date:20051217

Dylan Thomas' "Do Not Go Gentle into That Good Night"

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

 

 

 






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[FairfieldLife] Ode to Dr. Pete

Tears of Rage, by Bob Dylan and Richard Manuel


We carried you in our arms
On Independence Day,
And now you'd throw us all aside
And put us on our way.
Oh what dear daughter 'neath the sun
Would treat a father so,
To wait upon him hand and foot
And always tell him, "No"?
Tears of rage, tears of grief,
Why must I always be the thief?
Come to me now, you know
We're so alone
And life is brief.

We pointed out the way to go
And scratched your name in sand,
Though you just thought it was nothing more
Than a place for you to stand.
Now, I want you to know that while we watched,
You discover there was no one true.
Most ev'rybody really thought
It was a childish thing to do.
Tears of rage, tears of grief,
Must I always be the thief?
Come to me now, you know
We're so low
And life is brief.

It was all very painless
When you went out to receive
All that false instruction
Which we never could believe.
And now the heart is filled with gold
As if it was a purse.
But, oh, what kind of love is this
Which goes from bad to worse?
Tears of rage, tears of grief,
Must I always be the thief?
Come to me now, you know
We're so low
And life is brief.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Seeing Rage

Oh, yes. Sorry. I forgot to state the obvious prediction: you see rage
and anger in my post. hahaha. What else is new?

Can you cite one post that pokes fun at you, or criticizes you, in
which you don't, in YOUR EYES, see rage and anger in the poster?

Lets list the posts explicitly.

Its such a great defense mechanism. Especially when you can cloak it
with a  phd and professional practice. 

Again, waiting for you to cantact me about that paper. 

 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, braaahmaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Peter, your recent comments on rage are intriguing. 
> 
> You see rage in my satire. I'm just curious. Do you see rage in other
> satires? Swift, Bruce, Sahl, Kaufman, Gorafalo, Silverman ? 
> 
> Not that my satire is of their caliber. Mine is only amateur -- yet it
> is topical. Being amateur, I should think it may induce greater rage
> in you than professional satirists. Is that the case? 
> 
> Or maybe its the ineptitude of my satire that enrages you, as if you
> are shouting inside "damn it, if you are going to be satirical, at
> least do a good job at it !." (Or as Barry would say "Do a flying fuck
> good job at it.".) I agree. Bad comics are bad news. But sick? 
> 
> But, yeah. I agree. There is nothing lamer than someone who professes
> to be something and doesn't come near the standards of his or her
> profession. 
> 
> Well, maybe you don't like the "satire campfire". Maybe you are more
> comfortable in your own backyard, making smores. Near Mom. Not in the
> wilderness that satire entails. No harm, no foul. 
> 
> Maybe you don't like campfires. Where high yarns are told and tall
> tales are spun. And you need to sort out stuff for yourself. Beyond
> the sacred literal.  No harm, no foul. 
> 
> Well rage is an intersting phenomenon. Good luck in treating yours.
> Its odd isn't it, people with maladies migrate towards becoming
> treatment professionalsin to those same maladies.
> 
> I tended towards satire. yes all acknowledgements of lameness fully
> owned. Guess I tended towards curing my damn funny bone. Inept an
> attempt as that has been. But I can't stop laughing. Is that a
> sickness? In your book? Giggling? Braeking out in a roaring laugh like
> a bear? Vapid sickness? What kind of therapy shouldI seek for a warped
> funny bone? A warped therapist? 
> 
> No thats not the same bone you were keen on when apologizing to Tom.
> Now THAT, I have to hand it to you, was like the best INEPT move I
> have seen ever. Totally breaking boundaries. Kaufmanesque. All plauds
> to you on that one. The scales of ackwardness and bad taste were
> raised to such heights, I was in awe. Maladjust on brother.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Seeing Rage

Peter, your recent comments on rage are intriguing. 

You see rage in my satire. I'm just curious. Do you see rage in other
satires? Swift, Bruce, Sahl, Kaufman, Gorafalo, Silverman ? 

Not that my satire is of their caliber. Mine is only amateur -- yet it
is topical. Being amateur, I should think it may induce greater rage
in you than professional satirists. Is that the case? 

Or maybe its the ineptitude of my satire that enrages you, as if you
are shouting inside "damn it, if you are going to be satirical, at
least do a good job at it !." (Or as Barry would say "Do a flying fuck
good job at it.".) I agree. Bad comics are bad news. But sick? 

But, yeah. I agree. There is nothing lamer than someone who professes
to be something and doesn't come near the standards of his or her
profession. 

Well, maybe you don't like the "satire campfire". Maybe you are more
comfortable in your own backyard, making smores. Near Mom. Not in the
wilderness that satire entails. No harm, no foul. 

Maybe you don't like campfires. Where high yarns are told and tall
tales are spun. And you need to sort out stuff for yourself. Beyond
the sacred literal.  No harm, no foul. 

Well rage is an intersting phenomenon. Good luck in treating yours.
Its odd isn't it, people with maladies migrate towards becoming
treatment professionalsin to those same maladies.

I tended towards satire. yes all acknowledgements of lameness fully
owned. Guess I tended towards curing my damn funny bone. Inept an
attempt as that has been. But I can't stop laughing. Is that a
sickness? In your book? Giggling? Braeking out in a roaring laugh like
a bear? Vapid sickness? What kind of therapy shouldI seek for a warped
funny bone? A warped therapist? 

No thats not the same bone you were keen on when apologizing to Tom.
Now THAT, I have to hand it to you, was like the best INEPT move I
have seen ever. Totally breaking boundaries. Kaufmanesque. All plauds
to you on that one. The scales of ackwardness and bad taste were
raised to such heights, I was in awe. Maladjust on brother.





 





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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brahaman Tom psyche unfolding

I have a great idea Peter. It will surely boost your career and the
esteem of your therapist collegues for you. Lets use me and my post as
a case study that you can present at the American Pyschologist
Association national conference. 

Part I: A survey of Tom's comments

Part II: My recent post

Part III: Your professional analysis of why it is "replete with
rage and hostility"

Part IV: Proposed Therapies to Migigate the Rage. TM, AOL, Prayer,
Yagyas, Therapy.

Part IV:  Q and A from the peer audience of therapists.

Lets do it Peter. I am more than willing to be the fool and show my
apparent maladies, even if I have to publically humiliate myself to
further the field of mental health aand to help you out in your career. 

Contact me for details. I think this is an important paper. Its
imperative you move on it now. For the sake of the world.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The following is another post that is replete with
> rage and hostility.
> 
> --- braaahmaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I am inspired by your recent posts Tom. To know that
> > it is BRAHMAN --
> > the totality of wholenss of all creation,
> > non-creation and ALL That
> > which is neither -- seeing through Tom's eyes,  and
> > that BRAHAMAN who
> > is typing these "*your*" posts on FFL is so
> > mystically exalting, all
> > the hairs on my body are standing on end. 
> > 
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/81908
> > The writer looking out through these eyes is that
> > Brahman.
> > 
> > On my alter, both internal and external, with all
> > gratitude and
> > offerings to Saraswati -- Goddess of Knowledge, to
> > Laksmi -- Godess of
> > structure that brings Wholenss, to Tara, Swami
> > Brahmananda Saraswati,
> > to the sweet Jesus the Christ, to Yogananda, to
> > Ananda Moya Ma, the
> > River of Compassion, to Ramakrishna, to many if not
> > all Aghoris,
> > Naths, Saivaite, Sufi, Vaisnava, Tibetian Buddhist
> > saints, scholars,
> > lamas, ripoches, shamans -- I have added  Brahaman
> > as reflected
> > through Tom. One of your greatest quotes is embedded
> > in Pure Gold
> > above my alter: 
> > 
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/82153
> > From my side they can take a long walk off a short
> > dock or suck eggs
> > whichever seems most appropriate.
> > 
> > The depth of wisdom and compassion flowing from
> > Brahaman, who is YOU,
> > through your fingers, thrill my very being.
> > 
> > All gratitidue.
> > 
> > Braaahmaan

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brahaman Tom psyche unfolding

Thanks Peter ro your on-line diagnosis. I will look into it. 

In re-reading the post, it makes me laugh and seems witty to me. Am I
alone? Tom's proclamations appear to me Monty Pythonic. But then,
maybe my sense of humor is "special".

Could you cite specific currently acknowledge psychoanalytic theory as
to why the post is "replete with rage and hostility"? Or is this not a
professional opinion, but rather a personal one?

Does your profession, profressional organizations and peer recognize
on-line diagnoses?

Peter, you seem to see anger and rage in anyone who disagrees with
you. Have you noticed that? 

By the way, where did you obtain your doctoral degree. An accredited
university? I can't find it anywhere on the internet. I hope it wasn't
correspondence school that Johny Gray got his " PHD"" from. 

Do you publish papers? Or have any recognition from peers for your
credibility? Speeches at conferences? 

Your  online diagnoses seems so out of touch with anything I have seen
in the legitimate therapy field, it makes me wonder as to your
training and qualifications to make such on-line assessments.

As I recall, there is another phd therapist on this list. I forget his
name. Kevin? Works at VA hostpital. He has always seemed so balanced
and measured in his comments, particularly compared to the sometimes
pitta-outpourings of Dr Sutphen.  If he is around, perhaps he can
comment on:

1) is the post in question definitively "replete with rage and
hostility" -- from a professional psychologist perspective. Or is it
perhaps only one therapists view? Is it a view many other therapiss
would hold?

2) Have you noticed a tendency for Peter to find rage and anger in any
 many posts that he disagrees with?

But thanks Peter. I will show these posts to a therapist acquatintance
of mine and see if she 

1)  thinks my coments are "replete with rage and hostility"? 

2) thinks you are a quack

3) laughs her head off at Tom's assertions

4) looks sternly at me for getting involved with such people

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The following is another post that is replete with
> rage and hostility.
> 
> --- braaahmaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I am inspired by your recent posts Tom. To know that
> > it is BRAHMAN --
> > the totality of wholenss of all creation,
> > non-creation and ALL That
> > which is neither -- seeing through Tom's eyes,  and
> > that BRAHAMAN who
> > is typing these "*your*" posts on FFL is so
> > mystically exalting, all
> > the hairs on my body are standing on end. 
> > 
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/81908
> > The writer looking out through these eyes is that
> > Brahman.
> > 
> > On my alter, both internal and external, with all
> > gratitude and
> > offerings to Saraswati -- Goddess of Knowledge, to
> > Laksmi -- Godess of
> > structure that brings Wholenss, to Tara, Swami
> > Brahmananda Saraswati,
> > to the sweet Jesus the Christ, to Yogananda, to
> > Ananda Moya Ma, the
> > River of Compassion, to Ramakrishna, to many if not
> > all Aghoris,
> > Naths, Saivaite, Sufi, Vaisnava, Tibetian Buddhist
> > saints, scholars,
> > lamas, ripoches, shamans -- I have added  Brahaman
> > as reflected
> > through Tom. One of your greatest quotes is embedded
> > in Pure Gold
> > above my alter: 
> > 
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/82153
> > From my side they can take a long walk off a short
> > dock or suck eggs
> > whichever seems most appropriate.
> > 
> > The depth of wisdom and compassion flowing from
> > Brahaman, who is YOU,
> > through your fingers, thrill my very being.
> > 
> > All gratitidue.
> > 
> > Braaahmaan
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brahaman Tom psyche unfolding

If you can't laugh at someone proclaiming to be channeling Brahman
saying "from my side they can take a long walk off a short
dock or suck eggs whichever seems most appropriate" you may have a
stick up your ass.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The following is another post that is replete with
> rage and hostility.
> 
> --- braaahmaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I am inspired by your recent posts Tom. To know that
> > it is BRAHMAN --
> > the totality of wholenss of all creation,
> > non-creation and ALL That
> > which is neither -- seeing through Tom's eyes,  and
> > that BRAHAMAN who
> > is typing these "*your*" posts on FFL is so
> > mystically exalting, all
> > the hairs on my body are standing on end. 
> > 
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/81908
> > The writer looking out through these eyes is that
> > Brahman.
> > 
> > On my alter, both internal and external, with all
> > gratitude and
> > offerings to Saraswati -- Goddess of Knowledge, to
> > Laksmi -- Godess of
> > structure that brings Wholenss, to Tara, Swami
> > Brahmananda Saraswati,
> > to the sweet Jesus the Christ, to Yogananda, to
> > Ananda Moya Ma, the
> > River of Compassion, to Ramakrishna, to many if not
> > all Aghoris,
> > Naths, Saivaite, Sufi, Vaisnava, Tibetian Buddhist
> > saints, scholars,
> > lamas, ripoches, shamans -- I have added  Brahaman
> > as reflected
> > through Tom. One of your greatest quotes is embedded
> > in Pure Gold
> > above my alter: 
> > 
> >
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/82153
> > From my side they can take a long walk off a short
> > dock or suck eggs
> > whichever seems most appropriate.
> > 
> > The depth of wisdom and compassion flowing from
> > Brahaman, who is YOU,
> > through your fingers, thrill my very being.
> > 
> > All gratitidue.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brahaman Tom psyche unfolding

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The following is another post that is replete with
> rage and hostility. 

