this spiritual business.
If you get one too early, it won't work. If you use one for a long time, it
might come to a natural interruption; you stop, then start again later. It
might come to a natural end. For example, with TM, you sometimes
From: nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 1:37 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Doc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
It drives Barry stark
.
From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and navashok
Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
(snip)
...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and navashok
Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
Navashok, just to say again, there is a checking
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
(snip)
OTOH, I have used many non sanskrit mantras, for example
Hebrew words, or the most clear example are the Siddhis,
which are simply English words,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
(snip)
OTOH, I have used many non sanskrit mantras, for example
Hebrew words, or the
when you return? (-:
From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and navashok
Â
--- In FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
[snip]
Subject: Sorli fra Bulandi passes
Dear Baddi,
I do hope this letter finds you and your family well and thriving in
beautiful Iceland. We have so many happy memories and connections of the
heart there!
I
Hey Sharalyn,
Como sa va. Nice piece, but I do have one question.
How much of what you describe below could just be attributed to life? I
mean time is a healer. I am not doubting the progression you outline,
but part of the aging process is more wisdom and maturity which could
open the door for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
It drives Barry stark staring BONKERS that DrD doesn't
give a rusty nail whether anyone believes he's enlightened.
What is much worse for the Turq than the idea of the big E is that it comes
from practise
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
For Buck and Sorli:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YcTaflDPFk
Subject: Sorli fra Bulandi passes
Dear Baddi,
I do hope this letter finds you and your family well and thriving in
beautiful Iceland. We have so many
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if there are any, in
his mind);
2) he deemed them to be suitable for householders;
Since TM mantras are for householders, are
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:
All I know is this:
I am not a meditator by nature. I like to do things, run around, play, get
dirty, eat, be competitive at sports, read. The list goes on. What I believe
MMY was brilliant at was to appeal to others like
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
All I know is this:
I am not a meditator by nature. I like to do things, run around, play, get
dirty, eat, be competitive at sports, read. The list
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if
there are any, in his mind);
2) he deemed them to be
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
1) they are not om or some other
...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann wrote:
All I know is this:
I am
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
More to the point, if TM practitioners committed to
Maharishi's Purusha or Mother Divine programs, and
thus chose to effectively becomes monks or recluses,
were they re-initiated using a more appropriate
recluse mantra?
I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from
my point of view, falling prey to one of the most
chronic TM fallacies. People repeat stuff they
Really? I had not heard of Marshy giving out ram as the original TM mantra
before - that is interesting.
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 6:06 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from
my point of view, falling prey
The only people I see repeating what they were TOLD are you and MJ, repeating
over and over again, what you TELL yourselves. The thing you haven't recognized
about TM, *since you don't do it*, is that the practice keeps you moving.
TM is not the static believerism you make it out to be. You
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@ wrote:
All MMY
proclivities.
From: seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
More
A poignant example of this, related to me by at least
half a different spiritual teachers from traditions
other than TM...
*How* many??
snip
, March 6, 2013 9:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
The only people I see repeating what they were TOLD are you and MJ, repeating
over and over again, what you TELL yourselves. The thing you haven't recognized
about TM, *since you don't do
, not something anyone said. Â
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From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
.
From: doctordumb...@rocketmail.com doctordumb...@rocketmail.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
snip
TM is not the static believerism you make it out to be. You
seekliberat...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
More to the point, if TM practitioners committed to
Maharishi's Purusha or Mother Divine
@... doctordumbass@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Â
snip
TM is not the static believerism you make it out to be. You have NO IDEA
about the techniques' long term effects because you
transformed a few times in my life, not through meditation, but through
being destroyed.
From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 4:49 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Â
6, 2013 7:24 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig wrote:
All MMY claimed about TM mantras
@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 8:04 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Â
snip
TM is not the static believerism you make it out to be. You have NO IDEA
about the techniques' long term effects because you quit doing
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
you are an idiot -
And you're our FFL bully. What will happen to you is the same as what happens
to all bullies in time, the are left empty-handed.
