[FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To truly understand what this means, you should get an authentic > teacher to explain the rather detailed commentary of the secrets in > this passage contained in the yoga-siddhanta-chandrika. The comments > on this sutr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mercimy wife gave me a cool Craftsman tool chest > w/ the pull-out drawers for my B-day I always wondered what it was like to have a Craftmatic bed... > > --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In F

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 11/21/05 8:48 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I for one have at least one expectation: when enlightened I don't > > want to feel shitty. > > What if you get the flu, or cancer? > Then I expec

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy writes: > I *do* have an expectation of how it is *not* supposed > to be--i.e., like ignorance. > > Tom T comments: > I thought I was being clear that any expectation is that an > expecta

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread Peter
Mercimy wife gave me a cool Craftsman tool chest w/ the pull-out drawers for my B-day --- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Todays my birthday. I was born 52 years ago. Holy > Cow! > > Happy happy joy j

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-21 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 11/21/05 8:48 PM, shempmcgurk at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I for one have at least one expectation: when > enlightened I don't > > want to feel shitty. > > What if you get the flu, or cancer? Before enlightenment, flu, cancer, feeling s

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-21 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Judy writes: I *do* have an expectation of how it is *not* supposed to be--i.e., like ignorance. Tom T comments: I thought I was being clear that any expectation is that an expectation. So to have an expectation of what it is *not* supposed to be ie like ignorance leads to the question of who defi

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In > FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Judy Stein writes: snipped > > Or to put it another way: It's not that I have > > expectations of wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may be more enlightened than you think..

2005-11-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > So it seems to me that I'm "judging"

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may be more enlightened than you think..

2005-11-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Dean Goodman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>I was looking at archived files and found this one pretty quickly. > >>I decided to post it again for everyone's enjoyment. It can be > >>found in the Fi

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may be more enlightened than you think..

2005-11-21 Thread Michael Dean Goodman
>> jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>I was looking at archived files and found this one pretty quickly. >>I decided to post it again for everyone's enjoyment. It can be >>found in the Files/FFLIndex.html section, or as message 4002, from >>Michael Dean Goodman. I have copied a [length

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-21 Thread Rick Archer
on 11/21/05 8:48 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I for one have at least one expectation: when enlightened I don't > want to feel shitty. What if you get the flu, or cancer? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favori

[FairfieldLife] Vatican Official Refutes Intelligent Design

2005-11-21 Thread Rick Archer
VATICAN OFFICIAL REFUTES INTELLIGENT DESIGN By Nicole Winfield Associated Press November 18, 2005 http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1103AP_Vatican_Evolution.html VATICAN CITY - The Vatican's chief astronomer said Friday that "intelligent design" isn't science and doesn't belong in science c

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy Stein writes: snipped > Or to put it another way: It's not that I have > expectations of what enlightenment is like; it's > that I expect it *not* to be like ignorance. > > Tom T comment

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy Stein writes: snipped > Or to put it another way: It's not that I have > expectations of what enlightenment is like; it's > that I expect it *not* to be like ignorance. > > Tom T comment

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may be more enlightened than you think..

2005-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > So it seems to me that I'm "judging" my state of > > consciousness by exactly the criterion Michael suggests-- > > not by flashy e

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
On Nov 21, 2005, at 6:43 PM, sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> On Nov 21, 2005, at 3:25 PM, sparaig wrote: >> >>> It sounds like a completely different form of meditation. TM and > the >>> breath suspension episodes during TC are genera

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-21 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Judy Stein writes: snipped Or to put it another way: It's not that I have expectations of what enlightenment is like; it's that I expect it *not* to be like ignorance. Tom T comment: Why do you want to have any expectation about how it is supposed to be. How do you know for sure how it is suppose

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 3:25 PM, sparaig wrote: > > > It sounds like a completely different form of meditation. TM and the > > breath suspension episodes during TC are generally associated with > > resting. In THIS study, "el

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread tazarmfune
> At one point, a meditation teacher claiming to be associated with Chopra told a.m.t. readers that CHopra and 200 former TM teachers had pooled their knowledge to come up with a valid form of meditation. > These days, Chopra claims he learned the meditation technique he teaches from "someone

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may be more enlightened than you think..

2005-11-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogro

Re: [FairfieldLife] dvaadashaanta?