And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes satire is satire.
Sometimes dry intellectuals have limited senses of humor. Sometimes
quacks are quacks. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Brahaman Tom psyche unfolding

The following is another post that is replete with
rage and hostility.

--- braaahmaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am inspired by your recent posts Tom. To know that
> it is BRAHMAN --
> the totality of wholenss of all creation,
> non-creation and ALL That
> which is neither -- seeing through Tom's eyes,  and
> that BRAHAMAN who
> is typing these "*your*" posts on FFL is so
> mystically exalting, all
> the hairs on my body are standing on end. 
> 
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/81908
> The writer looking out through these eyes is that
> Brahman.
> 
> On my alter, both internal and external, with all
> gratitude and
> offerings to Saraswati -- Goddess of Knowledge, to
> Laksmi -- Godess of
> structure that brings Wholenss, to Tara, Swami
> Brahmananda Saraswati,
> to the sweet Jesus the Christ, to Yogananda, to
> Ananda Moya Ma, the
> River of Compassion, to Ramakrishna, to many if not
> all Aghoris,
> Naths, Saivaite, Sufi, Vaisnava, Tibetian Buddhist
> saints, scholars,
> lamas, ripoches, shamans -- I have added  Brahaman
> as reflected
> through Tom. One of your greatest quotes is embedded
> in Pure Gold
> above my alter: 
> 
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/82153
> From my side they can take a long walk off a short
> dock or suck eggs
> whichever seems most appropriate.
> 
> The depth of wisdom and compassion flowing from
> Brahaman, who is YOU,
> through your fingers, thrill my very being.
> 
> All gratitidue.
> 
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> 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO as a valid employer



--- anonyff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Way back when, in Beacon Light of the Himalayas
> Maharishi said you can
> choose any word at all to transcend on. That being
> the case, any word
> at all, such as with Benson's technique, will allow
> you to transcend.
> In BL of the H Maharishi then goes on to say that we
> choose the names
> of Hindu gods for their pleasing influence. But this
> does not negate
> what he said immediately prior to that (which I said
> immediately prior
> to that in this post).
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "lurkernomore20002000"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > No puja = no parashakti. Slow, slow path. A dead
> > > mantra. Too bad. Why were they so arrogant as to
> > > remove the puja? Who's name do they teach in?
> They're
> > > own? Where do they say this practice came from,
> the
> > > tradition of Gunther? Sound like spiritual fools
> to
> > > me. Of course all IMHO
> > > -Sri Peter (Knows everything)
> > > 
> > So, you mean Herbie Benson's relaxation response
> does no good, or 
> > perhaps may produce relaxation but no spiritual
> growth. And that the 
> > mantras have an enlivening quality other than as a
> vehicle to the 
> > transcendent. Personally, I like my mantra. Would
> not want to trade.  
> > I am just curious if the two approaches have any
> measureable 
> > difference, or if the difference is just on the
> meta level.
> > 
> > lurk

You know the joke. Benson's technique is repeating,
"one,one,one". His advanced technique  is, "Two,
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Brahaman Tom psyche unfolding

Akash. You wanted me to point out examples of hostile,
passive-aggressive posts on your part. Your following
post is a great example.

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> Brahaman Tom says that was how it came down. 
> 
> Damn, I am so confused.
> 
> I guess Brahman is just setting up another (sigh)
> paradox for us so we
> can melt the boundaries so we can realize Brahaman
> -- which is Tom.
> 
> OK! It all makes sense now!! Is that a bad thing?
> Like not being in
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Brahaman Tom psyche unfolding

2005-12-17 Thread gullible fool

To be more precise, Rick unsubscribed anonymousff from
FFL. The anonymous ID/email account is still alive.
Only yahoo can delete an email account. Whoever
changed the password can apply to rejoin FFL.
Hopefully, the comment box he has to fill out upon
applying to join will have a very sound reason for why
he changed the password.

--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> on 12/17/05 10:04 PM, braaahmaan at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Since a certain unnamed individual abused the
> anon log in a lurker
> >> friend who is not a member and can no longer post
> > 
> > I too notice that anonymousff is not longer
> active. Did you delete
> > that ID Rick? Or Cancel its membership?
> > 
> > Just curious as to reasoning? Since it was a FFL
> feature, it seems
> > resonable to provide an announcement of a change
> of FFL policy
> > regarding anon postings.
> > 
> > And was there some abuse observed? If so please
> share what that was so
> > we all can help conform to proper FFL guidelines.
> 
> Someone changed the password on it so that it no
> longer worked. I deleted
> it. Another has been set up and will be announced.
> Sorry about the
> inconvenience.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO as a valid employer

I don't beleive in UNITY actually. I believe in the MOMENT. Not
daydreams and speculations.

But hey. why not make the "anonyff"  user name's password public?

Then we will have more anon log ons. Blue Meanines won't be able to
shut down communications. Infinite routings. Open source postings.
Live Now. While the Cultists and Indoctrinarists eat cake. Or suck eggs.

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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
> > Hi Mr or Ms a_non_moose_ff
> 
> > Your login is not the same as your password. Guess
> > you are not in
> > Unity. 
> 
> I created anonyff last night as a replacement to
> anonymousff and ran into the same problem trying to
> use anonyff for the password. It's a recent change.
> Every time yahoo makes a change, the interface becomes
> more difficult to use.  
> 
> Since you could not use the same ID and password, I
> guess you are not in Unity, either.
> 
> --- a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Mr or Ms anonyff. 
> > 
> > I thought you were a replacement for anonymousff.
> > But no such luck.
> > Your login is not the same as your password. Guess
> > you are not in
> > Unity. 
> > 
> > Well I tried to obtain Unity -- same user name and
> > password -- but
> > yahoo no longer allows that. Imagine that! Yahoo has
> > dissallowed
> > UNITY!. What a BUMMMER!!!
> > 
> > Well, for all those who liked anonymousff -- and
> > there were so many --
> > (quit smirking kh and ... ) 
> > 
> > here is another group logon. a_non_moose_ff  
> > 
> > but the password can't be the same as user name now.
> > -- new yahoo
> > policy  i guess. So the password for
> > 
> > a_non_moose_ff
> > 
> > is 
> > 
> > 123456
> > 
> > I know its complex - but hopefully you have come
> > down enough in your
> > rounds, and drinking the right AV tea, and are
> > facing east, to
> > remember it. 
> > 
> > Post on  anon brothers and sisters ---
> > 
> > until THE MAN tries to shut us down again. Then we
> > will figure out
> > another way to beat THE MAN.
> > 
> > Blows Against the Empire,
> > 
> > Power to the People, 
> > 
> > Power to the Infinite ANON,
> > 
> > 
> > Sister_Moose
> > 
> > (with regards from Brother_Mouse)
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO as a valid employer

2005-12-17 Thread gullible fool

> Hi Mr or Ms a_non_moose_ff

> Your login is not the same as your password. Guess
> you are not in
> Unity. 

I created anonyff last night as a replacement to
anonymousff and ran into the same problem trying to
use anonyff for the password. It's a recent change.
Every time yahoo makes a change, the interface becomes
more difficult to use.  

Since you could not use the same ID and password, I
guess you are not in Unity, either.

--- a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mr or Ms anonyff. 
> 
> I thought you were a replacement for anonymousff.
> But no such luck.
> Your login is not the same as your password. Guess
> you are not in
> Unity. 
> 
> Well I tried to obtain Unity -- same user name and
> password -- but
> yahoo no longer allows that. Imagine that! Yahoo has
> dissallowed
> UNITY!. What a BUMMMER!!!
> 
> Well, for all those who liked anonymousff -- and
> there were so many --
> (quit smirking kh and ... ) 
> 
> here is another group logon. a_non_moose_ff  
> 
> but the password can't be the same as user name now.
> -- new yahoo
> policy  i guess. So the password for
> 
> a_non_moose_ff
> 
> is 
> 
> 123456
> 
> I know its complex - but hopefully you have come
> down enough in your
> rounds, and drinking the right AV tea, and are
> facing east, to
> remember it. 
> 
> Post on  anon brothers and sisters ---
> 
> until THE MAN tries to shut us down again. Then we
> will figure out
> another way to beat THE MAN.
> 
> Blows Against the Empire,
> 
> Power to the People, 
> 
> Power to the Infinite ANON,
> 
> 
> Sister_Moose
> 
> (with regards from Brother_Mouse)

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brahaman Tom psyche unfolding

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 12/17/05 10:04 PM, braaahmaan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> > "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Since a certain unnamed individual abused the anon log in a lurker
> >> friend who is not a member and can no longer post
> > 
> > I too notice that anonymousff is not longer active. Did you delete
> > that ID Rick? Or Cancel its membership?
> > 
> > Just curious as to reasoning? Since it was a FFL feature, it seems
> > resonable to provide an announcement of a change of FFL policy
> > regarding anon postings.
> > 
> > And was there some abuse observed? If so please share what that was so
> > we all can help conform to proper FFL guidelines.
> 
> Someone changed the password on it so that it no longer worked. I
deleted
> it. Another has been set up and will be announced. Sorry about the
> inconvenience.

Thanks.

So it wasn't deleted due to abuse of an anon user. Interesting. 

Brahaman Tom says that was how it came down. 

Damn, I am so confused.

I guess Brahman is just setting up another (sigh) paradox for us so we
can melt the boundaries so we can realize Brahaman -- which is Tom.

OK! It all makes sense now!! Is that a bad thing? Like not being in
the throws of perplexity? Let me know, I want to make sure I am on the
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Brahaman Tom psyche unfolding

on 12/17/05 10:04 PM, braaahmaan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
> "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> Since a certain unnamed individual abused the anon log in a lurker
>> friend who is not a member and can no longer post
> 
> I too notice that anonymousff is not longer active. Did you delete
> that ID Rick? Or Cancel its membership?
> 
> Just curious as to reasoning? Since it was a FFL feature, it seems
> resonable to provide an announcement of a change of FFL policy
> regarding anon postings.
> 
> And was there some abuse observed? If so please share what that was so
> we all can help conform to proper FFL guidelines.

Someone changed the password on it so that it no longer worked. I deleted
it. Another has been set up and will be announced. Sorry about the
inconvenience.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO as a valid employer

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi Mr or Ms anonyff. 

I thought you were a replacement for anonymousff. But no such luck.
Your login is not the same as your password. Guess you are not in
Unity. 

Well I tried to obtain Unity -- same user name and password -- but
yahoo no longer allows that. Imagine that! Yahoo has dissallowed
UNITY!. What a BUMMMER!!!

Well, for all those who liked anonymousff -- and there were so many --
(quit smirking kh and ... ) 

here is another group logon. a_non_moose_ff  

but the password can't be the same as user name now. -- new yahoo
policy  i guess. So the password for

a_non_moose_ff

is 

123456

I know its complex - but hopefully you have come down enough in your
rounds, and drinking the right AV tea, and are facing east, to
remember it. 

Post on  anon brothers and sisters ---

until THE MAN tries to shut us down again. Then we will figure out
another way to beat THE MAN.

Blows Against the Empire,

Power to the People, 

Power to the Infinite ANON,


Sister_Moose

(with regards from Brother_Mouse)







  





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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO as a valid employer

2005-12-17 Thread anonyff

Way back when, in Beacon Light of the Himalayas Maharishi said you can
choose any word at all to transcend on. That being the case, any word
at all, such as with Benson's technique, will allow you to transcend.
In BL of the H Maharishi then goes on to say that we choose the names
of Hindu gods for their pleasing influence. But this does not negate
what he said immediately prior to that (which I said immediately prior
to that in this post).

