I agree fully with what you write below.
However that is not the perspective I want to bring forth here. It is
useful to look at complex issues from many perspectives.
If we can hold simultaneously many perspectives, we get closer to the
truth.
Irmeli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Irmeli, your question is right on the money. Hitler
was schooled in Le Bon's 1895 The Crowd: A Study of
the Popular Mind. It is still a good source for how
social engineering is done. Young Dove recently
posted an excellent rant on how easy it is to sway
the masses. It is the result of
I know, Irmeli. I've lived in China and in India--not
as a tourist. I actually lived in those places. But,
as you can see if you read my latest post to Willitex,
female American soldiers are raped by their comrades
in epidemic proportions. That tells you a lot about
the status of women in the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Irmeli, your question is right on the money. Hitler
was schooled in Le Bon's 1895 The Crowd: A Study of
the Popular Mind. It is still a good source for how
social engineering is done. Young Dove recently
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, do.rflex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson
Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz
hagen.j.holtz@ wrote:
Irmeli said:
Practically every time they (the
I agree with you and Hagen completely about what you
are seeing in the Muslim community in Europe. I have
no reason to doubt your experience. The disagreement
comes in blaming the Muslim religion for this state of
affairs. There is nothing in the religion per se that
brings about the things you
You might want to read the book, Murder in Amsterdam by Baruma, a Dutch
journalist
who has spent about 15years living in the US. AFter the murder of Theo Van
Gogh,
Baruma decided to return to Amsterdam and see just what was going on. The
influx of
Muslims and all the problems you talk about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson
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Hi Angela!
I also know personally some Muslims or former Muslims, who have come
as refugees to Finland, and they are truly fine people. E.g. I have
learned to know a conductor from Afghanistan, to whom I'm hiring
Who's we, white man?
We think we don't hold slaves only because we don't
understand that a sweat shop in China is tantamount to
slavery. When China tried, recently, once again, to
do something about it, American corporate interests
blocked their efforts completely --in a kind of
non-military
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
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snip We have made some token progress with regard to the
status of women, but you see how easily our Purusha
men forgot all about that. Last time I taught at a
university in the States, I got $10,000 less per year
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
snip We have made some token progress with regard to the
status of women, but you see how easily our Purusha
men forgot all about that.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson
Irmeli.Mattsson@ wrote:
Hi Angela!
I also know personally some Muslims or former Muslims, who have come
as refugees to Finland, and they are truly fine people.
Hi Angela!
At least you can have that kind of job. You can choose your husband,
and divorce him, if he treats you badly.If a man rapes you, you are
not made guilty for it, and being killed by your family members
because of this crime.
Women's position may not be perfect in the west either, but it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You must have some very different Muslims in Europe
than the ones I have met here. In 1982 I taught a
very unusual class of ESL at Kent State University.
All 25 guys from Muslim and Arabic speaking countries.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Irmeli said:
Practically every time they (the nuslims) publicly say
something, they make themselves just ridiculous, and show that their
capacity to formal operational thinking, or abstract conceptual
thinking,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Irmeli Mattsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz
hagen.j.holtz@ wrote:
Irmeli said:
Practically every time they (the nuslims) publicly say
something, they make themselves just ridiculous, and show that
All human beings are the same. They all have the same emotions. All
laugh when happy and weep when sad. There are no broad civilizations
that produce radically different behavior in human beings.
---This all beings is the same thing overlooks individual propensities.
There was an interesting
Yes, Irmeli, I have discussed female mutilation with
these gentlemen. They are no longer young. Let's
see, they were in their early twenties in 1982, so
they are now pushing fifty. They are all intelligent,
kind, and spiritually inclined men who appear to
respect women. At least, they respect
Hi Angela!
I also know personally some Muslims or former Muslims, who have come
as refugees to Finland, and they are truly fine people. E.g. I have
learned to know a conductor from Afghanistan, to whom I'm hiring an
apartment. I don't perceive any serious defects in his reasoning.
During the
Irmeli said:
Practically every time they (the nuslims) publicly say
something, they make themselves just ridiculous, and show that their
capacity to formal operational thinking, or abstract conceptual
thinking, is poor. They combine categories in a wrong way all the
time. And this is not about
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hagen J. Holtz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Irmeli said:
Practically every time they (the nuslims) publicly say
something, they make themselves just ridiculous, and show that
their capacity to formal operational thinking, or abstract
conceptual
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
The parallel I would draw is to those who hold to
Vedic ideals so strongly that they would insist
on maintaining the caste system, even in a country
that not only doesn't believe in it, but has made
some of its
On Mar 3, 2008, at 8:22 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
The cases I'm aware of were all *lost*
by those hoping to uphold their right to pursue
the caste system in America, but they continued to
do it after paying the first fine. My friends in
New York who have to do business with these people
say that
You must have some very different Muslims in Europe
than the ones I have met here. In 1982 I taught a
very unusual class of ESL at Kent State University.
All 25 guys from Muslim and Arabic speaking countries.
They were an amazing bunch of young gentlemen, and
the only classes I've ever taught
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You must have some very different Muslims in Europe
than the ones I have met here. In 1982 I taught a
very unusual class of ESL at Kent State University.
All 25 guys from Muslim and Arabic speaking countries.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
You must have some very different Muslims in Europe
than the ones I have met here. In 1982 I taught a
very unusual class of ESL at Kent
TurquoiseB wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Stu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:
You must have some very different Muslims in Europe
than the ones I have met here. In 1982 I taught a
very unusual
Well, it's certainly possible that some of my very
nice students later became vicious Muslim hit men, but
the guys I still correspond with are intelligent and
spiritual men with families. And they do not believe,
for example, that all Americans are as evil as the
Blackwater guys seem to be. a
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