: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Thank you, Navashok!
You post has actually answered my questions about mantras. In my opinion, the
fact that there is no sort of checking for sidhis means the idea that the
meaningless sound
:28 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
More to the point, if TM practitioners committed to
Maharishi's Purusha or Mother Divine programs, and
thus chose to effectively becomes monks or recluses
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:32 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael
There ABSOLUTELY is a checking for TMSP
On 03/06/2013 05:50 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
My point is that a lot of these discussions are, from
@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:21 AM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:32 AM
To: FairfieldLife
that for
a while now but I have my theories and won't bore anyone with them right
now.
From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 7:24 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Â
snip
TM is not the static believerism you make it out to be. You have NO IDEA
about the techniques' long term effects because you quit doing it, decades
ago.
snip
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
Yes, with practice, TMSP leads to near perfect mental/physical integration.
Catchy little soundbite, but what does it actually mean?
I was confirming what Share was talking about. It means a much shorter distance
in general between desire, and fulfillment of same.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
Yes,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
Yes, with practice, TMSP leads to near perfect mental/
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
I was confirming what Share was talking about. It means a much shorter
distance in general between desire, and fulfillment of same.
And how does one go about measuring it?
Or is it one of the many promises I came
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:
Actually I think it's proof that TM is not a cult, the fact that someone like
me goes to the Dome every day twice a day and wisely seeks out whatever
healing modalities I think I need.
I donât know about current
@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:21 AM
Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Michael
Â
Â
From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Share Long
Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 10:32 AM
No - don't BS yourself. It is simply a relative measurement of how well your
desires have been fulfilled in the past, vs. now. If mind/body coordination is
increasing, then YF is working, and desires are fulfilled more quickly.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808
Man, you have a very, very poor memory, Turq (as if that's a surprise). My
insistence on my enlightenment, CC at the time, was as a demonstration that
enlightenment was possible for anyone, and not the pie in the sky unobtainable
state that you and your now absent fair weather friends insisted
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
(snip)
And if you are interested in challenging their supposed
truth or value. In my experience, it's these core or
*never challenged* beliefs that persist the longest, and
are toughest to either recognize or challenge.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@... wrote:
(snip)
OTOH, I have used many non sanskrit mantras, for example
Hebrew words, or the most clear example are the Siddhis,
which are simply English words, Inner Light for example.
So, all of the TM logic about why TM is so
when you return?
(-:
From: navashok no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and navashok
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
Thank you, Navashok!
He doesn't deserve your thanks unless you're grateful to
be handed a great big pile of garbage.
You post has actually answered my questions about mantras.
In my opinion, the fact that there is no
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@
I know!! Every time he trots it out, because of his own confusion and
superstition around the idea of enlightenment, he thinks he is being shocking
and confrontational, as if he is asking me about a past cross dressing episode
or something!
He SO wants to be the arbiter of enlightenment,
To whoever wrote this:
you are an idiot - I did TM for 20 years, twice a day, every day - it took me
that long to realize it wasn't the only game in town - stupid me.
Stupid?
I came to FFL today to ask a specific question and then get back out again, but
it was unavoidable to see a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sharalyn homeonthefarm@... wrote:
To whoever wrote this:
you are an idiot - I did TM for 20 years, twice a day, every day - it took
me that long to realize it wasn't the only game in town - stupid me.
Stupid?