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > No puja = no parashakti. Slow, slow path. A dead
> > mantra. Too bad. Why were they so arrogant as to
> > remove the puja? Who's name do they teach in? They're
> > own? Where do they say this practice came from, the
> > tradition of Gunther? Sound like spiritual fools to
> > me. Of course all IMHO
> > -Sri Peter (Knows everything)
> > 
> So, you mean Herbie Benson's relaxation response does no good, or 
> perhaps may produce relaxation but no spiritual growth. And that the 
> mantras have an enlivening quality other than as a vehicle to the 
> transcendent. Personally, I like my mantra. Would not want to trade.  
> I am just curious if the two approaches have any measureable 
> difference, or if the difference is just on the meta level.
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brahaman Tom psyche unfolding

I am inspired by your recent posts Tom. To know that it is BRAHMAN --
the totality of wholenss of all creation, non-creation and ALL That
which is neither -- seeing through Tom's eyes,  and that BRAHAMAN who
is typing these "*your*" posts on FFL is so mystically exalting, all
the hairs on my body are standing on end. 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/81908
The writer looking out through these eyes is that Brahman.

On my alter, both internal and external, with all gratitude and
offerings to Saraswati -- Goddess of Knowledge, to Laksmi -- Godess of
structure that brings Wholenss, to Tara, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati,
to the sweet Jesus the Christ, to Yogananda, to Ananda Moya Ma, the
River of Compassion, to Ramakrishna, to many if not all Aghoris,
Naths, Saivaite, Sufi, Vaisnava, Tibetian Buddhist saints, scholars,
lamas, ripoches, shamans -- I have added  Brahaman as reflected
through Tom. One of your greatest quotes is embedded in Pure Gold
above my alter: 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/82153
>From my side they can take a long walk off a short dock or suck eggs
whichever seems most appropriate.

The depth of wisdom and compassion flowing from Brahaman, who is YOU,
through your fingers, thrill my very being.

All gratitidue.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Brahaman Tom psyche unfolding

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Since a certain unnamed individual abused the anon log in a lurker
> friend who is not a member and can no longer post

I too notice that anonymousff is not longer active. Did you delete
that ID Rick? Or Cancel its membership?

Just curious as to reasoning? Since it was a FFL feature, it seems
resonable to provide an announcement of a change of FFL policy
regarding anon postings.

And was there some abuse observed? If so please share what that was so
we all can help conform to proper FFL guidelines.

Thanks

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Akasha psyche behind Braaahmaan's posting

Your friend indeed is quite articulate, coherent and insightful. A
role model for you Tom?




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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Since a certain unnamed individual abused the anon log in a lurker
> friend who is not a member and can no longer post asked me to post
> this as his obversation/opinion cognition. 
> 
> --- braaahmaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> An new folder in the FILES section (see uper left portion of FFL Home
> Page) has been created to track, the surprisingly increasing, claims
> made on FL. Yes must track, must track, must track) and reduce must
> reduce must reduce chaos, chaos must reduce), yes increasing,
> increasing, increasing, always fucking increasing number of baseless
> and/or unsubstantiated (baseless yes, baseless, baseless they are all
> baseless)
> 
> 
> Here is the FAQ for that folder.
> 
> 
> 1) Make one file for each general unsubstantiated claim. (Yes make a
> file, yes make a file, make a file) (To reduce clutter, clutter must
> be reduced, reduced reduced reduced, clutter bad, clutter bad, clutter
> bad please group near similar claims in the same file.)
> 
> In each file, provide:
> 
> 2) Provide a URL to the post of the alleged bogus claim, and key (URL
> for bogus clutter, bogus, bogus, bogus only) quotes of the claim.
> (That's the key, That's the key, That's the key)
> 
> 3) Politely ask the poster for specific clarification and back-up of
> (clarify and back up, clarify and back up, be polite, be polite, be
> polite, specific only, specific only, specific only) his claim(s).
> Provide the URL of that post.
> 
> 4) Provide URL of original posters response, or citation that after a
> (more URL, more URL, match and cross reference, match and cross
> reference, must have back up and clarity, back up and clarity, verify,
> bring order, must have order) week, no resposnse of clarification or
> backup was made.
> 
> 5) Cite URLs and summaries of subsequent relevant posts on the issue.
> (relevant, relevant, relevant, must pertain, must must must 
> 
> 6) Provide a summary as to why you feel the claim has not been
> clarified and substantiated. (clarify and substantiate, yes must prove
> the MF's wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, must be right, right ,right,
> order, clarity, summary, clarify and substantiate, clarify and
> substantiate clarify and substantiate 
> 
> 7) When an adequate response is received, publicly thank the poster
> for the clarification. (thank, thank, thank, polite, polite, polite,
> must be polite, and better,better, better, show them,  show them, show
> them, show the superior way, superior, superior.the fools)
> 
> 8) If there is an inadequate response, post to FFL a summary of the
> file: claim made, the inadequacy of response, etc. , with URL of the
> claim's file. (inadequate, inadequate, yes it will always be, post to
> show how stupid they are, how disorderly, how unclear, how
> unsummarized, how inferior, how unsubstantial, baseless, baseless,
> baseless, it is all baseless, file it, file, file file,
> 
> 9) As files accumulate, and index and summary file for all claim files
> will be made. (yes, yes ,yes index, we must have an index, indexes are
> good, good, good, good))
> 
> 10) Do not make perosnal attacks on persons or motives. Simply state
> the facts. (no personal attacks, just show how stupid they are,
> inconsequential, baseless, inferior, chaotic, unorganized, get it all
> categorized, summarized, clarified, filed, foldered, uncluttered, JUST
> THE FACTS, MAAM, JUST THE FACTS, MAAM, JUST THE FACTS, MAAM, JUST THE
> FACTS, MAAM; STUPID PSYCHOLOGISTS) Just being humorous, humor, humor,
> humor, disguise, disguise..J , :J J just my clever sense of humor,
> clever clever
> 
> 11) This is a moderated folder. Files with inconsequential material
> and personal disputes will be returned to the "filer" and discarded
> from this folder. (I moderate, moderate, moderate, moderate, eliminate
> inconsequential, cluttered up poo poo ca ca, discard them, discard,
> discard, all the inferiors, unclear thinkers, must have order,
> categories, lots of categories, files, index them, index them, show
> the way , the way , the way, follow me, follow my lead,  must have
> control, control, control, get it all filed, clarified, categorized,
> indexed, structured my way, my way, my way, THE way, THE way, THE way)
>  right, right, right, have to be, have to be, have to be, always
> right, show them, show show show:) :) :) :)
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy and TorquiseB

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I got you all beat.
> > > 
> > > It's Dennis and Margaret.
> > 
> > You got me laughing with that one, Shemp. :-)
> > I can't disagree -- Dennis is indeed a 
> > menace and have you *ever* encountered 
> > anyone in literature more uptight and
> > anal retentive than Margaret? :-)
> >
> 
> So you identify with the female in this one. Interesting...
>

Barry-Margaret. It kind of fits. 

So astutely sure of herself, and extensively verbose, about why
everyone else is wrong and improper.

And so vocal about being why she is immune to Dennis's and others'
teasing and boyish harangues -- only to run home crying and
extensively recounting in detail how the neighborhood is so mean and
fuck-up -- chalking it all up to them being so warped (angry,
resentful, not recognizing her great vision of life) -- her odd quirks
and abrupt discordance between her words and actions having nothing to
do with the -- in reality -- gentle teasing.

Barry in a nutshell. (Nutshell is not implying anything about nut case.)

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO as a valid employer

2005-12-17 Thread lurkernomore20002000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> No puja = no parashakti. Slow, slow path. A dead
> mantra. Too bad. Why were they so arrogant as to
> remove the puja? Who's name do they teach in? They're
> own? Where do they say this practice came from, the
> tradition of Gunther? Sound like spiritual fools to
> me. Of course all IMHO
> -Sri Peter (Knows everything)
> 
So, you mean Herbie Benson's relaxation response does no good, or 
perhaps may produce relaxation but no spiritual growth. And that the 
mantras have an enlivening quality other than as a vehicle to the 
transcendent. Personally, I like my mantra. Would not want to trade.  
I am just curious if the two approaches have any measureable 
difference, or if the difference is just on the meta level.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Read along with Tom

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Pall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > "The third component of the Law of Least Effort is 
defenselessness, 
> which means that your awareness is established in defenselessness, 
and 
> you have relinquished the need to convince or persuade others of 
your 
> point of view.  If you observe people around you, you'll see that 
they 
> spend ninety-nine percent of their time defending their point of 
> view.  If you just relinquish the need to defend your point of 
view, 
> you will in that relinquishment, gain access to enormous amounts of 
> energy that have been previously wasted."
> > 
> > --Deepak Chopra  The Seven Spiritual Laws of Success
> >
> Right on!
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Announcement of A New Folder: Baseless Cla

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[...]
> 
> It takes courage and fortitude to mentally say, I don't give a fuck 
> what anyone else says, including my ego, including the organization 
> that propagates this valuable technique, I know that my liberation 
> lies in *this* direction, inexplicable by my intellect, led solely 
> by my heart, intuition, and faith, answerable to no one but my Self, 
> and this is my solitary journey.
>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Announcement of A New Folder: Baseless Cla

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 17, 2005, at 3:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > It's just utterly fascinating to me how people who
> > have been involved in the TM movement or other "We've
> > got the answers if you've got the cash" spiritual
> > movements get warped by that over the years. They
> > tend to react to everything spiritual that they
> > encounter as if someone is trying to sell them some-
> > thing. And they tend to doubt the new thing as a
> > default because not much that's been sold to them
> > in the past has done much for them.
> >
> > Add to that the focus that Maharishi and TM have put
> > on "scientific verification" of something (enlight-
> > enment) that defies even *subjective* verification,
> > and you've got a interesting mix -- people who
> > profess to be seekers, but who have been programmed
> > to automatically reject that which they seek.
> 
> It is amazing isn't it? It's amazing what clever marketing can do.
> 
> I think the best example of this is their selling of the word and 
the  
> idea "transcendental". It leads people to believe that what they 
are  
> getting is actually transcendental. One of the ways they keep up 
the  
> facade is to use english terms and avoid the original sanskrit 
terms  
> as much as possible. Once you begin to look closely at what 
technical  
> terms in yoga, etc. are actually translated as "transcendental", 
you  
> see see that TM at best gives a momentary glimpse, that's all. It's 
a  
> good intro. What they sell people on is really a thought-free 
state,  
> not a transcendental state. And the closer you look, the further 
you  
> see this deceptive marketing goes. It's so deceptive most people  
> don't even realize they are being lied to.
> 
> One wonders since siddhi performance increases the force of our  
> delusions (maya-shakti) if that was the idea: increase delusion, 
push  
> sales.
>

What sanskrit terms specifically are you referring to?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy and TorquiseB

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I got you all beat.
> > 
> > It's Dennis and Margaret.
> 
> You got me laughing with that one, Shemp. :-)
> I can't disagree -- Dennis is indeed a 
> menace and have you *ever* encountered 
> anyone in literature more uptight and
> anal retentive than Margaret? :-)
>

So you identify with the female in this one. Interesting...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Announcement of A New Folder: Baseless Cla

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In 
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Unc writes: bigest snippereion
> > None of the reactions affect those of us who are merely
> > Relating Our Stories terribly much. We're just Relating
> > Our Stories. They're *ours*, man, not yours. Yours may
> > *never* be like ours. Yours may be better. We (and I think
> > I speak for a few people here) are content to just tell stories.
> > How the audience around the campfire reacts to the stories
> > is their business, not ours.
> > 
> > Tom T Opinion:
> > Amen Brother. If you don't like the story go get a different 
> > channel. Not my job to change your channel, prove it or figure 
> > it out. It is all just for fun. Stories have never been anything 
> > but fun. Enjoy, good storytelling and happy trails to you until 
> > we meet again.!
> 
> It's just utterly fascinating to me how people who
> have been involved in the TM movement or other "We've
> got the answers if you've got the cash" spiritual
> movements get warped by that over the years. They
> tend to react to everything spiritual that they 
> encounter as if someone is trying to sell them some-
> thing. And they tend to doubt the new thing as a 
> default because not much that's been sold to them
> in the past has done much for them.
> 
> Add to that the focus that Maharishi and TM have put
> on "scientific verification" of something (enlight-
> enment) that defies even *subjective* verification,
> and you've got a interesting mix -- people who
> profess to be seekers, but who have been programmed
> to automatically reject that which they seek.
>

Actually, subjective verification of ANY conscious state is 
difficult, if not impossible...

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[FairfieldLife] Peace on Earth

Title: Peace on Earth





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy and TorquiseB

> > > > [...]
> > > > > I find their banter delightfully refreshing. Sort of like 
> > abbott and
> > > > > costello. Or Laurel and Hardy. Martin and Dean. Perhaps 
> Rocky 
> > and
> > > > > Bullwinkle.
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > Boris and Natasha fits better, I think...
> > > 
> > > 
> > > But that would be sexist stereotyping. Like saying Tracy and 
> > Hepburn.
> > > Or Burns and Allen. Or Bruce Willis and Cybil Shepard.
> > >
> > 
> > Ideally, Jackie Gleason and Audrey Meadows: "Someday Alice..."