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
It has several meanings and is elucidated in a number of texts. The most common meaning is the breath is at a level of subtlety that it is felt to extend twelve finger-widths from the nose (downwards). It also has another meaning referring to the "secret" flow of prana from the adhara-chakr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Todays my birthday. I was born 52 years ago. Holy Cow! Happy happy joy joy x 52... > I've got 32 years left and then off to a new body. > > > > __ > Yahoo! FareChase: S

[FairfieldLife] Re: When the student is ready the teacher will appear

2005-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At an MIU class on pulse twenty or so years ago, I was asked to feel > the pulse of the person sitting next to me, who had been instructed > to think the word "mangala," whose meaning I did not know at the > time. I al

Re: [FairfieldLife] Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
To truly understand what this means, you should get an authentic teacher to explain the rather detailed commentary of the secrets in this passage contained in the yoga-siddhanta-chandrika. The comments on this sutra also reveal why the correct route around the siddhis is contained in this s

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may be more enlightened than you think..

2005-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Put another way, it is that sense that there

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:19 PM, shempmcgur

[FairfieldLife] dvaadashaanta?

2005-11-21 Thread cardemaister
The first two sentences Bhoja's commentary on YS II 51 goe like this: praaNasya baahyo viSayo naasaa-dvaadashaantaadiH | aabhyantaro viSayo hRdaya-naabhi-cakraadiH | According to my dictionary the literal meaning of "viSaya" is "field of action". Using that meaning would give a translation somet

[FairfieldLife] Re: When the student is ready the teacher will appear

2005-11-21 Thread bbrigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bdadvaitin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Have been to Dr. John Douillard's website{Lifespa.com}and > > he has a tapes series on Pulse Diagnosis. Does anyone know >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
On Nov 21, 2005, at 3:27 PM, sparaig wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> On Nov 21, 2005, at 3:15 PM, sparaig wrote: >> > [...] http://www.noetic.org/research/medbiblio/ch1.htm >>> >>> ITs really hard to generalize from an art

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
On Nov 21, 2005, at 3:25 PM, sparaig wrote: > It sounds like a completely different form of meditation. TM and the > breath suspension episodes during TC are generally associated with > resting. In THIS study, "electrical activity during periods of > complete immobility though their heart rates a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread bluecabbagerose
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do have a problem with him creating and then selling his own brand > of TM which from all appearances he has done, particularly since I > have seen a quote from him at the time he left the movement that he > had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Happy Birthday, Peter! > > I want everybody to take off early on Wednesday and > have an extended weekend, in honor of Peter's > birthday. > > Also, those who like to fast on Thursdays should > celebrate Peter'

[FairfieldLife] Chopra and Meditation (was Re: Charlie Donahue)

2005-11-21 Thread anonymousff
An addendum to the last note: All of the information presented is about 10 years old, so it's not certain how much of it is still valid. However, 10 years ago, Dr. Simon said that they were using a puja, but not a guru puja. It might have been a puja to Lord Shiva or something like that. Dr. S

[FairfieldLife] Chopra and Meditation (was Re: Charlie Donahue)

2005-11-21 Thread anonymousff
Haven't been following this thread, so my apologies if what I have to say is redundant. Dr. David Simon is the doctor/former-TM governor who invited Dr. Chopra to La Jolla and who has worked with him in partnership since. Around 1994 or 1995, David Simon told a friend the following: When Dr. C

Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: [nhnenews] Pilgrims Flock To See Ram Bomjon, The 'Bud...

2005-11-21 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 11/21/05 1:18:53 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: PILGRIMS FLOCK TO SEE 'BUDDHA BOY' SAID TO HAVE FASTED SIX MONTHSBy Thomas Bell in Bara District, NepalThe Telegraph Photograph of the boy available on The Drudge ReportDRUDGE REPORT 2005®

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:19 PM, shempmcgurk

Re: [FairfieldLife] Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread gullible fool
Happy Birthday, Peter! I want everybody to take off early on Wednesday and have an extended weekend, in honor of Peter's birthday. Also, those who like to fast on Thursdays should celebrate Peter's birthday by having a nice, big meal. And eat some good protein for a change. I think turkey would

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread Ingegerd
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:19 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > > > I never heard someone claim that Maharishi said that he promised > never

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 3:15 PM, sparaig wrote: > [...] > >> > >> http://www.noetic.org/research/medbiblio/ch1.htm > >> > >> > > > > ITs really hard to generalize from an article from 1955. Scientific > > apparatus and techni

