[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: You already know the answer my dear--so why are you asking? Well, Vaj, as I said, I forget. Based on the things you say about TM, it appears you never have. Is that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread Llundrub
person again and again one begins to wonder why one answered in the first place. Yes I was initiated into TM© Judy way back in 1974...I was 15 at the time...TTC not until the early 80's...I'm sorry to hear that. If you did in fact everlearn and practice TM, you're the poster boy forthe

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --Actually, until you have taken Dzogchen teachings you really can't speak on effortlessness, surrender, or simplicity. Actually, as should be obvious, one *can* speak about such things, and even sound somewhat

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread Vaj
On Jul 8, 2005, at 12:51 AM, Jeff Fischer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Scientologists take note An equal opportunity insult... Yeah, I feel honored to be included

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread Vaj
On Jul 8, 2005, at 2:10 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Let it go, Vaj. World troubles bring out the stalker in some people. Yeah, you're right... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: You already know the answer my dear--so why are you asking? Well, Vaj, as I said, I forget.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: person again and again one begins to wonder why one answered in the first place. Yes I was initiated into TM© Judy way back in 1974...I was 15 at the time...TTC not until the early 80's... I'm sorry to hear

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 8, 2005, at 12:51 AM, Jeff Fischer wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Scientologists take

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread Vaj
On Jul 8, 2005, at 4:45 PM, sparaig wrote: In other words, the TM technique, checking procedures, AND the experimental techniques to study the TM technique are quite consistent with the theory that MMY uses to explain TM, so even though you object to everything about TM, there's no

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-08 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 8, 2005, at 4:45 PM, sparaig wrote: In other words, the TM technique, checking procedures, AND the experimental techniques to study the TM technique are quite consistent with the theory that MMY uses to explain

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can the events in London with so many people dead and so many suffering such terrible injuries be possibly thought of as unprecedented nature support How on earth could these posts have heading so lacking in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread chandashari
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can the events in London with so many people dead and so many suffering such terrible injuries be possibly thought of as unprecedented

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sramanist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can the events in London with so many people dead and so many suffering such terrible injuries be possibly thought of as unprecedented

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip That only 33 people have died is quite remarkable. MSNBC now reporting 37 dead, more than 700 injured. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread shukra69
I really can't imagine how this incident can do anything but enhance MMY's credibility. To imagine otherwise requires some torture to logic. I was dissappointed to see that there wasn't more done to take care of the UK people who devoted so much to the movement there. However this incident

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread claudiouk
MMY's withdrawal from the UK has had little impact on the number of initiations - there were hardly any before - nor on the numbers of yogic flyers - 99.% are still doing it in the country, as they have nowhere else to go. So it is not a change in the critical mass for the Maharishi Effect

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really can't imagine how this incident can do anything but enhance MMY's credibility. What, do you have shit for brains or something? That is one of the most stupid things that has ever been posted here. 37 people are killed in a bomb blast and this

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY's withdrawal from the UK has had little impact on the number of initiations - there were hardly any before - nor on the numbers of yogic flyers - 99.% are still doing it in the country, Group practice at

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really can't imagine how this incident can do anything but enhance MMY's credibility. What, do you have shit for brains or something? That is one of the most stupid

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The heading of the post is sarcastic and a reflection of the possible maddness the TMO could express regarding these bombings. Nobody of sound mind considers these bombings to be a sign of something good... You

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2005, at 12:30 PM, uns_tressor wrote: TM is still be best meditation technique available. Uns. Wow, you must have learned and practiced many different styles of meditation to be able to make that conclusion! How many have you practiced? Which ones? To subscribe, send a message

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 12:30 PM, uns_tressor wrote: TM is still be best meditation technique available. Uns. Wow, you must have learned and practiced many different styles of meditation to be able to make that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2005, at 4:48 PM, uns_tressor wrote: I will tell you. Today is just the day to deal with your brand of truculent sarcasm: I ask people who run other techniques what they do if someone comes to them saying that the technique was good, but has stopped working. i.e. What is

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really can't imagine how this incident can do anything but enhance MMY's credibility. What, do you have shit for brains or something? That is one of the most stupid