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Headphones

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 12/16/05 4:28 PM, braaahmaan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Yikes -- I just read your post "carefully". You said "not ear plugs" .
> 
> Maybe I would like earplugs, but my wife would be sharing these with
me -
> she would use them to watch TV and not disturb me while I'm
meditating or
> practicing tablas; I would use them to listen to music while at my
computer
> and not disturb her. Do these ear plugs have good bass? I have a
nice set of
> speakers on my computer with a sub-woofer and I'd miss the bass if they
> didn't.
>

Its good enough for me -- but its a subjective thing. It has good
specs, but you would need to hear. Plus, most mp3 players have "super"
bass options -- which may give you enuf of a subwoofer sound to
satisfy you. 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Headphones

2005-12-17 Thread bbrigante

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[FairfieldLife] Peace on Earth

2005-12-17 Thread Dick Mays

Title: Peace on Earth




Elevating music, great message!  Let's
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Thank you.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: loans for TM- details- where to apply

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ron F <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- Sharalyn Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > From: Sharalyn Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:24:33 -0600
> > Subject: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] FW: loans for TM
> > 
> > 
> > --
> > > From: Bill Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:35:46 -0600
> > > To: Sharalyn Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Subject: Re: loans for TM
> > > 
> > > info on TM, and where the nearest TM center and TM teacher is
located:
> > > http://www.mum.edu/tmcourse/
> > > 
> > > infor on the academic credit and loan for learning TM:
> > > http://tm.org/learn/where/index.html
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > At 11:27 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote:
> > >> Dear Friends,
> > >> 
> > >> I have heard that there are loans available for starting TM.
Can you please
> > >> send info to me about it?
> > >> 
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Sharalyn Harris
> > > 
> > > Bill Christensen
> > > Director of Financial Aid
> > > 
> > > Enrollment Center
> > > Maharishi University of Management
> > > Fairfield, IA 52557
> > > 
> > > (641) 472-1156

Next -The TM Master Card "The REAL Co(s)mic Karmic Credit Card" 

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[FairfieldLife] He ring a bell?


Tunkelo?

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Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: from the pandits in India

2005-12-17 Thread MDixon6569







In a message dated 12/17/05 1:45:57 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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Maybe 
  the pundits should have their colors 
done.Sal

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Satya Yug in India.??

2005-12-17 Thread Premanand Paul Mason

Indian newspapers all too frequently carry news of man's inhumanity 
to man. The reports of murder bring a kneejerk reaction of revulsion, 
but the hidden unspoken news is that good healthcare for many is 
beyond their pockets.

Having spent about five weeks recently visiting a Delhi hospital, I 
am very impressed by the close co-operation of Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, 
and Christian peoples in working together in harmony for the common 
good, utilising up-to-date technology and methods. For me this is 
cause to feel a measure of optimism for India's future. But they need 
help in reaching out to the disadvantaged poor. They need money. They 
need it to treat the very poor, the sweepers and the skivvies. I am 
no Bob Geldorf but anyway please give them your bloody money!

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raped and brutally murdered by the company's driver, leading to 
police and Nasscom chief Kiran Karnik stressing the need for IT/BPO 
firms to provide security to women on night duty. 
>   
>   The 24-year-old woman employee of HP GlobalSoft was killed early 
on Tuesday and the accused arrested in the night. The incident came 
to light only after her husband lodged a kidnapping complaint with 
the police. 
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>   Deputy Commissioner of Police (DCP) Alok Kumar said the driver, 
Shiv Kumar, had confessed to raping and murdering the woman after he 
picked her up from her house for night duty. 
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company's driver took her to Anjanapura on the outskirts of Bangalore 
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when she tried to raise an alarm and call the office on her mobile. 
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>   "She was the lone employee being ferried to the office for duty 
at that odd hour," the police official said. He criticised the 
multinational firm for not providing security to its women employees 
on night duty for escorting them to office and back home. 
>   
>   "The accused driver even robbed the victim of her mobile and cash 
(Rs300) before disappearing from the spot. It is a clear case of a 
security lapse. The company should provide escorts while transporting 
its women staff, especially on night duties," the DCP pointed out. 
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Companies (Nasscom) president Kiran Karnik said IT/BPO firms would 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] FW: from the pandits in India

2005-12-17 Thread Sal Sunshine

Maybe the pundits should have their colors done.

Sal


On Dec 17, 2005, at 10:50 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

 he clarifies even the colour of the clothes that the
 pandits should or should not be wearing.

[FairfieldLife] Satya Yug in India.??

2005-12-17 Thread Jason Spock

Woman BPO worker killed in Bangalore Web posted at: 12/17/2005 1:55:17 Source ::: IANS Bangalore: A woman working in a call centre here was allegedly raped and brutally murdered by the company's driver, leading to police and Nasscom chief Kiran Karnik stressing the need for IT/BPO firms to provide security to women on night duty. The 24-year-old woman employee of HP GlobalSoft was killed early on Tuesday and the accused arrested in the night. The incident came to light only after her
husband lodged a kidnapping complaint with the police. Deputy Commissioner of Police (DCP) Alok Kumar said the driver, Shiv Kumar, had confessed to raping and murdering the woman after he picked her up from her house for night duty. "Instead of taking her to the office in electronics city, the company's driver took her to Anjanapura on the outskirts of Bangalore and raped her around 3am Tuesday," Alok Kumar said. In his confession, Shiv Kumar said he slit her throat in panic when she tried to raise an alarm and call the office on her mobile. "She was the lone employee being ferried to the office for duty at that odd hour," the police official said. He criticised the multinational firm for not providing security to its women employees on night duty for escorting them to office and back home. "The accused driver even robbed the victim of
her mobile and cash (Rs300) before disappearing from the spot. It is a clear case of a security lapse. The company should provide escorts while transporting its women staff, especially on night duties," the DCP pointed out. Expressing shock, National Association of Software and Service Companies (Nasscom) president Kiran Karnik said IT/BPO firms would have to provide security to women employees, particularly at night. __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Howard Sterns' Unboundedness

2005-12-17 Thread shempmcgurk

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> Good thing Howard is regular in his TM, otherwise we'd
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> not for the juvenile content of his show, but for his
> absolute, self-effacing honesty. This is the only
> reason he's so successful. Others have tried to copy
> him but they always fail because they are not
> authentic. You should see the interview of Howard with
> Bill O'Rielly. Bill looks like a fool in the front of
> the simple honesty of Howard.


I agree.  If the shockjock stuff was the only thing Howard was good 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Inciting racial hatred or not (was, question about Ma...

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         Bajrang Dal  people are hardcore Hindu fundies.  Untouchables want to escape the Hindu dogmas, but converting to islam or christianity is not the solution.         As I said, Buddhism is a far better alternative for them.       OriginalMessage-  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:15:36 EST Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inciting racial hatred or not (was, question about Ma...     In a message dated 12/16/05 10:41:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:   An Australian missionary Graham Staines was burnt alive along with his two sons in January 1999.     By fundamentalist Hindus?     I'm not sure about this specific case, but Hindu fundamentalist have killed a number of Christian missionaries in recent years. They seem to have a real problem with untouchables leaving their religion and finding some kind of social acceptance and equality among
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Headphones

2005-12-17 Thread L B Shriver

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Sennheiser HD 215's. Love 'em. Wife wants some Bose noise cancelling  
> HP's (perhaps to drown me out)--anyone try them?
> 
> On Dec 16, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > Can any of you music buffs recommend headphones (not earplugs) in  
> > the $100-$150 range?
>

I just Googled:  noise cancelling headphones rating

and got too much infor to post.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Read along with Tom

2005-12-17 Thread jim_flanegin

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> "The third component of the Law of Least Effort is defenselessness, 
which means that your awareness is established in defenselessness, and 
you have relinquished the need to convince or persuade others of your 
point of view.  If you observe people around you, you'll see that they 
spend ninety-nine percent of their time defending their point of 
view.  If you just relinquish the need to defend your point of view, 
you will in that relinquishment, gain access to enormous amounts of 
energy that have been previously wasted."
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Announcement of A New Folder: Baseless Cla

2005-12-17 Thread jim_flanegin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> On Dec 17, 2005, at 3:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > It's just utterly fascinating to me how people who
> > have been involved in the TM movement or other "We've
> > got the answers if you've got the cash" spiritual
> > movements get warped by that over the years. They
> > tend to react to everything spiritual that they
> > encounter as if someone is trying to sell them some-
> > thing. And they tend to doubt the new thing as a
> > default because not much that's been sold to them
> > in the past has done much for them.
> >
> > Add to that the focus that Maharishi and TM have put
> > on "scientific verification" of something (enlight-
> > enment) that defies even *subjective* verification,
> > and you've got a interesting mix -- people who
> > profess to be seekers, but who have been programmed
> > to automatically reject that which they seek.
> 
> It is amazing isn't it? It's amazing what clever marketing can do.
> 
> I think the best example of this is their selling of the word and 
the  
> idea "transcendental". It leads people to believe that what they 
are  
> getting is actually transcendental. One of the ways they keep up 
the  
> facade is to use english terms and avoid the original sanskrit 
terms  
> as much as possible. Once you begin to look closely at what 
technical  
> terms in yoga, etc. are actually translated as "transcendental", 
you  
> see see that TM at best gives a momentary glimpse, that's all. 
It's a  
> good intro. What they sell people on is really a thought-free 
state,  
> not a transcendental state. And the closer you look, the further 
you  
> see this deceptive marketing goes. It's so deceptive most people  
> don't even realize they are being lied to.
> 
> One wonders since siddhi performance increases the force of our  
> delusions (maya-shakti) if that was the idea: increase delusion, 
push  
> sales.
>
I must take exception with your generalizations about TM. I started 
TM at the age of 21. I also worked for the TMO. The technique has 
always worked flawlessly for me, just as advertised, just as I was 
told it would. Some conclusions:

1. Beyond wanting to explore the knowledge beyond the door that my 
practice of TM opened for me, I was not into TM like a groupie, 
waiting for the next 'greatest hit' to emerge from  the Movement, so 
much of the silliness passed me by, while I continued to meditate 
habitually 2x a day.

2. I've never experienced strain during the practice, or 
alternatively looked to it for flashy experiences, because that 
wasn't the way it was taught or marketed to me. I have always 
experienced it as a way to clear out and untangle my nervous system, 
one shovelful of muck at a time. Over 30 years, it has worked as 
advertised.

3. What I have learned is that TM is a useful tool. Period. When the 
TMO began proclaiming how I should live my life, that isn't why I 
learned, or do, the technique. 

I have always appreciated the nearly transparent grafting of the 
technique onto my highly individualistic way of being, without 
feeling that somehow the experience isn't complete if I wasn't 
hanging around with a bunch of TMers and supporting our experiences 
with a cult-like groupthink.

I stopped working for the Movement because my experience led me to 
believe that those with the power in the organization were less 
interested in pursuing enlightenment, than they were in 
consolidating their power base, and mood-making. That was when I 
came up with the phrase that I've mentioned before, to characterize 
their thinking, "Unbounded awareness is great, but enough's 
enough...".  

I was gripped by the Self during my last days with them, and ran 
through the lot of them like a knife through butter. It was quite a 
sight to see, and brings a chuckle to me even twenty years later.

PS In all fairness there were also a few Governors I met, like Paul 
Moreland and Mark Piper, who were true to themselves. 

4. Seeing as how TM is just one very useful tool in life's toolbox, 
the thing I learned after meditating for years, was that I had to 
own my own shit. 

TM was not a magic wand. This imo is where a LOT of practitioners of 
sapritual practice get stuck- that crucial piece after gaining some 
clarity and perspective on our lives, to work on our relative 
nature; our bodies, our personalities, our interpersonal 
relationships, the residue of our past challenges. All of it. Just 
by doing TM, that stuff doesn't magically fix itself. However, I was 
never told that it would either.

5. TM was always meant as a technique for the masses. Does everyone 
have a good experience with it? No, but the same could be said of 
any technique. However, for people like me with a very 
individualistic streak, it works great!