I came to FFL today to
I assume you may be talking about me here. No problem. What was the
type of meditation practiced with Rama that provided such profound
experiences? Was it an effortless meditation, or one that involved
effort?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
And if
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... no_reply@... wrote:
I know!! Every time he trots it out, because of his own confusion and
superstition around the idea of enlightenment, he thinks he is being shocking
and confrontational, as if he is asking me about a past cross
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
I know!! Every time he trots it out, because of his own confusion and
superstition around the idea of enlightenment, he thinks he is being
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
wrote:
Also I will add that Buck made me think of something with his
mention
of the many healers and other spiritual practitioners in Fairfield. If
TM is so
6, 2013 5:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders to Rick and
navashok
Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long wrote:
Navashok, just to say again, there is a checking for TMSP.ÃÂ
Okay Share, just to let you know that I have seen this. I'm going out
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
I know!! Every time he trots it out, because of his own confusion and
superstition
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
I know!! Every time he trots it out, because of his own confusion and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ no_reply@ wrote:
I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck dhamiltony2k5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ann awoelflebater@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Buck wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
I believe that we are all Pure Awareness, or something like that, Unbounded
Awareness whatever you call it. I believe the reason we can transcend is we
are naturally that state, or energy. That is our essence.
We
They are superior in that if you pay for them, it fills up the TMO's pockets
with more money. More money = Superior.
seekliberation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
My question is, if the TM mantras are superior, how are they superior?
All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if there are any, in his
mind);
2) he deemed them to be suitable for householders;
3) some mantras were more suitable for some people than than others, and he
chose a simple set that was reasonably
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
All MMY claimed about TM mantras was:
1) they are not om or some other monk-oriented mantra (if there are any, in his
mind);
2) he deemed them to be suitable
Natural effortlessness.
From: Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Oh come
.
From: Michael Jackson mjackson74@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Â
Oh come on - Marshy always said TM was better than other
: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon wrote:
Natural effortlessness.
Bingo. Or more precisely, the specific instructional
method Maharishi created (right down to the instruction
to Sit easily rather than Relax at the start
?
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Correct, the actual instructions on meditation are simply like taking the
correct
.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:08 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Â
Correct, the actual instructions on meditation are simply like taking
5:05 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
But you don't need TM to do that
TM makes it very easy and systematic. The instructions
are designed to keep you from getting in your own way.
- so what about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
Its not about wanting to hear anything in particular, its
about wanting to hear something CREDIBLE.
Michael, the list of things you're willing to find
CREDIBLE is nonexistent in this case.
I didn't think there would
: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
But you don't need TM to do that - so what about TM mantras are special? Cuz if
it isn't the mantras, you can't seriously think the simple instructions given
in the checking notes for example
.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
I'm not sure M ever said the mantras he gave were *superior
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@ wrote:
Okay, not superior but better - he absolutely said many times
that TM was the best meditation to do.
For householders, that is.
I wish
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Okay, not superior but better - he absolutely said many times that TM was the
best meditation to do. I wish some other TM teachers here would weigh in on
this and explain to me how the instructions which are not much different than
Well said.
From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 4:36 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
--- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, authfriend wrote
nothing else like it available at the time??? What the hell do you think the
Indians did back then?
From: feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:36 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM
meditation, other than that Marshy said so.
From: Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
By the way, M
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend authfriend@ wrote:
snip
What Maharishi did, IMHO, was to think deeply
about the nature of intention, of mental effort,
and how easy it was for instruction to lead the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
You are repeating TM propaganda crap, as if the only other
techniques are concentration and you know that is not true.
That's not his point. The point is that *any* effort
impedes transcending. Even TMers who think
: Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Question for TM Cheerleaders
Â
I'm not sure M ever said the mantras he gave were *superior*. It's the
naturalness
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson mjackson74@... wrote:
I believe that we are all Pure Awareness, or something like that, Unbounded
Awareness whatever you call it. I believe the reason we can transcend is we
are naturally that state, or energy. That is our essence.
yeah well that's part of the problem, putting your enlightenment in someone
else's hands
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I'm not sure M ever said the mantras he gave were *superior*. It's the
naturalness and effortlessness of the technique that is superior. It
goes by it's self. There's no concentrating
others. If not, what would then make TM better than other meditations?
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All MMY
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Oh come on - Marshy always said TM
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
You are repeating TM propaganda crap, as if the only other
techniques are concentration and you know that is not true.
That's not his point
for saying meditation should
be easy.
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Perfect! And one has to remember that some of the effortless forms of
meditation now
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You are repeating TM
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Okay, not superior but better
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