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread feste37
MMY must be a very cruel man if what this poster says is true. MMY knew, according to this logic, what might happen if he closed the UK movement down, and yet he did it anyway. How this is supposed to enhance his credibility is beyond me. I would say it shows someone with very low moral

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Premanand Paul Mason
Thank you for your intelligent, restrained and considered response. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY's withdrawal from the UK has had little impact on the number of initiations - there were hardly any before - nor on the numbers of yogic flyers

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really can't imagine how this incident can do anything but enhance MMY's credibility.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really can't imagine how this incident can do anything but enhance MMY's credibility.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remote viewed London, and I know for a fact that MMY had nothing to do with the bombings. As it happens, the loss of Nature Support lies solely with one Manubhai X. Patel of Neasden, who last night, instead of going

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ask people who run other techniques what they do if someone comes to them saying that the technique was good, but has stopped working. i.e. What is their checking procedure. They all cough and splutter and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread uns_tressor
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I ask people who run other techniques what they do if someone comes to them saying that the technique was good, but has stopped

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Bhairitu
uns_tressor wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 12:30 PM, uns_tressor wrote: TM is still be best meditation technique available. Uns. Wow, you must have learned and practiced many different styles of meditation to be

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: MMY must be a very cruel man if what this poster says is true. MMY knew, according to this logic, what might happen if he closed the UK movement down, and yet he did it anyway. How this is supposed to enhance his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Peter Sutphen
--- uns_tressor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 12:30 PM, uns_tressor wrote: TM is still be best meditation technique available. Uns. Wow, you must have learned and practiced many

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2005, at 4:57 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: I understand your response, but just to provide a different perspective, the possibility of the tech- nique stopping working is IMO inextricably bound to the nature of the TM technique; that is, effort- lessness. If, say, one were practicing a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think one should also consider that when you are taught a method like Vipassana, for example, for ten strict days in a boundaried retreat setting, being given a wealth of methods to counter all the obstacles that can

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Peter Sutphen
Shukra, you're a hopeless cultist and the worst the TMO offers to the world. --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I really can't imagine how this incident can do

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:04 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think one should also consider that when you are taught a method like Vipassana, for example, for ten strict days in a boundaried retreat setting, being given a wealth of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:04 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think one should also consider that when you are taught a method like Vipassana, for example, for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: You already know the answer my dear--so why are you asking? Well, Vaj, as I said, I forget. Based on the things you say about TM, it appears you never have. Is that correct? You already know the answer--stop the game playing Judy. To

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: You already know the answer my dear--so why are you asking? Well, Vaj, as I said, I forget. Based on the things you say about TM, it appears you never have. Is that

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Vaj
On Jul 7, 2005, at 10:12 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: You already know the answer my dear--so why are you asking? Well, Vaj, as I said, I forget. Based on the things you say about

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 12:30 PM, uns_tressor wrote: TM is still be best meditation technique available. Uns. Wow, you must have learned and practiced many different styles of meditation to be able to make that

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Scientologists take note An equal opportunity insult... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 10:12 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:52 PM, authfriend wrote: You already know the answer my dear--so why are you

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread Jeff Fischer
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Scientologists take note An equal opportunity insult... Yeah, I feel honored to be included in Vaj's 1.1 comment. Jeff To subscribe, send

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm no longer a New Yorker, and I'm not in the Boston/Cambridge area either, haven't lived there since I got out of college back in '63. Whoa, so that would put you at about 60. I would have put you much

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I'm no longer a New Yorker, and I'm not in the Boston/Cambridge area either, haven't lived there since I got out of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shukra, you're a hopeless cultist I ascribe to non-TMO jyotish and Yagya so I'm not eligible to the TM cult and the worst the TMO I've never had an official position within the TMO,other than in a University club 25

[FairfieldLife] Re: Unprecedented Nature Support? -What travesty is this??

2005-07-07 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remote viewed London, and I know for a fact that MMY had nothing to do with the bombings. As it happens, the loss of Nature Support lies solely with one Manubhai X. Patel of Neasden, who last night, instead of