Regarding the generalizations made about the technique itself, it 
depends where you look for your conclusions. I recall many years ago 
being exposed outside Japan to Buddhis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Headphones

2005-12-17 Thread uns_tressor

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Can any of you music buffs recommend headphones (not earplugs) in the
> > $100-$150 range?
> 
> Give Beyer Dynamics a try out at your local shop. Try
> Which? magazine:
> http://trial.which.co.uk/audio_visual_equipment.php?p_id=312
> Uns.
These people did a survey a year or so ago and
Grado came out with flying colours. But not good
for shielding from ambient noise. But you have
to hear them to see. (I heard that the Bose noise
cancelling doesn't actually work).
Uns.






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[FairfieldLife] Deepak's Next Effort....

2005-12-17 Thread bostonbob53

 Deepak Chopra's Kama Sutra
According to Publishers Weekly, Deepak Chopra has received a
six-figure advance from Virgin Books to rewrite Vatsyayana's Kama
Sutra. An article in yesterday's HindustanTimes has a bit more detail:

The deal has been described as bringing together two of India's
well-known and established brands. The book might be called Deepak
Chopra's Kama Sutra: Timeless Erotica for the Virgin Mind...

Originally the (Kama Sutra) served purely as erotic literature for
kings and queens, said Chopra. But he believes that there is a great
connection between sexuality and spirituality. He wants to explore
that and take the carnal experience to new heights of spiritual
ecstasy. Link

And here's Guruphiliac's take on it:

As much as we find Chopra a pabulum factory for Hollywood's seeker
set, he's sidled right on up to the next hottness in spirituality:
freedom from sexual guilt and Victorian-era moral repression.

While we're sure Chopra will palpify it in no time, it's still a
signficant development in the alternative spiritual scene. But just
because Chopra is Indian doesn't mean he's a master of doing it. It's
too bad Virgin didn't have the vision to hire someone with more
affinity for the subject matter. We imagine rock star Tommy Lee and a
bevy of beautiful Sanskrit scholars locked in a hotel room for a week
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[FairfieldLife] Read along with Tom

2005-12-17 Thread Tom Pall






"The third component of the Law of Least Effort is 
defenselessness, which means that your awareness is established in 
defenselessness, and you have relinquished the need to convince or persuade 
others of your point of view.  If you observe people around you, you'll see 
that they spend ninety-nine percent of their time defending their point of 
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will in that relinquishment, gain access to enormous amounts of energy that have 
been previously wasted."
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Announcement of A New Folder: Baseless Cla

2005-12-17 Thread authfriend

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 17, 2005, at 3:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > It's just utterly fascinating to me how people who
> > have been involved in the TM movement or other "We've
> > got the answers if you've got the cash" spiritual
> > movements get warped by that over the years. They
> > tend to react to everything spiritual that they
> > encounter as if someone is trying to sell them some-
> > thing. And they tend to doubt the new thing as a
> > default because not much that's been sold to them
> > in the past has done much for them.
> >
> > Add to that the focus that Maharishi and TM have put
> > on "scientific verification" of something (enlight-
> > enment) that defies even *subjective* verification,
> > and you've got a interesting mix -- people who
> > profess to be seekers, but who have been programmed
> > to automatically reject that which they seek.
> 
> It is amazing isn't it? It's amazing what clever marketing can do.
> 
> I think the best example of this is their selling of the word and
> the idea "transcendental". It leads people to believe that what 
> they are getting is actually transcendental. One of the ways they 
> keep up the facade is to use english terms and avoid the original 
> sanskrit terms as much as possible. Once you begin to look closely 
> at what technical terms in yoga, etc. are actually translated 
> as "transcendental", you see see that TM at best gives a momentary 
> glimpse, that's all.

Why don't you give us some examples of the original
Sanskrit technical terms in yoga that are translated
as "transcendental," Vaj, and explain how this shows
that TM gives only a momentary glimpse?

 It's a  good intro. What they sell people on 
> is really a thought-free state, not a transcendental state.

And you make this distinction on what basis, exactly?

> And the 
> closer you look, the further you see this deceptive marketing goes. 
> It's so deceptive most people don't even realize they are being 
> lied to.
> 
> One wonders since siddhi performance increases the force of our  
> delusions (maya-shakti) if that was the idea: increase delusion, 
> push sales.

I believe a couple of alternate translations of this were
suggested that said something quite different, but I don't
recall your having commented on them.







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Announcement of A New Folder: Baseless Cla

2005-12-17 Thread jim_flanegin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Dec 17, 2005, at 3:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:
> 
> > It's just utterly fascinating to me how people who
> > have been involved in the TM movement or other "We've
> > got the answers if you've got the cash" spiritual
> > movements get warped by that over the years. They
> > tend to react to everything spiritual that they
> > encounter as if someone is trying to sell them some-
> > thing. And they tend to doubt the new thing as a
> > default because not much that's been sold to them
> > in the past has done much for them.
> >
> > Add to that the focus that Maharishi and TM have put
> > on "scientific verification" of something (enlight-
> > enment) that defies even *subjective* verification,
> > and you've got a interesting mix -- people who
> > profess to be seekers, but who have been programmed
> > to automatically reject that which they seek.
> 
> It is amazing isn't it? It's amazing what clever marketing can do.
> 
> I think the best example of this is their selling of the word and 
the  
> idea "transcendental". It leads people to believe that what they 
are  
> getting is actually transcendental. One of the ways they keep up 
the  
> facade is to use english terms and avoid the original sanskrit 
terms  
> as much as possible. Once you begin to look closely at what 
technical  
> terms in yoga, etc. are actually translated as "transcendental", 
you  
> see see that TM at best gives a momentary glimpse, that's all. 
It's a  
> good intro. What they sell people on is really a thought-free 
state,  
> not a transcendental state. And the closer you look, the further 
you  
> see this deceptive marketing goes. It's so deceptive most people  
> don't even realize they are being lied to.
> 
> One wonders since siddhi performance increases the force of our  
> delusions (maya-shakti) if that was the idea: increase delusion, 
push  
> sales.
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[FairfieldLife] Google Music Search

It's new. Try it:

http://www.google.com/musicsearch

Google Can Name That Tune

By: John Stith

The newest aspect of Google's massive searching entity has launched
and it's a music search. Basically, the jist is they've added more
details for music-oriented searches. While the search right now is
somewhat limited, they do plan on expanding the listings.

The search lists artists, their albums and songs. It provides routes
to pick up music, albums and individual songs through various sites.
At this point, it's not hard to find popular music or something
that's been around for a while like Elvis, but other things are
little more difficult. Google said on their blog they plan to offer
classical music, worldwide artists and lesser-known artists.

Right now the music search feature mostly works for artists popular
in the U.S. and a more limited number of artists from other
countries, but we plan to expand it to classical music, worldwide
artists, and lesser-known performers.

Google's not the first search entity to try music search though.
Companies like GoFish Technologies have been doing this search
since September. They've got a music/video content search and they
say it's workable with any search engine. They also put together a
"Search-by-Lyrics" feature back in June and a play list publication
enterprise as well.

This new move by Google will surely be followed by other search
engines. The question comes from whether or not they will create
their own or will they be willing to work with a company like GoFish
and just integrate and existing product?   




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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inciting racial hatred or not (was, question about Ma...

2005-12-17 Thread MDixon6569







In a message dated 12/17/05 9:53:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I'm not sure about this specific case, but Hindu 
fundamentalist have killed a number of Christian missionaries in recent 
years. They seem to have a real problem with untouchables leaving their 
religion and finding some kind of social acceptance and equality among 
Christians.At the 
  Amherst one-month course in the summer of ‘71 someone at the mike compared 
  initiators with missionaries and MMY flew into a tirade the likes of which I 
  had never heard (I’ve heard him do others since). He was screaming “we’re not 
  missionaries” and ranting about how missionaries came to India preaching their 
  false God and corrupted the cultural integrity of the land. 

I remember that, I was there. I don't remember him saying 
anything about a false god, but do remember him saying he hated the missionaries 
and the last thing India needed was another God. Somehow I don't think 
missionaries corrupted India's culture. < Quite frankly the TMO has become 
missionaries spreading the "Vedic" religion as enthusiastically as Christians 
have tried to spread the Gosple. 





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[FairfieldLife] FW: from the pandits in India

-- Forwarded Message
From: Blaine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:46:25 -0500
To: 
Subject: from the pandits in india

this i just received from a pandit friend of mine in india
regarding the kalasarpa dosha email which is being sent around. i
had asked for further clarification regarding yagyas as well as
some people had been coming across websites which were mentioning
how yagyas should be done.  he clarifies which mantras are to be
used and how. he clarifies even the colour of the clothes that the
pandits should or should not be wearing.  each of the planets is
having a particular colour and one website mentions that for
mercury (budha) the pandits should wear green colour since that is
the colour of mercury. i had never heard anything like that before
and had never seen it anywhere in india so i asked about that.  i
have known this pandit for many many years and have lived with him
and studied jyotish and yagya for extended periods of time. as you
know i never recommend anything that i have not tried or done
myself or anyone whom i have not met or dealt with personally.  i
also favour tradtional, authentic approaches and assiduously avoid
those who place their own spin or intellectual interpretation on
this knowledge. this pandit scores very high in my books on every
level.

December 17,2005

Dear Blaine
I did not see kalsarpa figure in the sky at this time. So,I am not
commenting anything about her that why she the saying this.

I am a Vedic astrologer and believed in vedic mantra only. I never
used tantrik manta, because sometime tantrik manta gave harmful
effect on pandit and person (for whom yagya is done). Vedic mantra
is much more powerful and it does not give any harmful effect on
anyone.

Veda is the knowledge of Brahma. Veda¹s mantra give the fulfillment
of desires.Every mantra has Rashi, Devata and Chhand.

It is not necessary that number of pandit should be 5 to 21 pandits
or upto 101Pandits. Its only depends upon how large yagya is¹. If
yagya is small in size then number of pandit become less (less then
5 pandits also) and when yagya is large then number of  pandit
become more (more then 101pandits also).

 the Pandits are doing Trikal Sandhya and Gayatri Mantra Japa.They
also do pooja of every planet, Devata, Adhi Devata and Partyadi
Devata every day in morning time. Our¹s Pandit do yagya 8 hours in
a day. After yagya pandit do hawan .Pandit wear yellow colour and
red colour cloth (Pitamber) and sometime white also.
  I read a website and come to know that for Bhudha
similar colour is green So, pandit should wear green dress for
doing Bhudha¹s yagya. I want to comment on it that If pandit will
wear green colour for Bhudha¹s yagya then for Sani,Rahu and ketu
(similar colour is black) pandit should wear black colour dress.
Which(black colour) is not suit for Veda. I never seen black or
green colour  dress
of vedic pandits inVeda, Sashtra. According to me only tantrik
pandit used black colour for their yagya.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Announcement of A New Folder: Baseless Cla

2005-12-17 Thread Vaj

On Dec 17, 2005, at 3:21 AM, TurquoiseB wrote:It's just utterly fascinating to me how people who have been involved in the TM movement or other "We've got the answers if you've got the cash" spiritual movements get warped by that over the years. They tend to react to everything spiritual that they encounter as if someone is trying to sell them some- thing. And they tend to doubt the new thing as a default because not much that's been sold to them in the past has done much for them. Add to that the focus that Maharishi and TM have put on "scientific verification" of something (enlight- enment) that defies even *subjective* verification, and you've got a interesting mix -- people who profess to be seekers, but who have been programmed to automatically reject that which they seek. It is amazing isn't it? It's amazing what clever marketing can do.I think the best example of this is their selling of the word and the idea "transcendental". It leads people to believe that what they are getting is actually transcendental. One of the ways they keep up the facade is to use english terms and avoid the original sanskrit terms as much as possible. Once you begin to look closely at what technical terms in yoga, etc. are actually translated as "transcendental", you see see that TM at best gives a momentary glimpse, that's all. It's a good intro. What they sell people on is really a thought-free state, not a transcendental state. And the closer you look, the further you see this deceptive marketing goes. It's so deceptive most people don't even realize they are being lied to.One wonders since siddhi performance increases the force of our delusions (maya-shakti) if that was the idea: increase delusion, push sales.