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 8:49 AM, sparaig wrote: > > >> > >> > >>> The spontaneous episodes of breath suspension during samadhi in > >>> TM are easily interupted, by tapping someone on the shoulder or > >>> otherwise getting th

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
On Nov 21, 2005, at 3:15 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 8:49 AM, sparaig wrote:The spontaneous episodes of breath suspension during samadhi in TM are easily interupted, by tapping someone on the shoulder or otherwis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 8:49 AM, sparaig wrote: > > >> > >> > >>> The spontaneous episodes of breath suspension during samadhi in > >>> TM are easily interupted, by tapping someone on the shoulder or > >>> otherwise getting th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 11/21/05 12:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I do have a problem with him creating and then selling his own brand > > of TM which from all appearances he has done, particularly since I > > ha

Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: [nhnenews] Pilgrims Flock To See Ram Bomjon, The 'Buddha Boy'

2005-11-21 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PILGRIMS FLOCK TO SEE 'BUDDHA BOY' SAID TO HAVE > FASTED SIX MONTHS > By Thomas Bell in Bara District, Nepal > The Telegraph > November 21, 2005 > > Ram Bomjon is also sitting beneath a pipal tree, in > the same posture as the > Buddha is depicted, b

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
On Nov 21, 2005, at 8:49 AM, sparaig wrote: The spontaneous episodes of breath suspension during samadhi in TM are easily interupted, by tapping someone on the shoulder or otherwise getting their attention. How do you show that someone is truely paralyzed in your world BTW? It's something you wo

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may be more enlightened than you think..

2005-11-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > Thanks, Jim. Michael's explanat

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:19 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > > > I never heard someone claim that Maharishi said that he promised never > > to teach meditation and then turn around and do the exact opposite. > > > > Chopra did. > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
On Nov 21, 2005, at 2:19 PM, shempmcgurk wrote:I never heard someone claim that Maharishi said that he promised never  to teach meditation and then turn around and do the exact opposite. Chopra did. He's not using the TM-puja style initiation is he? Nor is he using TM-style "checking" is he?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:30 PM, Peter wrote: > Todays my birthday. I was born 52 years ago. Holy Cow! > I've got 32 years left and then off to a new body. Happy B-Day, Pete! Did you get that Hummer you wanted? Forever Facing East, Vaj Yahoo! Groups Sponsor

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 11/21/05 12:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > I do have a problem with him creating and then selling his own brand > > of TM which from all appearances he has done, particularly since I > > h

[FairfieldLife] FW: [nhnenews] Pilgrims Flock To See Ram Bomjon, The 'Buddha Boy'

2005-11-21 Thread Rick Archer
PILGRIMS FLOCK TO SEE 'BUDDHA BOY' SAID TO HAVE FASTED SIX MONTHS By Thomas Bell in Bara District, Nepal The Telegraph November 21, 2005 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/21/wbuddha21..x m l&sSheet=/portal/2005/11/21/ixportal.html Thousands of pilgrims are pouring into

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi is Hanuman - Frank Lotz

2005-11-21 Thread hanumanhoffman9
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rusty, red hair? Long time purusha? Sports nut? what's > he up to now? We were buddies on Gov training and > purusha. You are thinking of Rusty Holeman. I did have very red hair though and was not on Purusha. I was on a cou

[FairfieldLife] Misconceptions... Hanuman... Monkey..NOT

2005-11-21 Thread hanumanhoffman9
Jaya Guru Datta Through Sadguru's grace, my wife and I were privileged to write and edit "The Life and Mission of Hanuman" from discourses by Sri Ganapathi Sachchidananda Swamiji, Avadhuta Dattapeetha. (Available through www.dycusa.org) It is an amazing story unfolding the metaphorical correla

[FairfieldLife] Message from The Ashtar Command

2005-11-21 Thread Blue Star
From:  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circle2012dreams/ Sunday December 4th 2005 Listen Online 11AM Est-8 AM Pst Michael and Aurora Ellegion Well known authorities on space phenomena, Michael and Aurora Ellegion have lectured to vast audiences on extensive UFO information. As the Interna

Re: [FairfieldLife] Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread Sal Sunshine
Happy B-day. May you have at least 52 more. Sal On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Peter wrote: Todays my birthday. I was born 52 years ago. Holy Cow! I've got 32 years left and then off to a new body.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread Rick Archer
on 11/21/05 12:11 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I do have a problem with him creating and then selling his own brand > of TM which from all appearances he has done, particularly since I > have seen a quote from him at the time he left the movement that he > had no interest in doi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread scienceofabundance
Just checked in to see what was going on. Happy Birthday, Peter. May the next 32 years be better than you could possibly imagine. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Todays my birthday. I was born 52 years ago. Holy Cow! > I've got 32 years left and then