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[FairfieldLife] FW: loans for TM- details- where to apply

2005-12-17 Thread Ron F



--- Sharalyn Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> From: Sharalyn Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:24:33 -0600
> Subject: [Fairfield_Community_Kiosk] FW: loans for TM
> 
> 
> --
> > From: Bill Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:35:46 -0600
> > To: Sharalyn Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: loans for TM
> > 
> > info on TM, and where the nearest TM center and TM teacher is located:
> > http://www.mum.edu/tmcourse/
> > 
> > infor on the academic credit and loan for learning TM:
> > http://tm.org/learn/where/index.html
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > At 11:27 AM 12/15/2005, you wrote:
> >> Dear Friends,
> >> 
> >> I have heard that there are loans available for starting TM. Can you please
> >> send info to me about it?
> >> 
> >> Thanks,
> >> Sharalyn Harris
> > 
> > Bill Christensen
> > Director of Financial Aid
> > 
> > Enrollment Center
> > Maharishi University of Management
> > Fairfield, IA 52557
> > 
> > (641) 472-1156
> > 
> 
> 


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Headphones

on 12/17/05 5:29 AM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> 
>> on 12/16/05 4:28 PM, braaahmaan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yikes -- I just read your post "carefully". You said "not ear
> plugs" .
>> 
>> Maybe I would like earplugs, but my wife would be sharing these with
> me -
>> she would use them to watch TV and not disturb me while I'm
> meditating or
>> practicing tablas;
> 
> How much do decent tablas cost? Do you always tune them
> up to the basic note of some raaga?

My tabla teacher (David Hurlin) can get a good set through his tabla teacher
in India for about $300. As Dr. Pete suggests, the same set would probably
cost $500 elsewhere. I haven't done that yet. I've only been playing a few
months and want to make sure I stick to it before investing in good ones. So
far I'm practicing regularly and progressing nicely.

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[FairfieldLife] The Akasha psyche behind Braaahmaan's posting

2005-12-17 Thread tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis

Since a certain unnamed individual abused the anon log in a lurker
friend who is not a member and can no longer post asked me to post
this as his obversation/opinion cognition. 

--- braaahmaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

An new folder in the FILES section (see uper left portion of FFL Home
Page) has been created to track, the surprisingly increasing, claims
made on FL. Yes must track, must track, must track) and reduce must
reduce must reduce chaos, chaos must reduce), yes increasing,
increasing, increasing, always fucking increasing number of baseless
and/or unsubstantiated (baseless yes, baseless, baseless they are all
baseless)


Here is the FAQ for that folder.


1) Make one file for each general unsubstantiated claim. (Yes make a
file, yes make a file, make a file) (To reduce clutter, clutter must
be reduced, reduced reduced reduced, clutter bad, clutter bad, clutter
bad please group near similar claims in the same file.)

In each file, provide:

2) Provide a URL to the post of the alleged bogus claim, and key (URL
for bogus clutter, bogus, bogus, bogus only) quotes of the claim.
(That's the key, That's the key, That's the key)

3) Politely ask the poster for specific clarification and back-up of
(clarify and back up, clarify and back up, be polite, be polite, be
polite, specific only, specific only, specific only) his claim(s).
Provide the URL of that post.

4) Provide URL of original posters response, or citation that after a
(more URL, more URL, match and cross reference, match and cross
reference, must have back up and clarity, back up and clarity, verify,
bring order, must have order) week, no resposnse of clarification or
backup was made.

5) Cite URLs and summaries of subsequent relevant posts on the issue.
(relevant, relevant, relevant, must pertain, must must must 

6) Provide a summary as to why you feel the claim has not been
clarified and substantiated. (clarify and substantiate, yes must prove
the MF's wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, must be right, right ,right,
order, clarity, summary, clarify and substantiate, clarify and
substantiate clarify and substantiate 

7) When an adequate response is received, publicly thank the poster
for the clarification. (thank, thank, thank, polite, polite, polite,
must be polite, and better,better, better, show them,  show them, show
them, show the superior way, superior, superior.the fools)

8) If there is an inadequate response, post to FFL a summary of the
file: claim made, the inadequacy of response, etc. , with URL of the
claim's file. (inadequate, inadequate, yes it will always be, post to
show how stupid they are, how disorderly, how unclear, how
unsummarized, how inferior, how unsubstantial, baseless, baseless,
baseless, it is all baseless, file it, file, file file,

9) As files accumulate, and index and summary file for all claim files
will be made. (yes, yes ,yes index, we must have an index, indexes are
good, good, good, good))

10) Do not make perosnal attacks on persons or motives. Simply state
the facts. (no personal attacks, just show how stupid they are,
inconsequential, baseless, inferior, chaotic, unorganized, get it all
categorized, summarized, clarified, filed, foldered, uncluttered, JUST
THE FACTS, MAAM, JUST THE FACTS, MAAM, JUST THE FACTS, MAAM, JUST THE
FACTS, MAAM; STUPID PSYCHOLOGISTS) Just being humorous, humor, humor,
humor, disguise, disguise..J , :J J just my clever sense of humor,
clever clever

11) This is a moderated folder. Files with inconsequential material
and personal disputes will be returned to the "filer" and discarded
from this folder. (I moderate, moderate, moderate, moderate, eliminate
inconsequential, cluttered up poo poo ca ca, discard them, discard,
discard, all the inferiors, unclear thinkers, must have order,
categories, lots of categories, files, index them, index them, show
the way , the way , the way, follow me, follow my lead,  must have
control, control, control, get it all filed, clarified, categorized,
indexed, structured my way, my way, my way, THE way, THE way, THE way)
 right, right, right, have to be, have to be, have to be, always
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inciting racial hatred or not (was, question about Ma...

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inciting racial hatred or not (was, question about Ma...





on 12/17/05 8:15 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

In a message dated 12/16/05 10:41:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   An Australian missionary Graham  Staines was burnt alive along with his two sons in January 1999. 

By  fundamentalist Hindus? 

I'm not sure about this specific case, but Hindu fundamentalist have killed a number of Christian missionaries in recent years. They seem to have a real problem with untouchables leaving their religion and finding some kind of social acceptance and equality among Christians.


At the Amherst one-month course in the summer of ‘71 someone at the mike compared initiators with missionaries and MMY flew into a tirade the likes of which I had never heard (I’ve heard him do others since). He was screaming “we’re not missionaries” and ranting about how missionaries came to India preaching their false God and corrupted the cultural integrity of the land.






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy and TorquiseB

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I got you all beat.
> > > > 
> > > > It's Dennis and Margaret.
> > > 
> > > You got me laughing with that one, Shemp. :-)
> > > I can't disagree -- Dennis is indeed a 
> > > menace and have you *ever* encountered 
> > > anyone in literature more uptight and
> > > anal retentive than Margaret? :-)
> > >
> > 
> > But their 1961 Chevy Impala looks like a treat!
> > 
> > http://www.roaminangelsinc.com/HTMLS/Chevy/LC61Dennis.html
> 
> Flash from the past! I learned to drive in a car
> exactly like that.
>

Looks like where the Corvair body style came from. Learned in a '53
Ford stick, tested in '65 Mustang auto ;-) 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO as a valid employer

2005-12-17 Thread Ingegerd

What Acem say, is that they give out a sound. They do not do the 
Puja because they do not want to be associated with Hindu and 
Religion. The interesting thing is that it has been done some 
research of the effect of their Meditation Technique,at a University 
in Norway. And the effect is very good as a stress release 
technique. Like the TM-Technique. They have Yoga Classes and a lot 
of themes that they give courses in. The Leader for ACEM is a well-
known psychiatrist. 
Ingegerd

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> No puja = no parashakti. Slow, slow path. A dead
> mantra. Too bad. Why were they so arrogant as to
> remove the puja? Who's name do they teach in? They're
> own? Where do they say this practice came from, the
> tradition of Gunther? Sound like spiritual fools to
> me. Of course all IMHO
> -Sri Peter (Knows everything)
> 
> --- Ingegerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know if some TM-Teachers has been in
> > court with the TMO? 
> > In Norway we had one case in the 70ths, where some
> > TM-Teachers were 
> > kicked out of the TMO, and they started their own
> > organisation, 
> > teaching Transcendental Meditation. It was a
> > Court-Case where the 
> > TMO lost. Afterwards it came to an Agreement that
> > the TMO paid a lot 
> > of money to the New Organisation not to use the
> > words Transcendental 
> > meditation. The New Organisation named ACEM is very
> > successfull in 
> > Norway, they are holding courses everywhere
> > regularly, they own 
> > Hotels with great Standards and is very much
> > respected. They have 
> > changed the procedure, do not perform Puja, and has
> > taken away 
> > everything that reminds about MMY. Why they was
> > banned, was that 
> > they started to ask questions about the TMO,
> > bookcounting, where 
> > does the money go, the dogma and MMY.
> > Ingegerd
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tmforlife108"
> > 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > TMO as a valid employer
> > > 
> > > It will be interesting to see how things shape up
> > in South Florida 
> > with the independent TM 
> > > teacher there.  He recently posted here that he is
> > having trouble 
> > with advertising TM as an 
> > > "unrecertified teacher". The TMO is trying to
> > block that 
> > activity.  Goldstein with MUM legal 
> > > had written a letter to a magazine there. I just
> > found out Mike 
> > Scozzari has received the 
> > > standard cease and desist letter from a law firm
> > representing the 
> > TMO.  Mike said his legal 
> > > counsel is advising him not to respond to threats
> > unless ordered 
> > by the courts. In addition 
> > > to a legal team, he has a publicist here in San
> > Francisco that 
> > wants to do a feature on 
> > > independents who teach for less should this go to
> > court.
> > > 
> > > Back in 1993  here in California one independent
> > TM teacher (a 
> > regular to fairfieldlife) told 
> > > me he advised  the movement they would only hurt
> > themselves if 
> > they took legal action 
> > > against him.  The court and publicity could
> > potentially uncover a 
> > long list of TMO errors 
> > > and embarrassments.  If they threatened trademark
> > infringement in 
> > 1993 but didn't take 
> > > legal action over all these years,  any judge
> > would question the 
> > validity of an unprotected 
> > > trademark. The California teacher referred to here
> > teaches TM as 
> > an independent today 
> > > and has helped many people learn the technique
> > charging much less 
> > than the national 
> > > average, He is successful because he is a good
> > teacher.  Lets not 
> > get lost  criticizing him 
> > > for not sharing the income with national.  They
> > make that 
> > impossible for someone who 
> > > wants to make a living at this.  Teachers should
> > be making the 
> > majority of the course fee 
> > > with a small percentage going to the TMO for a
> > franchise fee.  
> > That wold never happen as 
> > > the movement would not have a stronghold on the
> > purse and 
> > therefore a stronghold on 
> > > the teacher.
> > > 
> > > With the latest round of TMO stupidity and
> > recertification to 
> > teach, and with promises for 
> > > salaries not kept, what legitimate U.S. court
> > would accept the TMO 
> > as a valid employer?  
> > >  I agree in part with an earlier post from spraig@
> > - The TMO does 
> > have the right to it's 
> > > trademark protection. L'm not an attorney either
> > but if the owner 
> > of the trademark fails to 
> > > protect it and misuses it..that could be a
> > very interesting 
> > question for the courts to look 
> > > at. The TMO has demonstrated itself to be an
> > unreliable employer 
> > incapable of fulfilling 
> > > it's promises, withdrawing promised salaries with
> > the latest 
> > recertification project. If 
> > > teachers pay to train to teach and the trademark
> > owner makes that 
> > impossible, who then 
> > > ha

[FairfieldLife] Re: Howard Sterns' Unboundedness

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> DYING BREED. THIS IS A BIG MOMENT. WE BROKE EVERY RULE KNOWN TO RADIO
> AND MANKIND. THE GOVERNMENT SAYS CLEAN UP YOUR ACT, WE SAY NEVER.'
> 
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>
If yahoo uses an unintelligent scanner - the above would be enough to
keep FFL in the adult catagory. How silly is that?

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[FairfieldLife] Answers if you've got the cash! WAS A New Folder: Baseless Claims

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>
> --- In 
> FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Unc writes: bigest snippereion
> > None of the reactions affect those of us who are merely
> > Relating Our Stories terribly much. We're just Relating
> > Our Stories. They're *ours*, man, not yours. Yours may
> > *never* be like ours. Yours may be better. We (and I think
> > I speak for a few people here) are content to just tell stories.
> > How the audience around the campfire reacts to the stories
> > is their business, not ours.
> > 
> > Tom T Opinion:
> > Amen Brother. If you don't like the story go get a different 
> > channel. Not my job to change your channel, prove it or figure 
> > it out. It is all just for fun. Stories have never been anything 
> > but fun. Enjoy, good storytelling and happy trails to you until 
> > we meet again.!
> 
> It's just utterly fascinating to me how people who
> have been involved in the TM movement or other "We've
> got the answers if you've got the cash" spiritual
> movements get warped by that over the years. They
> tend to react to everything spiritual that they 
> encounter as if someone is trying to sell them some-
> thing. And they tend to doubt the new thing as a 
> default because not much that's been sold to them
> in the past has done much for them.
> 
> Add to that the focus that Maharishi and TM have put
> on "scientific verification" of something (enlight-
> enment) that defies even *subjective* verification,
> and you've got a interesting mix -- people who
> profess to be seekers, but who have been programmed
> to automatically reject that which they seek.
>

The TM movement or other "We've got the answers if you've got the cash"!

Sounds right on the money to me! ;-)

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Headphones

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> on 12/16/05 6:32 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> 
> > Sennheiser HD 215's. Love 'em.
> > 
> The reviews on Amazon (http://tinyurl.com/cgr7f) say
> these don¹t have good
> bass. I like bass. The Sony MDR-V600 Studio Monitor
> Series Headphones are
> getting rave reviews (http://tinyurl.com/8fn2t). Is
> that what you have
> Barry?
> > 
> > Wife wants some Bose noise cancelling HP's
> (perhaps to drown me out)--anyone
> > try them?
> > 
> A friend of mine here in Fairfield got some and
> didn¹t like them at all. Got
> rid of them. If you want to chat with him about
> them, email me on the side.
> > 
> > On Dec 16, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > 
> >> Can any of you music buffs recommend headphones
> (not earplugs) in the
> >> $100-$150 range?

I play a drum set (which by the way is really, really,
really loud) with 29dB canceling headphones with
internal speakers. You can pick them up at any chain
music store for around $100.00. Now that I'm focusing
on hand drums my wife is so much happier! No more bass
thumping through the house. Just close my music room
door and the Doums and Teks barely carry.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inciting racial hatred or not (was, question about Ma...

2005-12-17 Thread MDixon6569







In a message dated 12/16/05 10:41:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
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   An Australian missionary Graham 
  Staines was burnt alive along with his two sons in January 1999. By 
  fundamentalist Hindus? 

I'm not sure about this specific case, but Hindu 
fundamentalist have killed a number of Christian missionaries in recent years. 
They seem to have a real problem with untouchables leaving their religion and 
finding some kind of social acceptance and equality among 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Headphones



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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah! Hey Unc, I didn't know what it was today,
> but *you* have 
> > been *the* *mad* *poet*, and I LOVE that shit! 
> 
> I kinda like it, too. :-) Obviously, it pisses
> others off
> and brings out their agressive, threatened sides. Go
> figure.
> I think it's something associated with being in the
> cusp of
> a big birthday; things have been fired up for me for
> the
> last day or so, and the heat seems to keep
> increasing as
> I approach the Big 6-0.

Big 6-0! Lordy! I just passed the big 5-2. We're all
turning into ol' farts. In 1973 the average age of a
TM teacher was 23.




> 
> > I'm fired up, and inspired- 
> > I've put some champagne on ice, and when my
> beloved returns home  
> > in awhile, I will pop that cork, and we'll toast
> each other in the 
> > sinking golden California light. Right on brother!
> Have a great 
> > weekend
> 
> You, too. I can think of no more holy or enlightened
> thing
> to do than share some champagne with the one you
> love and
> gaze at a beautiful sunset. Bruce Cockburn (my
> favorite
> songwriter/wordsmith) wrote a song about that once.
> His
> commentary on how the song came to him, followed by
> one
> of the verses:
> 
> BC: But the song actually came from, out of a
> conversation 
> with [fellow Canadian singer/songwriter] Sam
> Phillips, one 
> point we were walking along, and it might even have
> been 
> in Seattle and um, I was carrying this bag of stuff
> that 
> I always carry around, this knapsack with whatever,
> you 
> know, notebook, flashlight, toilet paper... 
> 
> JF/MW: ...the essentials.. 
> 
> BC: ...rope, Power Bars, all that stuff [laughing]
> and uh, 
> we were walking up some hill somewhere and she is
> going: 
> What do you carry in that thing anyway? And I said:
> Oh, 
> it's everything I need for the Apocalypse! And, and,
> Sam 
> just stopped and looked at me and said: What do you
> need 
> for the Apocalypse besides champagne and a couple of
> 
> glasses? And I [thought] man, that's a song you
> know, 
> there's a song in there for sure! It took me a few
> years 
> to figure out what it was but that's what really
> triggered 
> the sentiment in Last Night of the World. 
> 
> 
> I've seen the flame of hope among the hopeless
> And that was truly the biggest heartbreak of all
> That was the straw that broke me open
> 
> If this were the last night of the world
> What would I do?
> What would I do that was different
> Unless it was champagne with you? 
> 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Howard Sterns' Unboundedness

Good thing Howard is regular in his TM, otherwise we'd
really have to worry! But seriously, I love Howard,
not for the juvenile content of his show, but for his
absolute, self-effacing honesty. This is the only
reason he's so successful. Others have tried to copy
him but they always fail because they are not
authentic. You should see the interview of Howard with
Bill O'Rielly. Bill looks like a fool in the front of
the simple honesty of Howard.

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> > 'WE PLAYED DILDO GOLF, WE PLAYED WHEEL OF SEX, WE
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> > DYING BREED. THIS IS A BIG MOMENT. WE BROKE EVERY
> RULE KNOWN TO RADIO
> > AND MANKIND. THE GOVERNMENT SAYS CLEAN UP YOUR
> ACT, WE SAY NEVER.'
> > 
> > http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?
> type=entertainmentNews&storyid=2005-12-
>
16T193346Z_01_KRA628036_RTRUKOC_0_US-MEDIA-STERN.xml&rpc=22
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> 
> 
> The FCC is the best thing that ever happened to
> Stern.
> 
> $500 million later...
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Akiane

Very gifted child, but she needs to hang out with some
real artists so she doesn't waste her talent producing
velvet paintings.
-Peter (triple genius)

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TMO as a valid employer

No puja = no parashakti. Slow, slow path. A dead
mantra. Too bad. Why were they so arrogant as to
remove the puja? Who's name do they teach in? They're
own? Where do they say this practice came from, the
tradition of Gunther? Sound like spiritual fools to
me. Of course all IMHO
-Sri Peter (Knows everything)

--- Ingegerd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Does anyone know if some TM-Teachers has been in
> court with the TMO? 
> In Norway we had one case in the 70ths, where some
> TM-Teachers were 
> kicked out of the TMO, and they started their own
> organisation, 
> teaching Transcendental Meditation. It was a
> Court-Case where the 
> TMO lost. Afterwards it came to an Agreement that
> the TMO paid a lot 
> of money to the New Organisation not to use the
> words Transcendental 
> meditation. The New Organisation named ACEM is very
> successfull in 
> Norway, they are holding courses everywhere
> regularly, they own 
> Hotels with great Standards and is very much
> respected. They have 
> changed the procedure, do not perform Puja, and has
> taken away 
> everything that reminds about MMY. Why they was
> banned, was that 
> they started to ask questions about the TMO,
> bookcounting, where 
> does the money go, the dogma and MMY.
> Ingegerd
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tmforlife108"
> 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > TMO as a valid employer
> > 
> > It will be interesting to see how things shape up
> in South Florida 
> with the independent TM 
> > teacher there.  He recently posted here that he is
> having trouble 
> with advertising TM as an 
> > "unrecertified teacher". The TMO is trying to
> block that 
> activity.  Goldstein with MUM legal 
> > had written a letter to a magazine there. I just
> found out Mike 
> Scozzari has received the 
> > standard cease and desist letter from a law firm
> representing the 
> TMO.  Mike said his legal 
> > counsel is advising him not to respond to threats
> unless ordered 
> by the courts. In addition 
> > to a legal team, he has a publicist here in San
> Francisco that 
> wants to do a feature on 
> > independents who teach for less should this go to
> court.
> > 
> > Back in 1993  here in California one independent
> TM teacher (a 
> regular to fairfieldlife) told 
> > me he advised  the movement they would only hurt
> themselves if 
> they took legal action 
> > against him.  The court and publicity could
> potentially uncover a 
> long list of TMO errors 
> > and embarrassments.  If they threatened trademark
> infringement in 
> 1993 but didn't take 
> > legal action over all these years,  any judge
> would question the 
> validity of an unprotected 
> > trademark. The California teacher referred to here
> teaches TM as 
> an independent today 
> > and has helped many people learn the technique
> charging much less 
> than the national 
> > average, He is successful because he is a good
> teacher.  Lets not 
> get lost  criticizing him 
> > for not sharing the income with national.  They
> make that 
> impossible for someone who 
> > wants to make a living at this.  Teachers should
> be making the 
> majority of the course fee 
> > with a small percentage going to the TMO for a
> franchise fee.  
> That wold never happen as 
> > the movement would not have a stronghold on the
> purse and 
> therefore a stronghold on 
> > the teacher.
> > 
> > With the latest round of TMO stupidity and
> recertification to 
> teach, and with promises for 
> > salaries not kept, what legitimate U.S. court
> would accept the TMO 
> as a valid employer?  
> >  I agree in part with an earlier post from spraig@
> - The TMO does 
> have the right to it's 
> > trademark protection. L'm not an attorney either
> but if the owner 
> of the trademark fails to 
> > protect it and misuses it..that could be a
> very interesting 
> question for the courts to look 
> > at. The TMO has demonstrated itself to be an
> unreliable employer 
> incapable of fulfilling 
> > it's promises, withdrawing promised salaries with
> the latest 
> recertification project. If 
> > teachers pay to train to teach and the trademark
> owner makes that 
> impossible, who then 
> > has the right to use the trademark? The argument
> could be made in 
> court that 
> > overwhelming evidence exists to sue the tm org for
> Fraudulent & 
> Deceptive & Exploitative 
> > employment practices.
> > 
> > I thought the letter to the magazine in south
> Florida was 
> threatening.  This TMO tactic is 
> > designed to frighten and why go after the
> magazine. The 
> recertified teachers there are 
> > probably ticked off that someone is competing with
> them.  
> Competition is good and 
> > everyone should teach!  I received an e-mail which
> I think did a 
> good job of summing up:
> > 
> > "The national course fee in the US set by the
> Transcendental 
> Meditation Organization is 5 
> > times what it was in 1993.  Consequently the
> numbers are way down, 
> people are not 
> > starting. Many experience

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Headphones

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> >
> > on 12/16/05 4:28 PM, braaahmaan at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yikes -- I just read your post "carefully". You
> said "not ear 
> plugs" .
> > 
> > Maybe I would like earplugs, but my wife would be
> sharing these with 
> me -
> > she would use them to watch TV and not disturb me
> while I'm 
> meditating or
> > practicing tablas;
> 
> How much do decent tablas cost? Do you always tune
> them
> up to the basic note of some raaga?

A couple of weeks ago a professional tabla player came
to one of our local drum groups. He was a great player
but the problem with the tabla is that it is
SOOO quiet compared to doumbeks and djembes
that it can not be heard unless it is amplified. E-bay
has some decent tablas for beginners. The range from
$100 for a cheapo pair to $500 for some real nice
ones. Although I would never by a tabla on ebay!

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Headphones

2005-12-17 Thread Vaj



I love the bass on these. Bottom line is you'll have to try any headphones first.I have some wireless Sony's I use to cut the lawn and they're great too. But it is like listening to a radio.On Dec 16, 2005, at 10:51 PM, Rick Archer wrote:on 12/16/05 6:32 PM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Sennheiser HD 215's. Love 'em. The reviews on Amazon (http://tinyurl.com/cgr7f) say these don’t have good bass. I like bass. The Sony MDR-V600 Studio Monitor Series Headphones are getting rave reviews (http://tinyurl.com/8fn2t). Is that what you have Barry?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Inciting racial hatred or not (was, question about Maharishi's brothers,....)