RE: [FairfieldLife] Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread Paula Youmans
Happy Happy B-day!! 32 years is a long damn time…does it make you sing or cringe? May they be filled with joy and wonder ☺ ~Paula Subject: [FairfieldLife] Birthday Todays my birthday. I was born 52 years ago. Holy Cow! I've got 32 years left and then

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:15 PM, authfriend wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 10:11 AM, authfriend wrote: I *think* what you're describing is not turiya but an integrated state, what TM would call "witnessing," in meditation.  But then you

Re: [FairfieldLife] Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread Rick Archer
It's also Denyce Rusch's birthday. Have a good one. How do you know you're going to die when you're 84? Your next breath could be your last. Or you could live to 150. Besides, I thought you already died. on 11/21/05 11:30 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Todays my birthday. I was born 52

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may be more enlightened than you think..

2005-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > If my experience is that I'm overshadowed, how would > > Michael interpret that in terms of what he says in > > this piece? > > > > M

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Nov 21, 2005, at 10:11 AM, authfriend wrote: > > I *think* what you're describing is not turiya but an > > integrated state, what TM would call "witnessing," in > > meditation. But then your comment above that I wasn't > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: 2Nov2005 Press Conference

2005-11-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Nov/wnews_02nov2005prt1_128 > > One hour, 28 mins: > [in the Satyuga] lawyers will no longer be required to lie on behalf > of their clients > It's my understanding that at least in the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Man Who Sold the War

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
Thanks!On Nov 21, 2005, at 1:05 PM, gds444 wrote:Hi Vaj, I read this article on Friday. It's absolutely frightening and stunning that he would be so open and non-chalant about his role in past wars and propaganda.  If you'd like more info on the Rendon Group, check out PR Watch's site - www.prw

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may

2005-11-21 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Judy Stein writes:--snipped Thanks, Jim. Michael's explanations are indeed extraordinary. I wish he were around. This piece *almost* convinces me that I'm Self-realized, but I'd really like to ask him about being overshadowed by the relative, which is my sole basis for saying I'm not Self-realiz

[FairfieldLife] Re: From Hog Farmer to Hanuman

2005-11-21 Thread hanumanhoffman9
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, Maharish cannot be Hanuman as my old friend, Russell (Rusty) > Hoffman is now Hanuman Hoffman. They'll have to fight over it in court. Jaya Guru Datta This is not a name I picked for myself. I have included a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread shempmcgurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > What I find interesting about Chopra is that when he left the Movement > > he went down on record as saying: No, I don'

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [...] > I have been in the inner circle. My conclusions? It is > perfectly empty. > "and that hollowness is the source of the entire tree..." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> 1.2 million

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread Peter
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Todays my birthday. I was born 52 years ago. Holy > Cow! > > I've got 32 years left and then off to a new body. > > > Happy Birthday Peter!! > How did you find out a

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Man Who Sold the War

2005-11-21 Thread gds444
Hi Vaj, I read this article on Friday. It's absolutely frightening and stunning that he would be so open and non-chalant about his role in past wars and propaganda. If you'd like more info on the Rendon Group, check out PR Watch's site - www.prwatch.org I did a quick search for Rendon Group - ht

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Here's a part of Vyaasa's commentary on YS II 51 > > (baahyaabhyantara-viSayaakSepii caturthaH [praaNaayaamaH]) > > > > catur

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread Peter
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Todays my birthday. I was born 52 years ago. Holy > Cow! > > I've got 32 years left and then off to a new body. > > Grats and why only 32 years left? I'm leaving at 84. Apr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Judy Stein writes: > No, I'm not assuming that. But if you're referring > to entering turiya, then "paralysis," as noted, doesn't > make any sense. In turiya, there is no awareness *of* > any

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > > Infantile crap...A waste... > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At least I took out al

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may be more enlightened than you think..

2005-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Thanks, Jim. Michael's explanations are indeed > > extraordinary. > > > > I wish he were around. This piece *almost* convince

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:42 PM, sparaig wrote:--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:42 AM, sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Nov 21, 2005, at 10:11 AM, authfriend wrote: [...] I *think

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- brahmachari108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > > "brahmachari108" > > > > Infantile crap...A waste... > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparai

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: Symptoms of Bird flu

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] > 6. An irresistible urge to crap on someone's windshield. > so that's what thats about... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Todays my birthday. I was born 52 years ago. Holy Cow! > I've got 32 years left and then off to a new body. Grats and why only 32 years left? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Get

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > To be aware of someone like Maharishi, where such > > snap judgements > > are impossible, is refreshing. > > It stops the mind from positioning one's self

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 11:42 AM, sparaig wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Nov 21, 2005, at 10:11 AM, authfriend wrote: > >> > > [...] > > > >>> I *think*

[FairfieldLife] Re: Hanuman

2005-11-21 Thread hanumanhoffman9
I am curious who these people are that say they were (are) my friends. If you care to, let me know please ping me on the side, otherwise I will respect your desire for anonymity. Thanks! Hanuman --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, Maharish c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:26 PM, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > --- markmeredith2002 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Todays my birthday. I was born 52 years ago. Holy Cow! > I've got 32 years left and then off to a new body. > Happy Birthday Peter!! How did you find out about the remaining 32 years? Intuition, or did someone tell you th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about

2005-11-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paula Youmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was going to say that very exact thing regarding MMY saying that he only > wanted to speak to certain people > > that "understand" him!! I was very much wondering why he thought anyone > understands him.trul

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread Vaj
On Nov 21, 2005, at 12:26 PM, Peter wrote: --- markmeredith2002 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  wrote:      I heard that Maharishi's nephews fight amon

[FairfieldLife] Re: A Selection from FFL Greatest Hits: you may be more enlightened than you think..

2005-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was looking at archived files and found this one pretty quickly. > I decided to post it again for everyone's enjoyment. It can be > found in the Files/FFLIndex.html section, or as message 4002, from > Michael D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi is Hanuman - Frank Lotz

2005-11-21 Thread brahmachari108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sorry, Maharish cannot be Hanuman as my old friend, Russell (Rusty) > Hoffman is now Hanuman Hoffman. They'll have to fight over it in court. > > > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[FairfieldLife] Birthday

2005-11-21 Thread Peter
Todays my birthday. I was born 52 years ago. Holy Cow! I've got 32 years left and then off to a new body. __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -

[FairfieldLife] Fwd: Symptoms of Bird flu

2005-11-21 Thread MDixon6569
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread Peter
--- markmeredith2002 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I heard that Maharishi's nephews fight

[FairfieldLife] Re: My generic response

2005-11-21 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From now on, assume this if I don't respond to a post. Feel free to > refer to this if you need to respond in kind, or you can use the URL > below to save bandwidth (its a few bytes shorter than referring to the > UR

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about

2005-11-21 Thread Peter
--- brahmachari108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "brahmachari108" > > > Infantile crap...A waste... > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > At least I took out all the extra blank lines > before

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Charlie Donahue

2005-11-21 Thread Peter
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "markmeredith2002" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason > Spock > <[EMAIL PRO

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about

2005-11-21 Thread Peter
--- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > To be aware of someone like Maharishi, where such > snap judgements > are impossible, is refreshing. It stops the mind from positioning one's self in relation to MMY with a story about how "bad" or how "good" he is. For most of us these judgme

Re: [FairfieldLife] My generic response

2005-11-21 Thread Peter
Good one! --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From now on, assume this if I don't respond to a > post. Feel free to > refer to this if you need to respond in kind, or you > can use the URL > below to save bandwidth (its a few bytes shorter > than referring to the > URL of this FFL article

[FairfieldLife] Re: Does anyone really care about

2005-11-21 Thread brahmachari108
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "brahmachari108" > > Infantile crap...A waste... > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At least I took out all the extra blank lines before I responded with > one line... > As I said.Infantile one-up-man

[FairfieldLife] Re: Fourth?

2005-11-21 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis
Judy Stein writes: No, I'm not assuming that. But if you're referring to entering turiya, then "paralysis," as noted, doesn't make any sense. In turiya, there is no awareness *of* anything but awareness itself. Turiya is not object- oriented consciousness; there are no objects of perception (sub

[FairfieldLife] My generic response

2005-11-21 Thread sparaig
>From now on, assume this if I don't respond to a post. Feel free to refer to this if you need to respond in kind, or you can use the URL below to save bandwidth (its a few bytes shorter than referring to the URL of this FFL article): http://pdwalker.net/documents/ultimateInsult/

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