2005-12-17 Thread Jason Spock

It was supposedly done by Bajrang Dal activists. All political parties jumped into this incident to make Political Hay out of this. I don't understand why Buddhism failed to catch on in india, inspite of Dr. Ambedkar the champion of downtrodden embracing it. This failure of Buddhism was taken advantage of Muslim fundamentalists and Christian fundamentalists who try to spread their dogmatic religion in india, "to save souls"!! Perhaps Vajranatha might shed some light on it. It is better for downtrodden indians to embrace Buddhism than go for alien dogmatic religions like Islam or Christianity. Bloody Indian government is deaf to this important cultural and spiritual problem. OriginalMessage- From: "Rick Archer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:41:12 -0600 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Inciting racial
hatred or not (was, question about Maharishi's brothers,) on 12/16/05 12:22 PM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An Australian missionary Graham Staines was burnt alive along with his two sons in January 1999. By fundamentalist Hindus? __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Headphones

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> on 12/16/05 4:28 PM, braaahmaan at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Yikes -- I just read your post "carefully". You said "not ear 
plugs" .
> 
> Maybe I would like earplugs, but my wife would be sharing these with 
me -
> she would use them to watch TV and not disturb me while I'm 
meditating or
> practicing tablas;

How much do decent tablas cost? Do you always tune them
up to the basic note of some raaga?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy and TorquiseB

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> > > > > I got you all beat.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's Dennis and Margaret.
> > > > 
> > > > You got me laughing with that one, Shemp. :-)
> > > > I can't disagree -- Dennis is indeed a 
> > > > menace and have you *ever* encountered 
> > > > anyone in literature more uptight and
> > > > anal retentive than Margaret? :-)
> > > 
> > > But their 1961 Chevy Impala looks like a treat!
> > > 
> > > http://www.roaminangelsinc.com/HTMLS/Chevy/LC61Dennis.html
> > 
> > BTW, Dennis the Menace hereabouts is called Ville Vallaton!
> > (William the Unruly).
> 
> Ville Vallaton, the drink:
> 
> http://www.paallikko.com/baarikaappi/juoma.php?id=145
> http://www.freedrinkrecipes.com/cocktails-drinks-
> recipes/villevallaton-drink-recipe.html
> http://cocktails.atontour.com/cocktail-ville-vallaton.html
> http://www.cocktails-vodka.com/cocktail-ville-vallaton.htm
> 
> 
> Ville Vallaton, the Wikipedia entry:
> 
> http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ville_Vallaton

George Wilson goes by the name Yrjö [uer-yoe] Karjunen.
Beats me how on earth "george" can become "yrjö",
but also the George-kings are called here "Yrjö".
Furthermore, for some peculiar reason, "yrjö" is
a "nickname" for "vomit"! I guess it sounds a bit
like someone vomiting. It's also used as a verb:
"Yrjö-sin eilen" (I vomited [george-d] yesterday).

>

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[FairfieldLife] Re: TMO as a valid employer

2005-12-17 Thread Ingegerd

Does anyone know if some TM-Teachers has been in court with the TMO? 
In Norway we had one case in the 70ths, where some TM-Teachers were 
kicked out of the TMO, and they started their own organisation, 
teaching Transcendental Meditation. It was a Court-Case where the 
TMO lost. Afterwards it came to an Agreement that the TMO paid a lot 
of money to the New Organisation not to use the words Transcendental 
meditation. The New Organisation named ACEM is very successfull in 
Norway, they are holding courses everywhere regularly, they own 
Hotels with great Standards and is very much respected. They have 
changed the procedure, do not perform Puja, and has taken away 
everything that reminds about MMY. Why they was banned, was that 
they started to ask questions about the TMO, bookcounting, where 
does the money go, the dogma and MMY.
Ingegerd

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "tmforlife108" 
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> 
> TMO as a valid employer
> 
> It will be interesting to see how things shape up in South Florida 
with the independent TM 
> teacher there.  He recently posted here that he is having trouble 
with advertising TM as an 
> "unrecertified teacher". The TMO is trying to block that 
activity.  Goldstein with MUM legal 
> had written a letter to a magazine there. I just found out Mike 
Scozzari has received the 
> standard cease and desist letter from a law firm representing the 
TMO.  Mike said his legal 
> counsel is advising him not to respond to threats unless ordered 
by the courts. In addition 
> to a legal team, he has a publicist here in San Francisco that 
wants to do a feature on 
> independents who teach for less should this go to court.
> 
> Back in 1993  here in California one independent TM teacher (a 
regular to fairfieldlife) told 
> me he advised  the movement they would only hurt themselves if 
they took legal action 
> against him.  The court and publicity could potentially uncover a 
long list of TMO errors 
> and embarrassments.  If they threatened trademark infringement in 
1993 but didn't take 
> legal action over all these years,  any judge would question the 
validity of an unprotected 
> trademark. The California teacher referred to here teaches TM as 
an independent today 
> and has helped many people learn the technique charging much less 
than the national 
> average, He is successful because he is a good teacher.  Lets not 
get lost  criticizing him 
> for not sharing the income with national.  They make that 
impossible for someone who 
> wants to make a living at this.  Teachers should be making the 
majority of the course fee 
> with a small percentage going to the TMO for a franchise fee.  
That wold never happen as 
> the movement would not have a stronghold on the purse and 
therefore a stronghold on 
> the teacher.
> 
> With the latest round of TMO stupidity and recertification to 
teach, and with promises for 
> salaries not kept, what legitimate U.S. court would accept the TMO 
as a valid employer?  
>  I agree in part with an earlier post from spraig@ - The TMO does 
have the right to it's 
> trademark protection. L'm not an attorney either but if the owner 
of the trademark fails to 
> protect it and misuses it..that could be a very interesting 
question for the courts to look 
> at. The TMO has demonstrated itself to be an unreliable employer 
incapable of fulfilling 
> it's promises, withdrawing promised salaries with the latest 
recertification project. If 
> teachers pay to train to teach and the trademark owner makes that 
impossible, who then 
> has the right to use the trademark? The argument could be made in 
court that 
> overwhelming evidence exists to sue the tm org for Fraudulent & 
Deceptive & Exploitative 
> employment practices.
> 
> I thought the letter to the magazine in south Florida was 
threatening.  This TMO tactic is 
> designed to frighten and why go after the magazine. The 
recertified teachers there are 
> probably ticked off that someone is competing with them.  
Competition is good and 
> everyone should teach!  I received an e-mail which I think did a 
good job of summing up:
> 
> "The national course fee in the US set by the Transcendental 
Meditation Organization is 5 
> times what it was in 1993.  Consequently the numbers are way down, 
people are not 
> starting. Many experienced/certified teachers throughout the U.S. 
have had to settle the 
> problem of runaway prices by privately offering TM instruction at 
very reasonable rates.  
> Without compromising the original effective technique, TM can now 
be learned for less.  
> It's the same technique. People everywhere, rich or poor, should 
have the opportunity to 
> take the course and follow-up lessons."
> 
> I wonder how many TM teachers there are who would like to teach if 
they knew they would 
> not be threatened.  This latest event could be the rallying point 
for all of them - and don't 
> kid yourself, there are many!  Of the 40K trained in the US, and

[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy and TorquiseB

> > > > I got you all beat.
> > > > 
> > > > It's Dennis and Margaret.
> > > 
> > > You got me laughing with that one, Shemp. :-)
> > > I can't disagree -- Dennis is indeed a 
> > > menace and have you *ever* encountered 
> > > anyone in literature more uptight and
> > > anal retentive than Margaret? :-)
> > 
> > But their 1961 Chevy Impala looks like a treat!
> > 
> > http://www.roaminangelsinc.com/HTMLS/Chevy/LC61Dennis.html
> 
> BTW, Dennis the Menace hereabouts is called Ville Vallaton!
> (William the Unruly).

Ville Vallaton, the drink:

http://www.paallikko.com/baarikaappi/juoma.php?id=145
http://www.freedrinkrecipes.com/cocktails-drinks-
recipes/villevallaton-drink-recipe.html
http://cocktails.atontour.com/cocktail-ville-vallaton.html
http://www.cocktails-vodka.com/cocktail-ville-vallaton.htm


Ville Vallaton, the Wikipedia entry:

http://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ville_Vallaton







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy and TorquiseB

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I got you all beat.
> > > 
> > > It's Dennis and Margaret.
> > 
> > You got me laughing with that one, Shemp. :-)
> > I can't disagree -- Dennis is indeed a 
> > menace and have you *ever* encountered 
> > anyone in literature more uptight and
> > anal retentive than Margaret? :-)
> >
> 
> But their 1961 Chevy Impala looks like a treat!
> 
> http://www.roaminangelsinc.com/HTMLS/Chevy/LC61Dennis.html
>

BTW, Dennis the Menace hereabouts is called Ville Vallaton!
(William the Unruly).

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Headphones

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sennheiser HD 215's. Love 'em.

My Technics organ sounds awfully screeching through my
Sennheiser HD 414 SL. But otherwise I like them.
BTW, the "techni-chord" feature of that organ is cool.
With TC on it occasionally sounds like I could really
play some organ...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy and TorquiseB

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I got you all beat.
> > > 
> > > It's Dennis and Margaret.
> > 
> > You got me laughing with that one, Shemp. :-)
> > I can't disagree -- Dennis is indeed a 
> > menace and have you *ever* encountered 
> > anyone in literature more uptight and
> > anal retentive than Margaret? :-)
> >
> 
> But their 1961 Chevy Impala looks like a treat!
> 
> http://www.roaminangelsinc.com/HTMLS/Chevy/LC61Dennis.html

Flash from the past! I learned to drive in a car
exactly like that.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy and TorquiseB

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > I got you all beat.
> > 
> > It's Dennis and Margaret.
> 
> You got me laughing with that one, Shemp. :-)
> I can't disagree -- Dennis is indeed a 
> menace and have you *ever* encountered 
> anyone in literature more uptight and
> anal retentive than Margaret? :-)
>

But their 1961 Chevy Impala looks like a treat!

http://www.roaminangelsinc.com/HTMLS/Chevy/LC61Dennis.html

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Judy and TorquiseB

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> I got you all beat.
> 
> It's Dennis and Margaret.

You got me laughing with that one, Shemp. :-)
I can't disagree -- Dennis is indeed a 
menace and have you *ever* encountered 
anyone in literature more uptight and
anal retentive than Margaret? :-)

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Headphones

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> Yeah! Hey Unc, I didn't know what it was today, but *you* have 
> been *the* *mad* *poet*, and I LOVE that shit! 

I kinda like it, too. :-) Obviously, it pisses others off
and brings out their agressive, threatened sides. Go figure.
I think it's something associated with being in the cusp of
a big birthday; things have been fired up for me for the
last day or so, and the heat seems to keep increasing as
I approach the Big 6-0. 

> I'm fired up, and inspired- 
> I've put some champagne on ice, and when my beloved returns home  
> in awhile, I will pop that cork, and we'll toast each other in the 
> sinking golden California light. Right on brother! Have a great 
> weekend

You, too. I can think of no more holy or enlightened thing
to do than share some champagne with the one you love and
gaze at a beautiful sunset. Bruce Cockburn (my favorite
songwriter/wordsmith) wrote a song about that once. His
commentary on how the song came to him, followed by one
of the verses:

BC: But the song actually came from, out of a conversation 
with [fellow Canadian singer/songwriter] Sam Phillips, one 
point we were walking along, and it might even have been 
in Seattle and um, I was carrying this bag of stuff that 
I always carry around, this knapsack with whatever, you 
know, notebook, flashlight, toilet paper... 

JF/MW: ...the essentials.. 

BC: ...rope, Power Bars, all that stuff [laughing] and uh, 
we were walking up some hill somewhere and she is going: 
What do you carry in that thing anyway? And I said: Oh, 
it's everything I need for the Apocalypse! And, and, Sam 
just stopped and looked at me and said: What do you need 
for the Apocalypse besides champagne and a couple of 
glasses? And I [thought] man, that's a song you know, 
there's a song in there for sure! It took me a few years 
to figure out what it was but that's what really triggered 
the sentiment in Last Night of the World. 

I've seen the flame of hope among the hopeless
And that was truly the biggest heartbreak of all
That was the straw that broke me open

If this were the last night of the world
What would I do?
What would I do that was different
Unless it was champagne with you? 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Announcement of A New Folder: Baseless Cla

--- In 
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Unc writes: bigest snippereion
> None of the reactions affect those of us who are merely
> Relating Our Stories terribly much. We're just Relating
> Our Stories. They're *ours*, man, not yours. Yours may
> *never* be like ours. Yours may be better. We (and I think
> I speak for a few people here) are content to just tell stories.
> How the audience around the campfire reacts to the stories
> is their business, not ours.
> 
> Tom T Opinion:
> Amen Brother. If you don't like the story go get a different 
> channel. Not my job to change your channel, prove it or figure 
> it out. It is all just for fun. Stories have never been anything 
> but fun. Enjoy, good storytelling and happy trails to you until 
> we meet again.!

It's just utterly fascinating to me how people who
have been involved in the TM movement or other "We've
got the answers if you've got the cash" spiritual
movements get warped by that over the years. They
tend to react to everything spiritual that they 
encounter as if someone is trying to sell them some-
thing. And they tend to doubt the new thing as a 
default because not much that's been sold to them
in the past has done much for them.

Add to that the focus that Maharishi and TM have put
on "scientific verification" of something (enlight-
enment) that defies even *subjective* verification,
and you've got a interesting mix -- people who
profess to be seekers, but who have been programmed
to automatically reject that which they seek.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Headphones